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Title: Harley Daymaker LED headlight
Post by: caperix on September 20, 2013, 05:51:32 AM
I have read some of the reviews on the new LED headlight harley is offering on their 2014 bikes & it seams to have great light output.  Harley offers it as a stand alone part for retrofit into older modles at a fairley reasonable price.
http://www.harley-davidson.com/store/led-headlamp-pa-11-7339010--1 (http://www.harley-davidson.com/store/led-headlamp-pa-11-7339010--1)
If you can live with your light saying Harley Davidson on the lense this may be a great lighting upgrade to those wanting to keep a 7" round headlight on the monster but with much increased light output.
Title: Re: Harley Daymaker LED headlight
Post by: Steve.In.Atlanta on September 20, 2013, 06:01:47 AM
My friend has one on his sporty and that thing is super bright. Wish I could do that but right now I'm going to spend my money on heated gear this year.
Title: Re: Harley Daymaker LED headlight
Post by: ChrisK on September 20, 2013, 07:27:21 AM
Aren't Monster headlights 7 7/8" or something weird like that though? So it would require the Harley bucket as well, and the bending of the "ears" to fit.
Title: Re: Harley Daymaker LED headlight
Post by: caperix on September 20, 2013, 07:54:08 AM
Its around 7.5". Im sure if worse came to worse an SV650 bucket could be used with some spacers.  There are 2 versions that look like they use the same base headlamp, 1 has an extra adapter ring. I am thinking about ordering it to see if I can make it work.
Title: Re: Harley Daymaker LED headlight
Post by: stopintime on September 20, 2013, 10:13:52 AM
You can have this in black and without the HD writing.

http://www.jwspeaker.com/products/headlights/#product=500249 (http://www.jwspeaker.com/products/headlights/#product=500249)

J.W.Speaker offered a Monster bucket mounting kit a while ago - maybe still...

I've seen the comparison between stock and typical xenon and they are way better [thumbsup]
Title: Re: Harley Daymaker LED headlight
Post by: RBX QB on September 20, 2013, 11:22:00 AM
Quote from: ChrisK on September 20, 2013, 07:27:21 AM
Aren't Monster headlights 7 7/8" or something weird like that though? So it would require the Harley bucket as well, and the bending of the "ears" to fit.

Motowheels sells adapter kits for 7" headlights. Haven't installed mine yet (nor found a 7" lense I want).

http://motowheels.com/i-13578432-motowheels-headlight-conversion-kit-ring-only.html (http://motowheels.com/i-13578432-motowheels-headlight-conversion-kit-ring-only.html)

They also offer a complete 7" headlight kit.
Title: Re: Harley Daymaker LED headlight
Post by: caperix on September 20, 2013, 12:06:16 PM
Quote from: stopintime on September 20, 2013, 10:13:52 AM
You can have this in black and without the HD writing.

http://www.jwspeaker.com/products/headlights/#product=500249 (http://www.jwspeaker.com/products/headlights/#product=500249)

J.W.Speaker offered a Monster bucket mounting kit a while ago - maybe still...

I've seen the comparison between stock and typical xenon and they are way better [thumbsup]

Any first hand experience with these?  I am leaning towards giving the black one a try as it should off much better lighting with out changing the looks of the monster too much.  It is strange the J.W.Speaker version lists as being high beam only
Title: Re: Harley Daymaker LED headlight
Post by: stopintime on September 20, 2013, 12:09:42 PM
Quote from: caperix on September 20, 2013, 12:06:16 PM
Any first hand experience with these?  I am leaning towards giving the black one a try as it should off much better lighting with out changing the looks of the monster too much.  It is strange the J.W.Speaker version lists as being high beam only

8700 Evolution is high/low beam (plus the side lights).
Title: Re: Harley Daymaker LED headlight
Post by: Rob Hilding on September 21, 2013, 09:53:51 AM
The J.W. Speaker unit looks great - but price is around $400/ea + adapter

I think Buck Naked has this light:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/400429003282?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/400429003282?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649)

It looks similar but I'm sure it doesn't match the 8700 based on the price.

