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Title: Talk me out of buying this NEW 2010 SF1098S for $14,999
Post by: Rudemouthsky on November 18, 2013, 10:47:35 AM
Its RED, and I have the application filled out and signed. I have this swimmy, lusty feeling in my chest and head which often precedes doing something I later regret. I haven't attempted to negotiate a better price or have any service included.

It's RED and it's an S model by the way.



Title: Re: Talk me out of buying this NEW 2010 SF1098S for $14,999
Post by: zooom on November 18, 2013, 10:49:58 AM
it won't be very good for your Cleveland to South America trip
Title: Re: Talk me out of buying this NEW 2010 SF1098S for $14,999
Post by: Rudemouthsky on November 18, 2013, 10:55:51 AM
Quote from: zooom on November 18, 2013, 10:49:58 AM
it won't be very good for your Cleveland to South America trip

Oh, it'd be fine. And Cleveland to Costa Rica just became San Antonio to Mexico City. :)
Title: Re: Talk me out of buying this NEW 2010 SF1098S for $14,999
Post by: ChrisK on November 18, 2013, 11:34:42 AM
That would quickly solve your problems you're having the the 900… and quickly solve your problem of lusting after more power… what did you say you wanted to be talked out of?
Title: Re: Talk me out of buying this NEW 2010 SF1098S for $14,999
Post by: MikeZ on November 18, 2013, 11:42:48 AM
And being a new bike there's lot less of a chance you will have a problem with it.
Title: Re: Talk me out of buying this NEW 2010 SF1098S for $14,999
Post by: Rudemouthsky on November 18, 2013, 11:44:59 AM
I have never in my life bought a new bike. And I really dig that this is going to be a very hard to obtain model within a few years. I think buying new bikes and spending 5 figures is insanity, but I also like leaving no possibility at regret, aside from the $$$$ lost. The itch is never going away so I may as well scratch it.
Title: Re: Talk me out of buying this NEW 2010 SF1098S for $14,999
Post by: Rudemouthsky on November 18, 2013, 11:46:27 AM
Quote from: MikeZ on November 18, 2013, 11:42:48 AM
And being a new bike there's lot less of a chance you will have a problem with it.


And yeah, this. And 15k service intervals and a warranty sound very niiiice too.
Title: Re: Talk me out of buying this NEW 2010 SF1098S for $14,999
Post by: pesto on November 18, 2013, 11:46:47 AM
Asking to be talked out of a bike on this forum is like asking for dating advice in a WoW raid. You're on your own bud.
Title: Re: Talk me out of buying this NEW 2010 SF1098S for $14,999
Post by: geoffduc on November 18, 2013, 11:52:33 AM
Buck just go out and buy it you won't be disappointed I know that I've never regretted buying mine and over here its pound notes not dollars so to me its a bargain... [thumbsup]

Geoff... [coffee]
Title: Re: Talk me out of buying this NEW 2010 SF1098S for $14,999
Post by: Grampa on November 18, 2013, 12:05:19 PM
all your friends are doing it
Title: Re: Talk me out of buying this NEW 2010 SF1098S for $14,999
Post by: Rudemouthsky on November 18, 2013, 12:53:37 PM
Just makin sure its not overpriced and its a good brand :D.
Title: Re: Talk me out of buying this NEW 2010 SF1098S for $14,999
Post by: HotIce on November 18, 2013, 01:20:44 PM
Quote from: Buck Naked on November 18, 2013, 10:47:35 AM
Its RED, and I have the application filled out and signed. I have this swimmy, lusty feeling in my chest and head which often precedes doing something I later regret. I haven't attempted to negotiate a better price or have any service included.

It's RED and it's an S model by the way.
Bought four bikes in two years. I am likely not your best advisor  ;D
Title: Re: Talk me out of buying this NEW 2010 SF1098S for $14,999
Post by: ChrisK on November 18, 2013, 01:43:59 PM
Why the 1098 over the 848? Seems like the 848 would make the correct amount of power for you/ anyone looking to shred around an urban environment… and be a lesser investment.
Title: Re: Talk me out of buying this NEW 2010 SF1098S for $14,999
Post by: joshuajcrouch on November 18, 2013, 02:02:17 PM
Am I missing something obvious... its a new bike but has been sitting for the last 4 years?
Title: Re: Talk me out of buying this NEW 2010 SF1098S for $14,999
Post by: SpikeC on November 18, 2013, 02:10:20 PM
 Those bikes are ugly, too..........
Title: Re: Talk me out of buying this NEW 2010 SF1098S for $14,999
Post by: Travman on November 18, 2013, 03:02:24 PM
KBB says $13,090.
Title: Re: Talk me out of buying this NEW 2010 SF1098S for $14,999
Post by: Rudemouthsky on November 18, 2013, 03:47:37 PM
Quote from: ChrisK on November 18, 2013, 01:43:59 PM
Why the 1098 over the 848? Seems like the 848 would make the correct amount of power for you/ anyone looking to shred around an urban environment… and be a lesser investment.

