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Title: I pitty the foo
Post by: Grampa on May 12, 2013, 06:15:08 PM
who has to be tried with me on his/her jury.


[evil]

guess what im doing tomorrow.
Title: Re: I pitty the foo
Post by: ducpainter on May 12, 2013, 06:39:11 PM
playing cards?
Title: Re: I pitty the foo
Post by: Grampa on May 12, 2013, 06:49:52 PM
naaaa....I'm taking a book with me.
Title: Re: I pitty the foo
Post by: hbliam on May 12, 2013, 06:57:34 PM
It would be interesting to actually be on a jury. I'll likely never have that experience.
Title: Re: I pitty the foo
Post by: somegirl on May 12, 2013, 07:02:36 PM
I was just rejected by a defense attorney last week.
Title: Re: I pitty the foo
Post by: Grampa on May 12, 2013, 08:34:33 PM
i made it on one once, but the city dropped it's case against the guy during the second day of the trial.


I'd like to see one through all the way.
Title: Re: I pitty the foo
Post by: LowThudd on May 12, 2013, 09:55:39 PM
I was on a criminal jury. Very rewarding experience. Somewhat frustrating too. Some of the instructions made it confusing. We were ordered to only listen to how the translator stated the translation of a spanish speaking witness' statement, but even I understood spanish enough, as well as the native speakers on the jury, that the translator was incorrect in some of his translation. At the end of the day, it was a moot point, but did cause some confusion.

All in all, got to help put away a life long crim and three striker. He had been in jail for the majority of his life, since he almost beat a bunch of people to death when he was 17. He will no longer be a problem for those outside of jail.

Very interesting process, once on a jury. Certainly not boring.
Title: Re: I pitty the foo
Post by: Slide Panda on May 13, 2013, 05:37:55 AM
Quote from: bobspapa on May 12, 2013, 06:15:08 PM
guess what im doing tomorrow.

Getting sent home...
Title: Re: I pitty the foo
Post by: Grampa on May 13, 2013, 07:37:36 AM
just checked in...... where do they keep the pitch forks and nooses?
Title: Re: I pitty the foo
Post by: ZLTFUL on May 13, 2013, 08:20:01 AM
I found that the most effective way to get out of jury duty is to wear your "White Flour" t-shirt.

Of course, having a last name starting with W, they never even made it to me in the selection process...it was a child pornography case and the guy was in his late 60s...pretty sure I was going to dick punch him out of principles...
Title: Re: I pitty the foo
Post by: Uncle Mofo on May 13, 2013, 08:22:43 AM
Quote from: hbliam on May 12, 2013, 06:57:34 PM
It would be interesting to actually be on a jury. I'll likely never have that experience.
I was picked in a civil case last year. 
Title: Re: I pitty the foo
Post by: Grampa on May 13, 2013, 08:35:37 AM
Quote from: ZILBERT on May 13, 2013, 08:20:01 AM
I found that the most effective way to get out of jury duty is to wear your "White Flour" t-shirt.

Of course, having a last name starting with W, they never even made it to me in the selection process...it was a child pornography case and the guy was in his late 60s...pretty sure I was going to dick punch him out of principles...

(http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t180/bobspapa/IMG_20130513_083103_000.jpg)

I'm hoping my reading material may get me excused.

;D
Title: Re: I pitty the foo
Post by: ducatiz on May 13, 2013, 08:43:18 AM
If everyone with good sense gets themselves kicked off jury duty, then those people need to remember to STFU when a jury does something idiotic.

Just sayin'
Title: Re: I pitty the foo
Post by: LowThudd on May 13, 2013, 09:08:50 AM
Quote from: ducatiz on May 13, 2013, 08:43:18 AM
If everyone with good sense gets themselves kicked off jury duty, then those people need to remember to STFU when a jury does something idiotic.

Just sayin'

Yuppers!
Title: Re: I pitty the foo
Post by: somegirl on May 13, 2013, 10:08:43 AM
Quote from: ducatiz on May 13, 2013, 08:43:18 AM
If everyone with good sense gets themselves kicked off jury duty, then those people need to remember to STFU when a jury does something idiotic.

Just sayin'

Agreed but it seemed like in the case I was in the pool for, the attorneys did not want anyone highly educated particularly scientists. :-\
Title: Re: I pitty the foo
Post by: Grampa on May 13, 2013, 10:17:32 AM
well...if i end up in a courtroom where they need and old white guy versed in buffoonery.... i shall fill a seat.

