Ok, so as some of you all know I'm still a rookie rider. When I got my first "motorcycle wave" I thought it was pretty cool.
Today I'm out on the Monster [moto] and three guys on HD's pass going to opposite direction on a small road. I give the old casual hand down wave and these guys just ignored me. I thought .. whatever. then I saw them again about 15 min later and the same thing.
I was like, thats cool whatever man..
Do you guys get this from HD riders? I guess some of them think their bikes are better so they dont acknowlege other riders?
just curious.
Not too often...but I would say that the Harley guys are the least likely to wave since most of them can't ride...so they have the grip of death on the bars and would wreck and die if they removed them [laugh]
Now that Duc Stew has a Harley can we wave at him? Can he wave back?
(or is it Hog Stew now?)
Quote from: RobJohn3 on June 14, 2008, 03:43:21 PM
........ Harley guys are the least likely to wave since most of them can't ride...so they have the grip of death on the bars and would wreck and die if they removed them [laugh]
This sums it up perfectly :D
i made the mistake of waving to a gomer pyle looking dude on a scooter once. he not only waved back. he followed me.
Only sport bike riders and metric cruiser guys wave to me when I'm on the Duke. When I'm on the HD everybody waves. I think if a Harley dude waves first or waves back he's a rider. If they ignore you or don't wave they aint a brother they just happen to ride.
There was a funny post with some funny links about the 'wave' a bit ago
http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=3375.0
I've found the HD riders who don't wave back, generally aren't *real* riders as noted above. They are the Rolex Riders that folks have come to know and love. In my (limited) experiences, it's been some of the most gizzled, hardcore looking biker types that are the most given to wave back, or even wave 1st.
When I would ride to my former job, I'd usually catch this rough looking dude on a flat black harley. He was big, burly, and looked like a genuine bad ass - and would always wave. Unfortunately I didn't get to wave back half the times since I'd encounter him as I was just exiting a 90 deg right and my left hand was busy. Oh well
the guys that dont wave also have the nickname "fair weather fairies" they are the people that dont ride except when its warm enough to go out in a tshirt, dot approved bandanna, and shorts.
I wave at the bike [thumbsup], it has no control over who buys it or pilots it.
Same goes for Goldwing riders and BMW riders for some reason.
Quote from: BomberHead on June 14, 2008, 03:58:40 PM
i made the mistake of waving to a gomer pyle looking dude on a scooter once. he not only waved back. he followed me.
[laugh]
i don't wave to anyone. But I will gladly return one.
i think the whole waving thing is dorky. i get it from the subaru impreza people too.
i also get the opposite. the "i have a turbo too" blow off valve thing from any dickhead with a turbo and a loud chirpy BOV.
oh well, i guess that means i'm not a "brother" and have no "soul". lol.
If I'm not at warp speed I wave at everybody... I would say that Harley riders are the least wavers of the bunch . I think it's because they do feel some superiority on those American bikes. The dressers tend to wave at me more than the sportier looking Harleys.
Quote from: vivaleduc on June 14, 2008, 06:31:32 PM
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Shouldn't that be a "HOG"?
i wave at everyone I can. If my hands are busy they get a nod.
If they don't acknowledge back that's their problem, not mine. Maybe they didn't see, maybe they're not comfortable one-handing.. etc etc.
Andy
its 50-50 with the harley guys, but the real riders usualy wave back or initiate.
Quote from: Privateer on June 14, 2008, 08:00:35 PM
i wave at everyone I can. If my hands are busy they get a nod.
If they don't acknowledge back that's their problem, not mine. Maybe they didn't see, maybe they're not comfortable one-handing.. etc etc.
+1 i believe one truly does not know the other riders state of mind at that moment in time. All one knows is one's own reaction to a non-waver. From my experience, I get and don't get waves from all types of riders during any given day.
I live about 10 minutes from the second biggest HD dealership in the US, so my territory is flooded with both Harley riders and "Harley riders". Most of the guys that really ride wave and wave back. Hey, they will even stir up conversations at the gas station or around town. As for the "Harley riders" (a.k.a. my neighbor). You know, the guys that ride two days out of the year but wear full riding gear (including leather bandana) on a daily basis just in case they lay their Tahoe down in a corner. They wouldn't dare wave at anything but another Harley. So what. I have no use for them anyway. If they turn their nose up to many times, they are bound to catch a bug sooner or later. I just wave and keep going.