I think I'll save for the 8700
Title: Re: Harley Daymaker LED headlight
Post by: RBX QB on September 21, 2013, 12:14:40 PM
Quote from: BozcoRob on September 21, 2013, 09:53:51 AM
...
I think Buck Naked has this light:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/400429003282?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/400429003282?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649)
...

My favorite part of that listing is that the green wire = earth.  [laugh]
Title: Re: Harley Daymaker LED headlight
Post by: caperix on September 23, 2013, 05:15:24 AM
I like the 1st bike they show it mounted on, looks like a Suzuki GT750 water buffalo 2 stroke in a bandit frame.  I decided to order the 8700 in black this weekend.  Once it gets here I'll figure out if I am going to run the motowheels adapter in the bucket or swap to a SV650 bucket, will prob install a voltage regulator flip kit at the same time to try to keep my 10 year old regulator from cooking.
Title: Re: Harley Daymaker LED headlight
Post by: Stormtrooper on September 23, 2013, 11:47:17 AM
I don't have personal experience with that JW/HD LED headlight but for the cost I would think it would have more than 1410 lumens of output?  My little Q2 LED headlight puts out over twice the lumen output @3030. 
Title: Re: Harley Daymaker LED headlight
Post by: Dirty Duc on September 23, 2013, 07:53:46 PM
Quote from: RBX QB on September 21, 2013, 12:14:40 PM
My favorite part of that listing is that the green wire = earth.  [laugh]
That is apparently a Honda thing.  The wife's bike has green earths at the fuse box/headlight/cluster.
Title: Re: Harley Daymaker LED headlight
Post by: Rudemouthsky on September 23, 2013, 08:23:33 PM
JW Speaker manufactures that for Harley, it is the exact same thing.

I have the knock off listed in that eBay ad and I love it. Bright as f*k, was easy to install, and has given me no problems. The plastic bucket is a little cheesy...but it was $100. When I upgrade my bike I will prob shell out for the JWS and use a generic bottom mount bucket + the billet clamp Motowheels sells which attaches to the upper triple.
Title: Re: Harley Daymaker LED headlight
Post by: graydo on September 24, 2013, 10:46:08 AM
Quote from: caperix on September 20, 2013, 05:51:32 AM
I have read some of the reviews on the new LED headlight harley is offering on their 2014 bikes & it seams to have great light output.  Harley offers it as a stand alone part for retrofit into older modles at a fairley reasonable price.
http://www.harley-davidson.com/store/led-headlamp-pa-11-7339010--1 (http://www.harley-davidson.com/store/led-headlamp-pa-11-7339010--1)
If you can live with your light saying Harley Davidson on the lense this may be a great lighting upgrade to those wanting to keep a 7" round headlight on the monster but with much increased light output.

Hi,
the HD light looks pretty much the same as the one on my M1100

http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=205.msg1096425#msg1096425 (http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=205.msg1096425#msg1096425)

Although I suspect it may be a higher power than the one I am running... would be interested to find out the specifications for the light... I have posted on mine in the past where I think the low beam is pretty good, maybe even better than pretty good but the high beam is lacking a little... had mine for a couple of years without any problems at all... bought it as a kit from JW speaker, they were great to deal with.
Title: Re: Harley Daymaker LED headlight
Post by: Rudemouthsky on September 24, 2013, 11:59:33 AM
Quote from: graydo on September 24, 2013, 10:46:08 AM
Hi,
the HD light looks pretty much the same as the one on my M1100

http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=205.msg1096425#msg1096425 (http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=205.msg1096425#msg1096425)

Although I suspect it may be a higher power than the one I am running... would be interested to find out the specifications for the light... I have posted on mine in the past where I think the low beam is pretty good, maybe even better than pretty good but the high beam is lacking a little... had mine for a couple of years without any problems at all... bought it as a kit from JW speaker, they were great to deal with.

