A friend of mine recently had his ducati rebuilt and a new exactfit timing belt fitted. Less than 500kms later bike seizes and mechanic who fixed the bike said the belt had failed and all the notches were stripped off. Would this be covered by some kind of warranty from belt manufacturer?
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Would be a lot to look at??
1. Did the actual belt fail??
2. What condition the belt roller bearings?
3. Vented or open belt covers can allow pickup of grit/stone into belt/sprocket?
4. Maladjustment of belt/s. (Overtight or loosened off)
5. Problem with cam/rocker shaft (eg seizure excessive rotational resistance)
Blah, blah, blah! As you can appreciate, its easy to say the belt failed, but was it a result of another factor??
I dunno about anyone else but I have never seen a cam belt fail on any vehicle (Excepting of course specialist applications, modified and orrace engines etc for example)
without there have been an underlying problem with an associated component! Or the failure to have replaced the belt at the specified intervals!
Be interested in hearing the results the outcome of this one? [thumbsup]
Ditto what dragonworld says, there would be very few mechanics these days that would admit that they f*cked something up when they put it together. Ditch that mechanic and go somewhere else.
I've only ever seen one cambelt fail and that was on a 70s Cortina with about a million miles on it.
+1 [thumbsup] on what Dragon said. and what i posted in the say anything thread :-\
Quote from: brimo on April 17, 2011, 04:10:21 PM
I've only ever seen one cambelt fail and that was on a 70s Cortina with about a million miles on it.
Hey Brimo funny that's about the only thing i've seen a belt fail on too [laugh]
The belt covers are closed with a fairing also. The owner of the bike can't afford to have a mechanic look at it as he just spent all his money on the rebuild. The worst thing about all this is that it's a reputable mechanic that's talked about a lot on this forum that did work.
well lets not cast this bloke in a poor light, it's all speculation as to what has happened and why, if the mechanic is reputable and talked about a lot here he has probably worked hard to earn his reputation, lets give this time to play out before we get ahead of ourselves assuming who might or might not be at fault.
paul.
That's a bit confusing though, you say he can't afford to have a mechanic look at it but he's spent all his $$$ on the re-build wouldn't that mean there was a mechanic involved in it somewhere.
Or was the rebuild something your friend did himself with the exact fit belts but left no money to take it to a mechanic after it was complete.
As said already there are many factors that can contribute to the result.
Hope it gets sorted out with a positive result.
My bike runs CA belts with no problems as many bikes here and in the US/rest of world do so there is more too it than belts failed.
from his first post it sounds like a mechanic has done the rebuild, then the owner has taken the bike back after the failure, i think he means his friend can't afford to have _another_ mechanic look at it. If the mechanic has blamed the belt he should be chasing up the supplier to work out something for the customer, very rare for a belt to strip teeth on it's own though, as others have said, usually _something_ contributing to the failure. what? who knows.............
Quote from: loony888 on April 17, 2011, 08:45:38 PM
well lets not cast this bloke in a poor light, it's all speculation as to what has happened and why, if the mechanic is reputable and talked about a lot here he has probably worked hard to earn his reputation, lets give this time to play out before we get ahead of ourselves assuming who might or might not be at fault.
paul.
Yep!! [thumbsup]
having recent issues with my timing belts I can vouch for CA Cycleworks customer service - brilliant. They will want to see the belts and do some tests as they are always doing quality assurance. Get in contact with CA first...
Quote from: Mr.S2R on April 18, 2011, 05:41:16 AM
having recent issues with my timing belts I can vouch for CA Cycleworks customer service - brilliant. They will want to see the belts and do some tests as they are always doing quality assurance. Get in contact with CA first...
Are you having problems with the CA Cycleworks "Exact fit" timing belts?
Thanks for all the advice. My mate is going to get in contact with CA Cycleworks, i will update when he gets an answer.
Quote from: Mr.S2R on April 18, 2011, 05:41:16 AM
having recent issues with my timing belts I can vouch for CA Cycleworks customer service - brilliant. They will want to see the belts and do some tests as they are always doing quality assurance. Get in contact with CA first...
what were the issues you had??
Quote from: vossy on April 19, 2011, 05:54:24 PM
Are you having problems with the CA Cycleworks "Exact fit" timing belts?
Quote from: ollie on April 20, 2011, 01:40:06 AM
what were the issues you had??
