Bought some led aux lights for my big ktm and needed a way to mount them up.
Drew up a shape and cut it out of card board. Measured it and drew it up in cad
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y25/900rider/950SMR/Clamp_zpsa99fbd25.png)
And then set about machining it yesterday.
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y25/900rider/SMT/IMG_20130914_143214_zps47e5d8a6.jpg)
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y25/900rider/SMT/IMG_20130914_164851_zpsbb3c078f.jpg)
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y25/900rider/SMT/IMG_20130914_204514_zpscda41c8c.jpg)
Did the install today-
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y25/900rider/950SMR/IMG_20130915_132640_zpsfc22a4eb.jpg)
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y25/900rider/950SMR/IMG_20130915_132737_zps4313816f.jpg)
I tried the low mount but decided I didn't like it as much.
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y25/900rider/950SMR/IMG_20130915_113629_zps99c2f5b5.jpg)
They're also strong enough to support my 210 pounds of fury [evil]
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y25/900rider/950SMR/IMG_20130915_152256_zps436432f0.jpg)
Nice work! As an added bonus, with the lights removed you've got some serious stunting potential [laugh]
Must be nice to have the cool toys.
Very nice work and great looks. Patent the shit and sell the hell out of them.
I'd love to sell them but I don't think something like this would get a patent.
Nice work.
No one could argue with their strength.
Extra lighting help spot deer, other road hazards, etc?
[clap] [clap]
Quote from: koko64 on September 16, 2013, 01:09:54 AM
Nice work.
No one could argue with their strength.
Extra lighting help spot deer, other road hazards, etc?
Thanks. Yeah, I don't care for the thought of hitting a deer :P
Quote from: Monsterlover on September 15, 2013, 05:31:40 PM
I'd love to sell them but I don't think something like this would get a patent.
Claim: a road lighting device that is attached to the front of a motorcycle for the purpose of identifying road hazards, the curvature of the road, indicating the existence of that motorcycle to other motorists, and acting as a step-ladder in the garage. ;D
[laugh]
gotta think that can't be good for your forks though..
It weighs 460 pounds and I've had it airborne on concrete ;D
This can't be as bad.
Its all about vectors
the force of a jump is in line with your forks
you standing on those mounts is a pressure on the walls of the forks
Why'd you make them so thick, looks or to stand on? Guessing you don't need that strength for the lights...
I made them that thick because I didn't know how much support the lights would need. The farther a given weight is from its support point the more ability it has to break that support.
I'm an over engineer over build type so I can make it and not worry about it ever again.
Quote from: Raux on September 16, 2013, 08:14:00 PM
Its all about vectors
the force of a jump is in line with your forks
you standing on those mounts is a pressure on the walls of the forks
Yeah I know what you're saying.
The clamps are mounted almost right under the lower triple so I had that going for me. It was also a steady load and not a shock load.
Quote from: Monsterlover on September 15, 2013, 05:31:40 PM
I'd love to sell them but I don't think something like this would get a patent.
oh c'mon.....
if apple can patent a shape, so can you!
just make that shape into the logo for your business...
Trademark vs. patent of course ;D. Seriously though, I think a patent for an attachment bracket for X LEDs to Y KTM is doable if you're serious. Not anything close to an expert though. I've gone through the process but that was with a corporate patent attorney's help.
Nice job! [clap]
Sweet.
Actually, a patent does not stop anyone from copying a design. It just gives the filing originator the right to sue. If it is an ambiguous case, such as a light bracket, the attys will walk away with $$$$ and the patent holder might end up with personal satisfaction.
Also, the Chinese do not respect any restraints to copy anything they want to, and will find willing abettors on ebay. Think CRG, PAZZO, etc. The latest seems to be some Rizoma knockoffs being marketed as Pazomas; otherwise identical in form, function, and shape.
and patents cost $10k or more
Quote from: oldndumb on September 18, 2013, 06:49:58 AM
Actually, a patent does not stop anyone from copying a design. It just gives the filing originator the right to sue. If it is an ambiguous case, such as a light bracket, the attys will walk away with $$$$ and the patent holder might end up with personal satisfaction.
Also, the Chinese do not respect any restraints to copy anything they want to, and will find willing abettors on ebay. Think CRG, PAZZO, etc. The latest seems to be some Rizoma knockoffs being marketed as Pazomas; otherwise identical in form and function.
very cool. i've always wished I had better lighting options for the monster. headlight is terrible.
I'm going to be putting aux lights on the ST when I finish it.
So, gonna sell some on here?
Potentially. . .
