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Title: Advice for buying a kayak
Post by: IZ on April 23, 2012, 06:46:06 PM
Looking for a sit-on-top kayak and checking into several brands.  I've only been a handful of times.  

The main use..on town lake near downtown Austin (no boats allowed).  I would also use it in the larger Lake Travis (there are boats and jetskis).  It may also get some river use.  Quite possibly get to use it in FL and on Lake Michigan.

I was checking into SUP's but I can do that on a few of the more pricey kayak models I'm looking at.

Any kayakers want to chime in with their favorites and/or fill me in on the brands I'm looking at?

Thanks

1. Jackson Kayak "Cuda" 14' (Black widow, Urban Camo or yellow jacket) $1100 - most expensive

http://jacksonkayak.com/jk-kayaks/kayak-fishing/cuda/ (http://jacksonkayak.com/jk-kayaks/kayak-fishing/cuda/)

http://jacksonkayak.com/jk-kayaks/kayak-fishing/cuda/colors/ (http://jacksonkayak.com/jk-kayaks/kayak-fishing/cuda/colors/)


2. Wilderness "Tarpon"  100 or the 130T-12' or 14' $699-$849 (plus, REI coupon if I wait until the next 20% sale)

http://www.rei.com/product/785482/wilderness-systems-tarpon-100-sit-on-top-kayak (http://www.rei.com/product/785482/wilderness-systems-tarpon-100-sit-on-top-kayak)

3. Perception two-up kayak..checking into this because I like the option of taking a passenger but it also allows for just one person to maneuver it.


 
Title: Re: Advice for buying a kayak
Post by: kopfjäger on April 23, 2012, 06:50:07 PM
Sea Kayak, brands are a personal choice.
Title: Re: Advice for buying a kayak
Post by: IZ on April 23, 2012, 07:14:09 PM
Quote from: kraptaker on April 23, 2012, 06:50:07 PM
Sea Kayak, brands are a personal choice.

Do you own one Krapper?

I searched "sea kayak" and came up with mostly sit-in models.   I want a sit on top. 
Title: Re: Advice for buying a kayak
Post by: kopfjäger on April 23, 2012, 07:16:59 PM
Quote from: IZ on April 23, 2012, 07:14:09 PM
Do you own one Krapper?

I searched "sea kayak" and came up with mostly sit-in models.   I want a sit on top. 

My bad, I didn't see that. The sea kayaks are great because you can store gear for multiple day trips and are nice out on a big lake, but you are looking for sometnig different.
Title: Re: Advice for buying a kayak
Post by: Randimus Maximus on April 23, 2012, 07:25:00 PM
Buy one that doesn't leak.
Title: Re: Advice for buying a kayak
Post by: WarrenJ on April 23, 2012, 08:36:16 PM
(http://i838.photobucket.com/albums/zz306/LooseCannon_10/DSC_4147.jpg)

The Wilderness Systems Tarpon has a real good reputation among kayak fishermen on the Great Lakes and offshore.  Its rotomolded - made like a garbage can - not as light as a kevlar or other composite boat but they are carefree and can take a vast amount of punishment.  

I have a 12' Pungo by Wilderness Systems and a 138 Loon from Old Town.  I have had them over 10 years and have paddled probably a couple thousand miles in them.  I like the material of the Old Towns better than the Wilderness System boats as it has built in flotation  (crosslink-3)  The WS boats use foam or compartments for flotation.  The Old Town material floats enough that extra flotation is not needed.  

I like the carefree features of the rotomolded kayaks instead of having a composite boat that you are worried about every little scratch and bump.  I hunt and fish out of my boats and have used them pretty hard for over a decade and they are still going strong.  There is no denying that the composite boats are faster and lighter, but for how I use mine, I prefer the rotomolded boats.  Tougher and cheaper.  Thats not saying that I wouldn't take a 17' composite sea kayak if someone gave me one!

I'd like to get a 14' Tarpon for larger water fishing and longer distance paddling.  Its probably one of the best values for a hard use sit on top.  The hull design is more like a sea kayak than my Loon, which is pretty wide and has a very large open cockpit.  It works real well for fishing rods, decoys, bowfishing equipment and 100 lbs of bleeding slimy carp piled ontop of my legs.  I've done plenty of 10 mile paddles in the Loon, the 14' Tarpon would probably be a rocket in comparison.