The abbreviated version of a long story and number of emails:
Ok the issues I had were the belts would get extremely noisy after about 5 mins of riding - to me it sounded like a bearing failure. Took it to the guys who put my belts on and they said the belts seemed to be tightening when hot, and could not pinpoint the noise. I contacted CA to see what my options were - anyhow long story short CA Cycleworks credited me my money back and I sent the belts back for analysis - they claimed some sort of metallic paint was found on the side of one of the belts (where it came from I dont know) and said that this rubbing on the crank pulley would make a noise similar to what I was hearing. They said everything else was fine.
Upon advice from the guys servicing my bike I had them put OEM belts back on, and have not heard the noise since. Like I said though CA Cycleworks were brilliant in their customer service. I felt a bit guilty putting on the OEM belts instead of CA after all the effort they went through - but then again this is not my area of expertise and I am going on what I have been advised.
Might be worth a mention here regarding the Ducati cheap arse bearing thing!? [roll] And a potential for belt failure possibly?! ???
When doing a service belt change on the old 7fiddy I checked the cam belt roller bearings and they felt a tad tight in rotation! So being 80,000k old I thought I'd change them and removed them and went down to the local bearing place and got a set of replacements. [thumbsup]
The fella said they were rated to 15,000 rpm so were ok for this application. After finding the shitty bearings on the DS I checked the bearings on the 750 (Including the cam rollers as a matter of course.) after getting a heads up regarding sub standard name brand types, and found that the "new" cam roller ones had gone a little notchy after only 2,500K! :o
And yep they were the cheap arse made in China replicas of SKF. [roll] [evil]
Just an observation for the interested! [thumbsup]
Quote from: macca on April 17, 2011, 01:41:09 AM
A friend of mine recently had his ducati rebuilt and a new exactfit timing belt fitted. Less than 500kms later bike seizes and mechanic who fixed the bike said the belt had failed and all the notches were stripped off. Would this be covered by some kind of warranty from belt manufacturer?
Whoa! I'm actually surprised we haven't been included in discussion. Technically, to rip teeth off requires the sprocket to stop first... In continuing to read this thread, I am having my doubts about the situation in its entirety. I absolutely stand behind my belts but I'm not going to be able to do anything if the situation has already been repaired and no one is willing to talk about it. :-\
Quote from: Mr.S2R on April 20, 2011, 03:34:36 AMOk the issues I had were the belts would get extremely noisy after about 5 mins of riding - to me it sounded like a bearing failure.
"Bearing failing noise" is exactly what happens when the sprockets and belts need to be broken in. Our belt manufacturer says standard practice is to replace the sprockets with belts concurrently. Obviously, this practice is never adhered to with Ducatis, so isn't a requirement for safety / longevity. Also as Ducati OEM belts lack the protective rubber coating on the teeth, theirs will squeal less than ours will during break-in. Unfortunately, when I had our belts designed, I asked for the best of industry practices to be applied with all aspects and that no corner-cutting be allowed. Thus our belts have the protective rubber coating on the teeth. I chose not to try and figure out which cost-cutting measures Gates and Ducati have applied to the OEM belts. My choice was to have the best belt that can currently be manufactured.
Also, about the belts tightening up when the engine is hot. Belts don't stretch... even after 20,000 miles, we have had belts tested to be within the same .002" tolerance all of our belts meet upon manufacture. As the engine heats up, the heads move away from the drive sprocket, which increases tension. This doesn't cause the noise. The squealing is caused by the teeth slipping as they slot into the sprocket. Within a 1000 miles, the rubber belt will have worn away enough steel from the sprockets that the noise stops. Yes, it sounds backwards, but is correct, the belt wears down the steel sprocket.
There have now been 3 cases where a 1000-type of engine has done this. 2 have been issued apologies with refunds. 3rd just rode his bike and it got quieter until the sound went away. It is my feeling that in this rare and unfortunate case, the best thing is for the customer to do whatever feels the best. Which means trying new OEM belts to see if they are quiet. As our belts' length varies by 1/2 as much as Gates, there is every likelihood they had one that was farther from the norm than ours. Then the new OEM belt without its rubber coating can break in the sprockets more quietly than our belts. Additionally, some service technicians I have talked to said they see OEM belts doing the same thing.
I feel for macca's friend and hope for the chance to learn or help as much as possible.
-Chris
The CA Belts I fitted to the 750 whistled for a while (1k to 2k) and seemed to be less noisy after that, but still a little "whiny" when compared to the Bucci or OEM's?! ???
As is usual when I have used a new component I have checked the belts and pulleys regularly since fitting and there seems to be no sign of anything nasty happening!! [thumbsup]
Thanks for the input Chris, and would be glad to hear of any developements from your side!!
