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Title: WTF Netflix
Post by: Speeddog on December 26, 2013, 02:28:13 PM
Recently re-subscribed, but I'm having flashbacks of why I stopped....

Lappy PC with Win7, Firefox 26.0, Silverlight 5.1.20913.0
2.2 GHz CPU, 2 GB RAM.
C-drive has 37 GB free.
With Firefox browser open, it'll be under 10% CPU activity, and 1.1 GB memory in use.

Open a Netflix tab, click on a movie, and it will stream fine.
CPU activity will settle down to ~50% while streaming, with 1.2 GB memory in use.
While streaming, if I try to move forward or backward, it will start buffering, but CPU activity will go 100% and it won't finish.

Internet chat on the netflix helpline ended with them suggesting that I back up all my files and re-format the hard-drive.
I'm not happy with that proposed solution.
Title: Re: WTF Netflix
Post by: Speeddog on December 26, 2013, 02:45:31 PM
Oh, I've got a weekly defragment set, and I re-checked all drives, 0% fragmented.
Title: Re: WTF Netflix
Post by: duccarlos on December 26, 2013, 02:54:28 PM
Never had an issue with it
Title: Re: WTF Netflix
Post by: ute on December 26, 2013, 03:35:11 PM
Not sure why you guys keep paying for Netflix.......... XBMC has every thing you want need or even thought about

Including all MotoGP and WSBK , IOMTT

every PPV event

Every movie

live TV

Every TV series ever made

xbmchub.com

xunitytalk.com
Title: Re: WTF Netflix
Post by: d3vi@nt on December 26, 2013, 05:25:55 PM
I've been seeing the same issue with IE. I switched to Chrome and had much better luck, though it hasn't been perfect.
Title: Re: WTF Netflix
Post by: ab on December 29, 2013, 04:31:02 PM
Quote from: ute on December 26, 2013, 03:35:11 PM
Not sure why you guys keep paying for Netflix.......... XBMC has every thing you want need or even thought about

Including all MotoGP and WSBK , IOMTT

every PPV event

Every movie

live TV

Every TV series ever made

xbmchub.com

xunitytalk.com


Not aware of this websites.  I just always assume they are ridden with malware, spyware and so on.  How's you experience?
Title: Re: WTF Netflix
Post by: ute on December 30, 2013, 03:44:29 PM
Honestly it is life changing !!

I have not paid for cable / satellite in years

As an example I watched the UFC fight the other night

Capt Phillips in HD

Saving Mr Banks in HD last night

All for free ( I use a Raspberry Pi ) but any laptop with HDMI will work 
Title: Re: WTF Netflix
Post by: scaramanga on December 31, 2013, 02:25:56 PM
SD
Try installing the latest ver of FF and update all addons(silverlite, flash etc..). In FF advanced options uncheck "use advanced hardware acceleration".

QuoteNot aware of this websites.  I just always assume they are ridden with malware, spyware and so on.  How's you experience?
During installation of XMBC If you DECLINE the installation of all third party softwares you'll be good.s


