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Title: Survival kit
Post by: IZ on May 28, 2013, 09:17:56 AM
http://www.rei.com/product/708135/adventure-medical-kits-pocket-survival-pak (http://www.rei.com/product/708135/adventure-medical-kits-pocket-survival-pak)

I bought one of these yesterday to keep in my life jacket (NRS CVest) and Kreiga Camelback along with my knife, multi-tool and an emergency blanket.

Description of kit:

Waterproof and re-sealable and contains 27 items that may assist in your rescue and add comfort while you wait.

Contains: Rescue Flash signal mirror, Spark-Lite Tinder-Quick waterproof fire starter, Fox 40 Howler whistle, compass, 50 ft. of heavy-duty thread, sewing needle, 4 safety pins, 2 in. x 26 in. duct tape, 10 ft. braided twine, 6 ft. stainless-steel wire, heavy-duty aluminum foil, pencil, waterproof note paper, sharp scalpel blade, 4 fish hooks, 1 snap swivel (size 12) and 2 split shot lead weights, also includes a contents list, detailed instructions and Fresnel magnifier for reading detailed instructions.

I'm adding a few meds, water purifying tablets and band-aides.   

Any other must haves you all can think of to add to a minimalist survival kit?
Title: Re: Survival kit
Post by: zooom on May 28, 2013, 09:29:31 AM
depends on how you define "minimalist" and where you draw the line in/on limitation?
Title: Re: Survival kit
Post by: Grampa on May 28, 2013, 10:05:01 AM
like you would stay in one place long enough to be found   ;)
Title: Re: Survival kit
Post by: IZ on May 28, 2013, 10:58:27 AM
Quote from: bobspapa on May 28, 2013, 10:05:01 AM
like you would stay in one place long enough to be found   ;)

[laugh]
Title: Re: Survival kit
Post by: WarrenJ on May 28, 2013, 11:05:17 AM
Maybe some alcohol wipes, providone iodine, vet wrap, small set of surgical cut anything shears, asprin, neosporin....
Title: Re: Survival kit
Post by: IZ on May 28, 2013, 11:32:42 AM
Z, least amount of weight of space!  It will be used mostly hiking and kayaking.    

What else can you think of that I can fit in the small, waterproof bag once I take out the whistle?  

Here's my PFD..
(http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa14/akido10/NRSCVestandCoPilot.jpg)

REI description.. http://www.rei.com/product/832799/nrs-cvest-pfd (http://www.rei.com/product/832799/nrs-cvest-pfd)  

In the Kriega, it will be carried in my Kube pocket or US 5.  

I don't expect I'll ever need to use all the items but it's obviously good to have them just in case.  My first week kayaking last year, I got a nasty cut after I accidentally kicked a rusty bolt sticking out of the dock.  Of course, I wasn't prepared for it.  
Title: Re: Survival kit
Post by: IZ on May 28, 2013, 11:41:34 AM
Quote from: WarrenJ on May 28, 2013, 11:05:17 AM
Maybe some alcohol wipes, providone iodine, vet wrap, small set of surgical cut anything shears, asprin, neosporin....