I think its a good idea to check rotational friction and endplay of the cams when fitting new belts as a matter of course!? Just in case of course! ( For the paranoid of us!? ;D [evil] [cheeky] )
Quote from: chris on April 20, 2011, 02:44:54 PM
"Bearing failing noise" is exactly what happens when the sprockets and belts need to be broken in. Our belt manufacturer says standard practice is to replace the sprockets with belts concurrently.
I was never told about the sprockets. Very interesting!
When the OEM belts need replacing I will try the CA belts (with new sprockets) again, entirely due to Chris taking the time to deal with a customer - which I believe he has gone out of his way. I hope you don't interpret anything I have said as negative about your belts Chris. I attempted to keep my experience to facts and what I was advised. I just put it down to me being that small percentage (aka just my luck ;D) of people that get the odd anomaly from what is usually a great product (probably backed up by heaps of others on here!!)
As a side note the whole belt thing absolutely fascinating - only because when I owned my 650 Pantah I was never told to replace them in the 5 years and 30,000km of owning it! AND I had it serviced by a reputable place! ;D
cheers
Jason [thumbsup]
Yeah Jase
The inclusion of the HD is a mystery as they use a truck battery(?) and would need the appropriate charger (Larger diesel plant equipment type as for mining tip truck or ocean liner? [cheeky] )
And I reckon the classic parked in the water was so the photographer could get the lovely rainbow effect of the oil floating on the water in the subtle fading light? [roll]
Hi everybody my name is Matt and it is my bike that the topic is about. Macca is a mate of mine and seeing my woes decided to help me any way he could. I decided to join the forum to get a few things straight and to give the actual run down of events. No one is playing the blame game with the products nor with the mechanic. I will say though at the end of the day I am left nearly $4000 down through parts and labour and a bike that worked for a week. So ask yourself honestly, if this was happening to you would you want answers or more?
(Sorry Chris, I had discussed with the mechanic on 9th April that he would contact the rep in Aus but realised on Friday that he hasn't been contacted.)
HOW IT GOES- Sorry guys but my bike isn't a Monster but is a 748/853 and cammed up. A cam belt pulley come away making the belt snap go through everything, bend up valves etc etc. I got all the parts from the U.S which were all OEM parts except the belts. Intake/exhaust valves, valve guides, half rings, pulleys and pulley guides. I got the bike back and sounded and ran beautifully(very hard bike to tune). A couple of days later I started to hear a slight kind of quiet whirring noise. I don't recall if it was all the time or intermediate. On the last day it became louder and I decided to ring the next day but crack and the back wheel locks up. I only could move it with clutch in.
The bike went back to the shop and and on inspection the belt had snapped causing a mess and bending some of the valves. Before anyone says it, no it's not a recurring problem because the first time it was the pulley that come away causing the belt to make a mess but this time all pulleys were intact and spun freely(except the one with the damaged valves.) The belt still had it's teeth barr the ends of the belt that were now stretched, a little melted and a mangled mess. In some areas the back of the belt only held the teeth on by this fabric looking material and no actual rubber belt was there.
The bike has quite a few k's for a Ducati and gets ridden most days. I have a lot of people through the years say it's getting on now etc but I have ALWAYS maintained or replaced parts as soon as it is "needed" or brought to my attention. I've had the bike since 2002 and have spent now to date about $28000.00 maintaining or replacing parts for it. So for the riding it gets it's fair to say I pay for it to do that. If we didn't love our pride and joys we wouldn't see Hailwood or green frames etc anymore. Yes up close the cosmetics aren't great but a book shouldn't be judged.......
The mechanic told me the parts that I need and has offered them at cost price however I just can not do it so soon or maybe ever again. As I have already said I nor no one else is pointing fingers and this could be in any state. I would have no hesitation in taking future bikes to my mechanic and his work is always meticulous. Yep I am very confused about my situation and don't know what is right or wrong. Sorry to go on but I wanted to straighten everything out.
Regards
Matt
matt.e thanks for coming on and letting us know. I appreciate the fact that names and locations have not been mentioned ... other than, unfortunately, the belts themselves.
I am a complete mechanical dunce so excuse me if I have mis-interpreted something, but my understanding is:
. re-build was required after a cam belt pulley came away causing plenty of damage
. so then came the re-build
. after the re-build the engine has unfortunately suffered a similar fate with a snapped belt the suggested cause
Clearly I don't know what I am talking about but if the valves, pulleys and belts are all linked ... how do you know what caused the failure? For example, could the belt have snapped as a result of something else failing first (I am assuming the flow on effects would be instantaneous).
