hello all!
We are joining the board to offer help, and to ultimately sponsor the board (as a minor sponsor) when able to afford this.
Name: Frequently posting here will be Jason, Josh, Milli, Patrick or Pierre - that's like 3.75 people (i better not say which ones aren't full people yet or get in trouble)!
Location: We are spread across the ocean - from Nashville, Franklin, and Columbia TN, in USA and Volpiano (Torino), Italy.
Bike(s): We have several Ducati, Honda Hornet, and Yamaha R1. We would like to obtain Ducati 1199 Panigale in short time!
How long you've been riding: This is difficult to describe because Milli is very new at riding, Pierre has a scooter (we tease), but the rest of us begin riding at early years.
Anything else you'd like to share: New Monster Owners and Old Monster Owners must hold hands and sing together! They should be proud to have something worth disagreeing about! Also, for new years in Italy, we wear red underwear for good luck, while Jason and Joshua ate bad peas, ha ha
Ima special too!
welcome
what do you have?
woooooooooooooooooooooooooo [drool]
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Welcome guys [thumbsup]
I already have the Model 4 - modified to go on my Monster soon.
I'm thinking that more than one of you must be 3/4 people ;D or else you wouldn't spend your whole week creating beauitiful products like this...
I remember stopintime's triples! Hot stuff for sure.
They've got riders in different continents with their parts (and abooot time too). (I think scooter riders are all, at best, 2/3 peoples).
Yes, there is much more to put on the site, but for now we are revising design slightly, and would like to begin board sponsorship of this web forum.
at long last my demands are satisfied! (i'm bringing over the senna movie this weekend perhaps)
i still gotta buy some gauges for my hybrid top triple set up.
Please post pictures when you are done - are you still using the small steel bending brackets to mount the dials? I think you should simply send us measurements and we will produce a bracket machined from aluminum and anodized to match, so you won't have to use the steel pieces! You call them ladybug or something, but that did not turn up any items on Google...
i have the mod 4 hybrid triple set up too, like j v. and i would love some brackets for the guages!! im still running my bent steel tangs that i did for the test fit when i brought the triples. only thing is what angle would you run the guages at? id need them quite flat for my setup.
your website has improved since i last looked.. are they handlebar riser mounts on the mod 5?
You can do something like this to keep the gauges.
NOT as deep as this though - machine shop cut half of the material in a critical place. They paid the cost of another triple on which they only made the holes level, to accommodate the U-bracket.
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Steering lock piece added...
(http://i329.photobucket.com/albums/l394/stopintime/Model4003.jpg)
Thank you for compliments on improvements to the website!
I am calling the version of MOD4 upper triple clamp which has central post bar riser mounts "MOD5", as we are referring to all triple clamps as "Models" with numbers to differentiate.
For examples:
JV has MOD1H4 - it is MOD1 based, with MOD4-hybrid top plate.
stopintime has MOD2H4 - it is MOD2 based, with MOD4-hybrid top plate.
MOD4 top plate does not feature any riser mount holes. MOD5 top plate does feature Hypermotard type bar riser mounts (we are working on attractive and affordable riser design to compliment this top plate and future top plates for monsters). Here is the MOD5 type upper triple, essentially the MOD4 upper triple variation for conventional handlebars:
(http://imaspecialparts.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/modello4_22.jpg)
On non-hybrid versions of the top plates (MOD4 or MOD5), there will be a machined area at base of triple for damper bracket - like on Ducati and Honda SBK fitment. All MOD4 and MOD5 have tapped holes to mount reservoirs or custom-gauges, or even ignition key pawls on some japanese motorcycles. We can make those special brackets by request.
below is a picture of the tapped holes on the bottom side of a MOD4 (not hybrid) top plate:
(http://imaspecialparts.com/images/mod4-upper-underside.jpg)
Also, we are currently in machining of Monster-specific upper triple versions, similar to MOD4 and MOD5, with accommodations for Monster 2002+ gauges and ignition lock, and Monster 696/796/1100 gauges and ignition lock (both clipons-only version, like MOD4 and handlebar-riser possibility similar to MOD5). The current MOD2 for Monsters and ST will be retired when stock is depleted. All new parts will be 7075 ERGAL now - like our MOD4/MOD5 line (in the past we have used 6082 ANTICORODAL, which is superior to 6061, but not as robust as 7075 ERGAL... buying in enormous quantities at the factory for automobile parts and motorcycle parts made this possible, cost-wise)
For MOD4, we receive some customization requests - for example, need for clipons for track or show (with clean appearance), but also perhaps riser configuration for comfort or different look. We have produced captured plugs to fit from underside of the longitudinal grooves in the MOD4 upper triple, allowing conventional handlebar risers (our "S" spacing - 38mm for either 22mm handlebar OR 29mm conical/variable-section bar). Here is the alternative bar riser possibility I am trying to describe:
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Quote from: Roaduser on January 15, 2012, 10:21:53 PM
i have the mod 4 hybrid triple set up too, like j v. and i would love some brackets for the guages!! im still running my bent steel tangs that i did for the test fit when i brought the triples. only thing is what angle would you run the guages at? id need them quite flat for my setup.
your website has improved since i last looked.. are they handlebar riser mounts on the mod 5?
