I hope the new front tire help Stoner claw his way back
FP1 was wet...let's hope it stays that way.
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/100374 (http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/100374)
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Pos Rider Team/Bike Time Gap
1. Valentino Rossi Ducati 2m19.328s
2. Nicky Hayden Ducati 2m19.405s + 0.077s
3. Andrea Dovizioso Tech 3 Yamaha 2m20.127s + 0.799s
4. Casey Stoner Honda 2m20.321s + 0.993s
5. Cal Crutchlow Tech 3 Yamaha 2m21.263s + 1.935s
6. Stefan Bradl LCR Honda 2m21.917s + 2.589s
7. Dani Pedrosa Honda 2m22.713s + 3.385s
8. Jorge Lorenzo Yamaha 2m23.174s + 3.846s
9. Alvaro Bautista Gresini Honda 2m23.326s + 3.998s
10. Hector Barbera Pramac Ducati 2m24.150s + 4.822s
11. Ben Spies Yamaha 2m24.214s + 4.886s
12. Randy de Puniet Aspar Aprilia 2m24.360s + 5.032s
13. Mattia Pasini Speed Master Aprilia 2m24.390s + 5.062s
14. Danilo Petrucci Ioda-Aprilia 2m25.012s + 5.684s
15. Michele Pirro Gresini FTR-Honda 2m25.051s + 5.723s
16. Aleix Espargaro Aspar Aprilia 2m25.065s + 5.737s
17. James Ellison Paul Bird Aprilia 2m25.150s + 5.822s
18. Yonny Hernandez Avintia FTR-Kawasaki 2m25.298s + 5.970s
19. Ivan Silva Avintia Inmotec-Kawasaki 2m28.615s + 9.287s
20. Colin Edwards Forward Suter-BMW 2m31.468s + 12.140s
QuoteThe Ducati rider had led the field during the first half of the session as the weather conditions restricted riders from dipping below the 2m23s bracket.
But as the light rain eased and eventually stopped in the final 10 minutes, times improved by around four seconds. That allowed Rossi to knock his team-mate Nicky Hayden off the top spot by 0.077 seconds with a time of 2m19.328s.
Quote from: The Don on June 14, 2012, 05:35:32 PM
I hope the new front tire help Stoner claw his way back
[laugh]
1 1 Casey STONER AUS Repsol Honda Team Honda 309.8 2'04.791
2 11 Ben SPIES USA Yamaha Factory Racing Yamaha 308.8 2'04.825 0.034 / 0.034
3 19 Alvaro BAUTISTA SPA San Carlo Honda Gresini Honda 308.9 2'04.995 0.204 / 0.170
4 69 Nicky HAYDEN USA Ducati Team Ducati 305.4 2'05.353 0.562 / 0.358
5 6 Stefan BRADL GER LCR Honda MotoGP Honda 312.4 2'05.391 0.600 / 0.038
6 4 Andrea DOVIZIOSO ITA Monster Yamaha Tech 3 Yamaha 311.8 2'05.448 0.657 / 0.057
7 99 Jorge LORENZO SPA Yamaha Factory Racing Yamaha 307.7 2'05.488 0.697 / 0.040
8 35 Cal CRUTCHLOW GBR Monster Yamaha Tech 3 Yamaha 308.2 2'05.574 0.783 / 0.086
9 26 Dani PEDROSA SPA Repsol Honda Team Honda 309.1 2'05.886 1.095 / 0.312
10 8 Hector BARBERA SPA Pramac Racing Team Ducati 311.8 2'06.084 1.293 / 0.198
11 46 Valentino ROSSI ITA Ducati Team Ducati 310.5 2'07.125 2.334 / 1.041
12 14 Randy DE PUNIET FRA Power Electronics Aspar ART 290.7 2'07.893 3.102 / 0.768
13 51 Michele PIRRO ITA San Carlo Honda Gresini FTR 287.9 2'08.535 3.744 / 0.642
14 54 Mattia PASINI ITA Speed Master ART 286.6 2'08.975 4.184 / 0.440
15 68 Yonny HERNANDEZ COL Avintia Blusens BQR 288.2 2'09.078 4.287 / 0.103
16 41 Aleix ESPARGARO SPA Power Electronics Aspar ART 287.6 2'09.379 4.588 / 0.301
17 77 James ELLISON GBR Paul Bird Motorsport ART 289.5 2'09.944 5.153 / 0.565
18 9 Danilo PETRUCCI ITA Came IodaRacing Project Ioda 274.5 2'11.325 6.534 / 1.381
19 5 Colin EDWARDS USA NGM Mobile Forward Racing Suter 284.4 2'11.600 6.809 / 0.275
20 22 Ivan SILVA SPA Avintia Blusens BQR 285.6 2'12.737 7.946 / 1.137
17 Karel ABRAHAM CZE Cardion AB Motoracing Ducati
FP3
Pos. Rider Team Bike Time
1 Casey Stoner Repsol Honda Team Honda RC213V 2:03.941
2 Jorge Lorenzo Yamaha Factory Racing Yamaha M1 2:04.357
3 Ben Spies Yamaha Factory Racing Yamaha M1 2:04.427
4 Andrea Dovizioso Yamaha Tech 3 Yamaha M1 2:04.566
5 Alvaro Bautista Honda Gresini Honda RC213V 2:04.866
6 Dani Pedrosa Repsol Honda Team Honda RC213V 2:05.021
7 Nicky Hayden Marlboro Ducati Team Ducati GP12 2:05.114
8 Hector Barbera Pramac Racing Team Ducati GP12 2:06.377
9 Valentino Rossi Marlboro Ducati Team Ducati GP12 2:06.548
10 Randy De Puniet Aspar Team MotoGP ART 2:07.190
11 Aleix Esparago Aspar Team MotoGP ART 2:07.359
12 Michele Pirro Honda Gresini FTR 2:07.846
13 James Ellison Paul Bird Racing ART 2:08.564
14 Mattia Pasini PayMaster ART 2:08.695
15 Yonny Hernandez BQR BQR-FTR 2:09.275
16 Danilo Petrucci Ioda Racing Project Ioda 2:09.643
17 Ivan Silva BQR BQR-FTR 2:10.048
18 Colin Edwards Forward Racing Suter 2:11.935
Cold yet dry. Crutchlow crashed on his out lap, possibly injuring his ankle. Bradl also crashed and injured his hand and or finger.