Since we bought the kayaks, I sold the canoe and the 14" Motorboat hasn't been in the water since.  I found that once I started motorcycling several years ago, it took the place of paddling.  I am making a point of paddling at least one night a week this season.  I can be in the water in about 5 minutes from the time I decide to go so its pretty convenient.
Title: Re: Advice for buying a kayak
Post by: WarrenJ on April 23, 2012, 09:29:42 PM
Generally - The longer the boat, the straighter they track and the faster they are, the shorter the boat, the quicker they turn.  Don't get wound up about getting a rudder.  I have never felt the need for one in all the miles I've paddled.  If I had a sea kayak and was doing long open water crossings in rough windy conditions, a rudder might be nice, but it really isn't a necessity.  In most paddling situations, a rudder is just a crutch for poor paddling technique.

The tarpon can haul a lot of gear using drybags.  They have a couple large storage depressions in the deck with tie downs and elastic cords.  A lot of divers use the Tarpon also.  The rear depression holds tanks and gear just fine.  The sit on tops are a lot easier to get in and out of than the sit ins and are usually self bailing if you get in some big waves.  I have never used a sit on top but I am considering getting a 14 or a 16' tarpon if one pops up used at a good price.

The sit on tops are a wetter ride than the sit ins so clothing choice is a bit more critical also.

Title: Re: Advice for buying a kayak
Post by: IZ on April 23, 2012, 09:34:26 PM
Quote from: Randimus Maximus on April 23, 2012, 07:25:00 PM
Buy one that doesn't leak.

>:(





Warren..good info.  Thanks!   [thumbsup] 
Title: Re: Advice for buying a kayak
Post by: NAKID on April 23, 2012, 10:14:42 PM
Quote from: Randimus Maximus on April 23, 2012, 07:25:00 PM
Buy one that doesn't leak.

Just wondering how long it'll be before he picks up the first nail...
Title: Re: Advice for buying a kayak
Post by: IZ on April 23, 2012, 10:22:43 PM
Quote from: NAKID on April 23, 2012, 10:14:42 PM
Just wondering how long it'll be before he picks up the first nail...

It took roughly 4 months to get a nail in the new SUV!  [cheeky]
Title: Re: Advice for buying a kayak
Post by: kopfjäger on April 23, 2012, 10:28:00 PM
Quote from: IZ on April 23, 2012, 10:22:43 PM
It took roughly 4 months to get a nail in the new SUV!  [cheeky]

Somebody call Guinness  :D
Title: Re: Advice for buying a kayak
Post by: brimo on April 24, 2012, 01:32:50 AM

Don't go cheap on the paddle either and ensure you get the right length.
Title: Re: Advice for buying a kayak
Post by: WarrenJ on April 24, 2012, 06:34:15 AM
Quote from: brimo on April 24, 2012, 01:32:50 AM
Don't go cheap on the paddle either and ensure you get the right length.

Absolutely Right!
Title: Re: Advice for buying a kayak
Post by: IZ on April 24, 2012, 06:46:24 AM
Planning on $150-200.  I know there are some carbon fiber paddles going for a lot more
Title: Re: Advice for buying a kayak
Post by: lethe on April 24, 2012, 06:51:25 AM
this looks about the right size and price!

http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_SPM6859781402P?sid=IDx20101019x00001a&ci_src=14110944&ci_sku=SPM6048163107 (http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_SPM6859781402P?sid=IDx20101019x00001a&ci_src=14110944&ci_sku=SPM6048163107)

Title: Re: Advice for buying a kayak
Post by: Le Pirate on April 24, 2012, 08:29:09 AM
Quote from: brimo on April 24, 2012, 01:32:50 AM
Don't go cheap on the paddle either and ensure you get the right length.

+1


I'm no professional by any means...but I almost feel like a good paddle is more important than the boat. Probably totally wrong there, but you can REALLY feel the difference between a good paddle and a crap paddle.



edit: forgot to add...we have two of the sit on top Sea Kayak brand kayaks. We keep them down at the weekend place on the Frio. They're pretty durable, but probably not what I would want for what you plan on doing. Plus...they weight a TON. The good thing about them is you'll let anyone take them down the river and bash them into rocks, as we've yet to break one.

My old man has some sort of Hobie Kayak that has cool flipper things that you can paddle with your feet, so he can fish with his hands, but I can't remember what it's called at the moment....
Title: Re: Advice for buying a kayak
Post by: IZ on April 24, 2012, 03:23:27 PM
Thanks for info Le P.