On a side note, for better clarification on my idea of a "Harley Rider" (again, my neighbor). I was heading to work one pretty cold morning last January and he was outside also. He made his usual comment, " Why don't you go and get you a real bike." I replied, "I prefer bikes that will crank in the cold." He said," My Harley cranks just fine in the cold." Then I said, "Then why don't you ride it?" His final comment is one of the most thought provoking phrases I have ever heard. "You know, riding your bike doesn't make you a biker!" I thought for a second, but had nothing to say to that. I learned that day that what really makes you a biker, is your willingness to plaster the largest, orange, Harley Davidson Motor Company sign that could possibly fit on the back window of both your's and your wife's car. I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't drop his hand out of the window of his car and try to wave at the Harley's as they pass. Unless he just hangs out of the window and yells, "Hey, I ride too!". (Man, did I get off topic - Sorry)
I wave to everyone but weekend warriors......... and theyre on ALL types of bikes
I pretty much think all HD riders are douchebags and not worth noticing. I don't care whether they wave or not I ignore them by default. HDs are silly, outdated, and ugly. The waving thing is gay.
Quote from: psycledelic on June 14, 2008, 09:26:32 PM
His final comment is one of the most thought provoking phrases I have ever heard. "You know, riding your bike doesn't make you a biker!"
;D Thought provoking indeed.
I personally like that camaraderie, and I wave to all bikes, at least raise two fingers/nod if can't take my hand off. If I don't get a response, I make a mental note to talk to his/her mother [roll]
I have a question for you. does your state have a helmet law? if it does, don't wave to the people without helmets. the chances of them waiving to you are slim. if you do have a helmet law, wave to the guys with 3/4 helmets, they will wave back 3/4's of the time. if they wear a full face helmet they will wave back almost all of the time. if they are wearing those small brain buckets, don't bother. they hate you....... :o
the ron [evil]
Quote from: the ron on June 15, 2008, 07:44:45 AM
I have a question for you. does your state have a helmet law? if it does, don't wave to the people without helmets. the chances of them waiving to you are slim. if you do have a helmet law, wave to the guys with 3/4 helmets, they will wave back 3/4's of the time. if they wear a full face helmet they will wave back almost all of the time. if they are wearing those small brain buckets, don't bother. they hate you....... :o
the ron [evil]
Sad but true, no helmet, no sleeves = no wave
Top Ten Reasons Why Harley Riders Don't Wave Back
10. Afraid it will invalidate warranty.
9. Leather and studs make it too heavy to raise arm.
8. Refuse to wave to anyone whose bike is already paid for.
7. Afraid to let go of handlebars because they might vibrate off.
6. Rushing wind would blow scabs off the new tattoos.
5. Angry because just took out second mortgage to pay luxury tax on new Harley.
4. Just discovered the fine print in owner's manual and realized H-D is partially owned by Honda.
3. Can't tell if other riders are waving or just reaching to cover their ears like everyone else.
2. Remembers the last time a Harley rider waved back, he impaled his hand on spiked helmet.
1. They're too tired from spending hours polishing all that chrome to lift their arms.
Top Ten Reasons Why Gold Wing Riders Riders Don't Wave Back
10. Wasn't sure whether other rider was waving or making an obscene gesture.
9. Afraid might get frostbite if hand is removed from heated grip.
8. Has arthritis and the past 400 miles have made it difficult to raise arm.
7. Reflection from etched windshield momentarily blinded him.
6. The espresso machine just finished.
5. Was actually asleep when other rider waved.
4. Was in a three-way conference call with stockbroker and accessories dealer.
3. Was distracted by odd shaped blip on radar screen.
2. Was simultaneously adjusting the air suspension, seat height, programmable CD player, seat temperature, and satellite navigation system.
1. Couldn't find the "auto wave back" button on dashboard.
Top Ten Reasons Why Sportbikers Riders Riders Don't Wave Back
10. They have not been riding long enough to know they're supposed to.
9. They're going too fast to have time enough to register the movement and respond.
8. You weren't wearing bright enough gear.
7. If they stick their arm out going that fast they'll rip it out of the socket.
6. They're too occupied with trying to get rid of their chicken strips.
5. They look way too cool with both hands on the bars or they don't want to unbalance themselves while standing on the tank.
