This has got to stop, please contact your legislators ]http://capwiz.com/amacycle/issues/alert/?alertid=61632086&queueid=[capwiz:queue_id] (http://capwiz.com/amacycle/issues/alert/?alertid=61632086&queueid=%5Bcapwiz:queue_id) - Gene
Thanks for the link, sent mine in...
I had concerns that 'blender pumps' could allow some ethanol to slip in even when pumping ethanol free gas. When I refill my Sport 1000 I do it from a separate gas can which I only fill after first pumping some gas into my truck so that any of the 5% or 10% ethanol gas that happened to be left in the lines gets into my truck and not into the gas can. Then I test the gas in the can for ethanol before I use it to fill my Sport 1000. So far, this process has been working, but I don't ride my Sport 1000 very often. You certainly wouldn't want to follow this procedure with a daily ride.
I wouldn't have any problem with the blender pumps if I could also select G100, no ethanol.
Whatever ethanol is left in the hose/pump would end up being a tiny percentage.
Quote from: ducatiz on August 09, 2012, 07:15:13 AM
I wouldn't have any problem with the blender pumps if I could also select G100, no ethanol.
Whatever ethanol is left in the hose/pump would end up being a tiny percentage.
^ what he said, they arent designed to leave large amounts of fuel in the pumps. There is a piston that measures how much fuel and its safe to say you get more than 95% of that fuel.
5% of a fuel thats 15% ethanol, mixed into 100% of a 10% solution mix.
you do that math. its not going to matter if u get left over from an E15 in the hose to an E10 in the hose. WHat will matter is if u press the wrong button and run E15.
but the issue is if I read the article correct...
you HAVE to buy 5 gallons of E15 before you can buy anything else.
No the issue is that if you select E15, the minimum purchase is 54 gallons. There are some blender pumps with a separate hose for E fuels, but I have only seen them in pictures, so as you can see if you are using the same hose/nozzle it's going to be a problem. The first pump put in use is in Kansas http://green.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/07/11/e15-fuel-reaches-the-gas-pump-but-just-one/ (http://green.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/07/11/e15-fuel-reaches-the-gas-pump-but-just-one/) as you got through the article one of the hot links includes a picture of the actual pump in the background. - Gene
"'blender pumps' that allow the customer to choose a gasoline-ethanol mix that is 10 percent, 15 percent, 30 percent or 85 percent ethanol. "
"Should a driver selects E15, there will be about one-third of a gallon left in the hose when he or she finishes pumping, which could be a problem if the next customer buys a small quantity to fill a portable gasoline tank. The solution: the station requires a four-gallon minimum purchase."
Yep, I meant 4 gallons. Still not clear how they force you to buy 4 gallons. I'm going to call the station if I can find the number.
Update I called the station - basically the pump has no way to regulate how much you pump, so the minimum purchase of 4 gallons isn't enforced by the pump. So to me it sound like it's just a CYA if you buy less than 4 gallons of E10 it may be contaminated. - Gene
Quote from: twolanefun on August 09, 2012, 10:51:37 AM
Yep, I meant 4 gallons. Still not clear how they force you to buy 4 gallons. I'm going to call the station if I can find th number. - Gene
they probably charge you for 4 gallons and you do what you want.
think about it.
See update on my post. - Gene
I clicked...
and got a response from my senator.
We'll see.
If if doesn't pass, everybody can still use "too fast gas". Vp, turbo blue, etc at a butt raping $6ish a gallon