Saw a Perception 12' Sport for $599 today.  On sale from $799. Any experience with these?  It was all set up for fishing.

Lethe.. You're a douche!   [cheeky]
Title: Re: Advice for buying a kayak
Post by: IZ on April 28, 2012, 04:47:50 PM
Went down to San Marcos today to try out a handful of kayaks.

Wilderness Tarpon 100, 120, 140

Jackson Cuda and the Cusa an the Riviera.

And a few others.

I think the Wilderness 120 would be perfect.

Although, the guy also told me that he had a few canoes that were only about 35 lbs.  So half the weight and ability to carry 1-3 people.. I may start check these out too!

BTW..If you haven't been there, San Marcos is a cool little place!!
Title: Re: Advice for buying a kayak
Post by: rgramjet on April 28, 2012, 06:33:24 PM
Quote from: WarrenJ on April 23, 2012, 08:36:16 PM
(http://i838.photobucket.com/albums/zz306/LooseCannon_10/DSC_4147.jpg)

The Wilderness Systems Tarpon has a real good reputation among kayak fishermen on the Great Lakes and offshore.  Its rotomolded - made like a garbage can - not as light as a kevlar or other composite boat but they are carefree and can take a vast amount of punishment. 

I have a 12' Pungo by Wilderness Systems and a 138 Loon from Old Town.  I have had them over 10 years and have paddled probably a couple thousand miles in them.  I like the material of the Old Towns better than the Wilderness System boats as it has built in flotation  (crosslink-3)  The WS boats use foam or compartments for flotation.  The Old Town material floats enough that extra flotation is not needed. 

I like the carefree features of the rotomolded kayaks instead of having a composite boat that you are worried about every little scratch and bump.  I hunt and fish out of my boats and have used them pretty hard for over a decade and they are still going strong.  There is no denying that the composite boats are faster and lighter, but for how I use mine, I prefer the rotomolded boats.  Tougher and cheaper.  Thats not saying that I wouldn't take a 17' composite sea kayak if someone gave me one!

I'd like to get a 14' Tarpon for larger water fishing and longer distance paddling.  Its probably one of the best values for a hard use sit on top.  The hull design is more like a sea kayak than my Loon, which is pretty wide and has a very large open cockpit.  It works real well for fishing rods, decoys, bowfishing equipment and 100 lbs of bleeding slimy carp piled ontop of my legs.  I've done plenty of 10 mile paddles in the Loon, the 14' Tarpon would probably be a rocket in comparison.

Since we bought the kayaks, I sold the canoe and the 14" Motorboat hasn't been in the water since.  I found that once I started motorcycling several years ago, it took the place of paddling.  I am making a point of paddling at least one night a week this season.  I can be in the water in about 5 minutes from the time I decide to go so its pretty convenient.

So what do you do with all that Carp?  Fertilizer or home made Gefilte fish?
Title: Re: Advice for buying a kayak
Post by: WarrenJ on April 28, 2012, 07:42:41 PM
I filleted them down, cut as much of the mud line out as possible and pressure cooked them to pieces.  Then I made them into patties with bread crumbs, spices, etc.  They still tasted like carp.

The best recipe I have heard of for carp is planked carp.  You nail a carp to a clean cedar plank, put it on the roof for 3 weeks, throw away what is left of the carp and eat the plank.  They are pretty good smoked, but I don't know if I want my smoker smelling like carp when I smoke other things in there. 
Title: Re: Advice for buying a kayak
Post by: rgramjet on April 28, 2012, 08:05:17 PM
what do you do with the patties? grill?  Pan fry? Bake?
Title: Re: Advice for buying a kayak
Post by: WarrenJ on April 28, 2012, 08:32:51 PM
pan fry
Title: Re: Advice for buying a kayak
Post by: YellowDuck on May 03, 2012, 08:20:25 AM
IZ - I have this: http://www.gandermountain.com/modperl/product/details.cgi?pdesc=Pelican-Castaway-116-Fishing-Kayak&i=432312&aID=505P1A&merchID=4006 (http://www.gandermountain.com/modperl/product/details.cgi?pdesc=Pelican-Castaway-116-Fishing-Kayak&i=432312&aID=505P1A&merchID=4006)

It has been very good, I fish and free dive out of it. It can carry a lot of gear, dry storage in front and bulk in the back. Tracks staight and is easy to manage.
Title: Re: Advice for buying a kayak
Post by: Scooter Montgomery on May 03, 2012, 10:09:04 AM
Quote from: IZ on April 28, 2012, 04:47:50 PM

Although, the guy also told me that he had a few canoes that were only about 35 lbs.  So half the weight and ability to carry 1-3 people.. I may start check these out too!