Damn Graydo your bike is hot... [drool]

For those not wanting to invest that much, I can def endorse the output of my version. And I have the opposite scenario as Graydo, my high beam is insanely bright. For those of us with baby and beater/low value Monsters it's a good way to go.

(http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g234/247prophet/bath5_zps8d47222d.jpg~original)

(http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g234/247prophet/bath2_zps2afdbde2.jpg~original)
Title: Re: Harley Daymaker LED headlight
Post by: greenohawk69 on September 25, 2013, 02:41:01 PM
Quote from: caperix on September 20, 2013, 05:51:32 AM
I have read some of the reviews on the new LED headlight harley is offering on their 2014 bikes & it seams to have great light output.  Harley offers it as a stand alone part for retrofit into older modles at a fairley reasonable price.
http://www.harley-davidson.com/store/led-headlamp-pa-11-7339010--1 (http://www.harley-davidson.com/store/led-headlamp-pa-11-7339010--1)
If you can live with your light saying Harley Davidson on the lense this may be a great lighting upgrade to those wanting to keep a 7" round headlight on the monster but with much increased light output.

If you try, I believe, Lakeshore Harley (IL) - you can generally get 20% off and shipped free.  I wound up getting this light for $320 shipped for my '97 Harley Dyna Wide Glide and am more than happy with the light output.  It is bright and is way better than the OEM halogen headlight.
Title: Re: Harley Daymaker LED headlight
Post by: caperix on September 26, 2013, 05:03:35 AM
I went with the JW Speaker 8700 evo in black.  It showed up the other day, I am just waiting on the adapter ring to install in the stock Monster bucket then I will post up some pictures.  I was happy to see that they redisigned the part from some of the pics I have seen online, it now as a large heat sink on the back of the light.
Title: Re: Harley Daymaker LED headlight
Post by: Rudemouthsky on September 26, 2013, 05:08:31 AM
This one?

(http://www.4wheelparts.com/aux_incl/images.ashx?i=0547331.jpg&partNo=J/W&w=400&h=400)

very cool... [drool] make sure you post up pics.
Title: Re: Harley Daymaker LED headlight
Post by: muskrat on September 26, 2013, 09:25:58 PM
Quote from: greenohawk69 on September 25, 2013, 02:41:01 PM
If you try, I believe, Lakeshore Harley (IL) - you can generally get 20% off and shipped free.  I wound up getting this light for $320 shipped for my '97 Harley Dyna Wide Glide and am more than happy with the light output.  It is bright and is way better than the OEM halogen headlight.
sorry to burst your cherry but I was in there a month ago and it's no longer available.  The parents in Milwaukee shut that 20% down....bastards.  I called them to make sure because I wanted to change my Electra Glide's lanterns and it's going to be almost a grand, pass.
Title: Re: Harley Daymaker LED headlight
Post by: caperix on October 01, 2013, 04:58:33 PM
I got the headlight installed on the bike tonight, no ride report yet but from what I can see it has a very good beam pattern with plenty of light output.

Here is the light on the bike, I think I need to paint the ring black now
(http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k126/bmeath/000_0001_zps9015467c.jpg)

Low beam
(http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k126/bmeath/000_0002_zpsc443d672.jpg)

High beam
(http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k126/bmeath/000_0003_zps3ae8aaef.jpg)
Title: Re: Harley Daymaker LED headlight
Post by: greenohawk69 on October 01, 2013, 05:05:14 PM
Quote from: muskrat on September 26, 2013, 09:25:58 PM
sorry to burst your cherry but I was in there a month ago and it's no longer available.  The parents in Milwaukee shut that 20% down....bastards.  I called them to make sure because I wanted to change my Electra Glide's lanterns and it's going to be almost a grand, pass.

Interesting.  Thought there were some that still were able to get around this.