;D
Title: Re: I pitty the foo
Post by: LowThudd on May 13, 2013, 10:23:15 AM
That actually IS who they want(white not necessary). They want people who can follow the judges instrctions, and not interperate anything on their own. They simply want people to apply the court rules/law to the evidence and make rational conclusions based only on evidence/testimony.
Title: Re: I pitty the foo
Post by: ducatiz on May 13, 2013, 11:37:49 AM
Quote from: somegirl on May 13, 2013, 10:08:43 AM
Agreed but it seemed like in the case I was in the pool for, the attorneys did not want anyone highly educated particularly scientists. :-\

They never do, you will cause trouble by thinkin'
Title: Re: I pitty the foo
Post by: LowThudd on May 13, 2013, 11:51:20 AM
That, and you've probably watched every episode of CSI. lol
Title: Re: I pitty the foo
Post by: rgramjet on May 13, 2013, 12:55:55 PM
http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=_MFebZlUJ7E&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D_MFebZlUJ7E (http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=_MFebZlUJ7E&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D_MFebZlUJ7E)
Title: Re: I pitty the foo
Post by: Triple J on May 13, 2013, 01:08:19 PM
Quote from: ducatiz on May 13, 2013, 08:43:18 AM
If everyone with good sense gets themselves kicked off jury duty, then those people need to remember to STFU when a jury does something idiotic.


+1

Quote from: somegirl on May 13, 2013, 10:08:43 AM
Agreed but it seemed like in the case I was in the pool for, the attorneys did not want anyone highly educated particularly scientists. :-\

+1

I'm always dismissed straight away (engineer - dismissed 3 times). It would make sense that lawyers want people who can be swayed by arguments, not people that can look at facts objectively to develop a conclusion. Probably not all lawyers, and I'm sure it depends on the case...that's just the impression I got.

I also think it would be very interesting to be on a jury. Watching a good lawyer is very entertaining. I've been in a couple construction claims mediations, and it was fun to watch the two sides battle it out.  [thumbsup]
Title: Re: I pitty the foo
Post by: LowThudd on May 13, 2013, 01:22:09 PM
Quote from: Triple J on May 13, 2013, 01:08:19 PM

I also think it would be very interesting to be on a jury. Watching a good lawyer is very entertaining. I've been in a couple construction claims mediations, and it was fun to watch the two sides battle it out.  [thumbsup]

Unfortunately the case I was a juror for, not much wiggle room for the defence. With two solid witnesses, police testimony, On-Star recordings, firearm evidence, fingerprints, truck crash into side of house while being pursued and on scene police testimony; about the only thing the lawyer could do for his client was ask for evidence to be excluded, then ask for leniency. Not gonna happen in this case. It was a hell of alot more interesting than being an "Armchair" juror watching court TV or crime drama.
Title: Re: I pitty the foo
Post by: Grampa on May 13, 2013, 02:04:41 PM
it's 2pm and onlyone pool group has goneout. most have returned. it's not looking good in regards to being picked for something.
Title: Re: I pitty the foo
Post by: Grampa on May 13, 2013, 02:58:13 PM
second group out....still not picked.



nobody loves me.
Title: Re: I pitty the foo
Post by: krolik on May 13, 2013, 06:52:51 PM
Quote from: bobspapa on May 13, 2013, 02:58:13 PM
second group out....still not picked.



nobody loves me.

& you smell funny.



;D
Title: Re: I pitty the foo
Post by: Bladecutter on May 13, 2013, 07:56:06 PM
If you really want to be picked, just tell the judge that you think this is a major waste of your time, and you have much more important things to do, making real money at your real job, than you can sitting here with your thumbs up his butt. Then mention that when you were coming in, you saw a Mercedes with 4 flat tires, and two busted windows.

BC.
Title: Re: I pitty the foo
Post by: Grampa on May 13, 2013, 08:26:24 PM
being picked will have to wait another year.
Title: Re: I pitty the foo
Post by: WarrenJ on May 14, 2013, 06:46:22 AM
I was traveling on business for two iterations of jury selection so when I finally showed up for the jury pool, I was the first name called.  Ended up being jury foreman for a two day trial.  It was frustrating and interesting - glad I went through it.  If you want out, just mention that you are an informed jurist, you will probably never be asked back.
Title: Re: I pitty the foo
Post by: JoeP on May 14, 2013, 07:04:22 AM
Quote from: somegirl on May 13, 2013, 10:08:43 AM
...particularly scientists. :-\

My only time at jury duty I was questioned because I said I studied plasma physics. Lawyer had to make sure that I wasn't an expert on *blood*, probably so I wouldn't be too critical of the forensic evidence.
Title: Re: I pitty the foo
Post by: ducatiz on May 14, 2013, 10:19:02 AM
Quote from: WarrenJ on May 14, 2013, 06:46:22 AM
I was traveling on business for two iterations of jury selection so when I finally showed up for the jury pool, I was the first name called.  Ended up being jury foreman for a two day trial.  It was frustrating and interesting - glad I went through it.  If you want out, just mention that you are an informed jurist, you will probably never be asked back.


If you're an informed jurist, you should definitely remain in.  Part of the problem with our legal system is that all the intelligent, informed people try to get out of jury duty and we're left with the make the beast with two backsing morons making decisions about life and death and our rights.
Title: Re: I pitty the foo
Post by: LowThudd on May 14, 2013, 10:21:46 AM
Ever see the movie "Idiocracy"?

There is the problem right there. lol
Title: Re: I pitty the foo
Post by: ducatiz on May 14, 2013, 10:22:42 AM
Quote from: LowThudd on May 14, 2013, 10:21:46 AM
Ever see the movie "Idiocracy"?

There is the problem right there. lol

yes, and the good people enable it by opting out of jury duty... and reproducing.