Yes, a few things I forgot.  I have a ton of these items in the emergency kit out in the garage.   Thanks   [thumbsup]   
Title: Re: Survival kit
Post by: sno_duc on May 28, 2013, 11:43:04 AM
Super Glue, both for repairing gear and for fixing nasty cuts.
Compass and typo map of the area would be nice. (as much as I like battery operated toys, like GPS, batteries have a way of failing at the worst possible time)
I would also add the US Airforce survial manual, in a baggie to keep it dry.
http://www.amazon.com/U-S-Air-Force-Survival-Handbook/dp/1607964031/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1369766421&sr=8-1&keywords=airforce+survival+manual (http://www.amazon.com/U-S-Air-Force-Survival-Handbook/dp/1607964031/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1369766421&sr=8-1&keywords=airforce+survival+manual)
Title: Re: Survival kit
Post by: LowThudd on May 28, 2013, 11:47:16 AM
Duct Tape!!
Title: Re: Survival kit
Post by: duccarlos on May 28, 2013, 11:51:24 AM
WD40?
Title: Re: Survival kit
Post by: duccarlos on May 28, 2013, 12:00:40 PM
(http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll67/cjhernan/v3-amused-_img-engineering-flowchart.jpg) (http://s285.photobucket.com/user/cjhernan/media/v3-amused-_img-engineering-flowchart.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Survival kit
Post by: zooom on May 28, 2013, 12:02:52 PM
KY Jelly in the single serving packets
Baby Wipes
Nitrile surgical gloves
Title: Re: Survival kit
Post by: IZ on May 28, 2013, 12:20:07 PM
Quote from: sno_duc on May 28, 2013, 11:43:04 AM
Super Glue, both for repairing gear and for fixing nasty cuts.
Compass and typo map of the area would be nice. (as much as I like battery operated toys, like GPS, batteries have a way of failing at the worst possible time)
I would also add the US Airforce survial manual, in a baggie to keep it dry.
http://www.amazon.com/U-S-Air-Force-Survival-Handbook/dp/1607964031/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1369766421&sr=8-1&keywords=airforce+survival+manual (http://www.amazon.com/U-S-Air-Force-Survival-Handbook/dp/1607964031/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1369766421&sr=8-1&keywords=airforce+survival+manual)

"16 new from $15.19     6 used from $19.22"   ???

Product Dimensions: 7.4 x 1.2 x 9.7 inches and 2.2lbs.  
Is there a mini version?  (shut up Bobspapa)  >:(

The kit already comes with tips for basic survival.  Plus, I keep the SAS survival handbook in the kayak's hatch when I'm on the water.    

I just used superglue to hold all my finger tips together after this last move.  That cardboard really does a number on dry hands!! [thumbsup]

Have mini compass already in life jacket.

Need SoCal map!!  
Title: Re: Survival kit
Post by: IZ on May 28, 2013, 12:23:32 PM
Quote from: zooom on May 28, 2013, 12:02:52 PM
KY Jelly in the single serving packets
Baby Wipes
Nitrile surgical gloves

Have plenty of baby wipes on hand and surgical gloves in my mobile office.  Will add them.  [thumbsup]   

KY?

Need 2 mini duct tape rolls
Title: Re: Survival kit
Post by: IZ on May 28, 2013, 12:24:59 PM
Quote from: duccarlos on May 28, 2013, 12:00:40 PM
(http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll67/cjhernan/v3-amused-_img-engineering-flowchart.jpg) (http://s285.photobucket.com/user/cjhernan/media/v3-amused-_img-engineering-flowchart.jpg.html)

[laugh]
Title: Re: Survival kit
Post by: IZ on May 28, 2013, 12:28:30 PM
Can the WD be substituted by KY?
Title: Re: Survival kit
Post by: rgramjet on May 28, 2013, 12:34:31 PM
Quick Clot
Title: Re: Survival kit
Post by: zooom on May 28, 2013, 12:51:22 PM
a 1 pint flask of vodka
Title: Re: Survival kit
Post by: LowThudd on May 28, 2013, 01:09:32 PM
Quote from: zooom on May 28, 2013, 12:51:22 PM
a 1 pint flask of vodka

Polish Spiritus. 96% pure grain alcohol. If in SoCal, Jons Market stocks it.
Title: Re: Survival kit
Post by: IZ on May 28, 2013, 01:35:54 PM
Quote from: LowThudd on May 28, 2013, 01:09:32 PM
Polish Spiritus. 96% pure grain alcohol. If in SoCal, Jons Market stocks it.

In Irvine.  There's one in Dana Point. Going there this weekend.  [thumbsup]
Title: Re: Survival kit
Post by: LowThudd on May 28, 2013, 01:39:11 PM
Quote from: IZ on May 28, 2013, 01:35:54 PM
In Irvine.  There's one in Dana Point. Going there this weekend.  [thumbsup]

Drink with caution. That stuff is no joke!
Title: Re: Survival kit
Post by: ZLTFUL on May 28, 2013, 01:51:43 PM
I think everyone who has posted so far is mosting the most important part of this post...

