At least in California....
When contemplating removal of those garish frame stickers strewn all about your Monster's lovely trellis-work, know one thing (two actually):
A) They are designed to self-destruct upon removal, &
B) You cannot sell your bike (at least in California) without them, with less than 7500 miles.
This information came from my local dealer last weekend at my 600-mile service. If true (& I'm assuming it is), then this is info that needs to be more widely known.
Point (A) can be overcome with blue painter's tape, a lot of heat, some tweezers and a LOT of care. Then clean-up with WD40.
Point (B) can be neutralized by carefully planning strategic locations on the framework under the seat for the liberated stickers.
I accomplished this last weekend, but was keenly aware of the of the looming potential for disaster, so be advised!
oh, california... you're so silly...
while the stickers are intended to be tamper-proof, I found that if you take your time and move them when the bike is brand new, they come off quite easily, and in one piece :)
You sure?
I sold my 696 with the stickers removed and under 4000 miles. DMV does not require an inspection when selling a motorcycle...
Now buying/selling a bike out of state might be a different matter but
I have yet to read anything on the removal of frame stickers.
If the information the sticker contained was so important, they would stamp the info into frame, such as the vin. Stickers come off due to a variety of reasons, and DMV couldn't expect them to be permanent...
Maybe it's necessary for a dealership selling a brand new vehicle, but not private party.
Quote from: DoWorkSon on May 01, 2012, 09:44:58 AM
You sure?
I sold my 696 with the stickers removed and under 4000 miles. DMV does not require an inspection when selling a motorcycle...
No, I'm not sure. My dealer just mentioned it when I told him about my plan. Your experience, I think, is more valid. So maybe there's not a big worry after all, which is nice. [thumbsup]
Oops.
Quote from: teddy037.3 on May 01, 2012, 09:03:08 AM
oh, california... you're so silly...
while the stickers are intended to be tamper-proof, I found that if you take your time and move them when the bike is brand new, they come off quite easily, and in one piece :)
+1 I did put mine under the seat. Thank God I did. When I totaled the bike at the track, I needed 2 places on the bike to verify the vin for a salvage title. Indiana law
I tried to reconstruct mine on a piece of paper. Hopefully that will be good enough shall I need it.
I was able to remove mine completely and in one piece, and place them on a piece of paper as well.
However, now that I think of it... I'm not sure where that piece of paper is ;D
They are removable.
heat them up with a hair dryer. peel slowly.
I remounted mine under the seat.
Quote from: corey on May 01, 2012, 02:13:42 PM
I was able to remove mine completely and in one piece, and place them on a piece of paper as well.
However, now that I think of it... I'm not sure where that piece of paper is ;D
Someplace safe... ;D
Quote from: El-Twin on May 01, 2012, 08:25:06 AM
A) They are designed to self-destruct
Like a 'tape' after Mr Phelps finished listening to it? ;)
Quote from: kraptaker on May 01, 2012, 02:31:49 PM
Like a 'tape' after Mr Phelps finished listening to it? ;)
Very much like that, only with less smoke. :)
Quote from: ducatiz on May 01, 2012, 02:17:51 PM
They are removable.
heat them up with a hair dryer. peel slowly.
I remounted mine under the seat.
Thats where my removed and intact frame stickers are too [thumbsup]
I peeled mine off in little pieces and threw them away. Here's hoping I don't need them! [laugh]
Take your time and even after years, they will come off...
On the note of the dealer...it pisses the poor tech off when he is attempting to pull the vin from the steer tube when we are trying to replace your gas tank under warranty!
Quote from: ungeheuer on May 01, 2012, 03:52:43 PM
Thats where my removed and intact frame stickers are too [thumbsup]
Same here. I removed mine on a 100 degree day after the bike had been sitting in the sun. The glue was very pliable.
Quote from: SteveO. on May 01, 2012, 05:52:53 PM
I peeled mine off in little pieces and threw them away. Here's hoping I don't need them! [laugh]
Hahahaha, same here....oh well [roll]
i read somewhere if you put some painters tape over top the sticker, then use a box cutter to trim to about same size you can slowly peel it off with the painters tape helping to keep it all in one piece. then you can easily place it on something else (under seat).
Quote from: imthestig on May 02, 2012, 07:38:53 PM
i read somewhere if you put some painters tape over top the sticker, then use a box cutter to trim to about same size you can slowly peel it off with the painters tape helping to keep it all in one piece. then you can easily place it on something else (under seat).
what are you cutting?
best method is to heat it. there is nothing to cut.
Quote from: imthestig on May 02, 2012, 07:38:53 PM
i read somewhere if you put some painters tape over top the sticker, then use a box cutter to trim to about same size you can slowly peel it off with the painters tape helping to keep it all in one piece. then you can easily place it on something else (under seat).
The process is simple, but the execution demands great care (at least for me):
1. Gather materials: 1 roll of blue painter's tape, a ruler or tape measure, pencil, scissors, tweezers and hair drier.
2. Measure the dimensions of the sticker to be liberated. Some stickers will require 2 overlapping tapes to be wide enough.
3. Draw outline of sticker on painter's tape and cut.
4. Carefully place tape on sticker, making sure the edges are covered and tape is tightly & smoothly pressed on.
5. Apply copious amounts of heat. If you think it's hot enough, apply a little more.
6. Choose a convenient corner to work from and carefully start to peel with tweezers.
7. Once enough edge is exposed, grab with both hands and peel. Keep applying heat as necessary.
8. Once liberated, transfer to new real estate under seat.
9. Clean-up excess glue on frame with WD40.
Good luck!
I just peeled it off when it was hot. no tape. the adhesive came with it. wiped off the spot with a little goof off and then wd40 to remove the adhesive left.
put it under the seat. i guess you can use the painters tape to ensure it is safe, but i used nothing.
Quote from: ducatiz on May 03, 2012, 07:07:12 AM
I just peeled it off when it was hot. no tape. the adhesive came with it. wiped off the spot with a little goof off and then wd40 to remove the adhesive left.
put it under the seat. i guess you can use the painters tape to ensure it is safe, but i used nothing.
Your specimens were more compliant. Mine started to self-destruct at the edges even with the tape. Your milage may vary on this.