Here is an LED headlight, Phase 7, by Truck-Lite on ebay:  http://www.ebay.com/itm/TRUCK-LITE-27270C-7-LED-HEADLIGHT-HEADLAMP-PHASE-7-HARLEY-PAR56-/161022514485 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/TRUCK-LITE-27270C-7-LED-HEADLIGHT-HEADLAMP-PHASE-7-HARLEY-PAR56-/161022514485)

Many peeps have used the Truck Lite Phase 7 and have been pleased.  Less expensive than $1,000.
Title: Re: Harley Daymaker LED headlight
Post by: Rudemouthsky on October 01, 2013, 05:26:20 PM
Quote from: greenohawk69 on October 01, 2013, 05:05:14 PM
Interesting.  Thought there were some that still were able to get around this.

Here is an LED headlight, Phase 7, by Truck-Lite on ebay:  http://www.ebay.com/itm/TRUCK-LITE-27270C-7-LED-HEADLIGHT-HEADLAMP-PHASE-7-HARLEY-PAR56-/161022514485 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/TRUCK-LITE-27270C-7-LED-HEADLIGHT-HEADLAMP-PHASE-7-HARLEY-PAR56-/161022514485)

Many peeps have used the Truck Lite Phase 7 and have been pleased.  Less expensive than $1,000.

I wonder if those would fit into a Monster bucket
Title: Re: Harley Daymaker LED headlight
Post by: caperix on October 01, 2013, 06:08:41 PM
Quote from: Buck Naked on October 01, 2013, 05:26:20 PM
I wonder if those would fit into a Monster bucket

It looks very similar to the LED kit Motowheels offers http://motowheels.com/i-9501009-mw-custom-led-headlight-7-inch.html (http://motowheels.com/i-9501009-mw-custom-led-headlight-7-inch.html)

so I would think with a 7" adapter it would fit.
Title: Re: Harley Daymaker LED headlight
Post by: Rudemouthsky on October 01, 2013, 06:56:29 PM
Quote from: caperix on October 01, 2013, 06:08:41 PM
It looks very similar to the LED kit Motowheels offers http://motowheels.com/i-9501009-mw-custom-led-headlight-7-inch.html (http://motowheels.com/i-9501009-mw-custom-led-headlight-7-inch.html)

so I would think with a 7" adapter it would fit.


Similar hell...its the exact same thing. I'm really kickin' myself, after buying the eBay knock off and new brackets I could have had this set up for around the same price.
Title: Re: Harley Daymaker LED headlight
Post by: greenohawk69 on October 02, 2013, 12:32:58 PM
Quote from: muskrat on September 26, 2013, 09:25:58 PM
sorry to burst your cherry but I was in there a month ago and it's no longer available.  The parents in Milwaukee shut that 20% down....bastards.  I called them to make sure because I wanted to change my Electra Glide's lanterns and it's going to be almost a grand, pass.

Try Kutter or Newcastle HD also. 
Title: Re: Harley Daymaker LED headlight
Post by: Heath on October 11, 2013, 06:12:11 PM
Quote from: caperix on September 26, 2013, 05:03:35 AM
I went with the JW Speaker 8700 evo in black.  It showed up the other day, I am just waiting on the adapter ring to install in the stock Monster bucket then I will post up some pictures.  I was happy to see that they redisigned the part from some of the pics I have seen online, it now as a large heat sink on the back of the light.
caperix I just want to confirm. Did you get your adapter ring from JW Speaker or Motowheels? Did you fit that light in the stock bucket?
Title: Re: Harley Daymaker LED headlight
Post by: caperix on October 12, 2013, 05:56:37 AM
I used the motowheels adapter, I could not find an adapter through JW speaker, but their website is a little hard to navigate.  It did all fit in the stock monster bucket, though the motowheels adapter says it will not fit the newer bikes with the plastic bucket.  The headlight does seam to bounce around more than stock but that may be that I can just see the beam better, once the clips are bent per the motowheels instructions the headlight is held tightly in the bucket.
Title: Re: Harley Daymaker LED headlight
Post by: RBX QB on October 15, 2013, 12:32:10 PM
Quote from: caperix on October 12, 2013, 05:56:37 AM
I used the motowheels adapter, I could not find an adapter through JW speaker, but their website is a little hard to navigate.  It did all fit in the stock monster bucket, though the motowheels adapter says it will not fit the newer bikes with the plastic bucket.  The headlight does seam to bounce around more than stock but that may be that I can just see the beam better, once the clips are bent per the motowheels instructions the headlight is held tightly in the bucket.