Chris - its the price. A new 848 would cost about the same OTD. I still absolutely adore the SF848.

Joshua- weird, right? The dealer said they had FOUR of them and just sent 2 to auction.
Title: Re: Talk me out of buying this NEW 2010 SF1098S for $14,999
Post by: danaid on November 18, 2013, 04:10:21 PM
 There has been one at my local dealer for $1000 less OTD. I almost bought it on several occasions, but I greatly dislike the frame color and that what I have read about those bikes are the 10' seemed to have the most problems with the F.I. And tank swelling.
Title: Re: Talk me out of buying this NEW 2010 SF1098S for $14,999
Post by: koko64 on November 18, 2013, 04:15:44 PM
Quote from: ChrisK on November 18, 2013, 01:43:59 PM
Why the 1098 over the 848? Seems like the 848 would make the correct amount of power for you/ anyone looking to shred around an urban environment… and be a lesser investment.

You are absolutely right, but he don't want the nice girl next door,..
he wants the porn star!  [evil]
Title: Re: Talk me out of buying this NEW 2010 SF1098S for $14,999
Post by: theoneillusion on November 18, 2013, 04:21:05 PM
Four years collecting dust and they've sent two off for auction? You've got some major bargaining power there, but if you go in with that hard to resist starry-eyed gotta have it look you're a gonner. Do you know what the two that went to auction went for?
Title: Re: Talk me out of buying this NEW 2010 SF1098S for $14,999
Post by: Travman on November 18, 2013, 04:23:00 PM
I rode the SF1098 with the Termi's and ECU installed.  It was a great bike.  I would prefer to get one with that already done instead of a brand new, stock one.  Once you buy it, it will simply be a four year old used bike.  A year from now your new bike will be worth a little less than a similar SF with the Termis and ECU already installed.  Also it won't be as enjoyable.  
Title: Re: Talk me out of buying this NEW 2010 SF1098S for $14,999
Post by: DRKWNG on November 18, 2013, 05:57:10 PM
SHUT IT Travis!! 

;D

Title: Re: Talk me out of buying this NEW 2010 SF1098S for $14,999
Post by: Travman on November 18, 2013, 06:20:57 PM
Quote from: DRKWNG on November 18, 2013, 05:57:10 PM
SHUT IT Travis!! 

;D


What?   He said he wanted to be talked out of it.  ;D
Title: Re: Talk me out of buying this NEW 2010 SF1098S for $14,999
Post by: joshuajcrouch on November 18, 2013, 06:32:03 PM
Quote from: theoneillusion on November 18, 2013, 04:21:05 PM
Four years collecting dust and they've sent two off for auction? You've got some major bargaining power there, but if you go in with that hard to resist starry-eyed gotta have it look you're a gonner. Do you know what the two that went to auction went for?

I hate to say it... but THIS.  If its been sitting for 4 years I wouldn't really call it a brand new bike.  If anything something that has been ridden lightly for the last 4 years might be in better condition.  I don't think this is a bad move on your part, I would just hope that you are negotiating them down on the price.
Title: Re: Talk me out of buying this NEW 2010 SF1098S for $14,999
Post by: Rudemouthsky on November 18, 2013, 07:30:47 PM
Yeah I'm not so stoked on it after some deep thinking. Plus it's not the right color. I still would like at least a partial warranty. Looks like I can get low mileage 848's with close to the full 2 years all day long for around $10,500, and low mileage F1098S's for around $12,500.

I just remember how I dawdled on the Sport Classic I wanted when they were 8k, then out of nowhere they became desirable and shot through the roof. I want to be impulsive, and not *too* stupid in the process.

