I've been looking for a "reasonably" priced Tard but no dice. I see absolutely NO half tards out there and although I do prefer an 1100 I wouldn't mind a cheap half tard either since it will be ridden like a bat out of hell. Not ready to pull the trigger just yet but considering options. I hope Santa has a big pocket book this time.
Any suggestions on who is selling these gems?
Ducati has a Motard?
no it's made by Cagiva
Are you specifically looking for a Duc? Or are other things on the plate?
if you don't mind a more needy bike, the 550 Ape-tard (SXV 550) is a freaking missile with wheels.
I'm not in need of a Tard but it's my first choice. I'm also looking for thumpers and the like.
Huh? I'm confused - you desire a Hyper over others? Or... 'Tard is the more generic term
The Ape is a twin... a high spinning 78hp, 250 pound little arm ripping beast.
I'm confused as well........when I see her I'll know. [laugh]
Ok then - well what are your criteria? Like:
Weight?
Want to go offroad (ish) confidently?
Planned use?
etc etc
Quote from: Slide Panda on October 31, 2012, 09:16:10 AM
Ok then - well what are your criteria? Like:
Weight?
Want to go offroad (ish) confidently?
Planned use?
etc etc
Weight? under 450
Want to go offroad (ish) confidently? priority is asphalt with 20% dirt roads
Planned use? getting tickets and acting a fool but it's going to be a secondary bike
etc etc. fun, relatively cheap and a bike I don't mind doing some fixing-up if its not in the best of shape.
Under 450? Sweet jesus - no motard should be that heavy! That's adventure bike territory. Think 300... my KTM690 is 305 with oil, battery and coolant (no gas)
Ok, well the Duc motard is really just a street bike. It'll handle fire or unmaintained roads, but it's no off roader or jumper. Engine case, and header are vulnerable to impacts from below and the swing arm is mounted to the case, making it vulnerable to cracks if hit hard.
DRZ400SM Might be a good option
- Fun, relatively cheap and easy/inexpensive to fix.
That Ape I mention is sorta like an R model duc.... big F on the fun factor, but you're checking valves a lot, and tending other stuff too.
KTM 690 might be an option - don't go for a 640 they aren't balanced - so they shake the shit out of you. Mines a hoot and I ride it at the track... plenty bike to beat up on folks with much more HP if you ride it well.
I do love the KTM 690.
There are lots of DRZ's out here and I'm going to look at two of them this weekend.
I like my KTM, but they are harder to find and will cost you more. More power than the DRZ of course 400 vs 650 or 690 depending on year. But I've seen some guys who a quick quick on the DRZ.
Also the KTMs to have a few things that need to be checked on/addressed. 08 and maybe 09 got a bad batch of bearings in their rocker arms and go off early. I looked over mine and it was showing signs - and this is around 3,000 miles. Also known to gum up fuel filters really early, especially if you offroad 'em. Couple other quirks that are free or very cheap to address, but are out there - like a poorly routed fuel line that rubs on a bolt if not moved from the factory install.
My first bike was a ktm 560smr super moto.... It was a beast and only weighed 240lbs dry. Ridiculously fun!
thanks for the notice on the KTM's. [thumbsup]
Quote from: Slide Panda on October 31, 2012, 10:27:40 AM
blah, blah, blah - don't go for a 640 they aren't balanced - so they shake the shit out of you. blah, blah, blah
listen not to this man
the unbalanced LC4s make a man out of you!
I've ridden 900 mile weekends on mine and yet I still live...couldn't sit right for a bit but came out otherwise just fine ;D
my KTM, shaky though it is, is the absolute fastest thing I've every thrown down a rough back road.
I'll run wide on uphill corners all the time as the front end doesn't like staying down
you need a motard, NEED one
^
This. My KTM 450 is ridiculous. I've never done so many wheelies.
250lbs dry, 40ish hp, and good on gas at the same time :D
It makes you do bad things. Probably shouldn't buy one.
;D
we shall see what the weekend holds in store. [evil]
Quote from: lethe on October 31, 2012, 04:58:14 PM
listen not to this man
the unbalanced LC4s make a man out of you!
Feh! That shaking has obviously rattled the sense out of your head!
Quote from: lethe on October 31, 2012, 04:58:14 PM
you need a motard, NEED one
Though he does have moments of clarity from time to time.
I do like the new 2013 Husky 650 Strada .
Quote from: muskrat on October 31, 2012, 08:06:14 PM
we shall see what the store holds on the weekend. [evil]
reworded for ya!
[evil]
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Looks good... but motard it is not. Give me one and I'd hope to ride the balls off it... but I ain't trying to cross a log or ford a creek on it.
