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Moto Board => Racing & Trackdays => Topic started by: Speeddog on October 16, 2014, 07:17:39 PM

Title: MotoGP Australia! Spoilers!
Post by: Speeddog on October 16, 2014, 07:17:39 PM
Watching FP1, almost at the end, odd to see Lorenzo getting a tow off of Aleix!

Aleix, Jorge, Iannone, Rossi, MM, Dovi, Cal, Bradley, Pedrosa, Bradl.

Aleix and Iannone on the softest rear tire, and Dovi was on the new asymmetrical front.

Rossi looking aggressive.
Title: Re: MotoGP Australia! Spoilers!
Post by: Speeddog on October 16, 2014, 10:14:48 PM
A bit mixed in FP2.
Jorge, MM, Iannone, Dovi, Rossi, Aleix, Cal, Pol, Yonny.

Jorge, Pol, Iannone and Dovi all lost the front and crashed, all OK from what was shown.

MM last 5 laps; 30.287, 29.845, 29.847, 29.844, 29.762... a threatening string.
Title: Re: MotoGP Australia! Spoilers!
Post by: duccarlos on October 17, 2014, 11:11:16 AM
How are the tires holding up?
Title: Re: MotoGP Australia! Spoilers!
Post by: ducpainter on October 17, 2014, 11:44:01 AM
No reports of any issues so far...

except there were a few front end crashes, including George, on the new asymmetric front.

Seems it was a little cold to keep the center of the tire warm enough for what little hard braking there is at PI
Title: Re: MotoGP Australia! Spoilers!
Post by: Speeddog on October 17, 2014, 08:58:07 PM
More or less, normal service was resumed in FP3.

The 'less' was the torrid times any Honda rider not named Marquez was having.
Bradl was the *only* Honda rider other than MM that made it into Q2.
That's right, Pedrosa down with the unwashed in Q1.

Whatever it is about this track, if you're on a Honda, you're in the shit.
Title: Re: MotoGP Australia! Spoilers!
Post by: Needle99 on October 18, 2014, 04:13:50 AM
Strange Qualy session.....
Cal on the front row - was not expecting that....
Title: Re: MotoGP Australia! Spoilers!
Post by: Needle99 on October 18, 2014, 04:17:58 AM
Pos.   Num.   Rider   Nation   Team   Bike   Km/h   Time   Gap 1st/Prev.
1   93   Marc MARQUEZ   SPA   Repsol Honda Team   Honda   346.2   1'28.408   
2   35   Cal CRUTCHLOW   GBR   Ducati Team   Ducati   345.9   1'28.642   0.234 / 0.234
3   99   Jorge LORENZO   SPA   Movistar Yamaha MotoGP   Yamaha   342.0   1'28.650   0.242 / 0.008
4   38   Bradley SMITH   GBR   Monster Yamaha Tech 3   Yamaha   341.1   1'28.656   0.248 / 0.006
5   26   Dani PEDROSA   SPA   Repsol Honda Team   Honda   335.2   1'28.675   0.267 / 0.019
6   41   Aleix ESPARGARO   SPA   NGM Forward Racing   Forward Yamaha   338.0   1'28.866   0.458 / 0.191
7   29   Andrea IANNONE   ITA   Pramac Racing   Ducati   342.7   1'28.887   0.479 / 0.021
8   46   Valentino ROSSI   ITA   Movistar Yamaha MotoGP   Yamaha   344.0   1'28.956   0.548 / 0.069
9   44   Pol ESPARGARO   SPA   Monster Yamaha Tech 3   Yamaha   340.1   1'28.968   0.560 / 0.012
10   4   Andrea DOVIZIOSO   ITA   Ducati Team   Ducati   343.8   1'29.088   0.680 / 0.120
11   6   Stefan BRADL   GER   LCR Honda MotoGP   Honda   340.9   1'29.155   0.747 / 0.067
12   7   Hiroshi AOYAMA   JPN   Drive M7 Aspar   Honda   333.0   1'29.955   1.547 / 0.800
Title: Re: MotoGP Australia! Spoilers!
Post by: MadDuck on October 18, 2014, 12:10:18 PM
Quote from: Needle99 on October 18, 2014, 04:13:50 AM
Strange Qualy session.....
Cal on the front row - was not expecting that....

That's too weird, something's not right there.........
Title: Re: MotoGP Australia! Spoilers!
Post by: Speeddog on October 18, 2014, 02:59:23 PM
Cal has been pretty strong all weekend.
I think conditions changed a little, playing into his hands.
And historically he goes pretty well at PI.

Dovi and Iannone had also been strong, but somehow lost the handle.
Dovi lost the front and went down in FP2, and didn't bounce back.
Iannone was in the top 3 in every FP, but couldn't carry it into Q2.
Title: Re: MotoGP Australia! Spoilers!
Post by: ducpainter on October 18, 2014, 03:27:31 PM
There were a few drops of rain at the end of Q1 and just before Q2.

I think the bag factor played a big part in the results.
Title: Re: MotoGP Australia! Spoilers!
Post by: Needle99 on October 18, 2014, 06:24:10 PM
Crazy Joe just looked strong again in practice..
hope his tyres last until half distance...

Funny how a result last race had helped Cals feeling on the bike. Will be funny if the Gp15 are quicker than Lcr next year.
Title: Re: MotoGP Australia! Spoilers!
Post by: kopfjäger on October 18, 2014, 10:41:41 PM
Carnage....
Title: Re: MotoGP Australia! Spoilers!
Post by: Speeddog on October 18, 2014, 10:47:54 PM
F'n hell.

