Wear my US Navy sweatshirt while in England?
See'n how they took out another high level target..... is it asking to get f'd with?
Personally I would say to be as low profile as possible
But
It's England
And
There is no way you will be mistaken as anything other than a 'merican
So make the beast with two backs it
Wear it proud
I would say no, don't wear it. And this is coming from someone who spent quite a bit of time living over there, and is still in the service. Don't be that guy.
Don't let the duck tell you who you are joel
Besides
He wears a mask
Can't be trusted
Has no bearing on who he is, just how he advertises.
If'n it were just me.... i'd rock with a big grin on my face just cuz..... but see'n how the family will be there .... I don't want to bring any drama their way.
Quote from: Jacob on June 04, 2011, 08:15:55 PM
There is no way you will be mistaken as anything other than a 'merican
Have you seen Joel? He's as pasty as any of those limey bastards. If he keeps his mouth shut he could pass. ;D
sac
I figure i'll just walk around spewing Monty Python quotes to try and blend in.
Quote from: SacDuc on June 04, 2011, 08:48:34 PM
Have you seen Joel? He's as pasty as any of those limey bastards. If he keeps his mouth shut he could pass. ;D
sac
I have indeed
His teeth are far too straight
And
His eyes are too close together
They'll sniff him out inside 20 minutes
If he wears orange, he could pretend to be Dutch...
They're kinda tall and pasty, right?
;)
[bacon]
Wear a Canadian Navy shirt, that'll really confuse them. ;D
(http://images5.cpcache.com/product/123241615v27_480x480_Front_Color-White.jpg)
No
What?
:-*
How about a soccer jersey from Argentina? Wonder which would get "attention" sooner?
Quote from: bobspapa on June 04, 2011, 07:57:24 PM
Wear my US Navy sweatshirt while in England?
See'n how they took out another high level target..... is it asking to get f'd with?
Its England. Not Iran, Syria or Afghanistan. Last time I looked the US Navy were on the same side as the British [thumbsup].
Wear whatever the hell you like, as if they'd give a shit how another Yank tourist is dressed. Wont even get a second glance.
Quote from: ungeheuer on June 05, 2011, 04:48:41 AM
Its England. Not Iran, Syria or Afghanistan. Last time I looked the US Navy were on the same side as the British [thumbsup].
Wear whatever the hell you like, as if they'd give a shit how another Yank tourist is dressed. Wont even get a second glance.
Care to make it interesting?
I've got a $20 in my pocket that days he will get negative attention for wearing either a Navy or Argentina shirt.
Joel, wear the shirt every day so that I can win this bet!
;D
wear this
http://www.zazzle.com/god_shave_the_queen_tshirt-235632875923553458 (http://www.zazzle.com/god_shave_the_queen_tshirt-235632875923553458)
Quote from: krolik on June 04, 2011, 10:43:15 PM
Wear a Canadian Navy shirt, that'll really confuse them. ;D
(http://images5.cpcache.com/product/123241615v27_480x480_Front_Color-White.jpg)
Canada has a navy? Who knew?
Quote from: lethe on June 05, 2011, 08:55:38 AM
wear this
http://www.zazzle.com/god_shave_the_queen_tshirt-235632875923553458 (http://www.zazzle.com/god_shave_the_queen_tshirt-235632875923553458)
The Royal haters would line up to kick his ass. [laugh]
My thought is that as a "guest" in another country one should be gracious. Having said that, I have no idea if wearing it would be seen as an "in your face" act or neutral or whatever.
If you want to wear it, go for it. If it were me, I would cease wearing it if it came off as being a problem.
Also, I've never been to England, but from what I understand some parts of London are full of very radicalized Muslims. I don't think I would hang out there, regardless of what I chose to wear.
Dress in a non-descript manner....have your wife wear a burka and walk 5 paces behind you
Quote from: bobspapa on June 04, 2011, 08:48:22 PM
If'n it were just me.... i'd rock with a big grin on my face just cuz..... but see'n how the family will be there .... I don't want to bring any drama their way.
and this pretty much answers your own question.
when in doubt, don't...
