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Local Clubs => OZ monsters => Topic started by: Bazz21 on September 30, 2011, 02:12:49 AM

Title: angels
Post by: Bazz21 on September 30, 2011, 02:12:49 AM
anyone ridding on pirelli angels  how do they compare cheers bazz
Title: Re: angels
Post by: dragonworld. on October 01, 2011, 06:26:02 PM
Oh Dear!! I hope they arent named  that way because if you are using them you are closer to the angels??  [roll]  [laugh] [cheeky]
Title: Re: angels
Post by: heatherp on October 01, 2011, 10:20:21 PM
Hi Bazz.
I've had two on the back and still got one on the front.   I prefer them over any other tyre I've tried so far (Bridgestone BT14/15/16, Pilot Road/Power).

Got 9800kms out of the first one and 12500 out of the second but it was down to the 2nd lot of steel bands (those high country roads are really harsh on tyres) Front has 14100kms on it and still going strong.

They are not supposed to be any good in the wet but I have had to ride in torrential rain from the shop after fitting (both times) and didn't have any problems.  They don't seem to go square as rapidly as the bridgestones and they seem to warm up and grip the road whereas the Pilots never did seem to on Victorian roads.
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5189/5660429762_a70706db64.jpg)Pirelli Angel after 12500 (several High Country trips)
Title: Re: angels
Post by: dragonworld. on October 02, 2011, 12:20:36 AM
And the cost compared to the Bridgestones and Pilots??  ;D

Cheezus H, that tyre is close to a disaster scenario!? :o  (Nice shiny chain too!  [roll] )
Title: Re: angels
Post by: heatherp on October 02, 2011, 01:07:42 AM
I have been told that the bands run in the oppopsite direction so don't go any further.  Don't know the truth of it.  It wore down through one layer of metal then a very thin rubber layer then didn't seem to go any further after that.  Wasn't much chop on wet roads tho.

Cost: rear $268 (cheaper than Bridgestone (BT) comparable with Pilot Road 2
front $267 (dearer than a BT14 & Pilot Power but much cheaper than a BT16)
Title: Re: angels
Post by: dragonworld. on October 02, 2011, 01:31:33 AM
I wonder why the fronts are so bloody dear?  ???

The last Pilot front I bought was around the $190 mark! They'd want to be brilliant to be $70 more expensive!?  [roll]
Title: Re: angels
Post by: StephenC on October 02, 2011, 01:59:15 AM
I'm running these, after my Bridgestones.  I've not done enough Km's to wear through the little angels yet so can't comment too much but for my type of ridding (daily commute) the grip seems as good as before, but seems to get grippy quicker.  No issues with wet weather riding.  I think I paid $430 for the pair (and another $100 or so for fitting).
Title: Re: angels
Post by: heatherp on October 02, 2011, 04:09:06 PM
Quote from: dragonworld on October 02, 2011, 01:31:33 AM
I wonder why the fronts are so bloody dear?  ???

The last Pilot front I bought was around the $190 mark! They'd want to be brilliant to be $70 more expensive!?  [roll]

I think that the local chain saw (bike) shop ripped me off on that front tyre.  Don't take that as the standard price.  I'm sure I would have got a better price if I bought them as a set and in the city rather than out here in hicksville.
Title: Re: angels
Post by: dragonworld. on October 02, 2011, 05:57:30 PM
Quote from: heatherp on October 02, 2011, 04:09:06 PM
I think that the local chain saw (bike) shop ripped me off on that front tyre.  Don't take that as the standard price.  I'm sure I would have got a better price if I bought them as a set and in the city rather than out here in hicksville.


Maybe cheaper to buy them online and get 'em fitted??  [thumbsup]

Unless you go to the people that StephenC frequents and pay another $100 on TOP of the tyre prices for fitting!!  :o (I'd be giving them the arse REAL quick!!)
Title: Re: angels
Post by: heatherp on October 02, 2011, 06:43:34 PM
Would a shop be happy fitting tyres that you had purchased elsewhere?

The local bike shop here charges a hefty fee for fitting their own stock.  $70 for one last time I used them.  >:(

I have found I get a good price on tyres and fitting if I get it done as part of a service at Brad's.  [thumbsup]
Title: Re: angels
Post by: StephenC on October 03, 2011, 01:11:44 AM
I don't think I'm up to the task of changing the tyres myself, so am stuck with Frasers. 

I am gathering the tools I will need to remove the rear wheel, but more for things like changing to a CF hugger than changing tyres.  I've sourced a rear-stand, a 46mm socket, a 176Nm range torque wrench and am looking for Shell Retinax HDX 2 grease (I gather this is what Ducati specifies for the nut).  Anything else I need?  Any advice?
Title: Re: angels
Post by: Roaduser on October 03, 2011, 01:53:46 AM
WOW..... i cant believe the prices you guys pay for fitting!! NEVER....

maybe its just sydney has more options or something, but if i buy tyres from a shop i expect them fitted. locally we pay about 450-500 MAX fitted for a set of pilots.

if memory serves the road pilots i got last time cost about 430 fitted.
Title: Re: angels
Post by: dragonworld. on October 03, 2011, 04:38:02 PM
Having a pair of stands to get the bike off the deck and taking the wheels out and giving them to the tyre changer bare generally saves you $$. [thumbsup]

I do this and have not paid fitting in years!!  ;D

There is no excuse for a shop to charge extra if they dont have to remove the wheels from the bike! And generally they wont charge!!

If they do, vote with your feet!  [clap]
Title: Re: angels
Post by: FIFO on October 04, 2011, 12:29:53 AM
Quote from: StephenC on October 03, 2011, 01:11:44 AM
I don't think I'm up to the task of changing the tyres myself, so am stuck with Frasers. 
and am looking for Shell Retinax HDX 2 grease (I gather this is what Ducati specifies for the nut).  Anything else I need?  Any advice?

Shell Retinax HDX 2 grease , Is a heay duty chassi grease. i wouldn't be to fussed on what grease goes on the nut just go to your local auto shop and get multipurpose grease or a better grease with molydium grey looking shit in it or an anti seaze grease stuff,they will know  :D


Quote from: heatherp on October 02, 2011, 06:43:34 PM
Would a shop be happy fitting tyres that you had purchased elsewhere?



Hey Heather i asked my local bike shop about fitting tyers $20 each i supplied the rims only of the bike,  before i ordered the tyres from OS [thumbsup]
They didn't ask were i got them or seem to care. ;)


Title: Re: angels
Post by: Bazz21 on October 04, 2011, 08:21:27 PM
Quote from: heatherp on October 01, 2011, 10:20:21 PM
Hi Bazz.
I've had two on the back and still got one on the front.   I prefer them over any other tyre I've tried so far (Bridgestone BT14/15/16, Pilot Road/Power).

Got 9800kms out of the first one and 12500 out of the second but it was down to the 2nd lot of steel bands (those high country roads are really harsh on tyres) Front has 14100kms on it and still going strong.

They are not supposed to be any good in the wet but I have had to ride in torrential rain from the shop after fitting (both times) and didn't have any problems.  They don't seem to go square as rapidly as the bridgestones and they seem to warm up and grip the road whereas the Pilots never did seem to on Victorian roads.
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5189/5660429762_a70706db64.jpg)Pirelli Angel after 12500 (several High Country trips)
thanks very much heather thats the info i was looking for ,ill be buying on line and as the norm fit them myself , new bike has centre stand nice