That's all I got.
Title: Re: MotoGP Australia! Spoilers!
Post by: derby on October 19, 2014, 04:11:29 AM
Quote from: Speeddog on October 18, 2014, 10:47:54 PM
F'n hell.

That's all I got.

sooooooo close.
Title: Re: MotoGP Australia! Spoilers!
Post by: HotIce on October 19, 2014, 05:57:23 AM
Go VR!  ;D  [coffee]
Title: Re: MotoGP Australia! Spoilers!
Post by: lazylightnin717 on October 19, 2014, 09:07:06 AM
Craziness.

Even crazier how Crusty has been proving faster on the non-updated Ducati.
Title: Re: MotoGP Australia! Spoilers!
Post by: ab on October 19, 2014, 07:25:21 PM
Great race.

Great pace and win for Rossi!!!!

Sad for Cal :(

Smith made it to podium after all the crashes.
Title: Re: MotoGP Australia! Spoilers!
Post by: MadDuck on October 20, 2014, 09:36:07 AM
Were Jorge's tires going off at the end?  Great duel between him & Rossi ( again! ) but I was surprised to see him drop so far back. Were the Yami's running the asymetric front tires too like the others? That was a bit of an Ooops for Bridgestone to have them start not working due to lower track temps?
Title: Re: MotoGP Australia! Spoilers!
Post by: HotIce on October 20, 2014, 09:46:24 AM
Jorge blamed a defective tire.
Clearly Rossi ones held up, but then again, tire wear depends on the rider style plus track combo.
I still can't get MM going down that way  [coffee]
Title: Re: MotoGP Australia! Spoilers!
Post by: thought on October 20, 2014, 10:14:11 AM
Damn... I was really looking forward to having Cal on the podium.  He was riding the pants off that bike... I guess he's finally learning how to handle the Duc just in time to be taken off of it.  I'd be really interested in seeing him on the updated GP14 just for one race... but then again it seems that just leaving him on the bike and telling him to ride it seems to be the best option.

And Rossi wins are always special wins :D
Title: Re: MotoGP Australia! Spoilers!
Post by: duccarlos on October 20, 2014, 10:38:33 AM
Tons of frontend crashes. There always seems to be issues with the Stones in PI! Cal should have realized that he was not going to catch Val. He should have played it safe, specially after passing JLo like if he was standing still.
Title: Re: MotoGP Australia! Spoilers!
Post by: triangleforge on October 20, 2014, 01:28:16 PM
David Emmet has his typically great analysis of the race (spoiler: he says don't blame the tires, blame Dorna and the time difference between Australia & Spain. Well, not entirely) up at: http://motomatters.com/analysis/2014/10/19/2014_phillip_island_sunday_round_up_why_.html (http://motomatters.com/analysis/2014/10/19/2014_phillip_island_sunday_round_up_why_.html)

He links to a side by side photo of Lorenzo's & Rossi's front tires (both extra softs, Lorenzo on the left, Rossi on the right) after the race:

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B0Sc1dmCIAAGGK7.jpg)

(more at: https://twitter.com/M_Turco/status/523715970083217409 (https://twitter.com/M_Turco/status/523715970083217409))

:o

Cal's description of riding the asymmetric tire with the air temperature dropping rapidly is telling - if he'd slowed down, the tire would have cooled off even faster and he'd have crashed, if he kept pushing (like he did) the cooling was going to catch up with him regardless. IIRC, both he and Marquez crashed under braking, before the bike had leaned over 30+ degrees off of the harder center and onto the left soft edge.
Title: Re: MotoGP Australia! Spoilers!
Post by: duccarlos on October 20, 2014, 01:51:52 PM
Yep, they were both barely leaning when they crashed. It looked like a boxer taking a dive.
Title: Re: MotoGP Australia! Spoilers!
Post by: OT on October 20, 2014, 09:22:55 PM
2015 will see engine exhaust being piped over the (Frankenstein) tires to ensure they get and stay hot all race….
Title: Re: MotoGP Australia! Spoilers!
Post by: Triple J on October 20, 2014, 09:46:41 PM
MM's and Cal's crashes sucked. Bridgestone needs to figure out PI. They weren't even leaned over yet...looked like wet race crashes.
Title: Re: MotoGP Australia! Spoilers!
Post by: The Architect on October 21, 2014, 09:45:51 AM
Most action packed race of the season!

Hayden didn't see anything wrong with Bradl taking out Pedrosa. 

Poor Cal..........
Title: Re: MotoGP Australia! Spoilers!
Post by: duccarlos on October 21, 2014, 09:57:01 AM
Iannone took out Pedrosa. Bradl took out A. Esparago.
Title: Re: MotoGP Australia! Spoilers!
Post by: The Architect on October 22, 2014, 04:59:36 AM
Quote from: duccarlos on October 21, 2014, 09:57:01 AM
Iannone took out Pedrosa. Bradl took out A. Esparago.

my mistake.  I couldn't keep up with all the offs.
Title: Re: MotoGP Australia! Spoilers!
Post by: ducpainter on October 22, 2014, 05:08:57 AM
Quote from: The Architect on October 22, 2014, 04:59:36 AM
my mistake.  I couldn't keep up with all the offs.
Carnage.