This is the only time one can hope that the explosions were from some defective gas line or some other, non-terrorist, sort.
And if any of you have any friends or family there, I hope they're ok. :(
http://www.wcvb.com/news/local/metro/Explosions-reported-near-Boston-Marathon-finish-line/-/11971628/19757044/-/ktnc1wz/-/index.html?hpt=hp_t1 (http://www.wcvb.com/news/local/metro/Explosions-reported-near-Boston-Marathon-finish-line/-/11971628/19757044/-/ktnc1wz/-/index.html?hpt=hp_t1)
Three dead, no jokes for that one. How sad.
dolci's brother ( my soon to be brother in law ) finished the race almost an hour before this....he sent a message to his wife that he was moving away from the finish line when this happened...so as far as we know, he is okay.
Quote from: Skybarney on April 15, 2013, 03:34:26 PM
I know that this is not the time for jokes, people are injured, no fatalities reported so I am going for it.
I guess lil' Kim does have nukes........
At least three reported dead.
Gas Explosions that just so happen to go off At the finish line. :-\
Could only hope it was accidental.
Quote from: hbliam on April 15, 2013, 03:48:36 PM
At least three reported dead.
No good. I just saw some pics. Gory scene. Very sad.
News is saying that Boston PD just set off a third 'controlled' explosion.
Quote from: IZ on April 15, 2013, 03:48:56 PM
Gas Explosions that just so happen to go off At the finish line. :-\
Could only hope it was accidental.
I know, IZ.... I just want to be so hopeful (so ignorant, so "head in the sand").... :'(
Quote from: Skybarney on April 15, 2013, 04:08:43 PM
This is bad stuff. I was hoping to not give the DHS anymore reasons to cut into our freedoms. Pretty soon it is going to be "Papers Please" on the streets near any event.
Easy. You are gonna get the thread locked.
Life will be pretty interesting when we start getting suicide bombers here walking into crowds. Scary thought.
Just watched a clip of the runners go by as the bomb went off. One officer standing right there didn't even flinch.
Very sad.
It'll be interesting to see of this was a domestic or international act. :-\
WTF is wrong with people...seriously.
My hopes too were that is was an accident. Some how I knew that it was not. My head was pulled out about 6 years ago.
What makes me worried is that my little town is about to have 50 thousand or so people show up for a running event next month.
http://www.bloomsdayrun.org/ (http://www.bloomsdayrun.org/)
Prayers are sent for Boston.
spolic, yours thoughts bring me to the hope that there won't be an issue for when I run my 1st marathon this October...the Marine Corps Marathon...with the amount of military and potential brass for attendance...
Quote from: hbliam on April 15, 2013, 04:26:20 PM
Easy. You are gonna get the thread locked.
Bordering on Politics? Don't want to get a thread locked, I would feel like an idiot.
thankfully just got a message from my brother that he and his friend that also ran are both ok and they are headed to the airport - no idea if they'll get back to Savannah tonight or not, but they're going to try.
You must be incredibly relieved. Send our well wishes to him!
Quote from: Skybarney on April 15, 2013, 04:39:29 PM
Bordering on Politics? Don't want to get a thread locked, I would feel like an idiot.
You crossed the border brother.
the friend i just moved up there works a block or so away and was right in the area that one of them went off.
luckily for here and her co-worker, she hates crowds so they left about 30 min before it went off.
she is safe.
i can't watch the news anymore. i'll check it again later to get an update.
this is crazy.
Quote from: Skybarney on April 15, 2013, 04:08:43 PM
This is bad stuff. I was hoping to not give the DHS anymore reasons to cut into our freedoms. Pretty soon it is going to be "Papers Please" on the streets near any event.
Consider this your one and only warning.
Tragedies like this bring all sorts of emotions and scenarios to one's mind. It's human nature. We just don't go there on this forum.
My heart goes out to the loved ones of those killed and injured as well as the people that had to witness this madness.
Now the JFK library.
Quote from: ducpainter on April 15, 2013, 05:11:52 PM
Consider this your one and only warning.
Tragedies like this bring all sorts of emotions and scenarios to one's mind. It's human nature. We just don't go there on this forum.
My heart goes out to the loved ones of those killed and injured as well as the people that had to witness this madness.
Fair enough, I meant no disrespect so I removed the comment [beer]
Quote from: spolic on April 15, 2013, 05:17:43 PM
Now the JFK library.
No more. Please no more...
(Thankful I got in two hikes and two breweries with my boys yesterday and didn't get housework done.)
those who did this are COWARDS!!!!!!!!!! I hope they find the idiot(s) who did this horrible act. I can't say more for fear of locking the thread, suffice to say that they deserve what's coming to them.
^^^^^^ Yup!
