just wondering.....
Which model/year monster has the dry clutch? And what are the pros and cons on a dry clutch?
I believe first year m750s, All years of the m900, M1000, MS4, MS4R, MS4RS
They sound wonderful
Con: A dry clutch wears out quicker than a wet clutch.
Quote from: ODrides on June 22, 2008, 07:49:36 AM
Con: A dry clutch wears out quicker than a wet clutch.
Pro:
Loud clutches save lives!
Muscovy nailed it w/the dry clutch models..
-It's basically just something that's usually reserved for track-use that only Ducati decided to run on the street..
-The sound is infectious, they look cool when modded, and they confuse the ever-living HELL out of everyone who doesn't know what it is!! ;D
I don't think the 750 has ever had a dry clutch...............
So what if us S2R junkies wanted to upgrade? I'm pretty pleased with the slipper as it is but do rather enjoy the open sound, not to mention the looks you get from that "goofy cage thing" on the side of your bike. Though I haven't looked into pricing, is along the same lines as 6xx owners wanting to chuck a single sided swing arm on their bike in that it's more logical just to get a new bike? I tend to ride fairly hard at times in the twisties, just wondering, same as saltlick, if the cons outweigh the pros.
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In regards to the Dry clutch being loud.. I learned from the tech and from just looking at how it works/buying a new clutch, that it is loud ONLY if your basket and plates are VERY worn out. A new dry basket and plates fit almost perfectly together and therefore there is almost no clank clank clank form the plates and basket hitting each other..
so.. LOUD clutch= worn basket or not properly set up clutch.
just my .00000000001 cents
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2167/2544451957_a56da4a02e.jpg?v=0)
If I'm not wrong I believe this is Duckstew's 97' M750 with the dry clutch. It is the year that had the very well hung :o belt covers. Talk about a manly bike ;D
i also believe that that bike was converted to dry clutch, cuz that presure plate is the wet clutch PP. and yes the clutches do get louder over time, mine is really loud, but it still works
Quote from: knightrider on June 22, 2008, 03:19:25 PM
mine is really loud, but it still works
+1.. I posted in "tech" a while ago about how I was trying to see if my plates might be slipping a bit. This inevitably involved wheelies (dumping/slipping the clutch), but everything seemed fine despite the LOUD "klacklacklacklacklack"... and "chachachachahca" when disengaged..
Quote from: Jarvicious on June 22, 2008, 12:15:28 PM
So what if us S2R junkies wanted to upgrade? I'm pretty pleased with the slipper as it is but do rather enjoy the open sound, not to mention the looks you get from that "goofy cage thing" on the side of your bike. Though I haven't looked into pricing, is along the same lines as 6xx owners wanting to chuck a single sided swing arm on their bike in that it's more logical just to get a new bike? I tend to ride fairly hard at times in the twisties, just wondering, same as saltlick, if the cons outweigh the pros.
People have converted wet to dry, but it's expensive. The single swing arm conversion that some a couple folks have done is a lot easier. The swinger conversion, is basically bolt on. The wet to dry conversion requires custom modifications.
Dry clutches are very easy to work on, since it's all right there for you. A new plate pack on mine took me 15 minutes to do. The same job on a wet bike's a couple hours.
Quote from: MuscovyDuc on June 22, 2008, 12:43:15 PM
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2167/2544451957_a56da4a02e.jpg?v=0)
If I'm not wrong I believe this is Duckstew's 97' M750 with the dry clutch. It is the year that had the very well hung :o belt covers. Talk about a manly bike ;D
This was converted to dry. It began life as a wet clutch.
basically the dry clutches are supposed to transfer power through them more efficiently, however this difference may only be appreciated at a track.
they are easier to change at the track, thus the reason pros use dry clutches.
and they sound and look really cool with open covers.
ducati does it bc its "their thing" that is why you seem them on street bikes.
Quote from: julianista on June 22, 2008, 12:35:27 PM
In regards to the Dry clutch being loud.. I learned from the tech and from just looking at how it works/buying a new clutch, that it is loud ONLY if your basket and plates are VERY worn out. A new dry basket and plates fit almost perfectly together and therefore there is almost no clank clank clank form the plates and basket hitting each other..
so.. LOUD clutch= worn basket or not properly set up clutch.
True, but the plate tabs and baskets wear pretty quickly. It doesn't take long for a clutch to be out of spec. and loud, despite it still functioning very well.
don't forget about the 848 dry clutch conversion ;D
http://youtube.com/watch?v=uhYnAeKiTq4
I've seen that vid.. It is hilarious... ;D ;D ;D ;D
Quote from: julianista on June 22, 2008, 12:35:27 PM
In regards to the Dry clutch being loud.. I learned from the tech and from just looking at how it works/buying a new clutch, that it is loud ONLY if your basket and plates are VERY worn out. A new dry basket and plates fit almost perfectly together and therefore there is almost no clank clank clank form the plates and basket hitting each other..
so.. LOUD clutch= worn basket or not properly set up clutch.
just my .00000000001 cents
My clutch was loud from the factory. Yes, they get louder as they wear, but unless you have aftermarket basket and plates, it's never going to be "quiet"...
I put an OEM Basket and the Barnett plates. They fit snug.. but I am still to hear it myself since my bike is at the shop. I am hoping really that it will be a LOT quieter than the worn out clutch I had.. but I don't want it to be quiet.. i want to hear it is there.. chiki chaka chiki chaka .. that's a weird illustration for sound isn't it.. [laugh]
well from what you posted, i think anything is better than the clutch you had before, that one had too many pieces. it wont be too loud to start, but will gradually get louder, also if you have the stock cover installed or an aftermarket cover will make a difference too.
Quote from: knightrider on June 22, 2008, 11:04:00 PM
well from what you posted, i think anything is better than the clutch you had before,
YOu are right my friend! That clutch was a topic for whole other thread with pics and drama involved.. haha.. [moto]
The lightweight baskets used on later bikes are quieter. So are the aftermarket lightweight ones.
The dry clutch also has the advantage of not dumping friction material into your engines oil supply and allows you to run any kind of oil without affecting the clutch.
advantage: it's just F-n cool
disadvantage: people constantly telling you something is wrongwith your bike. Although it's not really a disadvantage it just shows their lack of knowledge.