Think of all the aluminum you wasted when a roll of Duc-Tape would have sufficed [cheeky]
Nice work - as is your usual [thumbsup]
Quote from: BozcoRob on September 18, 2013, 07:21:12 PM
Think of all the aluminum you wasted when a roll of Duc-Tape would have sufficed [cheeky]
[laugh]
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showpost.php?p=22375080&postcount=535 (http://www.advrider.com/forums/showpost.php?p=22375080&postcount=535)
Gonna give this a try. Selling through Cyclopsadventuresports.com if there is sufficient interest.
Im in the process of researching monster fork sizes so I can figure out if these will fit Monsters as is or if I need to change the mounting diameter to match.
So, if you're interested, let Cyclops know.
just make a series of them or have the diameter as an option on ordering
50,53,54 are common Ducati sizes and any where in between if you slide them up and down the fork outer tubes
41, 43 and I think 45 are the inner tubes.
for example LSL make headlight brackets in these sizes
35mm clamps, black (...35)
36mm clamps, black (...36)
38mm clamps, black (...38)
39mm clamps, black (...39)
40mm clamps, black (...40)
41mm clamps, black (...41)
43mm clamps, black (...43)
45mm clamps, black (...45)
50/52mm clamps, black (...50/52)
50/53mm clamps, black (...50/53)
50/54mm clamps, black (...50/54)
50/55mm clamps, black (...50/55)
50mm clamps, black (...50)
51/53mm clamps, black (...51/53)
51/54mm clamps, black (...51/54)
51mm clamps, black (...51)
52/55mm clamps, black (...52/55)
52mm clamps, black (...52)
53/54mm clamps, black (...53/54)
53/55mm clamps, black (...53/55)
54/55mm clamps, black (...54/55)
54mm clamps, black (...54)
55mm clamps, black (...55)
59mm clamps, black (...59)
Headlight brackets don't clamp in the same area my clamps do so i can't go off that. Dramatically different sizes on my bike so in have to believe ducatis could be the same way. I also can't work with a tapered surface, the brackets won't stay in place.
Thats why I need the lower fork clamp diameter. It's a straight OD that I can work with.
with the amount of material you have you could build them as one piece and when a customer orders with their needed diameter, drill out the inner diameter and then slice the piece in two.
I think that's where you're missing my point. I'm not building to order because I don't want to, it's because I'll get crushed financially if I do it that way. I have to set up and make a bunch then move on to the next job. If I'm putting material in the mill, or any machine, it has to produce a finished part ready to go on a bike. Handling it a second time costs too much and would price me out of the game.
Probably easier and more $$ in your pocket if you become your own eBay store..
Maybe. Something to consider.
Hey Monster, Love the work you did. [thumbsup] I would love to mount some aux lights to my Monster as I live in deer country and anything helps. That being said I prefer brackets that are minimalist. It looks to me like you could make three of four brackets from the ones you made in the pics. Having made some things in the past I think they would be strong as they are now (if used as light brackets and not ladder steps) at 1/3-1/4 their current thickness.
As a product it would save you materials and maybe sell more bits.
That is all for my two cents as it is likely worth less. I would never stop making bits if I had that equipment......... ;)
Thanks!
They're .800 thick, I could probably cut that down to .500
If you get a chance, cut them down to .300, then stand on them again. Bet ya they will be just as strong. [thumbsup] Less materials, less weight=more sales, more profit from said sales. I would buy a pair. :)
Quote from: Privateer on September 18, 2013, 08:13:31 AM
very cool. i've always wished I had better lighting options for the monster. headlight is terrible.
Look at Rigid Industries and their LED lighting options. I'm running the Driving Light and it is insanely bright - got flashed on a dark road; so I shut off the light for a couple seconds (connected to the Lo beam) and then back on. No more flashing. [cheeky]
Just out of curiosity, how did you hold your piece to cut off the hat? Pocket in soft jaws, tape, strap clamps...
Quote from: lpgoldtop on October 26, 2013, 05:51:47 AM
Just out of curiosity, how did you hold your piece to cut off the hat? Pocket in soft jaws, tape, strap clamps...
Pocket in aluminum soft jaws, good guess!
Ok, so I am, at this moment, finishing up the CAD model for these brackets in 54mm Monster size.
I couldn't get anything going with Cyclopsadventuresports so I'm selling them on my own.
$166 shipped anywhere a $6 flat rate box will go for $6.00 :)
That gets you two brackets, two caps, 4 stainless cap screws and they'll come black anodized.
Anybody interested? I could have a batch done in less than 2 weeks (I think)
Bump for kev.. If i had a bike...
Should I start a separate thread for these?