Who took the picture for you? I can actually tell what that thing is so it was obviously not you.  [cheeky]
Title: Re: Survival kit
Post by: IZ on May 28, 2013, 02:01:11 PM
Quote from: ZILBERT on May 28, 2013, 01:51:43 PM
I think everyone who has posted so far is mosting the most important part of this post...

Who took the picture for you? I can actually tell what that thing is so it was obviously not you.  [cheeky]

I think everyone who has posted so far is asking wtf does "mosting the most" mean?! [cheeky]
Title: Re: Survival kit
Post by: NAKID on May 28, 2013, 02:15:37 PM
Quote from: IZ on May 28, 2013, 01:35:54 PM
In Irvine.  There's one in Dana Point. Going there this weekend.  [thumbsup]

Then you'll have to stop by, I'm 2 seconds away from Dana Point...
Title: Re: Survival kit
Post by: IZ on May 28, 2013, 02:19:30 PM
Quote from: NAKID on May 28, 2013, 02:15:37 PM
Then you'll have to stop by, I'm 2 seconds away from Dana Point...

Son's bday this weekend.  Next time.  I know it's close since we were just down by DP yesterday.
Title: Re: Survival kit
Post by: sno_duc on May 28, 2013, 06:33:46 PM
Quote from: IZ on May 28, 2013, 02:01:11 PM
I think everyone who has posted so far is asking wtf does "mosting the most" mean?! [cheeky]
"Mosting the most" means "missing the most", kinda like your photography his typing requires using your imagination to fill in the IZ_ spots.  ;)
Title: Re: Survival kit
Post by: IZ on May 28, 2013, 07:23:04 PM
 [cheeky] [laugh]
Title: Re: Survival kit
Post by: kopfjäger on May 28, 2013, 07:42:54 PM
One handed tourniquet.

Trauma shears.
Title: Re: Survival kit
Post by: LowThudd on May 28, 2013, 09:22:29 PM
A cable saw: http://www.practicalsurvivor.com/survivalsaws (http://www.practicalsurvivor.com/survivalsaws)
Title: Re: Survival kit
Post by: IZ on May 28, 2013, 09:29:44 PM
Quote from: LowThudd on May 28, 2013, 09:22:29 PM
A cable saw: http://www.practicalsurvivor.com/survivalsaws (http://www.practicalsurvivor.com/survivalsaws)

Was looking at these at REI.  Will pick one up for my dual-sport survival kit.   [thumbsup]


One hand tourniquet too
Title: Re: Survival kit
Post by: NAKID on May 28, 2013, 09:45:08 PM
Quote from: IZ on May 28, 2013, 09:29:44 PM
Was looking at these at REI.  Will pick one up for my dual-sport survival kit.   [thumbsup]


One hand tourniquet too

http://www.officersurvival.org/collections/cat-tourniquet-supplies/products/combat-application-tourniquet (http://www.officersurvival.org/collections/cat-tourniquet-supplies/products/combat-application-tourniquet)

Created by a Navy Corpsman...
Title: Re: Survival kit
Post by: rgramjet on May 29, 2013, 02:58:42 AM
Don't forget the Tussin!  Put that Shit on everything!
Title: Re: Survival kit
Post by: WarrenJ on May 29, 2013, 05:55:20 AM
Those trauma shears Headhunter mentioned are super.  Countycom makes a downsized pair of them that is still excellent if space is a consideration, but their fullsize ones are awesome. 
Title: Re: Survival kit
Post by: ZLTFUL on May 29, 2013, 09:24:29 AM
Quote from: sno_duc on May 28, 2013, 06:33:46 PM
"Mosting the most" means "missing the most", kinda like your photography his typing requires using your imagination to fill in the IZ_ spots.  ;)

Must to reiterate.


;D [cheeky]
Title: Re: Survival kit
Post by: zooom on May 29, 2013, 10:06:57 AM
we are missing one of the most useful things that no has mentioned yet....



zipties !!!
Title: Re: Survival kit
Post by: IZ on May 29, 2013, 12:00:43 PM
Quote from: zooom on May 29, 2013, 10:06:57 AM
we are missing one of the most useful things that no has mentioned yet....



zipties !!!

