Fun onboard video from Mike Edwards on a TZ 350 at Brands Hatch. Unless you're entertaining thoughts of picking up a racing two stroke for city traffic, skip forward to around the 6:15 mark. But then be sure to watch through to the end...
Yamaha TZ 350 onboard video Brands Hatch GP ICGP practice Mike 'Spike' Edwards (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNVqcFvoRq4#)
[evil]
2 stroke vids make me want to start doing track days again...with a RGV250 or TZ250R... [evil]
oh yeah. i love that harsh edge noise they get sometimes as the revs peak.
brings back those happy days with the kr1s 250. spend the day wailing around the track, ending inevitably with the brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrpp p p p p and parked on the grass.
a great day out and something to do when you get home. what more could a boy's heart desire?
happy, happy days.
Great video, brings back memories of my old RD400.
Man, you can really tell where that things power band is tuned for in the Revs. Hits about 7500 and zooooooom!
Racing 2 strokes are like light switches.
Either on...or off.
Quote from: ZILBERT on March 12, 2013, 07:32:50 PM
2 stroke vids make me want to start doing track days again...with a RGV250 or TZ250R... [evil]
I'd cut off a vital appendage to have my old RD400 Daytona Special back in the garage. Hope it's still alive and running some where on the planet. [thumbsup] Bill Wirges expansion chambers, K&N pod filters and I think it had Dunlop K181 tires... not 100% sure. I'm old and forget details but I damn sure had fun on that bike! [thumbsup] [Dolph]
Nothing else says "I love you" like a two-stroke on the pipe. A Desmosedici with EBC set at maximum is a close second. [evil]
Quote from: Cloner on March 15, 2013, 10:44:37 AM
Nothing else says "I love you" like a two-stroke on the pipe. A Desmosedici with EBC set at maximum is a close second. [evil]
^ This. [thumbsup]
Quote from: ducpainter on March 13, 2013, 05:47:39 AM
Racing 2 strokes are like light switches.
Either on...or off.
Yep, the good ol' days, that's why my arms are an inch longer than they should be.
A friend of mine (and sometime DMFer) says she's two weeks away from roadworthy with her RD350 cafe project. Except she's still ISO a front brake caliper. I've got three in the XS650 stash. I think I'm in a pretty good spot to negotiate a ride when it's done... >:-)
Never owned a road going 2 stroke but i did own a few offroad 2 strokes. Two strokes are near and dear to my heart. I could go for a RD 400 in my garage.
I have never had a 2 stroke, butt have always lusted for a Bultaco Metrella.
Quote from: SpikeC on March 17, 2013, 12:08:30 PM
I have never had a 2 stroke, butt have always lusted for a Bultaco Metrella.
Oh shit!! Had two friends that had Metrellas in the day when I raced Pursangs in the dirt. I'd cut off your left nut as sacrifice to own a Metralla today! No offense! Just business... [laugh] [beer] Didn't know that anyone left on this planet even knew what a Metrella was! [thumbsup]
More goodness... 1969 Bultaco Metralla (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKBx_35NZTc#)
Well, I have been on the planet for a while.........
This was almost the First Bike I owned.
Hodaka 100 for sale on ebay (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Zjgl6LEJza0#)
I bought a 125 Yamaha instead. Parts were more available for the Yamaha.
Quote from: fastwin on March 17, 2013, 12:13:48 PM
Oh shit!! Had two friends that had Metrellas in the day when I raced Pursangs in the dirt. I'd cut off your left nut as sacrifice to own a Metralla today! No offense! Just business... [laugh] [beer] Didn't know that anyone left on this planet even knew what a Metrella was! [thumbsup]
More goodness... 1969 Bultaco Metralla (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKBx_35NZTc#)
...and some of us even know how to spell it.
Oh man, sooo good. [drool]
My rolling restoration GT550 - I just got some stuff chromed and other stuff polished but not put on yet.
(http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc190/stankbone/DSC01716_zpsca3d6709.jpg)
Quote from: Bill in OKC on March 25, 2013, 11:08:33 PM
My rolling restoration GT550 - I just got some stuff chromed and other stuff polished but not put on yet.