THe problem with England is the large Pakistani and british-born muslim population.
I don't think the English people would mind but I personally wouldn't draw that kind of attention to myself in a place that I am not familiar with. Plus the international flights issue.
Terrorist A: Where are you going to stand when you push the button?
Terrorist B: (Scans crowd and see's Joel's shirt) Right next to that guy.
^ he blowed up good
;D
Quote from: rgramjet on June 05, 2011, 08:28:58 AM
Care to make it interesting?
I've got a $20 in my pocket that days he will get negative attention for wearing either a Navy or Argentina shirt.
Just for the shirt?? I'd be delighted to take your bet if we could be certain that any negative reaction was due solely to the shirt. I dont think Britain gives a fat flying make the beast with two backs what you wear. I believe that if you behave like a decent visitor, you'll be treated as such.
Quote from: Raux on June 05, 2011, 12:55:20 PM
THe problem with England is the large Pakistani and british-born muslim population.
Quote from: hbliam on June 05, 2011, 01:20:06 PM
Terrorist A: Where are you going to stand when you push the button?
Terrorist B: (Scans crowd and see's Joel's shirt) Right next to that guy.
Just because you're paranoid doesnt mean the bastards are not out to get you [roll].
Seriously, you're more likely to get run over by a car when you look the wrong way crossing the road. Coz you
will look the wrong way.
here in Europe there are a LOT of sleeper cells. plus 2nd gen locally borne Muslim extremists, etc.
Quote from: Raux on June 06, 2011, 01:22:39 AMhere in Europe there are a LOT of sleeper cells. plus 2nd gen locally borne Muslim extremists, etc.
and nothing more likely to incite the lurking plethora of sleeping extremists into violent jihad.....
than...
a provocative display...
of Naval apparel.
While you're at it make sure you dont wear your Levi's or Nikes especially while drinking Coca Cola at a Londonistan McDonalds [thumbsup].
Yup on second thoughts, leave the Imperialist sweatshirt at home and wear something less conspicuous.
Probably best to try to blend in and dress like the locals....
(http://islamicpost.files.wordpress.com/2008/06/prince-charles.jpg)
Wear a thong, snake-skin cowboy boots, a green cape, a sombrero and some huge cheap sunglasses...
Everyone will be too busy giving you a wide berth to care where you're from...
Besides, I KNOW you want to!
Quote from: Duck-Stew on June 06, 2011, 05:34:59 AM
Wear a thong, snake-skin cowboy boots, a green cape, a sombrero and some huge cheap sunglasses...
Everyone will be too busy giving you a wide berth to care where you're from...
Besides, I KNOW you want to!
[laugh] [laugh] [laugh] [laugh]
true sometime the best statement to make is one that scares, repulses or confuses the hell out of people
Joel , you are going to the wretched island of my birth. Wear whatever you like as long as its waterproof. Its summer and it rains a lot. You'll know its summer coz the rain is warm. In winter the rain is cold. [laugh]
Quote from: badgalbetty on June 06, 2011, 05:54:08 AM
Joel , you are going to the wretched island of my birth. Wear whatever you like as long as its waterproof. Its summer and it rains a lot. You'll know its summer coz the rain is warm cold. In winter the rain is cold snow. [laugh]
^^ Fixed ;D.
Quote from: ungeheuer on June 06, 2011, 04:21:52 AM
and nothing more likely to incite the lurking plethora of sleeping extremists into violent jihad.....
than...
a provocative display...
of Naval apparel.
you jest... but with the incident at the frankfurt airport recently and the WIDE coverage of the NAVY SEALS killing OBL... Navy apparel is not what I would wear.
Quote from: Duck-Stew on June 06, 2011, 05:34:59 AM
Wear a thong, snake-skin cowboy boots, a green cape, a sombrero and some huge cheap sunglasses...
Everyone will be too busy giving you a wide berth to care where you're from...
Besides, I KNOW you want to!
This.
Quote from: Duck-Stew on June 06, 2011, 05:34:59 AM
Wear a thong, snake-skin cowboy boots, a green cape, a sombrero and some huge cheap sunglasses...
