Motorcycle Safety - Protective gear in action (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOMcFEC4cBA&feature=fvwrel#)
A highside demo with full gear.... [popcorn]
who wants to be the person who has to demo that...not me looks uncomfortable
Quote from: phishhead1 on April 17, 2012, 06:05:09 PM
who wants to be the person who has to demo that...not me looks uncomfortable
"So, we think this new safety gear is pretty good. Go wreck that bike."
"Like, on purpose?"
Quote from: zarn02 on April 17, 2012, 06:56:30 PM
"So, we think this new safety gear is pretty good. Go wreck that bike."
"Like, on purpose?"
me... are you out of your make the beast with two backsin mind
Good example why you should wear leather. He couldn't have been going all that fast and look how much that jacket was shredding. Seam on the back also look like it blew open.
Yep that jacket was pretty thrashed even at low speed. - But it did appear to be preventing rash - didn't see any flashes of white skin go by.
Probably some stunt man... they do crazier shit. But man that looks painful in slow-mo.
Quote from: DonJuanDucati on April 17, 2012, 08:46:17 PM
Good example why you should wear leather. He couldn't have been going all that fast and look how much that jacket was shredding. Seam on the back also look like it blew open.
i have to completely disagree with this statement. The jacket shreds because thats how the fabric dissipates the energy. and the seam ripping is not about it being textile or leather, it has more to do with the nature of the pavement. there are pros and cons to both. and they are pretty big pros and pretty big cons.
1) leather is more durable, but textile can still be just as safe. the downside is textile is pretty much one time use. both materials will tear at the seams. it isn't the material being too weak, its the pavement being too grabby. at a slow speed, both leather and textile can rip at the seam since the material is grabing the pavement instead of sliding along.
2) textile is much lighter. if you are a comutter you can really appreciate how light a textile can be.
3) you get more weather resistance from textile. ever get caught in the rain with leather? it isnt fun feeling a trillion pounds heavier, unable to move, and by the time you get home the leather has shrunk and you need to call your neighbor to get it off you.
4) textile tends to be more multi seasoned where leather only works in the mild seasons.
so with that said, i have both textile, leather and mesh. i hardly wear the leather to be honest. the only time i wear it is for sport riding, everything else is textile.
look at it this way the commercial shows that having some gear is probably going to help you as opposed to nothing.
as others have said textile is probably a 1 time use (maybe not the best financially) but then again if it works that one time to prevent some broken bones or massive road rash and skin grafts, then i personally would have no problem paying for the $1000 or more for the gear to prevent that nasty skin graft.
granted they didn't do it with a comparison of a guy in a tshirt and shorts only, but then again i don't think they could convince a sane person to do that willingly to show you what the difference in damage is.
Quote from: He Man on April 19, 2012, 03:37:08 PM
3) you get more weather resistance from textile. ever get caught in the rain with leather? it isnt fun feeling a trillion pounds heavier, unable to move, and by the time you get home the leather has shrunk and you need to call your neighbor to get it off you.
Don't forget that the leather dye will bleed a little and stain your skin. AMHIK...
Leather Pants !! I got a nice pair of Dainese and I feel like the Road Warrior when I wear them but I only wear it on longer rides e.g. over 50 miles. If I'm riding in my hood I just wear jeans (obviously not safe). If I'm riding into the city on the highway I do Kevlar jeans although I dont know how much the Kevlar would really help. I'd wear leather 24/7 if it were up to me but its not the most comfortable and people do tend to stare when you're eating at the local burger joint in leather pants. My wife thinks I look ridiculous in the leather pants, I think I look cool in them. I figure what the hell does she know she didnt want me to get a bike to begin with. Theres only two ways you can get away with wearing black leather pants: being a rock star or riding a motorcycle I think that says it all. Riding my bike definitely makes me feel like a rock star and it doesnt matter who's around. Up top I either wear Textile or Leather and always rock the helmet and gloves.
Interesting to note I had a 60 km/hr slide flat on my back after completing a textbook somersault over the make the beast with two backsing car that turned in front of me and I was wearing textile pants and leather jacket. The leather jacket wore through on the back of the shoulders and elbows but I suffered no rash because of the armour and lining but the pants didn't wear through but I suffered friction burns to my butt and calves! All in all pretty lucky bar my shoes being removed from my feet during the launch sequence presumably from the fairing or bars......not sure bout that one.
My helmet never hit the ground which was pretty amazing and gloves faired pretty well also!
All this less then 3 miles from home!
All gear all the time!
Quote from: He Man on April 19, 2012, 03:37:08 PM
1) leather is more durable, but textile can still be just as safe. the downside is textile is pretty much one time use. both materials will tear at the seams. it isn't the material being too weak, its the pavement being too grabby. at a slow speed, both leather and textile can rip at the seam since the material is grabing the pavement instead of sliding along.
Come on he man. If textile were "just as safe" then we'd see in on the track worn by pros with unlimited gear budget. Textile has its merits, but to say in general it's equal to leather is an overstatement.
I think the advantage about leather in the pros is that it accomplishes the same safety with less material (read: less weight and wind resistance). Functionally, I would agree they are similar but textile comes at the cost of some bulk.
Elbow,butt,ankle were the first things to hit.The material wasn't as important as the armor in that crash. (low speed)
A fellows humble admittance of why ATGATT is a good idea
- Warning - an F-bomb or two in the audio and some low level of blood from a low (20-25mph) speed high-side during a parking lot test run after some maintenance work
The Effects of My Motorcycle Crash Without Gear (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFD9az2eAv0#)
So you can see that even 'going slow' one bad move resulted in a rather painful set of injuries. Nothing that wouldn't heal, but it sure looks painful. And all would have been prevented with gear.