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Title: FCR'S
Post by: Joshua on May 18, 2011, 09:58:25 AM
I had to brag, I just purchased 41mm for my bike. Can't wait to get em & put them on. ;D If they show up by the weekend then i should be able get her back on her feet by Monday, hopefully the Sun pops back out. The only thing is I still need to fabricate some custom exhuast tips as I sold my arrows over the winter. I can deal with it being load as Sh*t. [evil]
Title: Re: FCR'S
Post by: Bendy on May 18, 2011, 01:07:35 PM
They're good stuff. Just got a set installed on my bike a few weeks ago. Took some serious fiddling in the way of main jet changes and needle clip position to get it to run right, but as soon as it ran right, it was abrupt. Like it never knew it ran wrong.

Various people have various reasons for their hard-ons after installing, it seems. My favorite is how it just smoothed everything out. Enging braking is a lot less violent, and revs are at a flatter constant rather than the V-twin extreme. It's like taking 45 degrees out of the cylinder spread.

I don't hear the whooshing noise advertised with pod filters, but my bike is loud as sin and I have hearing problems. Can't manage the power wheelies by accident, but I'm 215 pounds.

It's hard for me to say what actually did what, as well, since I installed ExactFit coils at the same time. And belts, plugs, oil change, chain tightening, new clutch slave, new-to-me cluster, guh.

Really, the best part is the fun size Snickers bar that Chris sealed individually along with a decal.

Ca-Cycleworks Sale! Buy 1 fun size Snickers bar, get FCR 41s free!
Title: Re: FCR'S
Post by: Nomad on May 18, 2011, 10:13:42 PM
Quote from: Bendy on May 18, 2011, 01:07:35 PM
They're good stuff. Just got a set installed on my bike a few weeks ago. Took some serious fiddling in the way of main jet changes and needle clip position to get it to run right, but as soon as it ran right, it was abrupt. Like it never knew it ran wrong.

Various people have various reasons for their hard-ons after installing, it seems. My favorite is how it just smoothed everything out. Enging braking is a lot less violent, and revs are at a flatter constant rather than the V-twin extreme. It's like taking 45 degrees out of the cylinder spread.

I don't hear the whooshing noise advertised with pod filters, but my bike is loud as sin and I have hearing problems. Can't manage the power wheelies by accident, but I'm 215 pounds.

It's hard for me to say what actually did what, as well, since I installed ExactFit coils at the same time. And belts, plugs, oil change, chain tightening, new clutch slave, new-to-me cluster, guh.

When I installed mine I changed everything else on the bike short of wheels and engine too, so hard to say what exactly the FCR's did.  The sound of them sucking in air when I whack the throttle open is very noticeable to me, along with a little mechanical rattling most of the time.  I had my bike down for so long with mods that it is hard to say if it is noticeably quicker, because I don't recall exactly what it was like before.  Mine bolted right up, didn't have to mess with the jetting.
No power wheelies for me in any gear, which I'm a little disappointed with as that was 'advertised.'  I weigh 160.
Title: Re: FCR'S
Post by: koko64 on May 19, 2011, 04:55:01 AM
2nd gear power wheelies for me. Nasty ones. [evil] 3rd gear wheelies up the mountain pass pinning it from 4500 rpm.

Motor has JE hi comp pistons, Kelley coils, open A/B, dialled cams, Termis, light flywheel, light clutch, inlet porting and valve job. The FCRs made the mods work together while the CV carbs were never quite right and held back the engine mod combination from fulfilling it's potential.

FCRs tied the package together, give better mileage and work at zero degrees C.

Title: Re: FCR'S
Post by: Nomad on May 19, 2011, 06:53:40 AM
So any suggestions on how I might achieve said wheelie?  Technique or anything... in reading the reviews on the CA Cycleworks page it didn't mention that any other work would have been needed in order to get those power wheelies in 2nd gear.  I'm relatively light, running the open airbox, etc.  When I shift to second and open the throttle all the way, it definitely takes up all the travel on the forks, but the wheel doesn't lift off the ground....
Title: Re: FCR'S
Post by: 671M900 on May 19, 2011, 07:19:04 AM
The forks should compress a good bit after you chop the throttle and before you crack open the throttle.
Title: Re: FCR'S
Post by: Joshua on May 19, 2011, 08:38:53 AM
Well I only have a 750 so I'm not expecting to be able to Power Wheelie even with the FCR's, I"ll definitly be trying. I'm really hoping to get a overall better throttle response. I havn't rode since last year but Since I got the bike I could open the throttle all the way and it would just lag off the get go. I know it's carbs and not FI but what i have heard is it should be a night and day difference with the FCR's and the Mikuni's for throttle response.