(http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc190/stankbone/DSC01716_zpsca3d6709.jpg)
[thumbsup]
Got more pics?
This is when the crank was rebuilt. Bill Bune up in Minnesota fixed it up. New seals, bearings, one new rod and one new crank pin.
(http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc190/stankbone/DSC00995.jpg)
I love the simplicity of the 2 stroke. :)
A V twin design seems alot more complicated though, unless the cylinders are offset or there were two cranks.
Quote from: Mendo Dave on March 26, 2013, 07:12:12 AM
I love the simplicity of the 2 stroke. :)
A V twin design seems alot more complicated though, unless the cylinders are offset or there were two cranks.
Like this little Honda RS250 GP, V twin 250cc 2 stroke that makes close to 90 HP at 12,500 RPM ;D
Motor belongs to an EX Honda factory racer that we are busy rebuilding.
(http://i976.photobucket.com/albums/ae249/Veloce-sa/P3251200a_zpsbd29edce.jpg)
(http://i976.photobucket.com/albums/ae249/Veloce-sa/P3251201a_zps61416f39.jpg)
(http://i976.photobucket.com/albums/ae249/Veloce-sa/P3251202a_zps75f7ecde.jpg)
Yes that was the offset design i was thinking of. That doesnt look too bad. Just imagine an aircooled version that just happened to fit right into an 888 style frame and had an open clutch. About 500 or 600 cc's [evil]
(http://www.ducati.ms/forums/attachments/ducati-motorcycle-chat/84943d1297868432-ducati-frames-wheels-powder-coated-painted-043.jpg)
Quote from: Mendo Dave on March 26, 2013, 09:10:53 AM
Yes that was the offset design i was thinking of. That doesnt look too bad. Just imagine an aircooled version that just happened to fit right into an 888 style frame and had an open clutch. About 500 or 600 cc's [evil]
(http://www.ducati.ms/forums/attachments/ducati-motorcycle-chat/84943d1297868432-ducati-frames-wheels-powder-coated-painted-043.jpg)
Don't look now, but your 888 is actually a SuperSport. ;)
Quote from: Cloner on March 28, 2013, 04:05:47 PM
Don't look now, but your 888 is actually a SuperSport. ;)
It was the best looking photo I could find.
Stole this from MotoLady's FB page:
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/0146b047739b55d5bb435b16f462d59a/tumblr_mkc8w9ruTC1qgolyao1_1280.jpg)
How many years do you think it's been since a motorcycle ad featured someone with a beer in hand? [drink]
My second motorcycle was one of these with cafe bars. I did not take pics back then but found this online. Two stroke triple! It was tremendously quick, did not turn, did not stop. But it would rip your arms out of their sockets. Wish I still had it they only let 500 into the U.S. before the DOT told them "no more" as they were to fast for their weight class. Rode it 900 miles in one day once. Left a trail of blue smoke from Redding CA to Portland OR and back. Had to stop every fifty miles to get the feeling back in my hands and feet.
(http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f149/Skybarney/s1.jpg)
Quote from: Skybarney on March 31, 2013, 04:38:40 PM
My second motorcycle was one of these with cafe bars. I did not take pics back then but found this online. Two stroke triple! It was tremendously quick, did not turn, did not stop. But it would rip your arms out of their sockets. Wish I still had it they only let 500 into the U.S. before the DOT told them "no more" as they were to fast for their weight class. Rode it 900 miles in one day once. Left a trail of blue smoke from Redding CA to Portland OR and back. Had to stop every fifty miles to get the feeling back in my hands and feet.
(http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f149/Skybarney/s1.jpg)
I love that story.
(http://i1201.photobucket.com/albums/bb347/dapaoli/77399169-02D5-4F11-A72C-B286B11944ED-2431-000002D452904BC0_zps05dc4815.jpg)
Absolutely beautiful. For a company that hates 2 strokes, they sure knew how to build them. A street legal version of that would be the only Honda I would consider owning.
Quote from: Bill in OKC on April 09, 2013, 04:00:53 PM
Absolutely beautiful. For a company that hates 2 strokes, they sure knew how to build them. A street legal version of that would be the only Honda I would consider owning.