happy new year guys   [wine]
Title: Re: WTF Netflix
Post by: abby normal on December 31, 2013, 04:22:09 PM
Ok, I guess I'll say it.  It's free (e.g. In the case of 'saving
Mr banks') in the sense of 'i stole it so it didn't cost me
Anything'.
Title: Re: WTF Netflix
Post by: Speeddog on December 31, 2013, 04:56:57 PM
Quote from: scaramanga on December 31, 2013, 02:25:56 PM
SD
Try installing the latest ver of FF and update all addons(silverlite, flash etc..). In FF advanced options uncheck "use advanced hardware acceleration".
~~~SNIP~~~

Thanks!

I tried that, it's still locking up in NetFlix when stepping forward or back.

It apppears that Shockwave Flash is getting into a fistfight with something, as I'll get a script warning.
Title: Re: WTF Netflix
Post by: hbliam on December 31, 2013, 04:59:53 PM
Isn't using these "free" methods theft?
Title: Re: WTF Netflix
Post by: ducpainter on December 31, 2013, 05:02:42 PM
Quote from: hbliam on December 31, 2013, 04:59:53 PM
Isn't using these "free" methods theft?
You wanting to arrest someone on New Years Eve? ;D
Title: Re: WTF Netflix
Post by: hbliam on December 31, 2013, 05:11:28 PM
Quote from: ducpainter on December 31, 2013, 05:02:42 PM
You wanting to arrest someone on New Years Eve? ;D

Been there, done that.

Title: Re: WTF Netflix
Post by: d3vi@nt on January 01, 2014, 11:44:11 AM
Quote from: Speeddog on December 31, 2013, 04:56:57 PM
Thanks!

I tried that, it's still locking up in NetFlix when stepping forward or back.

It apppears that Shockwave Flash is getting into a fistfight with something, as I'll get a script warning.

Did you give Chrome a try?
Title: Re: WTF Netflix
Post by: swampduc on January 01, 2014, 03:11:05 PM
Quote from: abby normal on December 31, 2013, 04:22:09 PM
Ok, I guess I'll say it.  It's free (e.g. In the case of 'saving
Mr banks') in the sense of 'i stole it so it didn't cost me
Anything'.

[thumbsup]
Theft is theft, but let the rationalization commence  ;)
Title: Re: WTF Netflix
Post by: ute on January 01, 2014, 03:29:17 PM
seriously...Yes its free

Just watched American Hustle DVD quality

Theft ..I would not call it theft it is all available on line....... XBMC just puts it at your finger tips   ..and the way the entertainment industry rips us off ..think of it as a equalizer

If you guys want to keep paying cable / satellite / netflix ..go ahead
Title: Re: WTF Netflix
Post by: scaramanga on January 01, 2014, 04:11:38 PM
SD
try an older ver of flash.
Quotehttp://helpx.adobe.com/shockwave/kb/stand-alone-installers-shockwave-player.html
flash/firefox knowledge base articles that might help.
Quotehttp://kb.mozillazine.org/Macromedia_Flash



Title: Re: WTF Netflix
Post by: d3vi@nt on January 01, 2014, 04:40:09 PM
Shouldn't be a Flash issue though, since NF uses Silverlight or HTML 5

You can check your Playback settings under your account profile. Try changing it to Auto or a lower quality setting, and/or try toggling between HTML 5 and Silverlight.
Title: Re: WTF Netflix
Post by: scaramanga on January 02, 2014, 07:57:34 AM
agreed, but he's getting errors related to flash.

SD
if you right click on the movie you should get a silverlite tab to appear. double click that and goto playback tab and uncheck hardware acceleration.
Title: Re: WTF Netflix
Post by: LMT on January 02, 2014, 08:01:23 AM
Quote from: ute on January 01, 2014, 03:29:17 PM
seriously...Yes its free

Just watched American Hustle DVD quality

Theft ..I would not call it theft it is all available on line....... XBMC just puts it at your finger tips   ..and the way the entertainment industry rips us off ..think of it as a equalizer

If you guys want to keep paying cable / satellite / netflix ..go ahead

It is stealing.
Title: Re: WTF Netflix
Post by: Speeddog on January 02, 2014, 10:54:56 AM
Quote from: D3vi@nt on January 01, 2014, 11:44:11 AM
Did you give Chrome a try?

I tried Chrome last night, it works just as well as FF but still the same lockup on step forward/back in the video.

I've been running without hardware acceleration for a couple days, no impact on playback quality, but I still have the lockup.

Toggled to HTML5, no love there, still locks up.

I'll experiment more, thanks for the help scaramanga and Deviant.  [beer]
Title: Re: WTF Netflix
Post by: hbliam on January 02, 2014, 01:32:33 PM
Quote from: ute on January 01, 2014, 03:29:17 PM
seriously...Yes its free

Just watched American Hustle DVD quality

Theft ..I would not call it theft it is all available on line....... XBMC just puts it at your finger tips   ..and the way the entertainment industry rips us off ..think of it as a equalizer

If you guys want to keep paying cable / satellite / netflix ..go ahead

If you want to keep being a thief..go ahead.
Title: Re: WTF Netflix
Post by: ducpainter on January 02, 2014, 01:36:16 PM
Let's keep this to helping Nick solve his issues with a paid subscription service...

K?
Title: Re: WTF Netflix
Post by: ute on January 02, 2014, 04:34:52 PM
agreed
Title: Re: WTF Netflix
Post by: 1.21GW on January 02, 2014, 09:53:52 PM