I wanted a kayak for a while, then thought about a canoe. I picked up a Old Town Camper 15, only used a couple times off craigslist for $450 (list is $1550), with paddles, seats and wheels. Its 57 lbs but easy enough for me to carry by myself. Its need to be able to take someone with you if you want.
Title: Re: Advice for buying a kayak
Post by: IZ on May 05, 2012, 11:07:00 AM
My dad just picked up 2 Pelicans for the lakes back up in MI.

Scoot..good deal. Ive been checking out Canoes but I think ive narrowed down the kayaks to the Wilderness Tarpon 120 or the Necky Vector 13.

Basically..speed vs comfort.
Title: Re: Advice for buying a kayak
Post by: Scooter Montgomery on May 07, 2012, 09:40:50 AM
Before I bought my canoe the kayak I was most interested in was the Tarpon 140.  [thumbsup]

Title: Re: Advice for buying a kayak
Post by: Le Pirate on May 08, 2012, 06:40:58 AM
I was checking out the Wilderness site



I am now HIGHLY interested in the Wilderness Tsunami




Damn you IZ  >:( ;D
Title: Re: Advice for buying a kayak
Post by: IZ on May 08, 2012, 07:41:28 AM
140 is an option too.

I'll have to check on the Tsunami LeP.

Btw.. When you coming down to Austin again?
Title: Re: Advice for buying a kayak
Post by: Le Pirate on May 08, 2012, 09:58:03 AM
Quote from: IZ on May 08, 2012, 07:41:28 AM
140 is an option too.

I'll have to check on the Tsunami LeP.

Btw.. When you coming down to Austin again?

The Tsunami is a sit in, rather than a sit on top like your looking for. I've been thinking of doing some multi day kayak trips, and it'd fit the bill  [thumbsup]

I'm in and out of Austin every now and then...but generally on short notice (as in...hey can you drive go to San Marcos and pick something up today---short notice).

I'm sure we'll be down there this summer some though...to visit the in-laws. I'll let you know.

Also...I'll be stuck down there the first week of July for about 5 days...doing work stuff.
Title: Re: Advice for buying a kayak
Post by: rgramjet on May 08, 2012, 12:28:01 PM
Have you looked at the Field And Stream SOT.  Sold through Dicks Sports for early $500s.  That in conjuntion with a Sports Authority 20% off coupon could make for a sweet deal!   
Title: Re: Advice for buying a kayak
Post by: IZ on May 08, 2012, 01:08:54 PM
Quote from: rgramjet on May 08, 2012, 12:28:01 PM
Have you looked at the Field And Stream SOT.  Sold through Dicks Sports for early $500s.  That in conjuntion with a Sports Authority 20% off coupon could make for a sweet deal!   

I saw that a few weeks ago. It's in urban camo too. Don't know how they hold up though?  Will look up reviews.
Title: Re: Advice for buying a kayak
Post by: rgramjet on May 16, 2012, 11:37:40 AM
Dicks has the eagle Talon SOT for sale.  $399!  Down from $549.
Title: Re: Advice for buying a kayak
Post by: IZ on May 16, 2012, 04:57:21 PM
Good price but REI is having huge sale on kayaks/SUPs and gear. 

Buying Wilderness Systems Ride 115 this Friday get a Free paddle.  Thule hull-a-port pro to haul it around.  Don't like how REI only sells one color though in Kayaks, PFDs, etc.   [thumbsdown]

NRS and other gear 15% off.
Title: Re: Advice for buying a kayak
Post by: rgramjet on May 16, 2012, 06:12:05 PM
The Ride 115 is The Awesome! 
Title: Re: Advice for buying a kayak
Post by: IZ on May 18, 2012, 09:00:18 AM
Quote from: rgramjet on May 16, 2012, 06:12:05 PM
The Ride 115 is The Awesome! 


Preserved this morning. $900 for the 115 plus free paddle. 225 paddle. The person at kayak store said I would want a 240 for this kayak since it is 33" wide. Not sure how much difference the 15 will make? 

