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Local Clubs => OZ monsters => Topic started by: monstermick58 on July 25, 2011, 04:17:21 AM

Title: Chain Breakers
Post by: monstermick58 on July 25, 2011, 04:17:21 AM
Could anyone recommend a quality chain breaker/ riveting tool, I need to add a third tool to my never expanding tool collection, so it will be Hammer (not too large), chisel (not to small) and soon a chain breaker. And if you have had one that was just plain crap, pipe up, I don't need to throw money at something that doesn't work properly.
And yeah, I've checked flea bay, not real sure which way to go.







                                Mmick
Title: Re: Chain Breakers
Post by: WTSDS on July 25, 2011, 04:49:49 AM
I only use chains with joining links, but bookmarked this link ages ago. The tools were highly recommended on either DMF or TOB

http://www.mikesxs.net/products-7.html?category_id=7.1 (http://www.mikesxs.net/products-7.html?category_id=7.1)
Title: Re: Chain Breakers
Post by: rendang on July 25, 2011, 05:26:20 AM

  I bought what I thought was a rear chain breaker kit when I bought a new chain for my bike. It broke when I tried to use it and I realize now, looking at the products in the link above, that I was sold a cam chain breaker !   [bang]
  In the end I just ground the ends off with a grinder, and tapped it out with a punch. From now on I'll just buy chains with joining links.



   
Title: Re: Chain Breakers
Post by: avizpls on July 25, 2011, 05:50:05 AM
Ive had 4 or 5 versions and the only one to hold up properly to more than one use is the motion pro set

this one CAN be used on drive chain. To make life easier, grind off the rivet head of the old chain and then press.

http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com/2/9/205/4893/ITEM/Motion-Pro-Chain-Riveting-Tool-Kit.aspx (http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com/2/9/205/4893/ITEM/Motion-Pro-Chain-Riveting-Tool-Kit.aspx)

Title: Re: Chain Breakers
Post by: FIFO on July 26, 2011, 03:18:47 AM
Chain breakers are for girls ;D

Go with an angle grinder ,Ball pein hammer and suitable anvil [thumbsup]

I asked the same question at the local bike shop and thats what they use :o

At the moment using an EK screw link works very well http://www.monsterparts.com/pc/EKSCREWLINK/Chain-Sprocket/EKSCREWLINK.html (http://www.monsterparts.com/pc/EKSCREWLINK/Chain-Sprocket/EKSCREWLINK.html)
Title: Re: Chain Breakers
Post by: Dockstrada on July 26, 2011, 04:04:57 AM
The best, also doubles as a master key 8)
(http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTFrlQk_464FzQDmCyxby6-wUS1dTipOEWgeRL6GWQpq3borerY)
Title: Re: Chain Breakers
Post by: Betty on July 26, 2011, 04:24:49 AM
We've got one of these:

http://www.ca-cycleworks.com/products/garage-accessories/rk-chain-breaker-and-press-riveter-kit-with-plastic-case-kit-includes-all-of-the-parts-listed-below (http://www.ca-cycleworks.com/products/garage-accessories/rk-chain-breaker-and-press-riveter-kit-with-plastic-case-kit-includes-all-of-the-parts-listed-below)

Yes, we bought it from overseas when we were buying other stuff.

But it is so simple to use even I managed to change a chain* ... and the bike is still in functioning order many thousands of kilometres later.

*OK so Jukie did supervise me
Title: Re: Chain Breakers
Post by: Betty on July 26, 2011, 04:26:49 AM
Quote from: Rob s on July 26, 2011, 03:18:47 AM
Chain breakers are for girls ;D

Hey!

I resemble that remark.
Title: Re: Chain Breakers
Post by: Dockstrada on July 26, 2011, 11:07:55 PM
Ok on a serious note ,the best and quickest I have come across , but it is only a breaker .

(http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRJZUalBFXXqrKCyewzX5VA5rCabtwtOSLO07mL-lzxelW5zOUp)
Title: Re: Chain Breakers
Post by: suzyj on July 26, 2011, 11:51:14 PM
Quote from: Dockstrada on July 26, 2011, 11:07:55 PM
Ok on a serious note ,the best and quickest I have come across , but it is only a breaker .

(http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRJZUalBFXXqrKCyewzX5VA5rCabtwtOSLO07mL-lzxelW5zOUp)

That's the one I have, tho I haven't needed it on my monster yet.
Title: Re: Chain Breakers
Post by: avizpls on July 27, 2011, 04:43:21 AM
Really? Cuz that's the one I broke like a joke before I even got CLOSE to popping the chain.
Title: Re: Chain Breakers
Post by: monstermick58 on July 27, 2011, 06:49:56 PM
Quote from: Rob s on July 26, 2011, 03:18:47 AM
Chain breakers are for girls ;D

Go with an angle grinder ,Ball pein hammer and suitable anvil [thumbsup]

I asked the same question at the local bike shop and that's what they use :o

At the moment using an EK screw link works very well http://www.monsterparts.com/pc/EKSCREWLINK/Chain-Sprocket/EKSCREWLINK.html (http://www.monsterparts.com/pc/EKSCREWLINK/Chain-Sprocket/EKSCREWLINK.html)



In the past Rob I have (and always will) grind the end of the pin down to the plate (regardless of what chain breaker you have you would be a fool not to grind the pin down) before using a chain breaker, pity the image doesn't come up when you hit that link, you got a picture Rob?


Quote from: Dockstrada on July 26, 2011, 04:04:57 AM
The best, also doubles as a master key 8)
(http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTFrlQk_464FzQDmCyxby6-wUS1dTipOEWgeRL6GWQpq3borerY)


Got one of those Dock, bit messy though and I cant get mine to extract the pin, go-figure  ;D


Quote from: Dockstrada on July 26, 2011, 11:07:55 PM
Ok on a serious note ,the best and quickest I have come across , but it is only a breaker .

