Need help identifying the wood in the pictures of a family barn. Push has come to shove and the old beast has got to go asap.
Having detail to list on barn reclamation sites will only help. Thought some of you might be able to tell what wood(s) are used. Also, can you tell if the beams are hand hewn or not? We know the barn was built before 1917 â€" for what that's worth.
Bonus photo for Howie. ;)
Thanks in advance!
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nothing to add except....damn drunk moonshiner squirrels
Yes the beams are hand hewed. (based on the photos) You can make out the scoring marks on the post and beams made from the ax.
As for the species, I fall short in that department. I can't tell, I need to be there to see it and touch it.
That's my two cents.
Quote from: The Architect on August 06, 2013, 12:47:02 PM
Yes the beams are hand hewed. (based on the photos) You can make out the scoring marks on the post and beams made from the ax.
+1
Not sure on the structural members but the board siding (and possibly the roof) look like some type of pine due to the knot patterning, but I could be wrong.
Without actually seeing it in person it's hard to be very accurate.
Quote from: DesmoDiva on August 06, 2013, 01:19:35 PM
+1
Not sure on the structural members but the board siding (and possibly the roof) look like some type of pine due to the knot patterning, but I could be wrong.
Without actually seeing it in person it's hard to be very accurate.
I tend to think pine of some kind as well used on the siding but didn't want to make any guesses w/o seeking the expert opinions of the Ducati members. ;)
Thnx! [thumbsup]
Looks like either Pine or fir to me.....from here.
Quote from: Mendo Dave on August 06, 2013, 01:52:25 PM
Looks like either Pine or fir to me.....from here.
Yes, fur. ;D
Quote from: Stella on August 06, 2013, 11:59:59 AM
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It is hand hewn, and it looks like pine, spruce, or fir...there's little difference.
I don't think it's hemlock.
It's a true post and beam with a bent roof.
It's worth money...don't let anyone steal it.
I'm also going with pine siding and spruce or fir beams.
The frame is nicely put together, you should be able to do pretty well on it.
Is the value (whatever that may be) the same whether its sold still standing or if we have a company dismantle it and haul it away?
Thanks again for the input!
It may be worth more as salvage than a functioning barn, if that's what your asking, but it's pretty hard to say.
If you sell it to the dismantler then he will in turn raise the price to the end user. That is a given
If you sell directly to the end user and you pay to have it dismantled it could go either way as to your end 'profit'.
It might come down to which is the most expedient.
We'd like the barn to be gone before snow flies but realistic that that may not happen.
Have a few inquiries in to reclamation companies and supposedly an ad on thebarnpages.com but as of late last night, it still hasn't appeared (but the cost to place it was most definitely charged - of course).
Edit: it's posted now. Need to make some edits though.
Quote from: Stella on August 07, 2013, 08:47:28 AM
We'd like the barn to be gone before snow flies but realistic that that may not happen.
Have a few inquiries in to reclamation companies and supposedly an ad on thebarnpages.com but as of late last night, it still hasn't appeared (but the cost to place it was most definitely charged - of course).
It could snow tomorrow. ;D
Oh so true. [laugh]
Dumb question, Where is the barn located? being hand built the lumber was most likely local and knowing that will help narrow it down.
Quote from: yamifixer on August 07, 2013, 09:13:59 AM
Dumb question, Where is the barn located? being hand built the lumber was most likely local and knowing that will help narrow it down.
SW Michigan (Castle Park). Whatever it's made of has withstood some pretty severe weather being about 3/4 mile off Lake Michigan. [thumbsup]
A Hobby-est guess:
the sheeting on the walls and roof are most likely yellow or white pine (Amount of knots and the silvering makes me lean Yellow) and most likely cut on radial saw. I do not see any variance in the widths in the pictures you have shown so I would guess toward the fact this was bundled wood from a lumber yard. (not a bad thing but wide boards bring big $$$)
the stringers in the roof (round with bark still on them) are most likely ash or "scrub" pine.
the structure is probably oak (great or pin) or maple. It could be white ceder but it is very clean (limited knotting) so I do not think that is the case. They are hand hewed and joined.