This will be the biggest change to the bike other then exhaust, I did go with the pod kit which I was already running on the mikuni's. I haven't heard anything bad about them and this will/Should get me by until I can afford to have flywheel and engine work performed in the future..


I will be calling Chris if I don't get that snickers bar ;D
Title: Re: FCR'S
Post by: Nomad on May 19, 2011, 08:55:29 AM
I thought the 39mm FCR's were recommended over the 41's for the 750, no?
Title: Re: FCR'S
Post by: Joshua on May 19, 2011, 09:18:22 AM
Talking to Chris he said I wouldn't be able to tell the difference on a 750 between teh 39s and 41s.  figuring they will leave room to grow if I go more indepth  with engine work and I can always re-jet the 41s if they seem to be to much for the 750. I don't want to limit myself to the 39s, But you are correct 39s are recommended for the 750. I have bigger dreams for her then just exhuast and carb work in the future.
Title: Re: FCR'S
Post by: duc_fan on May 19, 2011, 01:45:26 PM
Quote from: Nomad on May 18, 2011, 10:13:42 PM
...  Mine bolted right up, didn't have to mess with the jetting.
No power wheelies for me in any gear, which I'm a little disappointed with as that was 'advertised.'  I weigh 160.

It may be running with the out-of-the-box jetting, but if it's down on power, sounds like jets may be in order.  Carbs are more sensitive to the specific setup of your motor... even minor changes can require rejetting.  The kit builder/manufacturer provides "vanilla" jets that'll function, but to really dial it in you need to find the correct jetting for your motor as its currently configured... A/F ratio should be close to 14.7 all through the rev range (maybe a tad richer when accelerating) to maximize power.  Get thineself a Colortune or have a shop dyno it with an exhaust gas analyzer... then you'll know for sure whether it's too rich or too lean.

Colortune is available here (http://www.autoexpertproducts.com/colortune-14mm.htm), or here (http://www.mossmotors.com/Shop/ViewProducts.aspx?PlateIndexID=31629), or here (http://www.baconsdozen.co.uk/tools/Colortune.htm)... I ordered mine from that last link, and I ordered the kit that included the 12mm and 10mm adaptors.  Wound up being around $58 USD shipped at the then-current exchange rate.
Title: Re: FCR'S
Post by: scott_araujo on May 19, 2011, 04:40:15 PM
ColorTunes are cool.  Nothing quite as cool as watching the flame front in your engine.

Scott
Title: Re: FCR'S
Post by: duc_fan on May 19, 2011, 05:28:31 PM
Quote from: scott_araujo on May 19, 2011, 04:40:15 PM
ColorTunes are cool.  Nothing quite as cool as watching the flame front in your engine.

Scott

Yep.  :)  I was totally geekin' out when I got mine in the mail... went out and used it to diagnose a faulty fuel injector on the VW within an hour of opening the package.

Blue flames are cool.  [thumbsup]
Title: Re: FCR'S
Post by: scott_araujo on May 19, 2011, 08:17:16 PM
I say it beats the gas tester for pure fun and entertainment while doing the same job.

Scott
Title: Re: FCR'S
Post by: Bendy on May 20, 2011, 12:28:18 AM
Quote from: Nomad on May 18, 2011, 10:13:42 PM
The sound of them sucking in air when I whack the throttle open is very noticeable to me, along with a little mechanical rattling most of the time.  I had my bike down for so long with mods that it is hard to say if it is noticeably quicker, because I don't recall exactly what it was like before.  Mine bolted right up, didn't have to mess with the jetting.
No power wheelies for me in any gear, which I'm a little disappointed with as that was 'advertised.'  I weigh 160.
The intake pulse is audible, but I have a hard time describing it as the colloquial 'sucking', and even less how other scores of folk have deemed it, a 'whoosh' or a 'honk' (???) -- doesn't fit the definition of either, in my opinion. And it's generally only noticeable when I'm rolling on in too high of a gear. The chirp does seriously indeed stand out, though.

--

I'm a tad rich with my mains where they're at. The stock 155s had to come out for 170s. Yeah. And I went down two notches on the needle clips. I guess V heads and circa '99 DP straight-through cans really make for good breathing.

I've had great luck with easier starting, as well, now that I think about it. I guess the Mikunis were the prime source of cold blood. It's kind of absurd just how many benefits the FCRs offer. The world doesn't usually give so lavishly without taking somewhere, granted they're an expensive hangon, but we've all dropped more greenbacks on worse.