Thought about changing my mind to The Wilderness Tarpon 100 since it is $100 off.  Any thought on a 10'?
Title: Re: Advice for buying a kayak
Post by: WarrenJ on May 18, 2012, 10:11:51 AM
The shorter they are, the worse they track.
Title: Re: Advice for buying a kayak
Post by: DRKWNG on May 18, 2012, 05:35:57 PM
American Express Commercial Kayaking (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ehFYAkC7CJs#)

Quote from: WarrenJ on May 18, 2012, 10:11:51 AM
The shorter they are, the worse they track.

He knows this already. 

;D
Title: Re: Advice for buying a kayak
Post by: IZ on May 18, 2012, 05:40:38 PM
Quote from: WarrenJ on May 18, 2012, 10:11:51 AM
The shorter they are, the worse they track.

Right..got that about the kayak but how much difference with the paddle length??
Title: Re: Advice for buying a kayak
Post by: kopfjäger on May 18, 2012, 05:53:10 PM
Quote from: IZ on May 18, 2012, 05:40:38 PM
Right..got that about the kayak but how much difference with the paddle length??

The length of the paddle doesn't matter, it's how you use it.
Title: Re: Advice for buying a kayak
Post by: IZ on May 18, 2012, 05:55:51 PM
Quote from: headjäger on May 18, 2012, 05:53:10 PM
The length of the paddle doesn't matter, it's how you use it.

Is that what they told you K?
Title: Re: Advice for buying a kayak
Post by: WarrenJ on May 18, 2012, 06:18:41 PM
The shorter the distance from your shoulders to the water and the wider the kayak is, the longer the paddle you will need or you will be bumping your knuckles on the gunwales, trying to get your paddles engaged properly into the water.  It can also cause more fatigue if you have to keep your paddle lifted higher constantly to get the power you want.  If you can, find a way to try a couple different lengths in a boat about the width you are looking at.  A higher seat, or cushion can help to.  Kayaks are very sensitive to slight changes in center of gravity - especially higher.  The bigger you are, the more this affects things.  I know with my big ass in the boat, a half inch pad on the seat makes it feel noticeably different. 
Title: Re: Advice for buying a kayak
Post by: kopfjäger on May 18, 2012, 06:23:23 PM
Quote from: IZ on May 18, 2012, 05:55:51 PM
Is that what they told you K?

;)
Title: Re: Advice for buying a kayak
Post by: IZ on May 19, 2012, 12:47:37 PM
Quote from: WarrenJ on May 18, 2012, 06:18:41 PM
The shorter the distance from your shoulders to the water and the wider the kayak is, the longer the paddle you will need or you will be bumping your knuckles on the gunwales, trying to get your paddles engaged properly into the water.  It can also cause more fatigue if you have to keep your paddle lifted higher constantly to get the power you want.  If you can, find a way to try a couple different lengths in a boat about the width you are looking at.  A higher seat, or cushion can help to.  Kayaks are very sensitive to slight changes in center of gravity - especially higher.  The bigger you are, the more this affects things.  I know with my big ass in the boat, a half inch pad on the seat makes it feel noticeably different. 

Thanks W!



What's up with the new name Kupcake?!  [cheeky]


Drkwing..that Aziz iz hilarious!!
Title: Re: Advice for buying a kayak
Post by: IZ on May 19, 2012, 07:55:22 PM
 :o

Kayaking off waterfall in WA.   180+'

Tyler Bradt Highest waterfall in a kayak 189ft (World Record bigger than Niagara!) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNXh9gXDd2Y#)

Not anytime soon..especially not in a SOT kayak
Title: Re: Advice for buying a kayak
Post by: IZ on May 20, 2012, 09:17:01 PM
Just installed the Malone kayak hauler.  Anyone else use these? 

(http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa14/akido10/Malonekayakcarrier.jpg)
Title: Re: Advice for buying a kayak
Post by: sugarcrook on May 20, 2012, 10:23:32 PM
Congrats!

But it would be more masculine without the baby seat.  ;D
Title: Re: Advice for buying a kayak
Post by: IZ on May 20, 2012, 10:38:28 PM
No.  It would be more masculine if it were a Jeep!! [cheeky]

Gotta get my boy out there too and can't put him up top with the kayak just yet.
Title: Re: Advice for buying a kayak
Post by: rgramjet on May 21, 2012, 04:08:05 AM
Quote from: IZ on May 20, 2012, 09:17:01 PM
Just installed the Malone kayak hauler.  Anyone else use these? 