And I wasn't kidding about wanting talked out of it. The last time I had this fun/excited/breathless feeling in my gut before a major purchase I wound up divorced and on my parents couch 3 months later. :D
Title: Re: Talk me out of buying this NEW 2010 SF1098S for $14,999
Post by: koko64 on November 18, 2013, 08:13:03 PM
OK. Yep, in 1986 I didnt listen to my gut and the same thing happened.
Get a used SF with all the goodies on it. .Save big $$$ on depreciation and the Termi kit. [thumbsup]
Title: Re: Talk me out of buying this NEW 2010 SF1098S for $14,999
Post by: DRKWNG on November 18, 2013, 08:24:26 PM
If the bike is NOS, as in never titled, you will still get the full warranty with purchase.
Title: Re: Talk me out of buying this NEW 2010 SF1098S for $14,999
Post by: muskrat on November 18, 2013, 09:11:58 PM
Quote from: Buck Naked on November 18, 2013, 07:30:47 PM
Yeah I'm not so stoked on it after some deep thinking. Plus it's not the right color. I still would like at least a partial warranty. Looks like I can get low mileage 848's with close to the full 2 years all day long for around $10,500, and low mileage F1098S's for around $12,500.

I just remember how I dawdled on the Sport Classic I wanted when they were 8k, then out of nowhere they became desirable and shot through the roof. I want to be impulsive, and not *too* stupid in the process.

And I wasn't kidding about wanting talked out of it. The last time I had this fun/excited/breathless feeling in my gut before a major purchase I wound up divorced and on my parents couch 3 months later. :D
divorce is worth it [thumbsup]
now man-up and buy a shiny toy for yourself and remember that it, either, has a dry clutch.  [Dolph]
Title: Re: Talk me out of buying this NEW 2010 SF1098S for $14,999
Post by: minnesotamonster on November 18, 2013, 09:33:42 PM
Id pass. Find a clean low mileage used one with extras for a few thousand less.

Example:

http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/hnp/mcy/4151257471.html (http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/hnp/mcy/4151257471.html)
Title: Re: Talk me out of buying this NEW 2010 SF1098S for $14,999
Post by: koko64 on November 18, 2013, 11:04:52 PM
Checked it out.  Nice one.
Title: Re: Talk me out of buying this NEW 2010 SF1098S for $14,999
Post by: Travman on November 19, 2013, 06:11:50 AM
Quote from: minnesotamonster on November 18, 2013, 09:33:42 PM
Id pass. Find a clean low mileage used one with extras for a few thousand less.

Example:

http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/hnp/mcy/4151257471.html (http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/hnp/mcy/4151257471.html)

That is the one I would get. It has just been properly broken in and serviced. It has a lot of the high quality (expensive) mods that most people like. It is already $3K less expensive and that is negotiable.  Time for a road trip.
Title: Re: Talk me out of buying this NEW 2010 SF1098S for $14,999
Post by: ChrisK on November 19, 2013, 06:19:39 AM
Just saw this one as well: http://quadcities.craigslist.org/mcd/4141044086.html (http://quadcities.craigslist.org/mcd/4141044086.html)

I'm pushing for you to pull the trigger so that you might part-out your 900  ;D
Title: Re: Talk me out of buying this NEW 2010 SF1098S for $14,999
Post by: Rudemouthsky on November 19, 2013, 07:14:02 AM
Quote from: minnesotamonster on November 18, 2013, 09:33:42 PM
Id pass. Find a clean low mileage used one with extras for a few thousand less.

Example:

http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/hnp/mcy/4151257471.html (http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/hnp/mcy/4151257471.html)

[drool] THAT is a nice one..
Title: Re: Talk me out of buying this NEW 2010 SF1098S for $14,999
Post by: webspoke on November 19, 2013, 08:37:24 AM
Get it if you can budget in the ecu flash and and exhaust ($2k or so).  Otherwise find one with the goodies installed.  It is also not a true 15k service interval, the valve check is still due every 7500, and it is a 4 figure job  :-[
Title: Re: Talk me out of buying this NEW 2010 SF1098S for $14,999
Post by: Rudemouthsky on November 19, 2013, 09:42:01 AM
Quote from: webspoke on November 19, 2013, 08:37:24 AM
Get it if you can budget in the ecu flash and and exhaust ($2k or so).  Otherwise find one with the goodies installed.  It is also not a true 15k service interval, the valve check is still due every 7500, and it is a 4 figure job  :-[

The the Testra in the 848 is a "true" 15k service interval, no? I guess I'd still want to at least check the valves more frequently. Another thing about buying used that makes me nervous is whether or not it was properly broken in. A new bike = lots of inner peace.