I just bought a new blu-ray player ($70) because I gave my old one away.  In addition to playing DVDs, it has Netflix, Hulu+, Amazon Prime Streaming, NBA league pass, Vudu, and almost 100 other apps/programs.  Obviously, each one is a paid service that I can elect to have or not, but I use it for Netflix and a few others and it's great without any worries about CPU speed, etc.  Plus, I watch on my TV (42") rather than my laptop (13").

Anyway, if you're set on Netflix and not bound to your computer, I recommend it or something similar device (roku, appleTV, etc.).  Just a thought that may avoid the issues you're facing.  Obviously, an investment is involved, but worth it in my experience.

Title: Re: WTF Netflix
Post by: derby on January 03, 2014, 04:12:19 AM
you can use the following (in windowed mode, not full-screen) to access diagnostic information from the steam/player:

Ctrl+Shift+Alt+M â€" Menu; includes loading custom .dfxp sub-title files.
Ctrl+Shift+Alt+C â€" Codes; frame rate plus other (unknown to me) info. Also makes the other overlays green.
Ctrl+Shift+Alt+D â€" Display A/V Stats on-screen
Ctrl+Shift+Alt+L â€" Logging window
Ctrl+Shift+Alt+P â€" Player info
Ctrl+Shift+Alt+R â€" toggle color Rotation for overlays in Chrome; probably a debugging feature.
Ctrl+Shift+Alt+S â€" current Streaming bit-rate and manual bit-rate selection

Title: Re: WTF Netflix
Post by: MendoDave on January 03, 2014, 04:31:59 AM
Quote from: 1.21GW on January 02, 2014, 09:53:52 PM
I just bought a new blu-ray player ($70) because I gave my old one away.  In addition to playing DVDs, it has Netflix, Hulu+, Amazon Prime Streaming, NBA league pass, Vudu, and almost 100 other apps/programs.  Obviously, each one is a paid service that I can elect to have or not, but I use it for Netflix and a few others and it's great without any worries about CPU speed, etc.  Plus, I watch on my TV (42") rather than my laptop (13").

Anyway, if you're set on Netflix and not bound to your computer, I recommend it or something similar device (roku, appleTV, etc.).  Just a thought that may avoid the issues you're facing.  Obviously, an investment is involved, but worth it in my experience.



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Title: Re: WTF Netflix
Post by: Speeddog on January 03, 2014, 09:36:47 AM
Quote from: derby on January 03, 2014, 04:12:19 AM
you can use the following (in windowed mode, not full-screen) to access diagnostic information from the steam/player:

Ctrl+Shift+Alt+M â€" Menu; includes loading custom .dfxp sub-title files.
Ctrl+Shift+Alt+C â€" Codes; frame rate plus other (unknown to me) info. Also makes the other overlays green.
Ctrl+Shift+Alt+D â€" Display A/V Stats on-screen
Ctrl+Shift+Alt+L â€" Logging window
Ctrl+Shift+Alt+P â€" Player info
Ctrl+Shift+Alt+R â€" toggle color Rotation for overlays in Chrome; probably a debugging feature.
Ctrl+Shift+Alt+S â€" current Streaming bit-rate and manual bit-rate selection


Is that Chrome only, or FF only, or any browser?
Title: Re: WTF Netflix
Post by: ducatiz on January 03, 2014, 10:06:42 AM
Quote from: Speeddog on December 26, 2013, 02:28:13 PM
Internet chat on the netflix helpline ended with them suggesting that I back up all my files and re-format the hard-drive.
I'm not happy with that proposed solution.


What is the actual problem if that is the solution??
Title: Re: WTF Netflix
Post by: derby on January 03, 2014, 10:38:34 AM
Quote from: Speeddog on January 03, 2014, 09:36:47 AM
Is that Chrome only, or FF only, or any browser?

for the netflix browser app.
Title: Re: WTF Netflix
Post by: Speeddog on January 03, 2014, 10:41:55 AM
Quote from: ducatiz on January 03, 2014, 10:06:42 AM
What is the actual problem if that is the solution??

No idea.

The "Nuke From Orbit" solution seemed overly drastic.
Title: Re: WTF Netflix
Post by: d3vi@nt on January 03, 2014, 07:44:44 PM
I'm running out of bullets.

Try starting FF in Safe Mode and see if that works any better:
https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/troubleshoot-firefox-issues-using-safe-mode

If you're on wi-fi, try it plugged in/cabled. If you haven't rebooted your modem/router/firewall in a while, give it/them a bounce by shutting down and pulling the power for a bit, then reconnecting in proper order.

If you're using wired, check the NIC (ethernet adapter) properties and disable the power saving mode.

If you're using wi-fi, check the wireless adapter and try maxing out the power settings.

Try streaming on another good wi-fi network (campus, bookstore, friends house, etc.) and see if it works better or worse.

Finally, if Flash is still being a booger, they have an uninstaller that does better clean-up than the standard Add-Remove Programs manuever. You do have to search for it for a bit though...

Good luck.
Title: Re: WTF Netflix
Post by: scaramanga on January 04, 2014, 03:47:46 PM
QuoteFinally, if Flash is still being a booger, they have an uninstaller that does better clean-up than the standard Add-Remove Programs manuever. You do have to search for it for a bit though...

its on that link i posted
Title: Re: WTF Netflix
Post by: derby on January 05, 2014, 11:36:34 AM
note: netflix doesn't use flash, it uses microsoft silverlight.

i'd recommend looking for steaming info and/or log messages (using the key-combos above) while scrubbing a video to see if that sheds any more light on the issue.