What do you mean they hate 2 strokes? They made lots of them in the past.
Quote from: Mendo Dave on April 09, 2013, 04:54:26 PM
What do you mean they hate 2 strokes? They made lots of them in the past.
"The Old Man had come to really hate 2-stroke engines then."
http://world.honda.com/history/limitlessdreams/qualityproducts/text/01.html (http://world.honda.com/history/limitlessdreams/qualityproducts/text/01.html)
Honda swore they would never build a two stroke. Then in the interest of winning races, they were forced to - until they could get two strokes banned.
Not near as cool as some of those but here's a kx250 I picked up that needed the whole engine redone. New crank, bearings, rod, piston, etc. This was on its first start.
Not near as cool as some of those oil burners previously posted though.
(http://i1098.photobucket.com/albums/g374/omfg_nick/99E1983A-9436-40DF-9643-D82EE0C45EC3-11223-0000127C56750E64_zps0e7a8f7c.jpg)
Quote from: Bill in OKC on April 09, 2013, 05:54:59 PM
"The Old Man had come to really hate 2-stroke engines then."
http://world.honda.com/history/limitlessdreams/qualityproducts/text/01.html (http://world.honda.com/history/limitlessdreams/qualityproducts/text/01.html)
Honda swore they would never build a two stroke. Then in the interest of winning races, they were forced to - until they could get two strokes banned.
well I guess the company wasn't listening when it made bikes like these.
(http://automotobounce.com/pics/39/84/Honda-cr-500_50157.jpg)
500
(http://vintagemx.com.au/wp-content/gallery/honda-cr250/2004_cr250.jpg)
250
(http://p1.bikepics.com/2006%5C05%5C01%5Cbikepics-577225-320.jpg)
125
(http://www.electrosport.com/media/catalog/category/cr80r22_1.jpg)
80
(http://www.cyclechaos.com/wiki/images/a/a2/1984-Honda-CR60-2.jpg)
60
(http://motorcycle-specs.com/general/Honda_CR480_1982.jpg)
480
(http://i1201.photobucket.com/albums/bb347/dapaoli/E5623E4D-1001-462F-9638-C4F826F2315C-3387-000004040D5DCD20_zpsb033bfc8.jpg)
1974 or thereabouts Honda Elsinore 250
I found this cool article about. The 1986 RC 250 Factory bike. 1986 was the year the production rule went into effect and gone were the $200,000 Factory bikes.
It looks remarkably stock but has all sorts of trick features.
http://www.mxworksbike.com/RJ_1986250_1.htm (http://www.mxworksbike.com/RJ_1986250_1.htm)
Quote from: Mendo Dave on April 10, 2013, 06:20:31 PM
well I guess the company wasn't listening when it made bikes like these.
The Elsinore was Honda's first two stroke. Back in the day it was quite a revelation. Honda had spent millions and millions trying to prove the 4-stroke's superiority - 6 cylinder 250s etc. Soichiro had previously said "I will never build a noisy, dirty two stroke". The Elsinore was kind of like Mr. Honda's admission that he could not compete with his 4 strokes and Honda was forced to turn to the dark side lol.
http://articles.superhunky.com/4/138 (http://articles.superhunky.com/4/138)
Sidecars.
http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?client=mv-google&feature=related&v=wvc_PM7AsSs&rdm=mltlka3cp (http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?client=mv-google&feature=related&v=wvc_PM7AsSs&rdm=mltlka3cp)
Quote from: Skybarney on March 31, 2013, 04:38:40 PM
My second motorcycle was one of these with cafe bars. I did not take pics back then but found this online. Two stroke triple! It was tremendously quick, did not turn, did not stop. But it would rip your arms out of their sockets. Wish I still had it they only let 500 into the U.S. before the DOT told them "no more" as they were to fast for their weight class. Rode it 900 miles in one day once. Left a trail of blue smoke from Redding CA to Portland OR and back. Had to stop every fifty miles to get the feeling back in my hands and feet.
(http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f149/Skybarney/s1.jpg)
A buddy of mine died on a Kawi triple in the late '80s. :-\
Man, did that thing rip. [thumbsup]