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Title: 796 Q's
Post by: Stella on June 27, 2013, 01:23:53 PM
Finally had a chance to check out a "769" at a local car dealer (yes, I know it's a 796).

Details: 

2011
1,400 miles
Needs rear brake I'm told
Rear tire tread not certain on - will post pics later so you can try to judge the wear
It's pretty  ;)
They have it unofficially listed at around $11k but would "take care of me..." possibly at around $9300.
Leo V pipes
They'll call former owner to ask which dealer he got it from so we can get any history.


Thoughts on this model?  What would you pay?  What else??

Thnx! 
Title: Re: 796 Q's
Post by: hbliam on June 27, 2013, 02:19:11 PM
$9200 is "average retail" per NADA. That's on one with ABS. Or you can just buy the '10 1100 in our classifieds for the same price or the '12 696 for less then 8K. In other words, there are better deals out there to be had.
Title: Re: 796 Q's
Post by: Stella on June 27, 2013, 02:36:33 PM
Valid point on the other bikes out there.  Wasn't originally looking to spend what this bike is priced at but I do like deals that have potential to make me profit down the road and knowing the owner of the dealership, I have a slight chance of getting a better price than $9300. (Maybe?!)

696 is nice (rode one on the track in Vegas a few years ago - very smooth) and the one listed on our site looks great.  BUT, it's a few states away.  What is the avg. cost to transport a bike?  I have zero idea. 

Less expensive bike, more cost for shipping v pricier bike, no shipping cost

I've been bikeless for too long now.  But can wait longer for the right priced bike.

Title: Re: 796 Q's
Post by: Stormtrooper on June 27, 2013, 02:39:14 PM
$9300...no.  I'd pay $8-8.5k ish.  I've seen 1100evos with similar miles asking $9.5-10k locally.
Title: Re: 796 Q's
Post by: SpikeC on June 27, 2013, 02:41:33 PM
 I just bought a flawless 2009 M1100S with 1100 miles on it for 8500.
Title: Re: 796 Q's
Post by: Stella on June 27, 2013, 03:07:35 PM
Hmmm...there's another 796 in KS.  2012 for $9k. With only 350 miles on it.  Emailed the seller.  

And: What's wrong with people?  You get a bike... RIDE IT!    ;)  (As my Yeti mtn bike weeps, sitting in the garage.)  


Quick response from the seller:

"There is no maint/repairs that need to be done on this bike. It is in perfect condition with less than 400mi on it. It isn't even broken in yet. At 600mi the maintenance will have to be done by a Ducati mechanic. It is only $200 and takes a couple hours to do. It still has the factory warranty for another year and a tire/wheel warranty for the next two years."


I think I need an older, less expensive ride though when I rationally think about my needs/wants....   :P
Title: Re: 796 Q's
Post by: hbliam on June 27, 2013, 05:22:53 PM
Quote from: Stella on June 27, 2013, 02:36:33 PM
Valid point on the other bikes out there.  Wasn't originally looking to spend what this bike is priced at but I do like deals that have potential to make me profit down the road and knowing the owner of the dealership, I have a slight chance of getting a better price than $9300. (Maybe?!)

696 is nice (rode one on the track in Vegas a few years ago - very smooth) and the one listed on our site looks great.  BUT, it's a few states away.  What is the avg. cost to transport a bike?  I have zero idea. 

Less expensive bike, more cost for shipping v pricier bike, no shipping cost

I've been bikeless for too long now.  But can wait longer for the right priced bike.



I think you are already on the right track but:
-there is no potential profit in that 796. Its overpriced at 9300.
-Bike transport is 400-800 depending on distance and quality of transporter in my experience.
-Or...fly in and ride it home.
Title: Re: 796 Q's
Post by: hbliam on June 27, 2013, 05:23:38 PM
Quote from: Stella on June 27, 2013, 03:07:35 PM
Hmmm...there's another 796 in KS.  2012 for $9k. With only 350 miles on it.  Emailed the seller.  


Probably get it for 8.
Title: Re: 796 Q's
Post by: Stella on June 27, 2013, 05:33:02 PM
Quote from: hbliam on June 27, 2013, 05:22:53 PM

-Or...fly in and ride it home.

Feasible with the Kansas bike.  425 miles. 

Although for a first ride in a few years, perhaps trailering it would be more realistic (and less painful).   ;)
Title: Re: 796 Q's
Post by: Curmudgeon on June 27, 2013, 06:26:33 PM
Quote from: Stella on June 27, 2013, 01:23:53 PM
Finally had a chance to check out a "769" at a local car dealer (yes, I know it's a 796).

