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Title: RS125
Post by: jswledhed on July 10, 2008, 02:58:23 PM
Coming to America.[clap]

http://www.motorcycledaily.com/09july08_aprilia_rs125.htm (http://www.motorcycledaily.com/09july08_aprilia_rs125.htm)

Skinny track junkies rejoice! ;D
Title: Re: RS125
Post by: rsoffar on July 10, 2008, 03:03:26 PM
ill take one please.  [thumbsup]
in the blue color.
Title: Re: RS125
Post by: matt922 on July 10, 2008, 03:12:05 PM
awwwwwwwwwsuuummmmmmmmm.

any idea on target price? any idea what they sell for in euros or pounds?

track bike only....boooooo
Title: Re: RS125
Post by: Ducatiloo on July 10, 2008, 03:34:17 PM
What a cute back seat! Riding Bite sized cupcake
Title: Re: RS125
Post by: Dana on July 10, 2008, 04:00:28 PM
Them babies are street legal here in Japan!

They go for around $5000 new.

http://www.goobike.com/cgi-bin/search/spread.cgi?8501144B30080114001+

I was actually eyeballing the 250's before I got my 996S, but knew I would still be looking at getting a Ducati anyways.

Look like fun little bikes!

Dana

ps, can you say tail chop? Is that thang supposed to act as a wheelie bar?!?!?!  (See picture)
Title: Re: RS125
Post by: swerdna on July 10, 2008, 04:23:44 PM
I get the impression that two-strokes are maintenance nightmares. Any thoughts?
Title: Re: RS125
Post by: matt922 on July 10, 2008, 05:01:00 PM
Quote from: swerdna on July 10, 2008, 04:23:44 PM
I get the impression that two-strokes are maintenance nightmares. Any thoughts?

in marine applications not so much.

for outboard motors, they
weigh less
usually faster than 4 stroke
consume more fuel
have less maintenace(timing belts)
always have to premix the oil(in many cases)

two sides to every story, but i'd own one. replacing a top end wouldn't be the end of the world

i have always wanted an aprilia(dont own a bike at all) and this would steal me away from a 620 very quick.
Title: Re: RS125
Post by: Porsche Monkey on July 10, 2008, 06:20:01 PM
That would be a fun bike for some tight twisty backroad blasting.
Title: Re: RS125
Post by: Dareduc on July 10, 2008, 06:48:12 PM
I think I see more track days in my future.
Title: Re: RS125
Post by: Rob Hilding on July 10, 2008, 07:26:37 PM
Me likey [thumbsup]


Title: Re: RS125
Post by: NuTTs on July 11, 2008, 04:37:30 AM
Quote from: swerdna on July 10, 2008, 04:23:44 PM
I get the impression that two-strokes are maintenance nightmares. Any thoughts?

They generally are as the public that tend to buy them don´t use the best quality 2 stroke oil, they hardly warm the engines up correctly etc.

Also it´s typical maintenance meaning that new piston and con-rod every once in a while apart from the extremely costly 2T oil.

I still hanker after a RS250 track toy, one day I´ll have one.
Title: Re: RS125
Post by: the_Journeyman on July 11, 2008, 04:56:04 AM
A friend of mine recently manged to import & register an RS250 in New York.  I can't wait to see it.  I also saw one a couple years ago on Deal's Gap ~

JM
Title: Re: RS125
Post by: rubinj21 on July 11, 2008, 09:12:35 AM
Ill be interested to see one of these. Ifyou have never ridden a 125, trust me it can be a life changing experiance.
Title: Re: RS125
Post by: matt922 on July 11, 2008, 10:13:07 AM
are they gonna be like the race rs250s and have a fairing instead of a headlight, or will they come practically street legal, just not DOT certified(or what ever it is that makes em street legal)?
Title: Re: RS125
Post by: Grampa on July 11, 2008, 10:16:36 AM
me want
Title: Re: RS125
Post by: rubinj21 on July 11, 2008, 01:06:15 PM
Ok, Ive done a lil recon. Called a friend at a local Aprilia dealer. Aprilia USA has NOT made anything official, or added anmything to the USA website, however, an official statement will be made at Laguna. Fronm his phone calls and questions, sounds like it will have lights, turn signals, brakes, elec starter, and all needed "street legal"gear, but be sold "for off road use only". He said this means if you live somewhere where emissions is not needed on motorcycles, you can go to DMV, register and plate it, as long as ur insurance company can provide it with insurance. If after the announcment is made, and things seem legit, I may be in to put a deposit on it if the price makes sense, if it is anything like in europe, we should be around $5k or so. When he gives me more info, Ill post up.
Title: Re: RS125
Post by: johnster on July 11, 2008, 01:40:18 PM
Who here has ridden a 2-stroke just outta curiosity? What was your experence vs. a 4-stroke, powerband-wise?  I've heard the the 500cc 2-stroke GP bikes basically didn't have a low end, but when you went from the middle to the upper revs, you better hold on for dear life. The power comes on quick + without warning!!  :o