(http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa14/akido10/Malonekayakcarrier.jpg)

Um, is that thing going to clear the door?




;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Advice for buying a kayak
Post by: IZ on May 21, 2012, 04:52:52 AM
Quote from: rgramjet on May 21, 2012, 04:08:05 AM
Um, is that thing going to clear the door?

;D ;D ;D

Of course.  [roll]

It's not like I'm just some hot, Asian chick attempting to install a bike chain.  [cheeky]
Title: Re: Advice for buying a kayak
Post by: derby on May 21, 2012, 04:56:53 AM
Quote from: IZ on May 21, 2012, 04:52:52 AM
Of course.  [roll]


yes, but will it clear the door with the kayak mounted?

;D
Title: Re: Advice for buying a kayak
Post by: IZ on May 21, 2012, 05:04:32 AM
I've already removed the garage door opener from the vehicle to prevent that hazard.
Title: Re: Advice for buying a kayak
Post by: derby on May 21, 2012, 08:15:51 AM
Quote from: IZ on May 21, 2012, 05:04:32 AM
I've already removed the garage door opener from the vehicle to prevent that hazard.

;D
Title: Re: Advice for buying a kayak
Post by: triangleforge on May 21, 2012, 09:17:42 AM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/310052_10150815092881283_145722011282_10101822_640418618_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Advice for buying a kayak
Post by: Scooter Montgomery on May 21, 2012, 09:40:12 AM
Quote from: IZ on May 20, 2012, 09:17:01 PM
Just installed the Malone kayak hauler.  Anyone else use these? 

(http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa14/akido10/Malonekayakcarrier.jpg)

I didn't know Wonder Woman had a kayak too.  [cheeky]
Title: Re: Advice for buying a kayak
Post by: rgramjet on May 21, 2012, 12:52:23 PM
Quote from: IZ on May 21, 2012, 05:04:32 AM
I've already removed the garage door opener from the vehicle to prevent that hazard.


[popcorn] [popcorn] [popcorn]
Title: Re: Advice for buying a kayak
Post by: DRKWNG on May 21, 2012, 02:53:44 PM
Quote from: IZ on May 21, 2012, 04:52:52 AM
It's not like I'm just some hot, Asian chick attempting to install a bike chain.  [cheeky]

No need to drag Ash into this... 
Title: Re: Advice for buying a kayak
Post by: IZ on May 24, 2012, 10:12:32 PM
Quote from: DRKWNG on May 21, 2012, 02:53:44 PM
No need to drag Ash into this...  

Speaking of..where is that sexy lil beast?!   ;D




Received REI email..Ride 115 arrives in Austin tomorrow.  Perfect timing for Memorial Day weekend!!  

Also..www.backcountry.com (http://www.backcountry.com) package arrived today containing 2 NRS lifejackets  :D

The "CVest" in Blue/black and the "Clearwater" in grey/black.  I was just going to keep the one I liked the most (which is the CVest) but I'm going to keep the grey to as an homage to the ole' titanium 620.  RIP  

If anyone is in the market for a highback PFD, these things are pretty damn comfy!!  Not as much at the  Kokatat fishing vest/PFD (they add some extra padding in the lower back mesh area) but they're close to it!

Clearwater  http://www.active.com/gear-store/nrs/nrs-clearwater-mesh-back-life-jacket-pfd/ (http://www.active.com/gear-store/nrs/nrs-clearwater-mesh-back-life-jacket-pfd/)

CVest http://www.backcountry.com/nrs-cvest-type-iii-pfd (http://www.backcountry.com/nrs-cvest-type-iii-pfd)

(http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa14/akido10/NRSCVestandClearwater.jpg)

(http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa14/akido10/NRSCVest.jpg)





Title: Re: Advice for buying a kayak
Post by: IZ on May 27, 2012, 10:14:36 PM
Maiden voyage this PM with the Frenchie

(http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa14/akido10/ReadyforthemaidenvoyageonLakeAustin.jpg)

(http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa14/akido10/RelaxingonLakeAustin.jpg)

(http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa14/akido10/EmmainthenewRIDE.jpg)
Title: Re: Advice for buying a kayak
Post by: derby on May 28, 2012, 04:43:10 AM
Quote from: IZ on May 27, 2012, 10:14:36 PM
Maiden voyage this PM with the Frenchie

(http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa14/akido10/RelaxingonLakeAustin.jpg)


2nd building from the right is my office building. i see "floaters" every day from my window.

i was wondering when you were going to get this thing out and put in in the water.

