it's my first time to go down :(.
lost the bike while turning left from intersection.
lost control of the accelerator, got thrown off the bike.
bike spun by itself while on the ground.
Im able to stop it from spinning. Some cosmetic damage that can be fix.
Here's pics of some pieces from my bike and my helmet.
Had a great time at the Duc meet, it's nice to meet everyone :).
Regards to all!
(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll113/l7i7t7o/P7070064.jpg)
D'oh! That sucks, man. Sorry to hear it.
At least you've gotten your first fall out of the way, though! :)
awwww man.... that bites. Here's some [bacon]. Feel better. :)
Sorry to hear that :(, but glad you are not hurt. [thumbsup]
You might want to post up in the Crash Analysis thread (http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=119.0), it could be a good opportunity for you and others to learn from your mishap.
Quote from: 707soldier on July 07, 2008, 09:46:58 PM
lost the bike while turning left from intersection.
lost control of the accelerator, got thrown off the bike.
Just my quick assessment:
Basic principle of turning: countersteer = push bar in direction you want to turn. Example: to go left, push left. To go right, push right. (I'm leaving out the physics tech mumbo jumbo.)
Just from the minimal info given, it sounds like the right bar was pulled more than the left was pushed. You can accomplish a countersteer, of sorts, by pulling on the bar opposite of the direction you want to turn. Pulling on the right, to go left, will definitely have adverse effects on throttle action. Pull too hard, and you will accelerate faster than your tires can grip as you turn. This will be extremely exacerbated if you are taking a left from a stop. The throttle is opening faster than the bike can turn in, and the rear wheel is more likely to break traction.
Like I said, this is just my quick two cents.
Lesson learned: Good judgment comes from experience, and experience comes from bad judgment.
Quote from: duckwrench13 on July 07, 2008, 10:47:48 PM
Just my quick assessment:
Basic principle of turning: countersteer = push bar in direction you want to turn. Example: to go left, push left. To go right, push right. (I'm leaving out the physics tech mumbo jumbo.)
Just from the minimal info given, it sounds like the right bar was pulled more than the left was pushed. You can accomplish a countersteer, of sorts, by pulling on the bar opposite of the direction you want to turn. Pulling on the right, to go left, will definitely have adverse effects on throttle action. Pull too hard, and you will accelerate faster than your tires can grip as you turn. This will be extremely exacerbated if you are taking a left from a stop. The throttle is opening faster than the bike can turn in, and the rear wheel is more likely to break traction.
Like I said, this is just my quick two cents.
Lesson learned: Good judgment comes from experience, and experience comes from bad judgment.
You're good, that's exactly what happen to me on that intersection. Lesson learned, going to the dealer tomorrow to get some replacement parts.
thanks for the advise, it's greatly appreciated.
man, I'm glad you're ok, looking at your helmet I can't imagine how other people ride with half helmets :o. Hope you have a swift recovery and go get a new helmet too. Trash that sucka.
Quote from: labbedds on July 07, 2008, 11:33:18 PM
man, I'm glad you're ok, looking at your helmet I can't imagine how other people ride with half helmets :o. Hope you have a swift recovery and go get a new helmet too. Trash that sucka.
thanks, I'm thinking the same way. What happens with the half helmet Harley riders riding around, their will be messed up pretty bad.
I got my money back from my helmet, it did it's job, I'm retiring it.
Hey dude!
Sorry to hear about your crash. I'm glad to hear that you're OK and that you will ride as soon as you can.
It was nice meeting you today,
Delmar
Quote from: Delmar on July 07, 2008, 11:39:30 PM
Hey dude!
Sorry to hear about your crash. I'm glad to hear that you're OK and that you will ride as soon as you can.
It was nice meeting you today,
Delmar
thanks,
nice to meet you too, all is good just a few bruises.
oh, almost forgot get frame sliders too
I am glad your okay man. [thumbsup]
Full helmet for the Win. I really don't understand why ANYONE rides with a half helmet.
Don't feel bad. I dropped my bike leaving a Ducati Meet once. I stalled it leaving the parking lot and I tipped over LOL.
very sorry to read this report 707soldier ... glad you were not injured.
i am also sorry i could not make the ride up to the event this evening.
hope you get everything fixed in time to make it down to motogp.
a presto,
johnc
Phew! Glad to hear you're OK. As long as you take some lessons away from it, then it was a productive crash. But damn...a brand new 696.
