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Title: What caused this crash?
Post by: rgury on July 02, 2008, 11:06:47 AM
The sand?  He passed it, then the rear gave...?

http://my.break.com/content/view.aspx?ContentID=529596
Title: Re: What caused this crash?
Post by: derby on July 02, 2008, 11:09:44 AM
gravity!  ;D
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Post by: spolic on July 02, 2008, 11:23:23 AM
make the pass...set up for the next turn on 3.  BREAK
Title: Re: What caused this crash?
Post by: pennyrobber on July 02, 2008, 11:57:39 AM
Breaking a little to hard maybe.
Title: Re: What caused this crash?
Post by: mcgalinmd on July 02, 2008, 12:07:36 PM
gravity sucks :) but my guess it's too much front brake at just the wrong time....looks like the front end "buckles" a little then the rear goes.
Title: Re: What caused this crash?
Post by: Grampa on July 02, 2008, 12:08:35 PM
panic front brake as the guy in front slows
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Post by: Le Piou on July 02, 2008, 12:09:46 PM
The chain broke and got struck into the rear wheel?
Title: Re: What caused this crash?
Post by: CIE on July 02, 2008, 01:02:34 PM
Late pass, locked up front wheel because he underestimated closing speed to the next rider.  Bike wasn't going in a straight line.

I watched one of my buddies do the same thing from about 3 feet back.  Just freaked out and grabbed too much front brake.  Front tucked and he was instantly on the ground.
Title: Re: What caused this crash?
Post by: ducatiz on July 02, 2008, 01:09:17 PM
did he downshift?

just a feeling from teh way the wheel pulled and seems to bounce.
Title: Re: What caused this crash?
Post by: CDawg on July 02, 2008, 01:19:04 PM
okay, I got my mouse positioned at the 10 sec mark so I could see it again and again...My guess is sand on the left side of the road.  At 11 sec the bike seem to slide towards the center before the rear lost traction.  Maybe he lost traction in the sand then chopped throttle in a panic and unloaded the rear which kick it out?
???
Title: Re: What caused this crash?
Post by: monsterista on July 02, 2008, 03:24:10 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but by the dust lifted from the back wheel it looks like a rear tire blowout !?!?!?
Title: Re: What caused this crash?
Post by: BWClark on July 02, 2008, 04:01:32 PM
He grabbed the brakes too hard...

The deceptive part about it is the bike in front and the camera bike are already sorta hard on the anchors. Normally you'd expect the gap to close between the camera bike and the bike in front, but the camera bike is maintaining the same distance. Watch the rear ride height to see when the front bike is on the brakes.

The 3rd bike passes the camera bike under braking, and probably realizes he wont get past the other, so tries to slot in behind. He was already braking hard like the others, that little bit extra pressure locked the front and he went down... oops  :-\

Edit: watched again. Now I'm not so sure...  ???
Title: Re: What caused this crash?
Post by: Hedgehog on July 02, 2008, 04:13:11 PM
Quote from: monsterista on July 02, 2008, 03:24:10 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but by the dust lifted from the back wheel it looks like a rear tire blowout !?!?!?

That's what it looks like to me, as well.
Title: Re: What caused this crash?
Post by: Pancake81 on July 02, 2008, 04:18:54 PM
Inexperience  [roll]
Title: Re: What caused this crash?
Post by: 55Spy on July 02, 2008, 05:46:43 PM
Like others have said prolly heavy brake hand

Btu I'm guessing he is the only one who will ever know.
Title: Re: What caused this crash?
Post by: Cabbie on July 02, 2008, 07:33:01 PM
Thats at Summit Point and that first turn they are going through is turn 3.. a tick over 90 degree left heading up a hill.. as you crest the hill blind you actually find that the road kinks slightly to the right... As they went over the hill, the rider came up fast on the inside but ran out of track as he closed on the slower rider.  He then grabbed a handful of front brake and down he went.  That track is not known for its surface by any means.. heavy jerk on the front brake=ride down.
Title: Re: What caused this crash?
Post by: BastrdHK on July 02, 2008, 08:00:42 PM
absolutely locked the front......give away is the smoke peeling off the front first.  That is the M.O. for too much front brake.......you are on your face before you even know what happened!  That guy took it on the chin hard, and lucky he didn't eat 600lbs of motorized man to boot.
Title: Re: What caused this crash?
Post by: crashmoto on July 02, 2008, 10:49:44 PM
front brake.  looks like he didn't think about on the guy in front being in his intended line, thus had overshot his turn in point, panicked, grabbed front brake etc.. looks like it was a sloppy approach anyway- his mind and the bike were intending to do different things... inexperience going too fast probably

Title: Re: What caused this crash?
Post by: Big Troubled Bear on July 02, 2008, 11:15:53 PM
Stupidity :o