Details: 

2011
1,400 miles
Needs rear brake I'm told
Rear tire tread not certain on - will post pics later so you can try to judge the wear
It's pretty  ;)
They have it unofficially listed at around $11k but would "take care of me..." possibly at around $9300.
Leo V pipes
They'll call former owner to ask which dealer he got it from so we can get any history.


Thoughts on this model?  What would you pay?  What else??

Thnx! 
You should buy the bike you want. Some people who can afford EVO's still buy 796's. 8)

A late 2011 will have ABS standard. Why a rear brake? Is it still under warranty?

Much nicer bike than a 696. Needs a 14T front sprocket and a $625- Ohlins as soon as you have the scratch.

With air in it, the rear tire should go 5,000 - 6,000+ miles. Should be a Diablo Rosso. They're decent.

Buy a used 1100 if you want. There are lots of them. 796's a lot less...

Are those just slip-ons? If not, has the bike been tuned to run with them? Definitely get some history.
Title: Re: 796 Q's
Post by: Stella on June 27, 2013, 08:21:48 PM
^  Thank you!

Not having ridden for a few years, I think a bike like an 1100 may be more than what I need (coming from a 620).


The car dealership's GM didn't know much about it (or about bikes in general) but said he'd reach out to the previous owner to get whatever info I needed - if the guy responds or not.  Will ask about the pipes as well.   IF this were to come to fruition, it wouldn't be w/o getting much more info. on it based on the responses here.  Just what I was looking for.  Thanks again!
Title: Re: 796 Q's
Post by: Slide Panda on June 28, 2013, 08:25:18 AM
Quote from: Stella on June 27, 2013, 01:23:53 PM
Finally had a chance to check out a "769" at a local car dealer (yes, I know it's a 796).

Needs rear brake I'm told

Details on this? Why's a nearly new bike need a new brake?
Title: Re: 796 Q's
Post by: Stella on June 28, 2013, 09:10:17 AM
Quote from: Slide Panda on June 28, 2013, 08:25:18 AM
Details on this? Why's a nearly new bike need a new brake?

No idea and definitely odd considering the miles.  The sales manager knows nothing about motos but was going to reach out to the previous owner to get whatever addt'l. info he could. 
Title: Re: 796 Q's
Post by: Slide Panda on June 28, 2013, 09:12:54 AM
That'd make be a bit nervous. Brakes, especially the rear are pretty simple and hearty.
Title: Re: 796 Q's
Post by: d3vi@nt on June 28, 2013, 09:31:10 AM
Quote from: Stella on June 27, 2013, 02:36:33 PM
696 is nice (rode one on the track in Vegas a few years ago - very smooth) and the one listed on our site looks great.  BUT, it's a few states away.  What is the avg. cost to transport a bike?  I have zero idea. 

2010 696 w/ 4300 miles in your neck of the woods for $7500:
http://denver.craigslist.org/mcd/3878935782.html (http://denver.craigslist.org/mcd/3878935782.html)

Haulbikes has a pricing zone map that gives some idea of shipping costs:
http://www.haulbikes.com/zonemap.html#zones (http://www.haulbikes.com/zonemap.html#zones)
Title: Re: 796 Q's
Post by: Curmudgeon on June 28, 2013, 09:36:03 AM
Best bike hauler is Keyboard if available and necessary.
Title: Re: 796 Q's
Post by: Slide Panda on June 28, 2013, 09:36:38 AM
Haul bikes has a very long time frame. I bought a bike out of Utah, for delivery to VA. I called them and they said it would be a month or more before I'd see the bike.

I went through a smaller scale independent who specializes in bikes through uship. Cost me less and took 8 days.
Title: Re: 796 Q's
Post by: Curmudgeon on June 28, 2013, 09:54:27 AM
Keyboard has a special shipping frame = zero damage. My son uses them for all the collector stuff. 10 - 14 days typically. They book on Thursdays.
Title: Re: 796 Q's
Post by: Stella on June 28, 2013, 10:39:13 AM
Quote from: D3vi@nt on June 28, 2013, 09:31:10 AM
2010 696 w/ 4300 miles in your neck of the woods for $7500:
http://denver.craigslist.org/mcd/3878935782.html (http://denver.craigslist.org/mcd/3878935782.html)


Have seen that one on CL.  Still curious about the 796 size (and not a fan of the red/red combo).  Because isn't it first and foremost about what's the prettiest?

;D
Title: Re: 796 Q's
Post by: red baron on June 28, 2013, 05:35:27 PM
Quote from: Slide Panda on June 28, 2013, 08:25:18 AM
Details on this? Why's a nearly new bike need a new brake?

Likely someone who rode in the dirt bought it and scared themselves. Hence sold it.


Stella needs one of these...... [Dolph]


http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/mcy/3890044854.html (http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/mcy/3890044854.html)
Title: Re: 796 Q's
Post by: Stella on June 28, 2013, 11:14:34 PM
i like it!

although it looks like it would be a long reach from saddle to handlebars...