4. Their skin tight-kevlar-ballistic-nylon-kangaroo-leather suits prevent any position other than fetal.
3. Raising an arm allows bugs into the armholes of their tank tops.
2. It's too hard to do one-handed stoppies.
1. They were too busy slipping their flip-flop back on.
Top Ten Reasons Why BMW Riders Riders Don't Wave Back
10. New Aerostich suit too stiff to raise arm.
9. Removing a hand from the bars is considered "bad form."
8. Your bike isn't weird enough looking to justify acknowledgement.
7. Too sore from an 800-mile day on a stock "comfort" seat.
6. Too busy programming the GPS, monitoring radar, listening to ipod, XM, and talking on the cell phone.
5. He's an Iron Butt rider and you're not!
4. Wires from Gerbings is too short.
3. You're not riding the "right kind" of BMW.
2. You haven't been properly introduced.
1. Afraid it will be misinterpreted as a friendly gesture.
I'm sure we could come up with 10 for Duc riders too
Quote from: XTR on June 15, 2008, 09:27:04 AM
3. Raising an arm allows bugs into the armholes of their tank tops.
[laugh] [laugh]
It was funny when I would ride the Yamaha Warrior because it looked like a Harley from a short distance. I would get the Harley guys starting to wave, then as they got closer they would realize it wasn't a Harley and they would yank their hand back like they did something wrong.
I always let on to other bikers regardless of what they are riding but I have to say where I live in the UK, I am often ignored....I go home and my wife, mockingly, asks me if anybody waved back today. She knows how to hurt a guy. Perhaps all the other riders just think I am a posing bastard on my S4rs like others think Harley owners are. Anyway, I'll keep waving. [bang]
This sounds like a conversation women would have.
Quote from: Travman on June 15, 2008, 12:11:16 PM
This sounds like a conversation women would have.
Now That's funny!! As Homer Simpson once said. "It's funny 'cause it's true."
What amazed me reading through all of these posts is how so many of you think you know something about the person on the other bike just 'cause they wave or not...Wow! you guys are really perceptive...or maybe psychic?
As for me I seldom wave first, though I will always wave at someone on a Ducati if I notice them first (guess that makes me as elitist as the Harley only wavers...Oh well). I will return a wave from anyone unless I am trying to stay alive or doing something else of importance.
I agree with those who think it is pretty silly. "Back in the day"...there were fewer riders and it was a more difficult task to ride and wrench and actually get somewhere via motorcycle. I think it was more a sign of "Brother I know what you are dealing with and I'm with you there too." Hey, talk about knowing someone else's mind from a wave, huh?
Anyway...just too many riders to wave to them all and for me it is more of a distraction than that I am trying to dis someone.
To each his own. So ride on (or wave on) brothers.
I live in Tulsa Oklahoma, and the vast majority of bikes on the road are Harleys. ...and for the most part, I'd say they wave as much as anyone else on other bikes.
The only ones that never wave are those damn eco-riders on their scooters ...yeesh talk about a bunch of stuck up panty-wads :P
I wave to everyone and don't let it bother me if they don't wave back.
I do the same thing,i wave,i don't care if they don't wave back,i'm having fun....so who gives a s@#$%^t!!!! [thumbsup]
I gotta say that when I was up in the Northern IL/Southern WI area you pass a bike about every 4 minutes in the summer. Waving starts to get silly. You may as well just ride along like the queen with one hand out thereby confusing the fug outta everyone thinking you are turning left.
I have found there are certain rules of engagment around my parts.
Harley rider will wave if (and only if) your on a Harley. Or a bike that looks like a Harley at closing speed. I have experianced the "aborted wave" from Harley guy when on my old virago. They'd start to wave, realize that I was on a yamaha, and quickly recind their gesture.
Goldwings will wave at anybody or anything for that matter. Hondas, Suzukis, Vespas, and road signs are all in play for him. Very friendly.
Sportbikers. Generally follows the guidelines for Harley guy. Does not wave unless you are riding something sporty. The other day one crossed my path while at a 4 way stop while I was on my supermoto, as he passed through in front of me, he slowed down, looked the street tard up and down, and gave me a big thumbs up and a nod.
BMW guy. Apparenly too busy handling all that german technology to wave at anyone.
Enduro riders are just happy to be on some pavement for change. More than happy to throw a wave at their two wheeled cousins.
Me? I pretty much follow the guidlines for goldwingers. I happily ride along waving at everybody like an idiot when I have the chance.