[thumbsup]
Title: Re: Advice for buying a kayak
Post by: IZ on May 28, 2012, 10:05:52 PM
Quote from: derby on May 28, 2012, 04:43:10 AM
2nd building from the right is my office building. i see "floaters" every day from my window.

i was wondering when you were going to get this thing out and put in in the water.

[thumbsup]

Cool!  I know the one.  How's that going?

Let me know if you want to get out there on the water.  It was packed this weekend.  No Southern Cal but it has a lot views.   ;)
Title: Re: Advice for buying a kayak
Post by: RAT900 on May 29, 2012, 02:24:28 AM
I dare you to go shark or tuna fishing in that thing  ;D  (the kayak not the family wagon, I have FHE that most cars do not float well)
Title: Re: Advice for buying a kayak
Post by: herm on May 29, 2012, 04:31:31 AM
Quote from: IZ on April 23, 2012, 06:46:06 PM
Looking for a sit-on-top kayak and checking into several brands.  I've only been a handful of times. 

The main use..on town lake near downtown Austin (no boats allowed).  I would also use it in the larger Lake Travis (there are boats and jetskis).  It may also get some river use.  Quite possibly get to use it in FL and on Lake Michigan.

I was checking into SUP's but I can do that on a few of the more pricey kayak models I'm looking at.

Any kayakers want to chime in with their favorites and/or fill me in on the brands I'm looking at?

Thanks

1. Jackson Kayak "Cuda" 14' (Black widow, Urban Camo or yellow jacket) $1100 - most expensive

http://jacksonkayak.com/jk-kayaks/kayak-fishing/cuda/ (http://jacksonkayak.com/jk-kayaks/kayak-fishing/cuda/)

http://jacksonkayak.com/jk-kayaks/kayak-fishing/cuda/colors/ (http://jacksonkayak.com/jk-kayaks/kayak-fishing/cuda/colors/)


2. Wilderness "Tarpon"  100 or the 130T-12' or 14' $699-$849 (plus, REI coupon if I wait until the next 20% sale)

http://www.rei.com/product/785482/wilderness-systems-tarpon-100-sit-on-top-kayak (http://www.rei.com/product/785482/wilderness-systems-tarpon-100-sit-on-top-kayak)

3. Perception two-up kayak..checking into this because I like the option of taking a passenger but it also allows for just one person to maneuver it.


 

make sure it comes with a bilge plug...
Title: Re: Advice for buying a kayak
Post by: Ducatamount on May 29, 2012, 04:53:08 AM
Quote from: IZ on May 27, 2012, 10:14:36 PM
Maiden voyage this PM with the Frenchie

(http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa14/akido10/ReadyforthemaidenvoyageonLakeAustin.jpg)

(http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa14/akido10/RelaxingonLakeAustin.jpg)

(http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa14/akido10/EmmainthenewRIDE.jpg)
Great pics with the dog.
By "floaters" do you mean dead bodies? That's what we used to call them when I was helping build the Charles River Dam in Charlestown Ma.
Title: Re: Advice for buying a kayak
Post by: derby on May 29, 2012, 04:55:31 AM
Quote from: Ducatamount on May 29, 2012, 04:53:08 AM
By "floaters" do you mean dead bodies? That's what we used to call them when I was helping build the Charles River Dam in Charlestown Ma.

no dead bodies... yet.  ;D
Title: Re: Advice for buying a kayak
Post by: IZ on May 30, 2012, 09:42:05 PM
Quote from: RAT900 on May 29, 2012, 02:24:28 AM
I dare you to go shark or tuna fishing in that thing  ;D 

Not me but there are a few youtube clips. 
Title: Re: Advice for buying a kayak
Post by: RAT900 on May 31, 2012, 12:24:26 AM
Quote from: IZ on May 30, 2012, 09:42:05 PM
Not me but there are a few youtube clips. 

avoid purchasing a kayak that has its hull painted like the underside of a sea-turtle
Title: Re: Advice for buying a kayak
Post by: triangleforge on May 31, 2012, 08:56:08 AM
Quote from: RAT900 on May 31, 2012, 12:24:26 AM
avoid purchasing a kayak that has its hull painted like the underside of a sea-turtle

Or a surfer.
Title: Re: Advice for buying a kayak
Post by: derby on May 31, 2012, 11:14:01 AM
Quote from: triangleforge on May 31, 2012, 08:56:08 AM
Or a surfer.