Belle..ticker update time. And BTW, the last ticker update was mine :)
Just let us know when we can start pokin' fun of ya. ;)
sucks that you went down, it happends to most of us!
I remember you saying that this was your first bike, have you taken the MSF? It could help you avoid some costly endevours in the future. If you have already, then just get back on that horse and dont be skerd... take it slow and build your confidence back up.
[moto]
Sorry to hear, but glad you're ok. [wine]
You can borrow my Prius if you need. [cheeky]
Hey Lito,
It was nice meeting you yesterday - really sorry to hear about the crash but great to hear that you weren't hurt! The bike can always be fixed!
Ow! Glad to hear you're largely OK!
I find that I need to keep my shoulders and arms nice and loose and relaxed, otherwise any little bump or turn will accidentally send me jetting into warp 9. It's hard to do; I have to remind myself all the time...
Heal up and get back up! [moto]
Sorry to hear it man. Glad you’re ok and made it out anyway. You were awfully cheery when we met. Best way to brush it off. [thumbsup]
Riding I have found is collecting a LOT of knowledge. Its all about the details. The more you can learn the better time you’ll have.
One lesson: falling down and getting back up again √ CHECK√ done.
I hope the rest of your lessons are having fun, in a book and or riding classes. [thumbsup] [moto]
So when can the mocking begin? [cheeky]
You all made me feel better :) Thanks to all.
Brought the bike to ACE Motorsport this morning.
The bike will be up and running plus a few more CF stuff by this weekend.
I added CF front mudguard and CF center tank covers.
So after $2,000 worth of repairs and about $800 of accessories.
My baby will come back strong and beautiful. [thumbsup]
regards,
Lito
Quote from: 707soldier on July 08, 2008, 02:21:57 PM
...plus a few more CF stuff by this weekend... about $800 of accessories.
Not trying to sound like a jerk here, but wouldn't the $800 spent on bling be better used to get proper gear and take some additional instructional courses? Z2 does a "Road Rider 2.0" course. It's aimed at new riders who are looking to improve their day to day real world riding skills.
As proven by your spill, the Z2 RR2.0 course may have provided the knowledge to have avoided your mishap.
Carbon bits and shiny things won't make you a better/safer rider.
Just a suggestion.
I already have MSF class this weekend. Thanks for the offer.
Quote from: 707soldier on July 08, 2008, 03:20:10 PM
I already have MSF class this weekend. Thanks for the offer.
Just FYI, MSF is great only if you're going to never exceed 15 mph and stay in parking lots that don't have and obstacles larger then a 4" cone.
As Dan suggested, after your MSF look into the RoadRider course. They have one this weekend in Reno and the following weekend at T-Hill (willow, ca).
...and don't forget our wheelie clinics. The perfect example of how you shouldn't behave [evil]
:( Sorry to hear this, however glad you are fine... !! some how @&$# like this happens, fortunately you are ok and the bike can be fix.
Quote from: 707soldier on July 08, 2008, 03:20:10 PM
I already have MSF class this weekend. Thanks for the offer.
I'd say MSF is a good thing...for starters. But Dan's got a point about spending on good gear: I know we love shiny bits...the bug has hit us all. But make sure you're well-equipped (and well-insured) before you start with the bling. This ain't rock & Roll: safety comes before beauty.
BTW - The Dainese Store in San Francisco offers a discount for recent MSF grads. Contact DaineseDan or BikerGoddess on the board for details.
Quote from: desmoquattro on July 08, 2008, 03:54:20 PMBTW - The Dainese Store in San Francisco offers a discount for recent MSF grads. Contact DaineseDan or BikerGoddess on the board for details.
That's a pretty good deal, kudos to DaineseDan and Dainese SF for setting up such an offer for those just starting in the MC world.
Quote from: TCK! on July 08, 2008, 03:38:56 PM
Just FYI, MSF is great only if you're going to never exceed 15 mph and stay in parking lots that don't have and obstacles larger then a 4" cone.
As Dan suggested, after your MSF look into the RoadRider course. They have one this weekend in Reno and the following weekend at T-Hill (willow, ca).
I'll look to enrolling on the rider 2.0 [thumbsup].
I sure want to have all the tools that can help me to be a good rider.
Have start somewhere, Thanks! :)
Er....what do you have for gear? Do we need to have the ATGATT talk?