Does the condition of the belt indicate that it was, in fact, the belt that went first? That is, if the belt snapped would you expect for it to appear stretched and melted?
Anyway, really sorry to hear what has happened.
so the rubber on the back side of the belt was worn off? sounds like either the belt was mounted too tight and/or a failure of the tension pulley.
Hi Betty,
Can't be too sure what caused it to happen but all those things had been replaced in the build. Usually when a belt goes from wear or age the outcome is what I have now. That's one of the reason on a big service the belts always get changed so you don't end up with an expensive mess. The whole saga had left me deflated and over it but then something happened last week that kind of got my back up and left me thinking "hang on I am the one out of pocket 4k and a non working bike with no answers".
Hi Raux
It would be the easiest solution to say that the belts were to tight or loose when installed but I think it's fair to say that this guy could do it in his sleep. The tension pulleys were replaced as well
It's just a shame that I have to give up my pride and joy through no fault of mine. I'm now riding a 82 1100 Katana and before now I hadn't owned a japper since I was 19, I am now a year off 40. I miss the duke because I haven't "really" had it since Sept last year.
have the tensioner and idler pulley bearings been checked?
Quote from: loony888 on April 22, 2011, 12:05:51 AM
have the tensioner and idler pulley bearings been checked?
They were replaced but I'd still like to think that the replacements were checked for free spin etc.
Hi Matte
Not much joy when your left holding the can. >:(
You say you had cams done.
You don't say how many klms after when the timing belt pulley has come away.
These thing's just don't come away.
Unless the has been an assembly issue, crappy nut or theads etc.
And now rebuilt, buy who the same mechanic?.
And week later it shits itself again :o
Alarm Bells ringing hello ??? ???
You say the mechanic can do it in his sleep.
I am no mechanic, but have over 35 years in manufacturing and machine maintenance.
And shit happens buy the best of us and the worst off us, you know the saying she will be right mate :'(.
I am not ruling out any thing, as no pictures and only what the mechanic has told you.
And i am not about to name and shame or ruin some ones lively hood. you just need it fixed :)
I'm with Chris on the belts something has had to stop/ seize for the belt to fail.I just installed a set on mates bike no issue and they look very well made. [thumbsup]
I would be getting the bike back and get an independent mechanic look at it. [thumbsup]
And now if it's allready been stripped buy said mechanic, easy to replace the faulty part with a good one to cover your self ,to an unsuspecting customer. seen it all before don't trust anyone.
:-X :-\ :(
Quote from: Betty on April 21, 2011, 05:44:04 PM
matt.e thanks for coming on and letting us know. I appreciate the fact that names and locations have not been mentioned ... other than, unfortunately, the belts themselves.
I am a complete mechanical dunce
Oh and don't belive Betty he or is that she knows more than than he or she is letting on ;D
Hi Rob,
HaHa yeah I thought the same when I read Betty's post. There is definitely some kind of mechanical mind behind those questions.
Nah just before the pulley came off I had some internal work done by another group and I think they might have been the problem. Before I had even said anything they were already covering their backsides so I knew there was going to be no point unless taking them to small claims. By this time I was on the road to giving up spending anymore money on it and my heart was so low. The bike was going to become a garage piece. I then got on the net and realised that parts are so very much cheaper from the States so I got them all over then took them to this mechanic. I also did my research on the belts and found nothing but good comments so I got them as well. When he got it the bike had already been pulled down and it was explained to him what had happened. I trust that Barry had the correct tension on the belts. I know he understands my bike if that makes sense. Tuning the bike has to mainly done by ear and forget the computer. Alot of places I have taken the bike just can't tune it for the street...
I understand that something would have to stop for the belt to stop but the only thing that could move afterwards was the intake pulley and that was because the valves were bent. As mentioned before there was this whirring noise that got louder and louder then crack! I also had both belts replaced and the other is fine.
The cams are lumpy cams but they have always been in it since I got it and with no problems(except when it needs a tune)
These are the factors to do with the bike--- The Bike, Belts, valves & pulleys, Mechanic, me. Well I guess I can be pulled from this equation and the bike because the parts to do with the problem were all replaced(Maybe a slight chance something else was missed or not checked). So just going on the facts and not being offensive, there are only a couple of things left in this equation.