Quote from: whaler on July 04, 2008, 10:10:05 PM
I have found there are certain rules of engagment around my parts.
Harley rider will wave if (and only if) your on a Harley. Or a bike that looks like a Harley at closing speed. I have experianced the "aborted wave" from Harley guy when on my old virago. They'd start to wave, realize that I was on a yamaha, and quickly recind their gesture.
Goldwings will wave at anybody or anything for that matter. Hondas, Suzukis, Vespas, and road signs are all in play for him. Very friendly.
Sportbikers. Generally follows the guidelines for Harley guy. Does not wave unless you are riding something sporty. The other day one crossed my path while at a 4 way stop while I was on my supermoto, as he passed through in front of me, he slowed down, looked the street tard up and down, and gave me a big thumbs up and a nod.
BMW guy. Apparenly too busy handling all that german technology to wave at anyone.
Enduro riders are just happy to be on some pavement for change. More than happy to throw a wave at their two wheeled cousins.
Me? I pretty much follow the guidlines for goldwingers. I happily ride along waving at everybody like an idiot when I have the chance.
Nice set of sumo's you got. Do you ride the KTM alot, from what I've heard, it is not recommended to put alot of street miles w/o the cush drive. I was thinking of turning my CRF230 into a sumo but it would be too short with the 17's.
A
I wave up high to everyone. No assumed political/social/popular posturing from a simple "howdy" wave up where everyone can see it. If they don't wave back, well then- maybe they'll think about it and wave to the next rider. /shrug
Trying to calculate the personality, brand/marque loyalty, stereotyped rider propensities for waving matrix is just riduculous. Wave if you want to, don't wave if you don't want to. You can't control the world and you wouldn't want everyone to think alike anyhow. Live, ride, and be happy that you can.
the more i ride the less i wave lately.
If your riding everyday and see multiple bikes along the way waving gets old.
I got another wave back from a cop the other day. [leo] :)
I was out for a long ride today and probably passed 100 or more riders on two lane roads . I wave as often as I can and figure if they don't wave back I'm the better person for it. I was surprised at how many H-D riders waved at me as i was all geared up on my 1098 R. Maybe it was because I was going fairly slow , cops everywhere pulling people over.
wave, don't wave, whatever. Sometimes i do, sometimes I don't. I usually wave back... Unless I'm busy with the left hand or lost in thought...
on the harley guys though, at gas stations I seem to get a lot of "ducati's always made a nice bike" sentiment. At least from the ones who seem to be in the know.....
up to the point that one gave me a set of ear plugs today
I wave @ everyone , even the scooters! I could care less if they wave back.Guess I've been riding so damned long that it's a habit. Up until five or six years ago everyone waved. I have noticed of the Harley guys that wave back are usually the "Hard core" riders , Not the once a week "hang the tie up" riders. I wave at all the cops I come across and %99 wave back.
Ok... Get over it.
It is not the Harley. It is the person! I can not believe that some people are so shallow that when someone does not wave they are considerd a "douche bag"
I personally wave when i can and i dont go out of my way - this is for safety puposes! I also own a harley and i wave when i can or want
DO NOT TAKE IT PERSONALLY IF SOME ONE DOES NOT WAVE If ytou are that in need of a wave go to the ocean [roll]
BTW - when i was passing thru New Mexico - EVERYBODY WAVED. It did not matter what they were riding. it's the culture of the riders
I wave at everybody on two wheels...it's the right thing to do.
I even wave at 696ers ;D
Quote from: ArguZ on July 07, 2008, 01:36:06 AM
I even wave at 696ers ;D
Wow way to go the extra mile! That would be hard for me to do.
Quote from: raulduke on July 06, 2008, 09:42:17 PM
I wave at everybody on two wheels...it's the right thing to do.
I have to agree...I used to only wave to "real bikes" e.g. Ducatis, Harleys, Kawis, ect. Then one day...a scooter of some type passed and I waved on accident...I thought "Oh that was smooth dumb donkey", then I started to think about it...isn't the wave supposed to be an acknowledgement of another rider and their safety? It shows that you are completely aware of your surroundings. So now, I just wave to anyone on two wheels and a motor...hell, being a cyclist...I would probably wave to them too.
As far as the Harley riders go...I would but at about 75% that wave back...the other 25% I think are too high on themselves.
[moto] <-- this smiling, lidless squid never waves to me. Poser.