Quote from: someguy on July 08, 2008, 04:33:47 PM
Er....what do you have for gear? Do we need to have the ATGATT talk?
All The Gear, All The Time [thumbsup]
Bah who needs gear ???
I like to roll with a half Helmet, T-shirt and Flip Flops. How the hell are you suppose to ride in this heat wave ;D
Sorry to hear about the crash. Hope both you and the bike mend quickly and easily! The D Store offers a 10% discount (on anything in the store) within 90 days of passing the Basic Rider Course (bring your MSF card). Despite rumors, not everything at the D Store is expensive. There are some fantastic textile jackets on clearance for well under $200. A basic back protector is $69. See--quality, stylish gear doesn't have to cost a bundle. :)
707 - Sorry about the crash. I have your twin bike, 696 dark, also from Ace Motorsports. I was in there yesterday (had an oil leak problem) and I saw your bike. Hope you have it back and like new soon. [beer]
(http://i331.photobucket.com/albums/l451/rickcampbell/IMG_0269.jpg)
Quote from: seshboy on July 09, 2008, 06:05:19 PM
707 - Sorry about the crash. I have your twin bike, 696 dark, also from Ace Motorsports. I was in there yesterday (had an oil leak problem) and I saw your bike. Hope you have it back and like new soon. [beer]
(http://i331.photobucket.com/albums/l451/rickcampbell/IMG_0269.jpg)
seshboy,
For sure it's her twin, her sister is recuperating right now at ACE Hospital.
She'll be discharged in a few days. Thanks and enjoy your bike.
Lito
Quote from: ROBsS4R on July 08, 2008, 04:44:15 PM
Bah who needs gear ???
I like to roll with a half Helmet, T-shirt and Flip Flops. How the hell are you suppose to ride in this heat wave ;D
What? No shorts? At least wear a thong.
Quote from: mbalmer on July 09, 2008, 07:38:45 PM
What? No shorts? At least wear a thong.
Commando is the way to go [thumbsup]
Quote from: ROBsS4R on July 09, 2008, 08:00:24 PM
Commando is the way to go [thumbsup]
Well that's one way to keep the rest of us from sitting on your bike. :P
Dude. Sorry to hear about your crash and hope that you have a quick recovery. I too am a new rider, bought my 696 from Ace as well, but took the MSF course before I got the bike. I figure that as long as I'm going to ride, I'd better do it safely and with the proper gear. I also bought a book, Proficient Motorcyling, that serves me well. I haven't added any bling to my bike yet and will "reward" me and my bike later with CF pipes, but for now, it's only the frame sliders. Lucky for me, I enjoy smooth roads in the Danville/San Ramon hills with little traffic to practice. Hope to see you on the roads sometime.
I have a Twist of the Wrist on DVD if anyone wants to set it on fire or use it as a Beer coaster.... Err I ment watch it ;D
Just be sure to watch the non comedic version on the DVD or you may commit suicide before the movie is done.
Geez, sorry about the down, glad you're physically able to get back up quick and financially able to do the repairs so soon.
I gotta say, i just noticed this - is that a FACE print on the helmet shield? :o
Quote from: m0t0g0th on July 13, 2008, 08:40:31 PM
Geez, sorry about the down, glad you're physically able to get back up quick and financially able to do the repairs so soon.
I gotta say, i just noticed this - is that a FACE print on the helmet shield? :o
It's more like an asphalt roadrash print.
Quote from: 707soldier on July 13, 2008, 10:31:00 PM
It's more like an asphalt roadrash print.
Ah, i thought i saw a face mash on the inside, couldn't quite parse how that would be possible..
I've heard people see faces anywhere there's a reasonably close pattern though, so that explains my bad brains on that one.
Still- chilling- glad you're up and about. ^_^
Quote from: m0t0g0th on July 13, 2008, 11:21:28 PM
Ah, i thought i saw a face mash on the inside, couldn't quite parse how that would be possible..
Now that you mention it, I kind of see a face there, too. Maybe it's the Virgin Mary!
Quote from: x136 on July 13, 2008, 11:39:19 PM
Now that you mention it, I kind of see a face there, too. Maybe it's the Virgin Mary!
+1
Maybe it's the reflection of the person taking the picture?
Quote from: x136 on July 13, 2008, 11:39:19 PM
Now that you mention it, I kind of see a face there, too. Maybe it's the Virgin Mary!
It could be sold on eBay for a bazillion dollars [thumbsup].