Okay cam has a slight bend in it Yay!!! That would of caused the belt to run weird on the pulley. If I decide to keep it, I'll get the parts and i'll get them fitted for free. The offer was given from him to pay for the whole lot but that isn't fair on him. I would only do that if it was from direct fault of that persons actions etc. I have confidence in this mechanic and he came through in everyway. I got an answer what caused and it makes perfect sense. Thanks everyone with your suggestions on what it could be or to look for but most of all thanks to..................for the real old fashioned service.
Hey Matt,
It's great that you have an answer then instead of a bunch of questions still.
Your bike sounds like it has even more nuances than most Ducati's already do.
So it's also nice to know that it want a belt failure and particularly a CA belt failure as there are many of us who use the products and have never had any issues.
I am sure Chris will also be happy to know that his product was not at fault.
Hope you get it fixed shortly so you can get of that classic Katana so it can become the piece in the shed and your bike can once again be where it belongs which is out on the road.
Happy riding when you get back on the road with great CA belts installed.. [thumbsup]
Have no fear Chris your products reputation is still intact.
Quote from: matt.e on April 22, 2011, 05:58:44 PM
Okay cam has a slight bend in it Yay!!! That would of caused the belt to run weird on the pulley. If I decide to keep it, I'll get the parts and i'll get them fitted for free. The offer was given from him to pay for the whole lot but that isn't fair on him. I would only do that if it was from direct fault of that persons actions etc. I have confidence in this mechanic and he came through in everyway. I got an answer what caused and it makes perfect sense. Thanks everyone with your suggestions on what it could be or to look for but most of all thanks to..................for the real old fashioned service.
you said in your original post that it's been "cammed up", if you bought them new you can go back to them for some sort of help with the fix, if they were 2nd hand you're screwed i guess, god knows how you bend a cam anyway!
can you put the std cams back in it?
paul.
cam bent? timing belt put on too tight?
I reckon the cam pulley coming off would bend the cam alright!! :o
If I havew to replace mine NEW nuts will be used for sure as a mayyet of course!! [thumbsup]
The 750 has done 85,000k so far and I reckon the pulleys are the originals and work well still!! ;D
What is the workshop data on replacement of these?? (Interval, time frame??) anyone know?? ???
Yep getting paranoid now , heh!! [evil]
Probably a good idea to shoot Chris a message.
Good to hear that you now know the answer to your problem Mat.
Mmick
Quote from: matt.e on April 21, 2011, 05:00:53 PMBefore anyone says it, no it's not a recurring problem because the first time it was the pulley that come away causing the belt to make a mess but this time all pulleys were intact and spun freely(except the one with the damaged valves.) The belt still had it's teeth barr the ends of the belt that were now stretched, a little melted and a mangled mess. In some areas the back of the belt only held the teeth on by this fabric looking material and no actual rubber belt was there.
(emphasis mine) Matt, there's the root of the problem. :( The cam stopped, which is how the belt was broken. If the belt were to somehow fail, none of the teeth would be missing or melted, it would break in a similar manner as the belts I managed to break in our youtube "jackass" video.
If at all possible, I would really like to get that damaged belt. I want to send it to engineering (along with a link to this thread) so I can get their thoughts and observations about the whole situation.
Quote from: matt.e on April 22, 2011, 05:58:44 PM
Okay cam has a slight bend in it Yay!!! That would of caused the belt to run weird on the pulley. If I decide to keep it, I'll get the parts and i'll get them fitted for free. The offer was given from him to pay for the whole lot but that isn't fair on him. I would only do that if it was from direct fault of that persons actions etc. I have confidence in this mechanic and he came through in everyway. I got an answer what caused and it makes perfect sense. Thanks everyone with your suggestions on what it could be or to look for but most of all thanks to..................for the real old fashioned service.
I am very glad that a solution as well as some financial help has been found. I have never heard of a bent cam before. However, there was a time (before working on other peoples' bikes) that I would re-use the cam nuts. Never again! They can only be used once. Upon analysis, a fresh one versus a used one can shift the cam's timing 2 degrees! When degreeing cams, I used old nuts for all the wind-up, set it up 2 degrees off using a new nut, then double check.
Quote from: mattyvas on April 23, 2011, 12:38:56 AM
So it's also nice to know that it wasn't a belt failure and particularly a CA belt failure as there are many of us who use the products and have never had any issues. I am sure Chris will also be happy to know that his product was not at fault.
...
Have no fear Chris your products reputation is still intact.
Yes, I literally would have gotten ill to my stomach and lost sleep over this had I read this thread during the time between Matt's posts.