Please send me pictures of your setup! We would love to see it and with your permission, add it to our gallery page (which is next to be refined on the website, for now it is very rudimentary)
stopintime,
this is a very attractive bracket you have for the steering lock. We wanted to make something like this for the MOD4, but as it is designed for track and race primarily, we will have trouble with correct location when offset is adjusted over the 6mm range. For this reason, we have decided to develop the MOD2evo design, which will have the steering key-pawl lock, and gauge mounts, but will not be adjustable offset.
It is unusual for many street-riders to desire the adjustable offset, or the requirements for custom gauges or headlight brackets (fitting a complete MOD4 upper and lower to a Monster using a special steering stem, and removal of steering stops that protrude beneath frame neck - similarly required for economy framed Ducati Superbikes {748E, 749D, 848}) Monster owners are the unusual and most special in the view of IMA Special Parts! we very much like the ducati monster owners clubs because they frequently do make such modifications to their bike - and this is done worldwide! Not only in Europe, or Japan, or USA or Australia! For this reason, we do not make only template-based, catalog items - each owner is unique - each owner has personal aesthetic and abilities.
I think, after much consideration and suggestions from our North American offices, we have convinced Patrick and Marcello to release limited 'special colors' for customers. In the past we have done Black, Clear and Gold anodizing, but since then Gold has become less popular and requests for the "Titanium-Gray" color have become very common. We may produce small quantity releases of items in other colors, like green or red, for items like the hexagonal top nut on MOD4 and MOD5 top triple set ups. This allows a touch of personality. Also, with future productions, we may leave some common parts unanodized for custom-color fulfillment by customer's request (for blue, gold, red, or green triple clamp kits).
"JV" has requested the damper clamps be available in black also, since he fitted 53mm superbike diameter forks to the Monster and needed to replace the 54mm Ohlins clamp from the SD-154 kit. We think this may be a common request, since Ohlins does not produce their item in black at all, and the dealer cost for their plain clear anodized bracket is more than double the retail price of our clear bracket!
If you have any suggestions, please email us! (for website use, or for useful parts, we want to serve everyone very well)
Soon to come to website will be related-items functionality, but more important still: content! We have compiled track drawings of major north american trackday circuits, rules for many racing series, and how-to explanations for adapting various front end components to other bikes. A popular request is to have the MOD4 top triple with fork spacing at 215mm, rather than 205mm. This is the "wide track" spacing, such as on Ducati Corse and Yamaha superbikes. It is coupled with spacers behind rotors on wheel to spread them from center slightly, and this provides better cooling and easier front wheel installation with the brake calipers.
My Model 4 challenges were the top triple height (U-bracket mounting - I still need to cut the U-bracket top and shave off some of the wind screen mounting 'ears') and the missing steering lock.
My specific requirements make the Model 4 unsuitable, but it's possible to modify, so why not...
The steering lock bracket has to be secured with some serious locktite or maybe even welded on. I'd hate for the bolts to unscrew while riding.
The way I modified the triple isn't very good as an example to follow. It's making the triple slightly weaker and it takes work on the U-bracket too.
I hope there will be plug & play options for Model 4 Monster applications, but I understand that it will be difficult. My reasons for buying it was my need to lower the fork a little (compared to my SpeedyMoto triple) and of course the bling factor.
Quote from: stopintime on January 16, 2012, 02:04:35 PM
My Model 4 challenges were the top triple height (U-bracket mounting - I still need to cut the U-bracket top and shave off some of the wind screen mounting 'ears') and the missing steering lock.
My specific requirements make the Model 4 unsuitable, but it's possible to modify, so why not...
The steering lock bracket has to be secured with some serious locktite or maybe even welded on. I'd hate for the bolts to unscrew while riding.
The way I modified the triple isn't very good as an example to follow. It's making the triple slightly weaker and it takes work on the U-bracket too.
I hope there will be plug & play options for Model 4 Monster applications, but I understand that it will be difficult. My reasons for buying it was my need to lower the fork a little (compared to my SpeedyMoto triple) and of course the bling factor.
Yes, the MOD2evo is more like you might look for - it is to be released very soon. It features a very attractive look, while retaining gauge mounting, u-bracket, and steering lock. It will even have the clean top profile of the MOD4 in many ways, it will only not feature adjustable offset (but we have ways of making MOD4 work for people who must have such a feature!)
