I recently picked up an AR-15 and I'm looking for a less restrictive place to shoot it. The public ranges don't allow rapid fire and you have to stay stationary. Any suggestions on a private range? The general rules seem to be: no occupied buildings within 100 yards, solid backstop (hill or something) and can't shoot towards a road.
Thanks for any suggestions.
I want to say any national forest you are allowed to "un-load at will" pending you are a few hundred yard away from a road. key word is national forest.
...or find the local militia compound :)
When i head out to visit friends in rural areas, I go to the public open spaces where the locals normally shoot.
One of the places we go to is right next to the Sheriffs house. [laugh]
Find non-city friends and ask questions.
Quote from: desmoquattro on October 29, 2011, 07:15:26 AM
...or find the local militia compound :)
like in dq's 'hood. just be sure to hit all the tagging punks [evil]
Isn't the city of Oakland a private shooting range?
Can normal californians still pick up an AR-15?? I thought you had to be an owner prior to a particular date and perform a special assault weapon registration within a prior window.
BK
Quote from: BK_856er on October 30, 2011, 09:55:13 PM
Can normal californians still pick up an AR-15??
BK
It has to meet CA requirements. As for an AR or AK with a pistol grip, the magazine release is slightly different requiring a tool to remove the magazine.
I'll look into the public lands idea. Wasn't aware such a thing existed. Thanks.
Nevada. Always the answer to "where can I ________"
Quote from: enzo on October 31, 2011, 07:29:54 PM
Nevada. Always the answer to "where can I ________"
...get arrested and sent to jail for having a single cannabis seed.
Quote from: BK_856er on October 30, 2011, 09:55:13 PM
Can normal californians still pick up an AR-15?? I thought you had to be an owner prior to a particular date and perform a special assault weapon registration within a prior window.
BK
so there was a loophole in the law that allowed removable magazines IF the magazine requires a tool to remove.
so enterprising AR makers came up with the California Button. It's a mag release button that requires a 1/8" dowel inserted to push the button.
some makers modify magazines to have a small dowel (1/4" long) sticking from the side or bottom of the magazines so you can pop out the mag with the next one.
I have a couple of those mags, but they're still cumbersome to use. I was thinking about affixing the dowel to the end of a middle finger glove for faster reloads, but that might be skirting the law a bit too much.
Quote from: sugarcrook on November 01, 2011, 08:46:18 AM
I have a couple of those mags, but they're still cumbersome to use. I was thinking about affixing the dowel to the end of a middle finger glove for faster reloads, but that might be skirting the law a bit too much.
Nope, you would be fine. You can ~anything~ even another 5.56 round projectile for it. Anything is fine.
Quote from: mostrobelle on October 30, 2011, 09:16:19 PM
Isn't the city of Oakland a private shooting range?
No. It's public. [evil]
I know of one. Pack your heat next time you are out this way for a conference.
Thanks for the offer but I wouldn't have anywhere to store it when not shooting. I don't think the Hampton Inn is especially secure. :)
Handguns and assault weapons are highly regulated in California. A little paperback entitled How To Own a Gun and Stay Out of Jail, California edition 2011, outlines a lot of the laws. I read it recently, but I focused mainly on the handgun parts. Lots of necessary information in there. I break a zillion laws on the bike, but I don't want to mess up with firearms. Consequences are too severe. Not implying anyone does not know all they need to - just passing on a good resource. If I could easily own an AR15 I'd be all over it. [thumbsup]
BK
Quote from: BK_856er on January 15, 1970, 10:44:37 PM
If I could easily own an AR15 I'd be all over it. [thumbs]
Google California legal AR15
These guys are in California and make Cali-legal AR15s
http://www.franklinarmory.com/PRODUCTS_NEW.html (http://www.franklinarmory.com/PRODUCTS_NEW.html)
(** they are also a client of my law practice)
So limited to 10 round magazines that require a special tool* to detach?
>sigh<
(The fact that the special tool is a bullet mitigates this somewhat)
Quote from: ducatiz on November 02, 2011, 05:27:58 PM
These guys are in California and make Cali-legal AR15s
http://www.franklinarmory.com/PRODUCTS_NEW.html (http://www.franklinarmory.com/PRODUCTS_NEW.html)
Thanks - I learned something new today. I'll check them out. Need to prepare for the zombie apocalypse.
BK
Quote from: Drunken Monkey on November 03, 2011, 12:22:48 AM
So limited to 10 round magazines that require a special tool* to detach?
>sigh<
(The fact that the special tool is a bullet mitigates this somewhat)
yeah, that's the compromise unless you want an AR with no pistol grip and a traditional rifle butt. the tool can be anything as you point out. 10 rounds. no BetaC drums.
Quote from: BK_856er on November 03, 2011, 12:31:24 AM
Thanks - I learned something new today. I'll check them out. Need to prepare for the zombie apocalypse.
BK
"Now you know, and knowing is half the battle.
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_ecQs8DYHiTY/StkwCLzQaaI/AAAAAAAACu8/pg_rhBt3ktg/s400/knowing-is-half-the-battle.jpg)
Which is why I want to affix the tool to the end of the trigger finger on a pair of shooting gloves for faster mag changes.
Quote from: sugarcrook on November 03, 2011, 09:12:23 AM
Which is why I want to affix the tool to the end of the trigger finger on a pair of shooting gloves for faster mag changes.
just grow a long pinky nail and trim it to fit the hole.
I thought the tool couldn't be attached to the gun or the person (like at the end of a glove). But that is just what I heard from people from the range, so take it for what it's worth.
I'll have to double-check. Thanks.
[laugh]
(http://ar-magmagnet.com/images/MAGMAGNET_656.jpg)
???
Quote from: ducatiz on November 05, 2011, 08:32:30 AM
???
It's just a magnetic tool/button to release the magazine on CA ARs.
(http://ar-magmagnet.com/2.jpg)
I believe it may be illegal if left on though.
This is a good place to check. http://www.calguns.net/ (http://www.calguns.net/)
Down here it's called the desert.
No real issues except for the border patrol telling you that the ILLEGAL immigrants use that canyon to cross so you might not want to shoot there.
I know some of the sportsman clubs will allow it, but not all of them. Call around and see what they allow and if they have any openings for membership.
The one I go to does action pistol competitions so they allow movement, just not sure if you can bring the AR down.
I was totally out of state in this picture.
(http://i.imgur.com/VwQYU.jpg)
Thanks for the info!