I hope this helps and good luck.
If you know any old farmers in the area they might be willing to come and give you a better guess
Grateful for your input! [thumbsup]
One of my sisters who teaches elementary school out in the country is checking with one of her student's parents (farmers) who might be able to help/advise as well.
The only old farmer I know is in New Hampster and he has provided his experienced input already. [evil] ;D
He has wood......... ;D Can I pimp his wood?
12 year old joke aside (bows to DP) that here be some valuable beam. Make sure you shop your option carefully. Unless you would like me to come over and dismantle it for ya cause I would do that for free as long as I can dispose of the wood myself ;D
Quote from: ducpainter on August 06, 2013, 05:19:05 PM
It is hand hewn, and it looks like pine, spruce, or fir...there's little difference.
I don't think it's hemlock.
It's a true post and beam with a bent roof.
It's worth money...don't let anyone steal it.
I've been dealing with a d-bag on our old family barn who is indeed trying to steal it.
He's now trying to play my siblings and I against each other.
Little does he know that we're thick as thieves. 8)
He is in Michigan now, where the barn is. Specifically to shop for barns. Based on the area in which he is staying, it's another 15-20 miles one way. He is crying about that. Said we told him it was in another town closer to him. Dude you READ the ad that clearly states what town it's in. And if you've traveled...from CALIFORNIA....what's another THIRTY miles on the rental?!
My brother and I have been the points of contact on all aspects other than meeting people to show it. He's now trying to negotiate $ w/my sister (which she is beyond capable of but we know our roles).
What an idiot. [laugh] [bang]
Quote from: Stella on October 08, 2013, 08:30:24 PM
I've been dealing with a d-bag on our old family barn who is indeed trying to steal it.
He's now trying to play my siblings and I against each other.
Little does he know that we're thick as thieves. 8)
He is in Michigan now, where the barn is. Specifically to shop for barns. Based on the area in which he is staying, it's another 15-20 miles one way. He is crying about that. Said we told him it was in another town closer to him. Dude you READ the ad that clearly states what town it's in. And if you've traveled...from CALIFORNIA....what's another THIRTY miles on the rental?!
My brother and I have been the points of contact on all aspects other than meeting people to show it. He's now trying to negotiate $ w/my sister (which she is beyond capable of but we know our roles).
What an idiot. [laugh] [bang]
Total idiot. Tell him to drive home.
Done did.
Nobody puts barn-dealing baby in a corner.
Quote from: The Architect on August 06, 2013, 12:47:02 PM
As for the species, I fall short in that department. I can't tell, I need to be there to see it and touch it.
That's what she said!
Sorry, had to! [laugh]
Three years and three months later....
The barn still stands after a few buyers low balled and we, with my mother's blessing, told them to pound sand.
New buyer who has never dismantled a barn but gave a decent offer has stepped up.
And I'm in the middle of it since it's the s/o who wants to sell some of it and use some of it.
Things could get interesting [popcorn]. Or not....?
Mail the barn to me-I could use it.
Quote from: Stella on February 21, 2017, 09:17:54 PM
Three years and three months later....
The barn still stands after a few buyers low balled and we, with my mother's blessing, told them to pound sand.
New buyer who has never dismantled a barn but gave a decent offer has stepped up.
And I'm in the middle of it since it's the s/o who wants to sell some of it and use some of it.
Things could get interesting [popcorn]. Or not....?
They're going to need either...
a crane...
a lot of help that has a team of horses with rigging equipment...
divine intervention.
edited to add...cash the check before he starts. ;D
Should probably check the details of his insurance policy too
(Truth in kidding)
Quote from: Stella on February 22, 2017, 12:03:44 PM
Should probably check the details of his insurance policy too
(Truth in kidding)
That's not a terrible idea.