The addition of ABS and all the brake and suspension goodies on the 1098S is more appealing to me than the engine. All that stuff is close to ten grand purchased and installed separately.
Title: Re: Talk me out of buying this NEW 2010 SF1098S for $14,999
Post by: Rudemouthsky on November 19, 2013, 10:04:54 AM
Oh and thanks very much guys for the links to the preowned SFS's. Makes it really tough to buy new when you see $5000 worth of mods you'd have done anyway, and a price several thousand dollars lower.
Title: Re: Talk me out of buying this NEW 2010 SF1098S for $14,999
Post by: thought on November 19, 2013, 10:24:41 AM
I love my '10 SFS and I would suggest going used too... I managed to find mine with some basic mods done (speedymoto sliders all around and a yoyodyne slave) with 4k miles, 2 yrs old for 12,750.

Things you're going to to have to look out for is a possible dead spot around the 4k rpm range... it's a major complaint that a lot of SF1098 owners have that can be fixed via flashing or other assorted methods... then again, a lot of people also dont ever experience it (e.g. me).  And naturally, if it's been sitting a while, check for tank swelling and caswell it after you get a new one if possible.

you can see/hear mine in this vid... put in a speedymoto clutch cover and slave + zard full system + dp full system reflash via ducatidiag and called it a day. :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RoIJopz15nw
Title: Re: Talk me out of buying this NEW 2010 SF1098S for $14,999
Post by: Travman on November 19, 2013, 10:37:15 AM
Earlier today I drove by the Ducati dealer and saw the SF848 demo that sits outside. I test rode that bike last spring. That is the Streetfighter model I would choose. The Streetfighter looks best with a red frame and bodywork. It handles great and the brakes are wonderful.  I remember the power was strong. With the SF848 you get to enjoy the acceleration longer before you have to back off the throttle when compared to the SF1098.
Title: Re: Talk me out of buying this NEW 2010 SF1098S for $14,999
Post by: Rudemouthsky on November 19, 2013, 10:53:27 AM
Quote from: thought on November 19, 2013, 10:24:41 AM
I love my '10 SFS and I would suggest going used too... I managed to find mine with some basic mods done (speedymoto sliders all around and a yoyodyne slave) with 4k miles, 2 yrs old for 12,750.

Things you're going to to have to look out for is a possible dead spot around the 4k rpm range... it's a major complaint that a lot of SF1098 owners have that can be fixed via flashing or other assorted methods... then again, a lot of people also dont ever experience it (e.g. me).  And naturally, if it's been sitting a while, check for tank swelling and caswell it after you get a new one if possible.

you can see/hear mine in this vid... put in a speedymoto clutch cover and slave + zard full system + dp full system reflash via ducatidiag and called it a day. :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RoIJopz15nw

I'd be perfectly happy if not happier with the 848 mill but I really want those S upgrades and the dry clutch. I have a barely used Ducabike slipper in my 900 that I'd swap right in first thing.

Sounds fantastic. They look awesome with the titanium colored frame as well. Zard makes the coolest looking exhausts.
Title: Re: Talk me out of buying this NEW 2010 SF1098S for $14,999
Post by: SpikeC on November 19, 2013, 02:25:51 PM
 Do they include the new belts that are required due to time?
Title: Re: Talk me out of buying this NEW 2010 SF1098S for $14,999
Post by: scaramanga on November 20, 2013, 03:00:19 PM
I just bought a 2011 SF1098 on saturday.
After driving it for a full day before putting away for the winter i can honestly say, theres no way you'll regret buying it no matter how much you pay!
Title: Re: Talk me out of buying this NEW 2010 SF1098S for $14,999
Post by: koko64 on November 20, 2013, 03:06:43 PM
Maybe I'm gettin' old, but get the safety pack model for sure.
Title: Re: Talk me out of buying this NEW 2010 SF1098S for $14,999
Post by: Rudemouthsky on November 20, 2013, 05:02:59 PM
Quote from: koko64 on November 20, 2013, 03:06:43 PM
Maybe I'm gettin' old, but get the safety pack model for sure.

haha...I agree. I want ABS and DTC. But only because I think I could get away with being a bigger idiot. Errr hooligan.
Title: Re: Talk me out of buying this NEW 2010 SF1098S for $14,999
Post by: hbliam on November 20, 2013, 05:12:43 PM
Quote from: Buck Naked on November 20, 2013, 05:02:59 PM
haha...I agree. I want ABS and DTC. But only because I think I could get away with being a bigger idiot. Errr hooligan.

Yep, the safety pack just makes it easier to ride on the edge with a bit more confidence. Highly recommended.