I've always wanted to try one, but have never had the opportunity. My Duc dealer races TZ250's and says that they're a blast.
Title: Re: RS125
Post by: jswledhed on July 11, 2008, 02:57:30 PM
Electric start, on a 125cc two-smoke!? [roll]
Title: Re: RS125
Post by: rubinj21 on July 11, 2008, 03:08:54 PM
Thats correct, electric start. If you go on aprilias website, not the us version but aprilia.com, they have been selling the model for a few years. Liquid cooled, 2 stroke.
Quote from: johnster on July 11, 2008, 01:40:18 PM
Who here has ridden a 2-stroke just outta curiosity? What was your experence vs. a 4-stroke, powerband-wise?  I've heard the the 500cc 2-stroke GP bikes basically didn't have a low end, but when you went from the middle to the upper revs, you better hold on for dear life. The power comes on quick + without warning!!  :o

I've always wanted to try one, but have never had the opportunity. My Duc dealer races TZ250's and says that they're a blast.

They are a blast to ride, and the power does come on all of a sudden. At 7000-8000 it starts, and might end as quick as 11500 or 12000. But riding them is a hoot. But one issue is ridability, Honda 125's need a new piston between 300-500 miles and new bottom end 1200-1500ish. Im not sure about these
Title: Re: RS125
Post by: Monsterlover on July 12, 2008, 06:58:10 PM
Wow that thing is cool!!!!

264 pounds?  Even if that's a dry weight, thats badass!! [moto]
Title: Re: RS125
Post by: ADG on July 12, 2008, 07:50:47 PM
Quote from: jswledhed on July 11, 2008, 02:57:30 PM
Electric start, on a 125cc two-smoke!? [roll]

Definitely lame.
Title: Re: RS125
Post by: Monsterlover on July 12, 2008, 07:58:24 PM
^

Why?
Title: Re: RS125
Post by: The Don on July 12, 2008, 08:30:25 PM
I have the RS 250 and what a great little machine. On track days the bigger bikes pass you down the straights but around the corners they more than make it up due to the light weight (as long as you keep your corner speed up) . Superb machine I highly recommend them you will have a ball. I paid $4000.00 Australian dollars second hand, have had no problems with them at all. The engine is straight from the Suzuki RGV 250 so if you have them in the USA you will know how good they go.
I know a bloke that had the road RS125 and off the lights they had to be rev-ed, but once going they were sweet.
Title: Re: RS125
Post by: jswledhed on July 13, 2008, 09:10:52 AM
Quote from: Monsterlover on July 12, 2008, 07:58:24 PM
^

Why?

Why is it lame?

Its totally unnecessary.  A 125cc engine of any description isn't a big deal to kick over and a 125 two-stroke is among the easiest.  On a bike whose singular goal is to be light and free of additional mass, a kicker would have been the way to go.  Hell, I'm betting it could be bump started in less time than it takes to spin up the starter and fire it off with the button.  Its being sold as a track-only machine anyway.  Who needs a starter?

If it won't start within a few kicks, there's some kind of issue that needs to be addressed and it probably wouldn't start with the button either. [beer]
Title: Re: RS125
Post by: rubinj21 on July 13, 2008, 10:23:06 AM
I think the point was to make it cheap to produce, im not sure which if any models Aprilia still produce with a kick start. Even the most recent version of the RS 50 had an electric start. If all there doing is bringing the euro model here, they will change as little as possible.
Title: Re: RS125
Post by: weemonster on July 13, 2008, 06:31:44 PM
notorious for cold seizing.

ie if you dont let the engine warm up before you thrash it it will seize.
Aprillia rs125 250s  and Cagiva Mito 125s are really bad for it.

Dont know how much longer  theyllmake 2 stroke road bikes for.  250 gp are going to 600 4 stroike  and 125's will be close behind.
Title: Re: RS125
Post by: NuTTs on July 14, 2008, 07:46:30 AM
Quote from: johnster on July 11, 2008, 01:40:18 PM
Who here has ridden a 2-stroke just outta curiosity? What was your experence vs. a 4-stroke, powerband-wise?  I've heard the the 500cc 2-stroke GP bikes basically didn't have a low end, but when you went from the middle to the upper revs, you better hold on for dear life. The power comes on quick + without warning!!  :o

I've always wanted to try one, but have never had the opportunity. My Duc dealer races TZ250's and says that they're a blast.
I´ve test ridden a RS125 and an old, knackered RD125LC. The RS is an extremely revvy bike, it needs shit loads of revs to even start moving from a standstill and the powerband is nearly 2000rpm wide at the top end. You don´t brake for corners, you must carry corner speed otherwise the engine will just bog down and take a couple or three downshifts to get back into the powerband again. Brakes are good, suspension designed for someone who weighs half my weight.

RD125LC - didn´t like it, it was in crap condition. Very light weight.
Title: Re: RS125
Post by: Bick on July 14, 2008, 01:34:49 PM
As "Track Only", why is it pictured with lights, mirrors and license plate bracket? (Smart Ass Comment)



That would be very fun!!!