Quote from: Slide Panda on November 01, 2012, 12:52:03 PM
Looks good... but motard it is not. Give me one and I'd hope to ride the balls off it... but I ain't trying to cross a log or ford a creek on it.
well it is a Hypermotard rival (Rivale is the name) and now we see why the HYM848 was so important.
May not be a tard but that bike would easily replace my S4R
MV makes beautiful bikes!!!
[thumbsup]
Yeah def a "Streetbike [roll]
Motards are way too much fun and make a great 2nd or 3rd bike but not a daily rider or long distance machine. I've got an 08 Ape SXV 5.5 75hp 280 lbs. Only downside is it's basically a race bike with lights so it's needy maintenance wise. Begs you to ride like a complete ass on the streets and is crazy fun on the track.
Quote from: txduc on November 02, 2012, 11:59:13 AM
Begs you to ride like a complete ass on the streets and is crazy fun on the track.
Oh yeah it does... bad bad things. I want...
how bad? ;)
Quote from: txduc on November 02, 2012, 11:59:13 AM
Motards are way too much fun and make a great 2nd or 3rd bike but not a daily rider or long distance machine.
*Cough*...*choke* BS! Ive got over 30K on mine (ktm 690) commuting and long distance touring, not to mention some good off roading on street tires, and i'm about to head to South America for a 40K mile loop.
Quote from: txduc on November 02, 2012, 11:59:13 AM
I've got an 08 Ape SXV 5.5 75hp 280 lbs.
Ok never mind i see what your riding ;D
Quote from: muskrat on November 02, 2012, 02:55:04 PM
how bad? ;)
how bad does he want or how bad would he be with it?....on both levels...I'd bet very much on both...
my shopping will be cut shot because "she who is Queen" wants a tread mill. She woke up yesterday and decided she was fat and the only way to remedy this shit is with an expensive coat hanger. [bang]
Forget the tread mill for "her who shall be obeyed"... [evil]
Get yourself some nice birch twigs and chase her round the garden... [roll]
It's alway's worked for me... [laugh] mind you I am a cheap Charlie... :-[
Geoff... [coffee]
enroll her in a couch to 5k program!
Quote from: muskrat on November 03, 2012, 06:55:32 AM
my shopping will be cut shot because "she who is Queen" wants a tread mill. She woke up yesterday and decided she was fat and the only way to remedy this shit is with an expensive coat hanger. [bang]
I have a really nice treadmill in my garage I'll sell you for cheap. It is a great place to store boxes.
You have to come to San Diego to pick it up though.
Listen to zoom if possible he's been through the couch to 5k and is now busting out half marathons (and gearing up for a full?)
A treadmill /= motivation or solution. One must really use any item to get value. Couch to 5k provides motivation. Similar things like boot camps where they will call if you no show or other progs where your absence is noted really so more since you do more.
Might be a hard unsell since she knows you have an eye on funds. But really a home treadmill ends up as a coat rack 95% of the time
Well we bought the worlds most expensive coat hanger. She promises she is gonna use it. I give it 3 months and after that I'm burning the make the beast with two backsing thing.
No dice geoffduc, she found the stick
Well I hope I'm wrong.
Quote from: muskrat on November 02, 2012, 02:55:04 PM
how bad? ;)
Like breaking the laws of the road and common decency bad...
Quote from: Slide Panda on November 03, 2012, 01:32:48 PM
Like breaking the laws of the road and common decency bad...
^^^^^^^^
I hope you don't consider the occasional wheelie or curb jump bad!!? [evil] [roll]
Can't wait to jump curbs
I'm psyching myself up to jump off the loading dock at the shop. Well, more ride out the door, negotiate the 5' drop and not bust my ass.
I'm gonna request that video is rolling for that
If i do it, it will be.
Quote from: Monsterlover on November 03, 2012, 05:27:37 PM
I'm psyching myself up to jump off the loading dock at the shop. Well, more ride out the door, negotiate the 5' drop and not bust my ass.
You said it...now you gotta do it!!! [popcorn]
I agree with the above, or are ya a pussy? Here kitty kitty [evil]
Bikes away for the winter. Perhaps in the spring ;)
now that's just shit. that's a horrible thing to do to us all. :-[
Put the bike away?
Or making you wait?
Quote from: Monsterlover on November 04, 2012, 04:06:12 AM
Put the bike away?
Or making you wait?
Both [thumbsdown]. N n n ;D
Quote from: 118811 on November 03, 2012, 02:42:29 PM
^^^^^^^^
I hope you don't consider the occasional wheelie or curb jump bad!!? [evil] [roll]
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Doughnuts in the church front lawn, dogs and cats living together bad