Quote from: dragonworld on April 23, 2011, 06:54:24 PM
The 750 has done 85,000k so far and I reckon the pulleys are the originals and work well still!! ;D What is the workshop data on replacement of these?? (Interval, time frame??) anyone know?? ??? Yep getting paranoid now , heh!! [evil]
I don't know the interval, however, unless noticeably worn down, I would not change the timing belt sprockets on my own Ducati. And I do the same for my drive-chain sprockets. As I advise customers: I have no reason to recommend procedures other than Ducati's official status quo with regard to the timing belts or their sprockets.
Phew... epic. I need a beer.
Thankfully we see light at the end of the tunnel, and I think it was good of Chris to get involved, hopefully matt.e still has the belt and it would be interesting to hear what Chris's engineers say. Phew!!
Mmick
sorry to see anyone have issues with their bike, glad to see it's been diagnosed and is hopefully on the mend.
There is an upside to this saga though, hopefully new members who don't know who chris and cacycleworks are will catch on and support a business that goes above and beyond for all their customers. I've been a happy customer for years and can't recommend them highly enough.
paul.
Hi guys, just got back from my easter break. Hey Chris I can get the belts sent to you when I meet up. I think I'm going to sell the duke as I have just poured too much money into it. If I didn't have any other projects I would be happy to keep doing it. Every time I save up a lump sum to spend on my other projects, the duke decides to have a hissy fit and drain my account. Oh I dream of that money tree and huge warehouse full of toys. I am up for adoption Mr Leno.
Hey, what is the feedback on these stainless steel valves on ebay usa. I've read some reviews and don't seem bad but don't understand why they are so cheap as opposed to OEM. Any feedback or ideas?
@matt.e : Thanks, I look forward to getting the belts. And I know all about when one of my bikes becomes jealous of something else I'm spending time or money on!!!!
IMHO, I prefer to avoid stainless valves as the groove for the closing shim keeper gets beaten up badly. Valves need to be adjusted as soon as every 500 miles depending on RPMs. Also, when the groove gets hammered, a lip forms on the edge of it which traps the closing shim on the valve. >:( [thumbsdown] I consider MBP valve retainers to be mandatory addition with stainless steel valves.
Thanks,
Chris
Quote from: loony888 on April 30, 2011, 01:25:19 AM
sorry to see anyone have issues with their bike, glad to see it's been diagnosed and is hopefully on the mend.
There is an upside to this saga though, hopefully new members who don't know who chris and cacycleworks are will catch on and support a business that goes above and beyond for all their customers. I've been a happy customer for years and can't recommend them highly enough.
paul.
Ditto [thumbsup]
And the M&M's that Candice puts in the parcels are tasty!! Dare I say "Candy from Candi" ?? [cheeky] :-*
Quote from: dragonworld on May 01, 2011, 03:29:11 AM
Ditto [thumbsup]
And the M&M's that Candice puts in the parcels are tasty!! Dare I say "Candy from Candi" ?? [cheeky] :-*
Aww I am glad you enjoyed the M&M's :) Take Care!
-Candice
Hey guys just a quick note to say I'm selling the Duke to regain some of my losses and help me get back on my feet. It was pretty much sold but the person has too many bike projects and when I called to finalise he decided he can't have another. Bit of a bugger because I thought I'd be getting money coming in so I hit the credit card up for things that were really needed for the Katana. Another lesson I've been dealt.
Anyway it's a 1998 748 (Aftermarket 916 single seater cosmetics) the one with the white face plate and white going across the back cowl.
I have every receipt and service papers. You'll see I always looked after it.
It's done going by memory(still in the shop) 79000k's but always maintained
Parts needed-
4 just to be safe inlet valves
4 inlet valve guides
2 cam belts
cams and chip as mentioned in a previous post 1 cam is apparently has a hare's dick tiny bend. Because these cams were not stock they'll all need to be replaced with a matching chip.
Not sure if the new head gasket can be used again.
I know this isn't the right section to sell a bike but I just wanted people to follow the story. If you are serious or no of anyone that could be drop me a line and we'll get more in depth.
I've been getting all my parts from the U.S and the parts needed would come around $800.00 but that's with 2nd hand cams all else is new OEM parts. If you know how to work on Ducati's this will turn out to be a great bargain. Even using a good mechanic this would still be a bargain Duke. I'm selling the bike for $4000ono and I'm in Sydney. I am going to list it on ebay and other places soon at that price but really don't want to have to deal with idiots who no nothing.