Quote from: DCXCV on July 07, 2008, 10:14:17 AM
[moto] <-- this smiling, lidless squid never waves to me. Poser.
He waves to me...
I waved at a bicycler because I thought it would be funny. I laughed. :D My friend I was riding with saw me wave and he waved too.
The sumpregnant dog didn't wave back. >:(
Hey all. This is my first post on this forum (I think). Maybe my last depending on how many I offend.
Here in Colorado, all riders wave to one another EXCEPT for the Harley crowd. They only seem to wave to one another. I'm not sure why. It's sad really since we are all in it together.
Here is a list of 2 wheeled user groups from most polite, to least polite according to a reliable source (me) :) :
Dirt Bikers (most polite and fun, yes I am one too).
Street Bikers (always wave)
Mountain Bikers (just out to have fun like the dirt bikers but some don't like engines so they don't count)
BIG GAP HERE UNTIL WE GET TO THE BOTTOM
Road Bicyclists (almost as rude as Harley riders and actually shave their legs)
Harley Riders (seem to have the same entitlist attitude as the road bicyclists, AND think they are Pete Fonda)
Many Harley riders are morons from my experience. Many have the sole goal of getting from their house to the bar as quickly as possible, while looking cool (according to their own paradigm) and being loud (I don't mind loud if it relates to actual performance). I can't tell you how many guys and gals I see dumping their Harley's because they are too heavy. You can see them learning to ride at the local high school on Saturdays when the dealership puts on a class.
Maybe another poster had it correct when they said the riders are afraid to take their hands off the bars to wave.
Interestingly, I've had a lot of these folks try and race me on my Duc (used to have an '01 S4, now buying an '02 Foggy). They seem confused when I gap them by several hundred feet in just a short time.
One guy actually beat me. I was enjoying the nice sunny Colorado fall day, and he jumped me off the line at a stop light. I was laughing so hard, I missed 3rd gear and decided not to bother. We stopped at the next light and he shouted some profanity when he saw I was laughing so hard.
Sorry about the attitude towards this crowd. I grew up in the Colorado mountains. Back in the 70's, Harley gangs would come up to camp in the summer and their non-riding hobby was beating up innocent people, trashing private property, and shooting at things for fun. While walking down main street in Grand Lake, Co., I had my life threatened on numerous occasions by these thugs. So, when I see middle class, educated people trying to look and act like thugs, and idolizing these criminals, it really fires me up.
Yes, everyone says the Harley crowd is different these days. But about 7 years ago, I was in a small Nevada town when a rally rode through. I thought I would give them a 2nd chance and went up to check out the bikes. Within an hour, I had some drunk thug take a swing at me because I was looking, 'too closely' at his bike. Actually, I was admiring it and he was looking for a fight, just like the old days.
So, after pounding his short, fat, ugly butt, my days of being nice to thugs is over.
The truth is, I am a nice guy (too nice according to my wife). When I see a Harley rider, I often wave anyway, and just don't look over. Then I don't get pissed when the rider doesn't wave back.
Quote from: vivaleduc on July 07, 2008, 03:08:02 PM
I googled "harley forums", the first one that pops up is hdforums.com. Then I searched for "ducati", a few posts came up...none worrying about us Duc riders; Why are we so concerned about them?
Because we are so Jealous of them. Can’t be free without a fistful of chrome and beer. [roll]
i waved at a sport bike rider on Sat, i was in a parking lot taking a break, he was on his suzuki. I waved as he went by, he flipped me the bird and popped a wheelie as he went by me.
what an asshole. [bacon] [bacon] [bacon] [bacon]
Quote from: vivaleduc on July 07, 2008, 06:37:57 PM
I fixed it for you.
I don't think that anyone is jealous...it is just a matter of not worrying about it.
Yet we are on page 5 of not worrying about it, and thanks.
I don't care..I wave when I have a free left hand and am in a good mood.
50ers, racers, squids, Harleys...doesn't matter
And if they wave back or give me a positive reaction of some sort its cool...
The whole greeting stuff connects us and thats a lot more than cagers have [moto]
My buddy's brother just got himself a Harley and damn that thing is friggin heavy. However, he is not this stereotypical Harley rider. He waves at everyone we pass. It pretty interesting seeing 2 Ducs and a Harley riding together down the road. [beer]
I was riding and waved CHP this morning [leo] cause i couldn't tell until he passed by.......