My Model 4 has a non-adjustable round hole for the steering stem - isn't that a regular Model 4 version?
Model 2evo sounds perfect, but if it doesn't require modification...... where's the fun? ;D
Quote from: stopintime on January 16, 2012, 06:17:07 PM
My Model 4 has a non-adjustable round hole for the steering stem - isn't that a regular Model 4 version?
Model 2evo sounds perfect, but if it doesn't require modification...... where's the fun? ;D
That is a Hybrid MOD4 setup for MOD2 and OEM lowers, very common for installation on non-adjustable angle Superbikes (848, 748E, 749D), Radical frames, and Monsters 02+. The Hybrid MOD4 setup on JV's is for MOD1 and OEM type lowers, on 93-01 Monsters, the 851-888 (very few people want to modify these original superbikes though) and the Ducati Supersport!
ahh, so in your speak I'm mod2h4... i have the regular mod 4 top by the looks of it with the damper bracket, identical to the picture above but round holed. Am i able to try the steering lock bracket with this? is it available in black to match?
the only minor issue i had with fitment, and still remains, is the top triple doesn't go over the steering stem nut easily. i loosly threaded the nut on and tried to slip the top triple over, with a palm tap [bang] , and it marked my nut! haha
it seems to be off center by about a mm. it was no biggie, i just had to loosen the lower triples fork clamps and put forward pressure on the top triple. but just letting you know.
ill try to remember to take some decent pics for you when i wash it next. It gets plenty of attention these days! and many ppl ask "who is IMA?"
oh and the only wish i have, is that i could have used a bottom triple styled like the mod 4 instead of mod 2, theyre just sooo sexy!!
Ahh, then you will be excited to see the MOD2evo lower in the near future!
For installation, how did you support the lower? If you are supporting the lower triple from the fork bottoms, there can be some flex at the bearing area, making alignment more difficult - seeming like an overly tight fit - supporting from beneath steering stem may alleviate your issue all together! If for some reason your item was unacceptably tight toleranced, we could always fix it for you
I hang my bike from an engine hoist with straps around the chassis, no pressure on the trees other than gravity. it was a while ago that i fitted this so its not something i would return to you guys now. Its not a big issue or something i cant get around, reason for posting was purely for feedback.
sounds like the 2evo is more stylized than the mod2... 8) ill keep an eye out but I'm not likely to buy another new lower triple just for aesthetics. the mod 2 is still good
Yes, we are updating style and materials since we are running out of existing stock - yesterday we sold last 53mm MOD1 lower (we still have some MOD1 in OEM 54mm and in Ohlins SBK 56mm on the shelves, I think). Here is a brief MOD1-2 product line history: The original MOD2 upper was based on the profile of the MOD1, as this enabled owners to affix the original 98-99 type fairing where brackets attach to upper triple-clamp pinch bolts. The MOD1 has the contour of the OEM top triple so that all original items can be installed - this includes the fairing brackets as mentioned above, the turn signal brackets, the original handlebar risers for a 22mm handlebar, the brake-line manifold, gauges, etc. We call this original model the "MOD1-N", as later requests for wider riser-mount spacing to accommodate variable-section handlebars as featured on the MOD2, necessitated a second MOD1 upper - the "MOD1-S", which uses the "S" to indicate the spacing. We also received so many requests for the offset of the MOD1 to be the same as the later generation Monsters, to give it the 'easy-steering' feeling accompanying those models after 2002.
So presently, there are 3 items in the lineup
MOD1-N
MOD1-S
MOD2-S (but really it is just "MOD2", but the "S" indicates the riser spacing and which of our riser and riser-spacer lineup fit!)
All are 30mm offset, and the lower triple is very similar on the MOD1 and MOD2, but clearly the stem must be different!
The new design will retain the very popular 30mm offset (fixed), but will have interchangeable floating stems - along the same lines as our MOD4/5 lineup - an industry accepted way of staking the lower by pinch bolts and 'ledges' (also used on Attack Performance, AMS Racing, and Nichols MFG triple clamps). This simplifies and streamlines things on the back-end for us, as the lowers for the MOD1 and MOD2 will be essentially identical, and the upper triples will be available in two versions - both with lightening grooves and some of the technology of our MOD4 upper triple - one version will have the bar riser mount holes (and we will have bar risers to go with this, of course!), and the other upper triple will be further lightened and have no mount-holes for risers - to be used with clipons only!
Most exciting is a method for installing gauges, which does not clutter the look of the upper triple for those who choose to run no gauges (like at the track), or custom gauges. I'm am excited to reveal the final manufacture, but it is not yet ready - and drawings and prototypes and unfinished aluminum is not as exciting as you might think... Also, I think I have mentioned it before, the new parts will be all 7075 - so every item we make is 7075 - nothing else! (OK, the bearings and seals are not... and the bolts are stainless steel or titanium, but that does not count)