( I am still figuring out the rules here as I nearly already said to much)
I feel for the people that got hurt in this attack. Makes me sad and angry all at the same time.
JFK library was just a fire.. coincidental accident.
I'm in lower NYC today.. most left for home all ready but you we're still on high alert it seems..
make the beast with two backs. My mornings are quiet, leisurely events. I only just heard this horrible news as I hopped in the car to head to work.
Thoughts with those affected by this pointless insanity.
Man
CNN says two confirmed killed. One was an 8 year old kid
:'(
fact life #1
there have always been, and will always be, predators and prey.
to think/wish/hope that we as a species will fix that, is wasted time. time better spent honoring the good among us.
my heart goes out to all who suffer at the hands of a predator.
Quote from: bobspapa on April 15, 2013, 08:16:47 PM
fact life #1
there have always been, and will always be, predators and prey.
to think/wish/hope that we as a species will fix that, is wasted time. time better spent honoring the good among us.
my heart goes out to all who suffer at the hands of a predator.
I think there is a difference between predators and cowards. These type of attacks are done by cowards. You don't like me? Stand in front of me and take your best shot .
Quote from: hbliam on April 15, 2013, 09:16:59 PM
I think there is a difference between predators and cowards. These type of attacks are done by cowards. You don't like me? Stand in front of me and take your best shot .
i agree that they are cowards, but they see themselves as preditors. imo
My prayers and thoughts go out to the victims and their families. :'(
I hadn't been watching the news simce earlier. Very sad
"death toll had risen to three.
Scores were injured at the scene.
One of the dead was an 8-year-old boy
at least 144 people are being treated
at least 17 of them in critical condition
25 in serious condition
At least 8 of the patients are children.
At least 10 people injured had limbs amputated
Several of the patients treated at Massachusetts General Hospital suffered injuries to lower limbs that will require "serial operations" in the coming days
Some injuries were so severe amputations were necessary" ~CNN
Would all of you Media 'experts' do me a favor and Shut the make the beast with two backs Up. [bang]
exactly.
whatever happened to reporting known facts.
reporting aint speculating.
I think we had this same discussion last December...
Quote from: bobspapa on April 18, 2013, 11:15:17 PM
exactly.
whatever happened to reporting known facts.
reporting aint speculating.
Quote from: kopfjäger on April 18, 2013, 10:36:04 PM
Would all of you Media 'experts' do me a favor and Shut the make the beast with two backs Up. [bang]
Even the Boston Police Commissioner put out incorrect information, and it would seem that he'd be a reputable source. Do you guys have some magic source for the facts? ;D
One cop dead, one suspect dead, one on the run
http://www.boston.com/ (http://www.boston.com/)
http://www.pressherald.com/news/AP-Suspect-is-19-year-old-Cambridge-man-from-Russia.html (http://www.pressherald.com/news/AP-Suspect-is-19-year-old-Cambridge-man-from-Russia.html)
WATERTOWN â€" Police have surrounded a home and car in Watertown, a community just outside Boston, as part of a massive manhunt for one of the suspects
http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2013/04/18/mit-police-officer-hit-gunfire-cambridge-police-dispatcher-says/4UeCClOVeLr8PHLvDa99zK/story.html (http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2013/04/18/mit-police-officer-hit-gunfire-cambridge-police-dispatcher-says/4UeCClOVeLr8PHLvDa99zK/story.html)
I hope they catch this other make the beast with two backshead alive. Maybe we can figure out who else was involved behind the scenes.
Figuring out who (if anyone) else was behind the scenes is the only reason I see for the other guy to exist. Otherwise, game over.
How the hell did he get away??
[bang] [bang] [bang]
Looks like they might have him....
http://www.boston.com/metrodesk/2013/04/18/mit-police-officer-hit-gunfire-cambridge-police-dispatcher-says/UAbtwLVGLwBE5VI7BUyQuL/story.html (http://www.boston.com/metrodesk/2013/04/18/mit-police-officer-hit-gunfire-cambridge-police-dispatcher-says/UAbtwLVGLwBE5VI7BUyQuL/story.html)
Quote from: rgramjet on April 19, 2013, 06:53:22 PM
How the hell did he get away??
[bang] [bang] [bang]
Ever been in a foot pursuit of an armed, possibly wearing suicide vest, suspect?
I haven't, have you?
Quote from: rgramjet on April 19, 2013, 08:14:13 PM
I haven't, have you?
Not the suicide vest part but the rest of it.
It's not safe to chase armed suspects around corners or over fences. That's Hollywood. You set up a perimeter and methodically search. Just like these guys are doing.