sharks attack surfers cause they look like sea lions or turtles from below.
Title: Re: Advice for buying a kayak
Post by: triangleforge on May 31, 2012, 12:07:25 PM
Yup. One of the more terrifying bits of film I've ever seen was in a PBS documentary that focused on Great Whites preying on sea lions off California - a shark researcher mounted a camera pointing straight down through a hole in a surfboard, hooked it to a hefty offshore fishing rod and dragged it back and forth across a strait where lots of sea lions had become lunch. The image of a mouth full of teeth emerging fast out of black depths still gives me the willies, even to the point where I found myself getting freaked-out goosebumps whenever I was out in a kayak on deep water ... on Lake Tahoe!   [laugh]
Title: Re: Advice for buying a kayak
Post by: IZ on May 31, 2012, 12:23:30 PM
I hear you on that triangle!!  [cheeky]

By the way..YouTube clip with seal jumping on guys kayak for a ride. If that ever happens and I'm on the ocean, I'll be freaking out!!
Title: Re: Advice for buying a kayak
Post by: RAT900 on May 31, 2012, 01:03:52 PM
Quote from: triangleforge on May 31, 2012, 12:07:25 PM
Yup. One of the more terrifying bits of film I've ever seen was in a PBS documentary that focused on Great Whites preying on sea lions off California - a shark researcher mounted a camera pointing straight down through a hole in a surfboard, hooked it to a hefty offshore fishing rod and dragged it back and forth across a strait where lots of sea lions had become lunch. The image of a mouth full of teeth emerging fast out of black depths still gives me the willies, even to the point where I found myself getting freaked-out goosebumps whenever I was out in a kayak on deep water ... on Lake Tahoe!   [laugh]


just think about there being a big-ass predatory catfish that'll suck your leg off at the hip   ;D
Title: Re: Advice for buying a kayak
Post by: lethe on May 31, 2012, 01:06:03 PM
Quote from: RAT900 on May 31, 2012, 01:03:52 PM

just think about there being a big-ass predatory catfish that'll suck your leg off at the hip   ;D
hmmm, is it wrong to eat an animal that ate a part of you first before you killed it?
Title: Re: Advice for buying a kayak
Post by: MikeZ on June 01, 2012, 04:31:28 AM
Quote from: lethe on May 31, 2012, 01:06:03 PM
hmmm, is it wrong to eat an animal that ate a part of you first before you killed it?
Don't they call that Karma?
Title: Re: Advice for buying a kayak
Post by: rgramjet on June 01, 2012, 09:57:42 AM
I ate an animal that jumped out on front of my truck and make the beast with two backsed up the front light.......does that count?
Title: Re: Advice for buying a kayak
Post by: rgramjet on June 01, 2012, 09:59:46 AM
Quote from: RAT900 on May 31, 2012, 01:03:52 PM

just think about there being a big-ass predatory catfish that'll suck your leg off at the hip   ;D

Catfish shmatfish.  Theres gators in them there waters!!
Title: Re: Advice for buying a kayak
Post by: RAT900 on June 01, 2012, 11:33:17 PM
there's gators in Lake Tahoe?
Title: Re: Advice for buying a kayak
Post by: IZ on June 02, 2012, 05:20:21 AM
gator found last year up in MidMichigan
Title: Re: Advice for buying a kayak
Post by: RAT900 on June 02, 2012, 11:20:15 PM
well add this puppy to the list of freshwater fun things to consider when skinnydipping

http://animal.discovery.com/fish/river-monsters/giant-snakehead/ (http://animal.discovery.com/fish/river-monsters/giant-snakehead/)
Title: Re: Advice for buying a kayak
Post by: IZ on June 03, 2012, 10:56:59 PM
Freaked mom out today as I talked about River Monster while we were in Town Lake.   [evil]

Dad was in town for my son's bday and helped make a kayak hauler and do a few other things around the house.  

[thumbsup]

This thing works great!  $30 for parts and roughly 3 hours to make.  

(http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa14/akido10/homemadekayakhauler.jpg)

(http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa14/akido10/kayakhaulerworks.jpg)

(http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa14/akido10/makingspace.jpg)

(http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa14/akido10/newride115inTownLakeAustin.jpg)

Beautiful day to be on the lake this morning.  The Ride 115 easily held my mom and I.

BTW..anyone have these straps to hold your kayak in place?