(http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRJZUalBFXXqrKCyewzX5VA5rCabtwtOSLO07mL-lzxelW5zOUp)


Yep got one of those too! Well I think I have, my mate borrowed it in 2005 you would think that he would be finihed by now, they work very well, mine would be cloe to 20 years old.



Quote from: Betty on July 26, 2011, 04:24:49 AM
We've got one of these:

http://www.ca-cycleworks.com/products/garage-accessories/rk-chain-breaker-and-press-riveter-kit-with-plastic-case-kit-includes-all-of-the-parts-listed-below (http://www.ca-cycleworks.com/products/garage-accessories/rk-chain-breaker-and-press-riveter-kit-with-plastic-case-kit-includes-all-of-the-parts-listed-below)

Yes, we bought it from overseas when we were buying other stuff.

But it is so simple to use even I managed to change a chain* ... and the bike is still in functioning order many thousands of kilometres later.

*OK so Jukie did supervise me



I like the look of this one, no problems with quality Betty?
I think that having an all in one tool would be much more practical I now find that putting on a joining link is getting more difficult as I get older and more frail



Title: Re: Chain Breakers
Post by: Betty on July 27, 2011, 08:17:32 PM
Quote from: monstermick58 on July 27, 2011, 06:49:56 PM
I like the look of this one, no problems with quality Betty?

Well I don't really have a base knowledge to fall back on ... but considering I don't know what I am doing and it still seems to work - that might give an indication.
Title: Re: Chain Breakers
Post by: dragonworld. on July 27, 2011, 08:48:28 PM
I have a couple ranging from the $20 cheapo bike shop accessory type right through a top of the range $200+ sort,  ???

And I still find the quickest and easiest an angle grinder, pin punch and vise grips is the quickest and easiest!! KISS (Keep It Simple Stupid!) [thumbsup]
Title: Re: Chain Breakers
Post by: FIFO on July 28, 2011, 02:43:25 AM
Quote from: monstermick58 on July 27, 2011, 06:49:56 PM

pity the image doesn't come up when you hit that link, you got a picture Rob?


Hey Mick your making me work here [roll]
The last chain i did was for two dogs and i just rivited over the link with a ball pein hammer on an anvil, ie vice. [thumbsup]
Worked a treat.
But for what there worth if you get an ek chain just pay the little extra for a screw link.

http://www.ekchain.com/access.htm (http://www.ekchain.com/access.htm)

You don’t need special tools to install your new EK Chain. This unique, patented link gives a rivet-like fit, using only an 8mm wrench and a pair of pliers. It’s available as an option on many EK Chains.

(http://www.ekchain.com/images/stl1.jpg)  (http://www.ekchain.com/images/stl2.jpg) (http://www.ekchain.com/images/stl3.jpg)


EK Chain Cutting & Riveting Tool

Like EK Chains, this professional-quality tool is made of only the finest materials, Machined from a solid billet of hardened steel, it’s designed for a lifetime of service. The EK Chain Cutting & Riveting Tool can be used to drive out pins when removing old chains, and for connecting your new chain with the included clamping plates. It’s the best way to ensure secure installation of your new EK Chain.

(http://www.ekchain.com/images/tool.jpg)
Title: Re: Chain Breakers
Post by: wrxmy99 on July 28, 2011, 03:29:13 AM
+1 on the angle grinder and EK screw chain link.

2 from 2 with these (old M900 and new HM) and couldn't be happier  [thumbsup]
Title: Re: Chain Breakers
Post by: monstermick58 on July 30, 2011, 02:50:02 AM
Quote from: Rob s on July 28, 2011, 02:43:25 AM
Hey Mick your making me work here [roll]
The last chain i did was for two dogs and i just rivited over the link with a ball pein hammer on an anvil, ie vice. [thumbsup]
Worked a treat.
But for what there worth if you get an ek chain just pay the little extra for a screw link.

http://www.ekchain.com/access.htm (http://www.ekchain.com/access.htm)

You don’t need special tools to install your new EK Chain. This unique, patented link gives a rivet-like fit, using only an 8mm wrench and a pair of pliers. It’s available as an option on many EK Chains.

(http://www.ekchain.com/images/stl1.jpg)  (http://www.ekchain.com/images/stl2.jpg) (http://www.ekchain.com/images/stl3.jpg)


EK Chain Cutting & Riveting Tool

Like EK Chains, this professional-quality tool is made of only the finest materials, Machined from a solid billet of hardened steel, it’s designed for a lifetime of service. The EK Chain Cutting & Riveting Tool can be used to drive out pins when removing old chains, and for connecting your new chain with the included clamping plates. It’s the best way to ensure secure installation of your new EK Chain.

(http://www.ekchain.com/images/tool.jpg)


Rob,

      Will the EK joining link work on any other chain of the same size? And the EK Cutting Riveting tool, how much are they??







                                 Mmick
Title: Re: Chain Breakers
Post by: FIFO on July 31, 2011, 02:19:27 AM
Quote from: monstermick58 on July 30, 2011, 02:50:02 AM

Rob,

      Will the EK joining link work on any other chain of the same size? And the EK Cutting Riveting tool, how much are they??


                                 Mmick

Hey Mick
I can't tell you for sure if the ek screw link would work on another brand, but i can't see any reason why it wouldn't as long as the pin diameter is the same size.
the pitch would be standard.

And there chain breaker looks heavy duty ,best to email the resellers in the US and get a price http://www.ekchain.com/order.htm (http://www.ekchain.com/order.htm)