Title: Re: 796 Q's
Post by: red baron on June 29, 2013, 06:14:33 AM
It's a very small bike.
Title: Re: 796 Q's
Post by: Stella on July 14, 2013, 01:42:04 PM
Consensus from those more in the know than me (Carlos and the Randimus) is that the local 796 ("769") is not the bike to get.  Not that one any way due to some issues they could tell from some pics that I took.

There's another in KS that I sent an inquiry on.  May just have a bike before 2014....   :o
Title: Re: 796 Q's
Post by: Curmudgeon on July 14, 2013, 02:08:13 PM
Good luck! I think you may be on the right track with a 796, coming from a 620. You'll LOVE the way the new Monsters handle. Keep us posted!
Title: Re: 796 Q's
Post by: Raux on July 14, 2013, 02:32:34 PM
Stella,
where are you at?

Title: Re: 796 Q's
Post by: Stella on July 14, 2013, 02:35:52 PM
Colorado
Title: Re: 796 Q's
Post by: danaid on July 14, 2013, 02:39:34 PM
Quote from: Slide Panda on June 28, 2013, 08:25:18 AM
Details on this? Why's a nearly new bike need a new brake?

My 09' 696, the rear brake was defective, the rear pads squealed at those low miles, mine was replaced under warranty and it began to squeal also , so I replaced the pad with an aftermarket pad and it was fixed.
Title: Re: 796 Q's
Post by: d3vi@nt on July 19, 2013, 10:33:28 AM
How about this one:
http://denver.craigslist.org/mcy/3941713073.html (http://denver.craigslist.org/mcy/3941713073.html)

2013 796 for $10250 with Termi's. Only 900 miles...

[evil]
Title: Re: 796 Q's
Post by: shamoo on July 19, 2013, 01:18:03 PM
No comment about the price, since there it varies depending on location.

I got my 2012 796 new and have ridden it just about 25K miles already.  Love the thing.  As others have said, concerned about that rear brake needing replacement.  What does it mean?  The pads?  At 25K (commuting daily) I'm still on my original brakes front and rear.  I'll probably replace the rears next service.  Same with the tires.  My OEM pair lasted quite a long time....until I got a flat. :(  

You mentioned it has pipes.  Does it have an aftermarket ECU or air filter?  Flashed ECU?  With just pipes, the bike CAN act funny.  Not saying, it happens to everyone.  It's dependent on bike.  I have termi pipes only on mine and you'll get some popping/sputter.  I hear when you flash your ECU or get the DP ECU, it'll fix this.  I get a small amount of gas smell too.

You also mentioned the 600 mile break-in service only costing $200.  Where is this?  Not at the dealer.  Mine was nearly $400.  And the 7500 mile services (if nothing needs replacement) are over $700 at the dealer.  You're basically doing a mini-7500 mile service at the 600 mile mark.  I have found a somewhat local Italian bike mechanic to do my services for a LOT cheaper.  Going there this weekend actually for my 3rd 7500 mile service.

Does the one you're looking at have ABS?  It's a nice feature.
Title: Re: 796 Q's
Post by: danaid on July 24, 2013, 03:13:59 PM
 [popcorn]
Quote from: shamoo on July 19, 2013, 01:18:03 PM
No comment about the price, since there it varies depending on location.

I got my 2012 796 new and have ridden it just about 25K miles already.  Love the thing.  As others have said, concerned about that rear brake needing replacement.  What does it mean?  The pads?  At 25K (commuting daily) I'm still on my original brakes front and rear.  I'll probably replace the rears next service.  Same with the tires.  My OEM pair lasted quite a long time....until I got a flat. :(  

You mentioned it has pipes.  Does it have an aftermarket ECU or air filter?  Flashed ECU?  With just pipes, the bike CAN act funny.  Not saying, it happens to everyone.  It's dependent on bike.  I have termi pipes only on mine and you'll get some popping/sputter.  I hear when you flash your ECU or get the DP ECU, it'll fix this.  I get a small amount of gas smell too.

You also mentioned the 600 mile break-in service only costing $200.  Where is this?  Not at the dealer.  Mine was nearly $400.  And the 7500 mile services (if nothing needs replacement) are over $700 at the dealer.  You're basically doing a mini-7500 mile service at the 600 mile mark.  I have found a somewhat local Italian bike mechanic to do my services for a LOT cheaper.  Going there this weekend actually for my 3rd 7500 mile service.

Does the one you're looking at have ABS?  It's a nice feature.

My first service , 600mi. also costed $150 which is just a quick check, clear maint. icon, chain adjustment here in California at a dealership.