In custody.
http://live.boston.com/Event/Live_blog_Explosion_in_Copley_Square (http://live.boston.com/Event/Live_blog_Explosion_in_Copley_Square)
The blog on the rt of the page, but no official word I can find
Quote from: Ddan on April 19, 2013, 08:49:29 PM
http://live.boston.com/Event/Live_blog_Explosion_in_Copley_Square (http://live.boston.com/Event/Live_blog_Explosion_in_Copley_Square)
The blog on the rt of the page, but no official word I can find
There's a post on the page from the Boston pd.
TwitterBoston Police Dept. @Boston_Police
Suspect in custody. Officers sweeping the area. Stand by for further info.
8.32: The Czech embassy in the United States has moved to clarify a "most unfortunate misunderstanding" on social media.
It wants people to know the Czech Republic is not the same as Chechnya, where the suspected bombers are from
[roll]
Quote from: brimo on April 19, 2013, 09:36:32 PM
8.32: The Czech embassy in the United States has moved to clarify a "most unfortunate misunderstanding" on social media.
It wants people to know the Czech Republic is not the same as Chechnya, where the suspected bombers are from
[roll]
Well they know how stupid we are.
People are cheering in the street... there are still broken people. That 8 year old boy waiting for his daddy. I am glad its over but i can't cheer.
2 dudes...2 caused all this. Not sure the number of folks it took to bring it to and end, but 2 dudes did a lot of damage. Oh wait the Boss is speaking.
I'm headed to Beantown in a few weeks with a bunch on our top salespeople and managers.
We're going to be spending a lot of money and having a good time.
Quote from: Randimus Maximus on April 19, 2013, 10:10:22 PM
I'm headed to Beantown in a few weeks with a bunch on our top salespeople and managers.
We're going to be spending a lot of money and having a good time.
Hit a Bruins game.
So glad it is over! Their apartment in Cambridge is only 3 blocks from me and I have a several friends in Watertown who were under lockdown all day today, a couple of whom live within a few streets of where he was caught tonight.
it aint over.
[bang] [bang] [bang] [bang]
USA USA USA ... Seriously.. are you kidding me.
and that's one of the reasons this ain't over.
the brothers will be seen as heros in certain circles, and see'n how they shut a city down, they will have inspired those within the afore mentioned circles to give it the ol college try too.
There is nothing to cheer about
monsters live among us
and our media celebrates them
Quote from: RAT900 on April 20, 2013, 06:45:55 AM
There is nothing to cheer about
monsters live among us
and our media celebrates them
Yep, there are monsters, but there are also ordinary people who are willing to do what they can to stop them. We can't forget the pain but we also can't ignore the good. It's the only way we keep the monsters from winning.
I think you're missing RAT's point.
Quote from: ducpainter on April 20, 2013, 07:30:17 AM
I think you're missing RAT's point.
There is reason to celebrate.
Have at it.
If you want to celebrate you can.
I'm with RAT...
there is very little to cheer about.
I don't think the spontaneous cheering by people in the streets was a bad thing. One big sigh of relief. It's not like it was a scheduled ticker tape parade with waving mayors. Just a large group of people who had an evil muther f-er in their midst. Ding dong the witch is dead kind of moment.
I hope much info is gathered from that POS.
Quote from: RAT900 on April 20, 2013, 06:45:55 AM
There is nothing to cheer about
monsters live among us
and our media celebrates them
Yes.
Quote from: RAT900 on April 20, 2013, 06:45:55 AM
There is nothing to cheer about
monsters live among us
and our media celebrates them
+1 about the talking heads
Quote from: rgramjet on April 20, 2013, 08:19:27 AMDing dong the witch is dead kind of moment.
Unfortunately the witch is never dead.
But hopefully some closure can occur for this particular evil spell.
The cheering does seem quite out of place, but as previously stated, is most likely a spontaneous occurance of pride about the Boston PD. The only good that can come from this miserable waste of air living is that they may be able to get info from him to prevent future bombings.
When I first heard they were Russian, I was thinking maybe some kind of crazy Russian mob hit. It now appears that their motives were simply anti westerner. Damn scum. If they don't like it here, maybe they should have enjoyed their life in Chechnya for longer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7GasFcXnfg&feature=youtube_gdata_player (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7GasFcXnfg&feature=youtube_gdata_player)
http://rt.com/usa/tsarnaev-brothers-parents-innocent-124/ (http://rt.com/usa/tsarnaev-brothers-parents-innocent-124/)
Not saying its true but you gotta wonder...
People cheering after being locked down and turning into a "war zone"... ah a sheep...
Quote from: cokey on April 20, 2013, 10:22:36 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7GasFcXnfg&feature=youtube_gdata_player (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7GasFcXnfg&feature=youtube_gdata_player)
http://rt.com/usa/tsarnaev-brothers-parents-innocent-124/ (http://rt.com/usa/tsarnaev-brothers-parents-innocent-124/)
Not saying its true but you gotta wonder...