Everyone will be too busy giving you a wide berth to care where you're from...
Besides, I KNOW you want to!
Wouldn't they mob him thinking it was Elton John? :-\
;D
Just wear a T-shirt that has a big 'ol "TEXAS" across the front and back if you're trying to get some Euro attention
Quote from: gh0stie on June 06, 2011, 11:13:07 AM
Just wear a T-shirt that has a big 'ol "TEXAS" across the front and back if you're trying to get some Euro attention
Better yet: "Don't Mess With Texas!"
Quote from: ducpainter on June 06, 2011, 11:06:11 AM
Wouldn't they mob him thinking it was Elton John? :-\
no they would just mistake him for a Member of Parliament or the House of Lords in his weekend spanking attire
Now that I think about it, why the hell aren't capes more popular? ???
Quote from: Speedbag on June 06, 2011, 02:03:44 PM
Now that I think about it, why the hell aren't capes more popular? ???
I think they might be in Circuses, Magic Acts, Mens Professional Wrestling and other sundry guy-guy venues along with other accoutrements suggested by Duck-Stew
and I say this in the spirit of diversity, tolerance and inclusionary embrace of alternate lifestyles with the utmost of respect
Quote from: ungeheuer on June 06, 2011, 01:06:53 AM
Just because you're paranoid doesnt mean the bastards are not out to get you [roll].
Seriously, you're more likely to get run over by a car when you look the wrong way crossing the road.
The sheep always accuse the sheepdogs of being paranoid. That's cool. You play your part, I'll play mine.
Quote from: gh0stie on June 06, 2011, 11:13:07 AM
Just wear a T-shirt that has a big 'ol "TEXAS" across the front and back if you're trying to get some Euro attention
Odd story. While in London I got roped into going on the tour of the tower of London. Early in the tour we stopped and the guy leading the tour says,
"Is there anyone here from Germany?"
A few people indicate that they are indeed from Germany.
The tour leader continues, "Is there anyone here from Sweden?"
Again a few people let out a murmur.
This goes on and on until we cover most of the continent and the major Asian countries.
Finally he asks, "Is anyone here from Texas?" Well that's odd, I thought.
And a couple of buckle wearing yahoos in the back yell, "YEEHAW!!"
And the tour guide says, "That means the rest of you must be from the United States."
WTF?
Later that same day I as getting lunch at a pub and saw "Tex-Mex Chili on a Baugette" as an option.
Just wrong.
sac
at least it was on a baguette...they could have served it up on a croissant :)
Quote from: RAT900 on June 06, 2011, 03:30:05 PM
at least it was on a baguette...they could have served it up on a croissant :)
which begs the question: How can you have your country so close to France yet have your nation's "cuisine" rank right below Bangladeshi fare on the tasty scale.
The other stellar menu item at that particular pub was the Po' Boy. which to brings to my mind images of New Orleans style sandwiches heaped high with shrimp or other goodies. But no. Not in this hall of fine dining. The chef of this establishment saw fit to offer his version of a Cheese Po' Boy and a Meat Po' Boy. The Cheese Po' Boy consisted (in its entirety) of a 4" x 4" x 1" thick slab of unidentifiable cheese. while the Meat Po' Boy consisted of a 4" x 4" x 1" thick slab of unidentifiable meat. The latter option was accompanied by a bottle of "brown sauce." Though, were you to request a bottle of "brown sauce" for your Cheese Po' Boy, I'm certain that you could douse it thoroughly without encountering judgement or scorn. It seems acceptable to put that shit on anything and everything.
sac
Quote from: SacDuc on June 06, 2011, 08:49:12 PM
which begs the question: How can you have your country so close to France yet have your nation's "cuisine" rank right below Bangladeshi fare on the tasty scale.
sac
funny how a theoretical line in the sand (or Channel) can make a world of difference
one need only to look at our southern border to appreciate that the dirt is the same, the humans are the same, the sun, weather and sky are too....
but that line in the sand makes all the difference in the world when it comes to quality of life
That being said....you realize that Fraunce and England have been at war for several centuries now....
while the war is not as overtly prosecuted as it once was with gaily plumaged subjects lining up at several paces blasting each other to ribbons on open fields
it is nevertheless still going on...