Bautista with the Pole. Nice...one of the Spaniards I would actually piss on if they were on fire.
Quote from: ZILBERT on June 16, 2012, 01:35:29 PM
Bautista with the Pole. Nice...one of the Spaniards I would actually piss on if they were on fire.
[laugh]
the ducati crashes during Q were amazingly similar. Something is definitely different about their bikes.
mitt
Hayden was on a hot lap there too.
And Rossi struggled all weekend searching for the sound and couldn't find it.
Needless to say, I'm praying for rain
Excellent race! Spies looked good the first half, then got gobbled up by the aliens. Baptist looked great keeping up with the Repsol boys, but Crutchlow was downright sick with the broken ankle. It got a bit boring towards the end, but [thumbsup] [thumbsup] in general.
Really good to see Ben in the lead for a while. [beer]
Crutchlow is a make the beast with two backsin' animal, starting from last and bagging 6th, with a broken ankle. :o
Where's all the Casey is an Animal, he's untouchable, unrivaled talk now?
Lorenzo has been putting on a clinic of how it's done this season. On a bike that's inferior to the Honda.
Great race and great racecraft by Jorge.
:)
Lorenzo is a beast but Stoner's pace dropped off like a rock so getting around him wasn't a skillful dismantling of a superior opponent but a matter of patience for the Honda to come off the pace.
And before you burst into flames, keep in mind that I told my wife as he was going around Stoner that I may hate him with a passion but he can ride.
But a big part of his win was Stoner not being able to maintain the pace.
Tom Sykes and Nicky Hayden are alike, but Tom loses traction. what's Nicky's excuse?
Quote from: El Matador on June 17, 2012, 01:05:58 PM
On a bike that's inferior to the Honda.
:)
That statement is just not true, the Yamaha's have had it over the Honda's all season. Look at what the non factory yamaha's are doing. That Yamaha is something special. Honda better pull there finger out of there arse or George is going to smash them
I would say that the Yam is a better bike than the Honda this season... simply due to the chattering they're getting. Cant really blame Honda for it as it's probably because they designed the bike around the much harder previous tires but well... I guess that's racing. That previous article also said that it was only Honda that was having issues with the new tires.
And I dont see why Sykes and Hayden would be compared? Overall I'm actually pretty impressed with Hayden's riding this race.
But yeah, overall good race in the start and mid, a bit boring at the end.
Lets hope spies can keep this up... but even with Spies doing a better job... Cal's performance is pretty much sealing his move to the factory team imo.
The GP was fun. Nice to see The Ben pulling it together a little more. And Hayden always gets a [thumbsup] in my book. Damn that inferior Ducati
But the best part of today was Redding and Marquez on the last lap... :o
Quote from: lazyjinglin717 on June 17, 2012, 05:13:35 PM
The GP was fun. Nice to see The Ben pulling it together a little more. And Hayden always gets a [thumbsup] in my book. Damn that inferior Ducati
But the best part of today was Redding and Marquez on the last lap... :o
Not only the last lap but a bunch of laps previously too!
Quote from: thought on June 17, 2012, 04:26:32 PM
I would say that the Yam is a better bike than the Honda this season...
Agreed. Both are good, but it looks like the Yamaha has the advantage this year.
...which is why Spies' struggles are so weird. I thought he was going to turn it around this race, but nope (although he did do better).
Hayden had a decent ride, given his bike. I was hoping he could stay in the lead pack, but I knew he wouldn't be able to.
Lorenzo put on a show.
...and Crutchlow is the man.
