My boss has endorsed it, but I am wondering if it is worth all the work. I have done ITIL stuff in the past, which I like a bit more, but this is the productivity religion that my current company has decided to practice. Any feedback from green or black belts out there? Love to hear any comments about taking it to another company (whether you have experience with a new company "honoring" the belt you got at another company or not), market value of a belt, and how much you got out of the program in general. TIA, y'all.
Get the Certification - in this day and age, certifications are far more important in getting a job than what you know. If the company is going to pick up the tab, take it. A guy I used to work with got his Lean Sensai certification and he works where he wants. Most of the manufacturing companies in this area have all drank the Lean Koolaid. I have just never seen the benefit of implementing expensive, flexibility crushing programs to accomplish what decent management should have done in the first place. Guess I'm just a heretic.
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Well said.
In the company where I work, we do not honor Greenbelt certification from another company. I have heard that many companies do not even recognize Greenbelt certification. There is too much variation on training and proficiency expectations. If you are looking to boost your resume, you should really consider Blackbelt certification. The training is much more rigorous, but it conforms to industry standards and is more universally recognized. btw, I am a Master Blackbelt, and I have had to re-train lots of people who were Greenbelt certified by other companies.
In theory we use it but I have yet to see anything and able to identify it as "that's six sigma" so really I have no clue what you lot are talking about.
It's a way to make your/somebody's job obsolete.
Frederick Taylor did that in 1911 with a stopwatch.
Quote from: WarrenJ on July 13, 2012, 11:16:24 AM
Get the Certification - in this day and age, certifications are far more important in getting a job than what you know. If the company is going to pick up the tab, take it. A guy I used to work with got his Lean Sensai certification and he works where he wants. Most of the manufacturing companies in this area have all drank the Lean Koolaid. I have just never seen the benefit of implementing expensive, flexibility crushing programs to accomplish what decent management should have done in the first place. Guess I'm just a heretic.
Agreed I worked for FoMoCo for 31 years did SS Black Belt about in my 25th year ..best thing I ever did , so many company's respect this accreditation. It helped me get my current position as Manager of Parks and Rec
oh dear god. just reading the title shut my brain off...
Is this about pancakes? I love pancakes ...
I'm a certified Green Belt and in my opinion it does help in some situations to be able to methodically extract out key elements of a process and apply some quantitative statistical analysis to determine where it can be optimized. The perils are it can become too easy to lose sight of the overall objective and become distracted into doing something that's not advisable. The other peril is it really does need to have complete corporate support as doing all the analysis is time consuming and it's really annoying to put together a presentation with suggested actions only to have it chucked because an executive didn't like it.
Title and last post are both vomitous.
May the next person to use a buzzword on a happy little moto forum take over the title of "Iz, attracter of nails".
Quote from: Dwead Piwate Woberts on July 18, 2012, 11:56:57 PM
Title and last post are both vomitous.
May the next person to use a buzzword on a happy little moto forum take over the title of "Iz, attracter of nails".
wow.
I was going to make a sarcastic reply using all the mgmtspeak they throw at us... but I just... can't... do... iiiit
Working on Greenbelt Cert.....Not by choice.....it sucks. I think the company could save more money by getting rid of the Blackbelts. Thousands of hours wasted on meaningless projects that save money on paper.
Quote from: Dwead Piwate Woberts on July 18, 2012, 11:56:57 PM
Title and last post are both vomitous.
May the next person to use a buzzword on a happy little moto forum take over the title of "Iz, attracter of nails".
Go make the beast with two backs yourself. Go actualize a solution for self-pleasure involving dynamic, inter-organ stimulation.
Someone delete my account. I have more than a thousand posts here, but I always feel like I am cutting in on a circle jerk.
Quote from: Randy@StradaFab on July 26, 2012, 10:18:41 PM
I think the company could save more money by getting rid of the Blackbelts.
A Blackbelt thinks the company can save money by getting rid of you. Guess who management will listen to?
QuoteA Blackbelt thinks the company can save money by getting rid of you. Guess who management will listen to?
That's a no-brainer. The number of people at the plants keeps going down while the number of people at corporate keeps going up.
Quote from: il d00d on July 27, 2012, 09:39:36 AM
Go make the beast with two backs yourself. Go actualize a solution for self-pleasure involving dynamic, inter-organ stimulation.
Someone delete my account. I have more than a thousand posts here, but I always feel like I am cutting in on a circle jerk.
You can delete your own account.
The gfys gets you an official warning.
Next one is a suspension.