When the Brits identified Mad Cow they knowingly exported the contaminated beef to Fraunce (steak tartare anyone?)....I imagine they felt that any nation that thought Jerry Lewis was funny was already brain-dead so little harm would come of their evil export strategy
...this was no doubt a move that was also a payback on the part of the Brits after the French sold those sneaky Exocet missiles to the Argentinians just in time/during the Falklands Island War...which resulted in some really ugly damage to the Queen's fleet
then again in the world of Monty Python-esque Fraunch-Taunting...we have the advertisements in the Gallic media....offering free food and accommodations for any Frenchman who wishes to cross the Channel to England and be sterilized
it seems that France still has laws on the books that forbid self-mutilation and other assisted forms of mutilation....
this statutory umbrella has encompassed Vasectomies....therefore the happily married frenchman who wishes to avoid impregnating his mistresses, hotel house cleaning staff (or possibly even his wife) must leave France for the procedure.
One must read the papers carefully to glean news of these on-going cold-war skirmishes..... so that they may appreciate the undercurrent of old provincial animus that runs so strongly beneath the veneer of public back-slapping and EEC blather
Wait a cotton picken minute.......no self mutilation? Does that include fake boobies?? F that!
And Sac, "proper English breakfast"= [puke]
a proper english breakfast consists of whatever leftovers that are stale cold and preferably mouldy washed down with a few opened bottles of last nights unfinished beer. Thats the kind of meal one needs to start the day in that drab cold miserable place. And then there is the food one eats in winter....Boiled socks (used as a Mutton substitute)and dirty dishwater with porridge added to dilute it.Yum. Ahhh those were the days........
Quote from: badgalbetty on June 07, 2011, 05:56:00 AM
a proper english breakfast consists of whatever leftovers that are stale cold and preferably mouldy washed down with a few opened bottles of last nights unfinished beer. Thats the kind of meal one needs to start the day in that drab cold miserable place. And then there is the food one eats in winter....Boiled socks (used as a Mutton substitute)and dirty dishwater with porridge added to dilute it.Yum. Ahhh those were the days........
+1
Don't forget the brown sauce to hide what it is that you're eating!! You can scoff at Brown Sauce, SacDuc, but it does its job well. I must have gone through buckets of brown sauce when I was living in Blighty, all in the name of tricking my brain into believing there was edible food on my plate.
Quote from: RAT900 on June 06, 2011, 11:22:07 PM
That being said....you realize that Fraunce and England have been at war for several centuries now....
while the war is not as overtly prosecuted as it once was with gaily plumaged subjects lining up at several paces blasting each other to ribbons on open fields
it is nevertheless still going on...
This is exactly the part that baffles me. Usually war ultimately results in a cross contamination of cultures. The French influence in Vietnam and the fact that the only decent take away in the UK is curry are two examples. If you tour any of the manner homes in the British countryside they are almost exclusively decorated with Louis XIV furniture. These are war spoils that simultaneously say make the beast with two backs You to the French and let the world know that your nobility goes back many generations. And until the industrial revolution British fashion, medicine, philosophy, etc, borrowed heavily from French thinking. And they had the good sense to by and large stay away from French architecture (other than the gratuitous use of misplaced flourishes, the fleur de lis being particularly abused). Yet the most elevated part of French culture, the food and wine, the Brits ran from like poison. I don't get it. In Paris Escoffier was codifying the greatest cuisine in all of Europe and a couple hundred miles away some middle class Brit as reheating last nights Spotted Dick. It baffles the mind.