Cal Crutchlow...the new Colin Edwards. ;D
Quote from: El Matador on June 17, 2012, 01:05:58 PM
On a bike that's inferior to the Honda.
I think you guys have been pretty soft on this statement. It's outright false. The only Yamaha rider that has been struggling has been the Ben. When both satellite riders are consistently finishing races right behind the aliens is proof enough that you have a sorted bike. When Lorenzo was behind Stoner you could tell that Casey was riding that thing like a bat outta hell. Lorenzo was just hanging out picking his spot. He knew he could pass at just about any corner. i think he was just hoping Casey would go in too hot into a corner, then he just got tired of waiting.
Cruthlow would have finished second, if not fighting for the lead. If it wasn't for the fact that he had to start dead last. That man is a beast and pretty much has the factory seat. If I was the Ben, I would look at the Tech 3 option now before he's forced to really downgrade or head back to WSBK next year.
Quote from: ZILBERT on June 18, 2012, 08:22:20 AM
Cal Crutchlow...the new Colin Edwards. ;D
...but add 5 positions.
Being a Rossi then Dovi fan, It was sad to see Dovi who was doing great and with the lead pack drop off due to problems (not sure if he crashed). Between Cal and Dovi, ofcourse I choose Dovi But Cal race today with the crazy injury was great.
I do love it when Cal always cracks on the BBC commentator :-). This time it was about his red pants. You can see the commentator doesn't really like it and has no good come back (or am I reading into it)
Quote from: duccarlos on June 18, 2012, 08:46:51 AM
I think you guys have been pretty soft on this statement. It's outright false. The only Yamaha rider that has been struggling has been the Ben. When both satellite riders are consistently finishing races right behind the aliens is proof enough that you have a sorted bike. When Lorenzo was behind Stoner you could tell that Casey was riding that thing like a bat outta hell. Lorenzo was just hanging out picking his spot. He knew he could pass at just about any corner. i think he was just hoping Casey would go in too hot into a corner, then he just got tired of waiting.
Cruthlow would have finished second, if not fighting for the lead. If it wasn't for the fact that he had to start dead last. That man is a beast and pretty much has the factory seat. If I was the Ben, I would look at the Tech 3 option now before he's forced to really downgrade or head back to WSBK next year.
There is a pretty big difference between sixth and first. I like Cal, but I don't think he's got what it takes to be an alien.
And I guess you guys are right on the Yamaha, though I think it's results are due more in part by the talent that's on it.
Quote from: El Matador on June 18, 2012, 09:45:34 AM
There is a pretty big difference between sixth and first. I like Cal, but I don't think he's got what it takes to be an alien.
And I guess you guys are right on the Yamaha, though I think it's results are due more in part by the talent that's on it.
Granted, Crutchlow gave up ~12 sec to Lorenzo over the course of the race.
But he passed 10 more riders, and had a broken ankle to boot.
Quote from: Speeddog on June 18, 2012, 10:09:52 AM
Granted, Crutchlow gave up ~12 sec to Lorenzo over the course of the race.
But he passed 10 more riders, and had a broken ankle to boot.
He was the second fastest rider out there, second to Lorenzo. Let's say he would have qualified second row. That time that Lorenzo took to over take Stoner would have bunch them right up. I agree that Lorenzo would have eventually checked out, but he would have been battling with Crutchlow on his way to the podium.
Quote from: duccarlos on June 18, 2012, 11:23:55 AM
He was the second fastest rider out there, second to Lorenzo. Let's say he would have qualified second row. That time that Lorenzo took to over take Stoner would have bunch them right up. I agree that Lorenzo would have eventually checked out, but he would have been battling with Crutchlow on his way to the podium.
QFMFT
Quote from: Speeddog on June 18, 2012, 10:09:52 AM
But he passed 10 more riders, [ and had a broken ankle to boot. ]
I take it no pun intended. ;D
Watched the Moto2 race last night. FAN-make the beast with two backsING-TASTIC riding from Redding.
And nice to see Pol dominate that way after the shit stick he was fed in Barcelona.
Wish Crazy Joe had finished a bit stronger as he is still my favorite Moto2 rider but the way Redding was pushing Marquez to the very ragged edge made me feel all warm and IZ_ inside. Definitely a great display of true racecraft from Redding.
Ben -- started 2d. Healthy all weekend. Finished 5th. On a factory Yami.
Crutchlow -- started 20th. Broken ankle (he was TAKING HIS LEG OFF THE PEG IN TURNS). Finished 6th. On a satellite bike. 3.5 seconds behind Ben.
Ben just officially lost his ride.
Anyone else catch Bautista's front wheel fold (I think it was in Turn 1)? For the life of me, I can't figure out how he didn't crash. It made absolutely no sense. Amazing.
Rossi blaming the frontend feel again:
http://www.gpone.com/index.php/en/201206177284/Rossi-at-a-crossroads-with-Ducati.html (http://www.gpone.com/index.php/en/201206177284/Rossi-at-a-crossroads-with-Ducati.html)
I watched a fully moto3 race at silverstone, now that was a race neck and neck.