Also,
(http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/2139/yeahbuddyc.jpg)
Yeah! In your face, non-believers!
Title: Re: FCR'S
Post by: Joshua on May 23, 2011, 02:28:05 PM
Well in anticipation of my carbs showing up, I decided to clean the bike and get the old carbs taken off. i went a little over board and took the whole damn thing apart.
(http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/248205_228408423842310_100000194628088_1131599_2118626_n.jpg)(http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/225394_228408347175651_100000194628088_1131598_6336194_n.jpg)(http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/247418_228408273842325_100000194628088_1131597_3470426_n.jpg)
Much easier then I thought, i started with the wire harness, that took longer then anything else and everything else came apart very easily. everything #'ed & bagged accordingly of course. I've always wanted to powder coat the frame and i figured with 17000 miles on her replacing the bearing would be a good Idea for everything. So know I get to call daric at Cheshire and see if he can order me swing arm, steering, shock  bearings with a quick turn around, i can only hope.

Now I've decided to go with a gold powdercoat to somewhat match the brembo calipers, Shock will be the same color and so will the forks. Swing arm will be powdered red along with the headlight & mounts. triples, rearsets & intake tubes powdering black, I would like to possible powder the heads but I want to get back on the road sometime this year and even though I'm confident on tearing the bike apart and adjusting the valves I'm scared to remove the head and all the componets for powder to be done.

Anyways i might need to change this to a build thread rather then a thread about FCR"S. Wish me luck and if any of you have photoshop and would be willing to render a picture with my description that would be sweet. ;)
(http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/29275_129253933757760_100000194628088_357435_1620478_n.jpg)
Title: Re: FCR'S
Post by: Joshua on June 20, 2011, 04:43:51 PM
Well I'm back up and riding, New FCR's are great I need to mess with the ratio a bit the throttle response is amazing. So here is my before and after shots.

before
(http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/255148_233970246619461_100000194628088_1178611_3017065_n.jpg)

after
(http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/247144_233975519952267_100000194628088_1178642_3900303_n.jpg)
(http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/250445_233975459952273_100000194628088_1178641_4208766_n.jpg)

My Master Cylinder on my clutch went out so i ended up purchasing a new brembo remote resevoir. of course had to match the brake so I bought that also and since I was up grading i went with a new slave cylinder. Santa came early this year. There not on the previous pictures

Sorry for the crappy pic.
(http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/247161_233977446618741_100000194628088_1178680_2794269_n.jpg)

I couldn't be happier with it. I finally re routed the wiring and cleaned up the bike to where I think it flows smoothly.  I would like to say I'm done but I'll always find something to that I could make better.
Title: Re: FCR'S
Post by: Mother on July 11, 2011, 02:03:20 AM
More pics of the Rubi

Title: Re: FCR'S
Post by: Joshua on July 12, 2011, 02:41:50 PM
Right On  [thumbsup]. My other mistress, All i got are poser pics with the jeep as i haven't got any good wheeling trips in this year but here are a couple.
Full view shot of Duc-Jeep
(http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/261204_254432051239947_100000194628088_1250913_3993836_n.jpg)

The day after she had a 4in growth spirt and bought new shoes.
(http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/188403_205620859454400_100000194628088_940904_6304892_n.jpg)

after fishing at Hagg, no luck fishing there after 3 weekends.
(http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/261665_254428204573665_100000194628088_1250894_870042_n.jpg)

The swing out tire carrier I made. I also made the front bumper, winch plate/stinger, and i'm now in the progress of making my sliders. 
(http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/264039_254428487906970_100000194628088_1250902_3108164_n.jpg)

What are you Wheeling, jacob?
Title: Re: FCR'S
Post by: Tailgunner on July 12, 2011, 04:09:42 PM
Joshua, nice job on both. I'm curious about the new exhaust exits on the Duc, can you hear me?  :D Those are simply exhaust tips only? Does it run well and pull hard even in the upper RPMs? Obviously LOUD!

I cored stock cans on my carby Monster years ago and it never climbed past 90 mph while running those. Yours good? I like the black header wrap too  [thumbsup]
Title: Re: FCR'S
Post by: lawmaster891 on July 12, 2011, 06:59:37 PM
ive been considering putting fcr's on my bike this winter
Title: Re: FCR'S
Post by: Mother on July 12, 2011, 10:59:21 PM
Quote from: Joshua on July 12, 2011, 02:41:50 PM


What are you Wheeling, jacob?


neat toys

no real pics either

Driveway
(http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/164083_161416500569086_100001022103264_324584_848404_n.jpg)

Hillockburn
(http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/163453_161416383902431_100001022103264_324579_4137538_n.jpg)

I was headed to browns camp this weekend for the Jolly Jeepers rally but my pops and I got the "youre-late-you-suck" letter so we miss out this year
Title: Re: FCR'S
Post by: lawmaster891 on July 13, 2011, 04:52:30 PM
Nice Jeep Pix!