sac
Quote from: SacDuc on June 07, 2011, 12:54:14 PM
This is exactly the part that baffles me. Usually war ultimately results in a cross contamination of cultures. The French influence in Vietnam and the fact that the only decent take away in the UK is curry are two examples. If you tour any of the manner homes in the British countryside they are almost exclusively decorated with Louis XIV furniture. These are war spoils that simultaneously say make the beast with two backs You to the French and let the world know that your nobility goes back many generations. And until the industrial revolution British fashion, medicine, philosophy, etc, borrowed heavily from French thinking. And they had the good sense to by and large stay away from French architecture (other than the gratuitous use of misplaced flourishes, the fleur de lis being particularly abused). Yet the most elevated part of French culture, the food and wine, the Brits ran from like poison. I don't get it. In Paris Escoffier was codifying the greatest cuisine in all of Europe and a couple hundred miles away some middle class Brit as reheating last nights Spotted Dick. It baffles the mind.
sac
You raise some interesting observations..tribal cross-pollination through war and conquest has often improved the lot of both the conquering and the conquered...(in the case of the conquered usually after a harsh ramp-up and transition period)
All cultures at the Macro (stereotyping) level have their blind spots....I would list some of them out but that would run the risk of my being adjudicated a misanthropic troll
I suppose in the case of the Brits it is a dietary blind spot...I don't think we will see Anthony Bourdain do a "No Reservations" episode of England any time soon.
I did a Google search of "British Cuisine" and the results were lamentable....Haggis was mentioned but that is more of a legacy desperate survival measure employed by starving Scottish Highlanders during various repressions...and was likely the last stop before resorting to gnawing on rocks and tree bark...or lapsing into cannibalism
and quite possibly it was the impetus for the invention of Scotch whiskey....whose purpose was two-fold....to deaden the brain and the taste buds in order to consume haggis....and to mitigate the awful digestive after-effects
It will always be a mystery as to why some things will be embraced and adopted and others shunned or dismissed in the commerce between cultures
for instance I am off to Montecatini next week....in researching this city I have learned that the Medici's invaded the city in the 1500's and finding little of perceived value they confiscated all the windows and doors from the city and marched off with them....
surely there had to be something of better value than used doors and windows....like maybe some of the women or something?
I suppose I will find out first-hand in fairly short order.........
I like Haggis.
Quote from: ungeheuer on June 08, 2011, 04:33:11 AM
I like Haggis.
as a source of nutrition or companionship? ;D
Quote from: RAT900 on June 08, 2011, 04:39:31 AM
as a source of nutrition or companionship? ;D
Thanks RAT... You totally made my morning with that zinger!!!
Quote from: RAT900 on June 08, 2011, 04:39:31 AM
as a source of nutrition or companionship? ;D
Spicy McHaggis?
Dropkick Murphys - The Spicy McHaggis Jig (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZN3weW1udE#normal)
[laugh] [laugh] Oh God...the dreaded Beer Goggles Syndrome
We used to call it..... "Drinkin' them pretty"
Quote from: RAT900 on June 08, 2011, 04:39:31 AM
as a source of nutrition or companionship? ;D
[laugh] [clap]
To the best of my knowledge its good for neither ;D
I likes it anyway :P.
ahhh yes guilty pleasure foods....my weakness is Ox Tail Stew....once or twice a year I will whip up a batch....
any more than that is to fast track to a myocardial infarction
tastes well great (to me) but it tends to kill the appetite rather than satisfy it....not unlike the effect of White Castle "hamburgers"
and the digestive consequences are considerable....
my wife howls at me to dig a pit in the back yard to use rather than the indoor plumbing...
and to take the garden hose to my ass when I have exhausted my guts
from...
How to dress when in England?
to...
Colonic irrigation
...all in the one thread.
[laugh]
Quote from: ungeheuer on June 09, 2011, 05:22:54 AM
from...
How to dress when in England?
to...
Colonic irrigation
...all in the one thread.
[laugh]
We are thread-jacking
GODS
Quote from: RAT900 on June 09, 2011, 01:26:52 AM
tastes well great (to me) but it tends to kill the appetite rather than satisfy it....not unlike the effect of White Castle "hamburgers"
Don't be blaspheming The Castle!!!
Yum. [drool]
(although the gastrointestinal effect is likely akin to the oxtail stew)