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Title: Really dumb off-topic car tyre question
Post by: suzyj on August 17, 2011, 11:18:46 PM
First person to make a sexist remark gets my Dr Martens forcefully inserted.  I know this is a dumb question, but looking for answers on the net didn't really get me anywhere.

I got a puncture in one of the tyres on my car recently - it's a wood screw that's gone in through the tread - in one of the drainage channels if that's any use.

It appears to have gone in neatly and not caused any damage - the tyre started going soft so I pulled it off and put the spare on, well before it was completely flat.

It's a really expensive Michelin Pilot tyre - a replacement would be north of $250, and it has heaps of life left.  Is it okay to get one of those puncture repair thingies that you see in automotive shops and use that to fix it, or will it just fail again after a little while?

See if it was bike related, I'd know instantly, but this is only my second ever car puncture, and the first where the tyre wasn't obviously shagged as a result...
Title: Re: Really dumb off-topic car tyre question
Post by: J5 on August 17, 2011, 11:31:16 PM
you could use one of the rubber worm bungs which some say are only for temporary use

thats what i have and do use as i used to get quite a few punctures and have never had one fail same as 'most' people

and quite useful to know how they work for bikes ,

as an added bonus if you have the kit and catch the tyre before it is flat then you get to a servo, insert the bung , air up the tyre and save yourself the pain of changing to the spare

a good decent kit with about 20 bungs will run between $20-$50 , later just buy new bungs

or if you want to do 'the proper way' take it into a tyre place and get them to remove the tyre and put a mushroom style patch in it , prob about $30 or so i imagine

Title: Re: Really dumb off-topic car tyre question
Post by: Buckethead on August 18, 2011, 01:11:21 AM
If it's a clean puncture wound and not a nasty tear that's going to leak air out of the sides, I'd say you're good. Patch and run it.

I've had several similar punctures patched with the "thread-style" kits. The ones that look like a gummed-up pipe cleaner? Yeah. Those. Never had one fail on me, car or bike.
Title: Re: Really dumb off-topic car tyre question
Post by: Yellow Meanie on August 18, 2011, 02:05:24 AM
I punctured one of my Suzuki's tyres the day I had them fitted. Ran over a screwdriver  [bang]

I took it to a servo and they plugged it. Cost me $20. That was nearly 5 years ago and the tyre is still going strong!
Title: Re: Really dumb off-topic car tyre question
Post by: FIFO on August 18, 2011, 03:41:49 AM
J5 pardon the pun has nailed it ;D

The tools supplied with the elcheapo plug kits are a bit average made of soft steel and bend easy.
I  find the plugs that look like rope covered in a glue sticky stuff work well.
I keep that kit on the bike with co2 canisters.

I have a more professional plug kit i carry in the 4by ,and pluged a Tyre 70,000 klm ago and still going strong can't even remember what Tyre it was in [roll]
Recently got a rather nasty puncture in the rear Tyre on the monster a big piece of steel pluged it and still going strong and holding air, did the putty ride on it problem.
Just want to get another 1000klm out of it allready 11000klm on it ;D

I really wish i could think of something witty and sexist to say but now I'm scared ;D

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/TYRE-REPAIR-KIT-PUNCTURE-TIRE-REPAIR-tyre-plugs-/280724048446?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item415c750a3e (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/TYRE-REPAIR-KIT-PUNCTURE-TIRE-REPAIR-tyre-plugs-/280724048446?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item415c750a3e)

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/8PCS-RADIAL-TUBELESS-TIRE-TYRE-PUNCTURE-PLUG-REPAIR-KIT-/290599239084?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item43a9107dac (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/8PCS-RADIAL-TUBELESS-TIRE-TYRE-PUNCTURE-PLUG-REPAIR-KIT-/290599239084?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item43a9107dac)

How To Plug A Tire and Check For Leaks (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=Xq3dDoYRlQg#)


Motorcycle tyre repair - How to plug a bike tire (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdyLRdTRN3M&feature=player_detailpage#)

I have tried the plastic plug not very successfull leaked slowly.
The wikky thingy's are the go.

You tube is your friend ;D :-*



Title: Re: Really dumb off-topic car tyre question
Post by: monstermick58 on August 18, 2011, 06:08:22 AM
Suzy, It would be worth your while to buy a decent kit that contains plugs (little ropey things), File, Plug insert tool, Glue ( we know what that's for, but it also works as a lubricant when you insert the plug) and knife (to cut the plug level with the tyre after the plug has been inserted).

I have used plugs probably in the last 15 years and I haven't had one come back leaking,some people think its a temp but if its done properly it should last for the life of the tyre.




                                    Mmick
Title: Re: Really dumb off-topic car tyre question
Post by: PAUL M on August 18, 2011, 04:54:04 PM
Suzy, have a repair kit at home you can use or just bring the tyre & I'll plug it (wick type)
in Beecroft.

Paul

Title: Re: Really dumb off-topic car tyre question
Post by: suzyj on August 18, 2011, 05:21:47 PM
Thanks a bundle guys for the advise.  I'll drop by an automotive place on Saturday and buy a kit thingy.  Paul, thanks for the offer, but I'm a bit of a tool junkie...

Title: Re: Really dumb off-topic car tyre question
Post by: J5 on August 18, 2011, 10:06:34 PM
the last kit i bought was from supercheap up near the $50 mark iirc

decent kit, decent tools strong enough to get the worms into my 4wd truck rated tyres ( damn hard to get them in )

in a blow moulded case so you dont lose everything

i keep it behind the back seat of the car

I used to get a lot of punctures in the vw caddy(golf) van from pulling up in the gutters outside peoples houses

btw its easier to get the worms in if the tyres is inflated as it stops the tyre from being all squishy , so easy to do this at the servo with one of those automatic inflating air hoses that a lot of servos have now as tey keep pumping air in while mucking around
Title: Re: Really dumb off-topic car tyre question
Post by: monstermick58 on August 19, 2011, 02:34:16 AM
Quote from: J5 on August 18, 2011, 10:06:34 PM
the last kit i bought was from supercheap up near the $50 mark iirc


Who??


Superfuganarsoles                     ;)






                                    Mmick
Title: Re: Really dumb off-topic car tyre question
Post by: tricolore on August 22, 2011, 06:12:01 PM
Great idea to have a kit handy, but I would only worry about using them in a road side emergency situation. If the tyre is off the car take it to your local tyre shop and get the to remove the tyre and patch it from the inside. I just had it done, I took the car in with the slowly deflating tyre on. They removed it, patched the tyre and rebalanced the wheel for $30.00. 15 minutes of my time and I am off again.