Yes!

Always had those in each of my Ducs.  Learned the hard way after doing tail chop and relocating plate.  Crunched it 2 x's.  Couple of zip ties work nicely to hold the plate on until you get home.  Had to attach it to backpack the second time. 
Title: Re: Survival kit
Post by: cokey on May 29, 2013, 08:10:23 PM
http://walmart.com/m/phoenix;jsessionid=805A06A55387A2A186BB12D53FFD90EF (http://walmart.com/m/phoenix;jsessionid=805A06A55387A2A186BB12D53FFD90EF)
Title: Re: Survival kit
Post by: Wrekz on May 29, 2013, 09:29:47 PM
Not sure how familiar you are with the use of all of the survival gear, but knowledge is more important than the gear. The handbooks are really helpful, but trying to read up on how to use (insert gear here) in the moment isn't ideal.

Be familiar with everything you carry prior to needing it.
Title: Re: Survival kit
Post by: WarrenJ on May 30, 2013, 07:29:53 AM
Quote from: Wrekz on May 29, 2013, 09:29:47 PM
Not sure how familiar you are with the use of all of the survival gear, but knowledge is more important than the gear. The handbooks are really helpful, but trying to read up on how to use (insert gear here) in the moment isn't ideal.

Be familiar with everything you carry prior to needing it.

Best Advice Here!
Title: Re: Survival kit
Post by: IZ on May 30, 2013, 07:46:53 AM
Quote from: Wrekz on May 29, 2013, 09:29:47 PM
Not sure how familiar you are with the use of all of the survival gear, but knowledge is more important than the gear. The handbooks are really helpful, but trying to read up on how to use (insert gear here) in the moment isn't ideal.

Be familiar with everything you carry prior to needing it.

[thumbsup]
Right!
Title: Re: Survival kit
Post by: sno_duc on May 30, 2013, 08:10:00 AM
I agree.
However when dealing with plants, I'd like to have the reference book (survial manual) in hand.
The time to find out that a particular plant or berry is poisonous is before you wolf down a big handful.
2 lbs of food even dehy will last a couple of days, a 2lb survial manual will allow you to safely eat local flora for weeks.
Title: Re: Survival kit
Post by: Wrekz on May 30, 2013, 10:07:42 AM
Good call.  I'm pretty confident with the gear that I carry, but without a field guide, my plant identification is a little lacking. 
Title: Re: Survival kit
Post by: muskrat on May 30, 2013, 10:29:51 AM
is this survival kit dual purpose?  If the Zombie apocalypse happens you're screwed so carry some ammo.... [evil]
Title: Re: Survival kit
Post by: IZ on May 30, 2013, 12:27:39 PM
Does that fit in the water proof bag provided?! 
Title: Re: Survival kit
Post by: NAKID on May 30, 2013, 12:30:26 PM
Quote from: IZ on May 30, 2013, 12:27:39 PM
Does that fit in the water proof bag provided?! 

Ziplock....
Title: Re: Survival kit
Post by: fastwin on May 30, 2013, 05:42:08 PM
Quote from: zooom on May 29, 2013, 10:06:57 AM
we are missing one of the most useful things that no has mentioned yet....



zipties !!!

^ what he said!! hard to say which is better... duct tape or zip ties. screw it, carry both!
Title: Re: Survival kit
Post by: muskrat on May 30, 2013, 07:12:34 PM
Quote from: IZ on May 30, 2013, 12:27:39 PM
Does that fit in the water proof bag provided?! 
no matter they are illegal in cali.  :-X
Title: Re: Survival kit
Post by: cokey on May 30, 2013, 07:43:29 PM
2 lbs of food is 2 meals for me..  SHTF, I'm dropping 20lbs in a week..  knowledge is key.. 
Title: Re: Survival kit
Post by: LowThudd on May 30, 2013, 08:33:24 PM
Quote from: cokey on May 30, 2013, 07:43:29 PM
2 lbs of food is 2 meals for me..  SHTF, I'm dropping 20lbs in a week..  knowledge is key.. 