Strangely he nodded :) back to me
Quote from: Brett on July 08, 2008, 07:13:09 AM
My buddy's brother just got himself a Harley and damn that thing is friggin heavy. However, he is not this stereotypical Harley rider. He waves at everyone we pass. It pretty interesting seeing 2 Ducs and a Harley riding together down the road. [beer]
until recently my crew included a sportster, 75CB750, me(on either my CB400f or 696), a triumph ST and sometimes even my wife on her vino 125.
if the harley was in front, sometimes we'd see guys start to wave, then pull the hand back in.
recently though the harley guy sold the sportster and bought a 1970 T100 instead
Most everyone I wave at waves back. Maybe it's because I'm a girl?
And there is one question I'm just burning to know.
What's a squid? I thought those were squishy things with tentacles that lived in the ocean?
Celeste
Quote from: MonsterLove on July 08, 2008, 02:30:51 PM
Most everyone I wave at waves back. Maybe it's because I'm a girl?
And there is one question I'm just burning to know.
What's a squid? I thought those were squishy things with tentacles that lived in the ocean?
Here is a link or two
http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=5812.0
http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=2075.0
http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=3349.0
http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=5280.0
Thanks for the links!
:( I guess I'm a squid myself, since I usually go sans jacket in summer. However, I do my very best not to be the "jerk on the motorcycle" ;D
Celeste
Wow, we're off topic, but I have to say this: Celeste, buy a jacket that has a removable liner. In the summer, you'll be cool but protected. I recently low-sided and my jacket (sans liner) saved my elbow.
Okay, on topic: are we supposed to wave to motorcycle cops? Never really thought about it. I just assumed I was bothering them by waving... Maybe I should. They're on motorcycles, too. [leo]
I've said this in another thread, but it looks like it needs repeating since there is so much Harley bashing going on. I'm NOT a brand snob so I wave at everyone on two wheels including scooters and cops in cars. If they don't wave back, no big deal. I figure it could be they didn't see me in time, they are busy or new to riding and not comfortable letting go. When I ride, it is most of the time on my Harley and not my Duc.
I'm happy to finally be on two wheels and I see no reason not the spread that joy around with a polite wave. Just because others can't bring themselves to change dinosaur thinking, doesn't mean I have to follow their lead. If no one makes the first move, then the walls we build up around ourselves from people who are different from us will continue to get higher.
Quote from: jclin on July 08, 2008, 04:41:39 PM
Okay, on topic: are we supposed to wave to motorcycle cops? Never really thought about it. I just assumed I was bothering them by waving... Maybe I should. They're on motorcycles, too. [leo]
I do and they usually wave back.
No helmet, No wave.
No Scooters - unless it is a very hot chick
Quote from: MTBryan on July 07, 2008, 03:38:15 PM
Sorry about the attitude towards this crowd. I grew up in the Colorado mountains. Back in the 70's, Harley gangs would come up to camp in the summer and their non-riding hobby was beating up innocent people, trashing private property, and shooting at things for fun. While walking down main street in Grand Lake, Co., I had my life threatened on numerous occasions by these thugs. So, when I see middle class, educated people trying to look and act like thugs, and idolizing these criminals, it really fires me up.
That demographic has changed - Now they are all lawyers and dentists.
The one thing they do that pisses me off the most is when their wife gets her own - way too big for a first bike, and they feel the need to "protect" her as she rides up the canyon (which she is not ready for) at 15 mph by hogging the lane and swerving into the oncoming lane at any safe pass opportunity. JUST LET US make the beast with two backsING PASS!!!
Quote from: Bick on July 09, 2008, 07:35:20 AM
No helmet, No wave.
No Scooters - unless it is a very hot chick
That demographic has changed - Now they are all lawyers and dentists.
The one thing they do that pisses me off the most is when their wife gets her own - way too big for a first bike, and they feel the need to "protect" her as she rides up the canyon (which she is not ready for) at 15 mph by hogging the lane and swerving into the oncoming lane at any safe pass opportunity. JUST LET US make the beast with two backsING PASS!!!
I love splitting the slow groups like that. They are like a confused herd of livestock once you get them into 3 or 4 mini stupid groups. [evil]
Or on a 4 lane pinning the riders that swerve out to prevent me from passing in the fast lane until the semis help split them up….. Oh for the love of god Just let me pass!!!
Sorry I have a little road rage left from my commute to work.