Why do you have to wonder? Parents thinking their kids are too angelic to be criminals is a revelation?
If I've seen it once, I've seen it a thousand times: "my _ is a good boy, he didn't kill nobody"
rumor is coming out that the FBI had this family under watch due to a tip off from a 'foreign' agency.
sounds like another intel failure if that's the case
oh. and foreign agency... think Chechnya muslim terrorist and you'll figure out who had them under watch.
Im going to have to watch the last couple of days of News when I get back. Im glad they got both of them, one way or the other.
Shoot at cops, get caught on video and you deserve to die. Were it me I would not have had such a huge scene around the boat when a HOMEOWNER (not 9000 LEO's) found him. I would have had a dozen guys with guns and a gas can. As I was pouring the gasoline around and on the boat I would calmly say "Better give up" He would either toss out his gun and give up or save the taxpayers a lot of cash.....
I suppose the take him alive bit is going to upset the conspiracy crowd. Sometimes it is nothing more than a pissed off very angry human that causes problems. :'(
Oh I'm not saying people always think their kids are angels... I grew up in the ghetto... I know about bad kids/people.. but if the FBI did have them under servalance, they need to fire that team to let them bomb a marathon.
Quote from: Skybarney on April 20, 2013, 05:01:45 PM
I would have had a dozen guys with guns and a gas can. As I was pouring the gasoline around and on the boat I would calmly say "Better give up" He would either toss out his gun and give up or save the taxpayers a lot of cash.....
[roll]
It would have been great if Asshole #2 had happened to try to commandeer some residence and was taken out by the homeowner.....with an AR15 with a high-capacity magazine.
But we would have never heard that story.
For the record...this thread has passed it's 3/4 life.
Keep it up. [roll]
Different perspective.
here (http://www.esquire.com/blogs/culture/lust-during-wartime)
(http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/dam/assets/130420120408-02-boston-celebrates-0420-horizontal-gallery.jpg)
In my old age I have come to believe that murderous intent and rage pre-exist in some folks,,,,the capacity is already there primed and set to blow
and the only thing left is for a given individual to manufacture a reason to exercise that murderous intent and rage.
Savagery and animal behavior are already in place and escalating and the person consciously attaches that raw ugliness to some intellectual notion or excuse or "justification"
its as simple banal and repugnant a premise as "misery loves company"
I don't think a lot of genocide types have ever come out and said...I killed 1-11ty billion people because I thought it would make me feel better when in fact that is probably closer to the truth
Quote from: RAT900 on April 22, 2013, 08:03:08 AM
In my old age I have come to believe that murderous intent and rage pre-exist in some folks,,,,the capacity is already there primed and set to blow
and the only thing left is for a given individual to manufacture a reason to exercise that murderous intent and rage.
Savagery and animal behavior are already in place and escalating and the person consciously attaches that raw ugliness to some intellectual notion or excuse or "justification"
its as simple banal and repugnant a premise as "misery loves company"
I don't think a lot of genocide types have ever come out and said...I killed 1-11ty billion people because I thought it would make me feel better when in fact that is probably closer to the truth
I think you're on to something, but like anything, it can be conditioned out of someone, or a population.
Feed someone a steady diet of "you've been cheated", "it's not fair" and "those people are the cause of your problems" and all of a sudden, you have a very self-confirmed conclusion. He could be rich or poor or educated or a moron -- if the individual believes their problems exist because of someone/thing else, they'll attack it.
Utter lack of self-awareness and responsibility -- it can be taught, and passed thru generations.
Quote from: ducatiz on April 22, 2013, 09:51:09 AM
I think you're on to something, but like anything, it can be conditioned out of someone, or a population.
Feed someone a steady diet of "you've been cheated", "it's not fair" and "those people are the cause of your problems" and all of a sudden, you have a very self-confirmed conclusion. He could be rich or poor or educated or a moron -- if the individual believes their problems exist because of someone/thing else, they'll attack it.
Utter lack of self-awareness and responsibility -- it can be taught, and passed thru generations.
Very well said [thumbsup]
Propaganda and indoctrination
Quote from: swampduc on April 22, 2013, 12:50:11 PM
Very well said [thumbsup]
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Quote from: howie on April 22, 2013, 03:58:16 PM
[thumbsup] [thumbsup] [thumbsup]
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True dat.
Quote from: cokey on April 20, 2013, 10:24:03 AM
People cheering after being locked down and turning into a "war zone"... ah a sheep...
^ this.
Ending this on most of the final positive notes above.
Again, well wishes to all effected.