They gave you instructions with yours?! I just got a nice metal ring with a copy of the invoice.

Of course, I've made no attempt to use it yet, so I haven't bothered calling them to find instructions (but maybe I should before they stop selling adapters). Not sure duct tape would be the best mounting technique.  ;D
Title: Re: Harley Daymaker LED headlight
Post by: Rob Hilding on October 15, 2013, 12:42:24 PM
http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=64824.0 (http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=64824.0)
Title: Re: Harley Daymaker LED headlight
Post by: ChrisK on October 15, 2013, 02:50:38 PM
Why pay $300 when you can pay $186? I'm all for supporting vendors and all, but man...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/TRUCK-LITE-27270C-7-LED-HEADLIGHT-HEADLAMP-PHASE-7-HARLEY-PAR56-/161022514485 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/TRUCK-LITE-27270C-7-LED-HEADLIGHT-HEADLAMP-PHASE-7-HARLEY-PAR56-/161022514485)
Title: Re: Harley Daymaker LED headlight
Post by: Rudemouthsky on October 15, 2013, 04:07:41 PM
The extra $ is for the adaptor ring. Worth it, or can it be obtained for much less? I dunno...

Its prob the same kinda deal as their "Corse Dynamics" bottom mount headlight package. In that case you're getting a $50 aftermarket Harley light and paying $$$ for the billet bracket.  :-\
Title: Re: Harley Daymaker LED headlight
Post by: TitanMonsterS4R on October 15, 2013, 04:29:17 PM
I got the MW LED kit after getting the ballasts and everything from the RetroFitSource to modify my stock light.
For the MW kit, I used the foam packing that came with my Shorai battery to limit the amount of bouncing around. Worked perfectly.

I can now ride at night without fear of not being seen and it adds a different take as well with regular beam being the upper part of the light and full high beam being the entire circle.

Here's a pic with the MW light -

(http://i777.photobucket.com/albums/yy51/wbamiduro/Final%20Edition%20Stella/f1e26e64-5a5f-44b2-a7b8-21448a04a58c_zpscadfd23c.jpg)
Title: Re: Harley Daymaker LED headlight
Post by: caperix on October 16, 2013, 05:31:23 AM
Quote from: RBX QB on October 15, 2013, 12:32:10 PM
They gave you instructions with yours?! I just got a nice metal ring with a copy of the invoice.

Of course, I've made no attempt to use it yet, so I haven't bothered calling them to find instructions (but maybe I should before they stop selling adapters). Not sure duct tape would be the best mounting technique.  ;D

The adapter ring did not come with instructions, but Motowheels does post them on their website.
Title: Re: Harley Daymaker LED headlight
Post by: ChrisK on October 16, 2013, 06:17:00 AM
Quote from: Buck Naked on October 15, 2013, 04:07:41 PM
The extra $ is for the adaptor ring. Worth it, or can it be obtained for much less? I dunno...

Its prob the same kinda deal as their "Corse Dynamics" bottom mount headlight package. In that case you're getting a $50 aftermarket Harley light and paying $$$ for the billet bracket.  :-\

Pretty sure the adapter ring isn't included in that $299 price tag. They have a note at the bottom of the page saying you have to buy it separate. Unless I'm reading this wrong.