2 pounds dehydrated. Add about a gallon per pound to rehydrate. 20 pounds.
Title: Re: Survival kit
Post by: IZ on May 30, 2013, 09:00:07 PM
Quote from: muskrat on May 30, 2013, 07:12:34 PM
no matter they are illegal in cali.  :-X

You guys already have your little toy thread anyway.
Title: Re: Survival kit
Post by: muskrat on May 30, 2013, 09:53:15 PM
you mean safe and "other" things scattered throughout for the "bug-out" trip.  [laugh]
Title: Re: Survival kit
Post by: LowThudd on May 31, 2013, 03:28:54 PM
I can't believe that no one(including myself) didn't bring up ferro rods(or magnesium/flint bar). Absolute must have. Can even make fire when wet. Hexamine fuel tablets are cool too.
Title: Re: Survival kit
Post by: IZ on May 31, 2013, 07:02:37 PM
Fire starter already included in kit. Was thinking about getting a magnesium bar though to add as well.
Title: Re: Survival kit
Post by: IZ on May 31, 2013, 07:09:11 PM
Hmmm..may have to market it as the "DMF Motorcyclist Survival Kit".

Small enough Kit that fits in the trunk of bike.  Waterproof bag with DMF or logo.  [thumbsup]
Title: Re: Survival kit
Post by: sno_duc on June 01, 2013, 03:06:35 PM
Quote from: IZ on May 31, 2013, 07:09:11 PM
Hmmm..may have to market it as the "DMF Motorcyclist Survival Kit".

Small enough Kit that fits in the trunk of bike.  Waterproof bag with DMF or logo.  [thumbsup]
That would be ten crisp new one hundred dollar bills.
Any trouble you can get into on a Monster $$$$$$ will fix.  8)


Limited time offer. Only $1,200 until June 1st.
Title: Re: Survival kit
Post by: rgramjet on June 01, 2013, 05:52:51 PM
Quote from: IZ on May 31, 2013, 07:09:11 PM
Hmmm..may have to market it as the "DMF Motorcyclist Survival Kit".

Small enough Kit that fits in the trunk of bike.  Waterproof bag with DMF or logo.  [thumbsup]

It's called a B.O.A.T.  Bug out altoids tin!
Title: Re: Survival kit
Post by: IZ on June 01, 2013, 08:12:24 PM
Quote from: rgramjet on June 01, 2013, 05:52:51 PM
It's called a B.O.A.T.  Bug out altoids tin!

[thumbsup]
Title: Re: Survival kit
Post by: herm on June 02, 2013, 01:55:56 PM
Quote from: IZ on May 28, 2013, 11:32:42 AM
Z, least amount of weight of space!  It will be used mostly hiking and kayaking.     


Cutting to the real question.....
Why are you wearing a life jacket while hiking???
Title: Re: Survival kit
Post by: Bick on June 02, 2013, 02:27:27 PM
Quote from: herm on June 02, 2013, 01:55:56 PM
Cutting to the real question.....
Why are you wearing a life jacket while hiking???

What would happen to IZ if he was out hiking and is started to rain?

Good planning, IZ. [thumbsup]


;D

Title: Re: Survival kit
Post by: Ddan on June 02, 2013, 02:45:46 PM
ATGATT 
Title: Re: Survival kit
Post by: rgramjet on June 02, 2013, 02:47:21 PM
Quote from: Bick on June 02, 2013, 02:27:27 PM
What would happen to IZ if he was out hiking and is started to rain?

Good planning, IZ. [thumbsup]


;D



My entire family is looking.g at me funny cuz I just busted out laughing while looking at my phone.........
Title: Re: Survival kit
Post by: herm on June 02, 2013, 06:32:05 PM
Quote from: Bick on June 02, 2013, 02:27:27 PM
What would happen to IZ if he was out hiking and is started to rain?


he would get a nail in his tire, of course.. Life preserver or not....... [drink]
Title: Re: Survival kit
Post by: IZ on June 02, 2013, 08:34:21 PM
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