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Title: Declassified Bin Laden documents
Post by: MendoDave on May 03, 2012, 08:12:49 AM
http://www.ctc.usma.edu/posts/letters-from-abbottabad-bin-ladin-sidelined (http://www.ctc.usma.edu/posts/letters-from-abbottabad-bin-ladin-sidelined)


[Taken from the document guide Me:]

Description of the Abbottabad Documents Provided to the CTC

"This document provides a general description of the 17 declassified documents captured in the Abbottabad raid and released to the Combating Terrorism Center (CTC).  For additional context please see the documents themselves and/or the CTC’s report “Letters from Abbottabad: Bin Ladin Sidelined?” released in conjunction with this summary. 

The 17 documents consist of electronic letters or draft letters, totaling 175 pages in the original Arabic and 197 pages in the English translation. The earliest letter is dated September 2006 and the latest April 2011. These internal al-Qa`ida communications were authored by several  leaders, including Usama bin Ladin, `Atiyya `Abd al-Rahman, Abu Yahya al-Libi and the American Adam Gadahn, as well as several unknown individuals who were either affiliated with the group or wrote to offer it advice. Other recognizable personalities who feature in the letters either as authors, recipients or points of conversation include Mukhtar Abu al-Zubayr, leader of the Somali militant group Harakat al-Shabab al-Mujahidin; Nasir al-Wuhayshi (Abu Basir), leader of the Yemen-based al-Qa`ida in the Arabian Peninsula (AQAP); Anwar al-`Awlaqi; and Hakimullah Mahsud, leader of Tehrik-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP). Some of the letters are incomplete and/or are missing their dates, and not all of the letters explicitly attribute their author(s) and/or indicate to whom they are addressed. Given that they are all electronic documents either saved on thumb drives, memory cards or the hard drive of Bin Ladin’s computer, except for the letters addressed to Bin Ladin, it cannot be ascertained whether any of these letters actually reached their intended destinations. "

Title: Re: Declassified Bin Laden documents
Post by: ducpainter on May 03, 2012, 08:34:36 AM
 [popcorn]
Title: Re: Declassified Bin Laden documents
Post by: teddy037.3 on May 03, 2012, 08:59:19 AM
Quote from: ducpainter on May 03, 2012, 08:34:36 AM
[popcorn]

not even bothering to lurk this out, eh?  ;)
Title: Re: Declassified Bin Laden documents
Post by: Buckethead on May 03, 2012, 09:12:47 AM
Just from the synopsis on the linked page, this should be an interesting read when I have the time for it.

Quote from: teddy037.3 on May 03, 2012, 08:59:19 AM
not even bothering to lurk this out, eh?  ;)

[laugh]

But I'm right there with him.

This could get interesting for just a little bit, right before it gets locked.

  [popcorn]
Title: Re: Declassified Bin Laden documents
Post by: MendoDave on May 03, 2012, 09:21:28 AM
I have to admit that I started reading these and got bored and then distracted by the "Power of Orange thread" and the "OMG times 10 to the 7th power" thread.

And what do I care Bin laden is as dead as (http://www.legalnewsline.com/content/img/f211391/hitler.jpg)
Title: Re: Declassified Bin Laden documents
Post by: brimo on May 03, 2012, 04:02:46 PM
One really needs to read these in the original Arabic to get the correct slant, the english translations (as does happen quite often) reflect the prejudices of the translator. But then again, Arabic is not my strongest language, so it could be my preconceived ideas influencing my take on the letters. Also, why were these particular letters released? There was a substantial number of documents kept back.
Title: Re: Declassified Bin Laden documents
Post by: RAT900 on May 03, 2012, 04:18:59 PM
I have yet to meet a crusading fundamentalist axe-grinder of ANY stripe (pick your cause/religion)

who wasn't tediously dreary and humorless

you may now lock the thread if you wish  ;D
Title: Re: Declassified Bin Laden documents
Post by: spolic on May 03, 2012, 04:43:25 PM
Hitler is alive, in Brazil...living with Elvis.
Title: Re: Declassified Bin Laden documents
Post by: Drjones on May 03, 2012, 06:22:47 PM
Quote from: brimo on May 03, 2012, 04:02:46 PM
One really needs to read these in the original Arabic to get the correct slant, the english translations (as does happen quite often) reflect the prejudices of the translator. But then again, Arabic is not my strongest language, so it could be my preconceived ideas influencing my take on the letters. Also, why were these particular letters released? There was a substantial number of documents kept back.

They were detailing Osama's amature polygamist pron escapades.






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