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Put a deposit on a HM1100evo today :D
It comes with the DP 2 into 1 Termi full system, ECU, etc. It also has a Sargent seat, some extra carbon, carbon mirrors with integral turn signals, new clutch plates, and full service (including belts and valve adjustment).
Excited about having a dry clutch Evo motor. The Sargent seat wasn't too high either as it's sculpted down to help my short arse.

Nicely modded, congrats.  [thumbsup]

Thanks. The extras were worth paying a bit more for it. That DP kit is worth a fortune here. It's nice to get an example of the last of the big bore two valvers.
Any tips or model specific knowledge is welcome.

Congrats, T !

Cheers Silas!

You will be a happy boy!  Congrats  [thumbsup]

 Thanks.:D
Seems to be a transitional model. An Evo, but with dry clutch and no safety pack. Such a naughty bike.

Congrats!!

Quote from: koko64 on November 10, 2014, 01:11:38 PM
Thanks.:D
Seems to be a transitional model. An Evo, but with dry clutch and no safety pack. Such a naughty bike.

You're going to need a couple spare driver's licenses.  [laugh]

Congrats on pulling the trigger . . .

Whenver you can get the CA-Cycleworks larger tank . . . NO wait, you need the money for the food we gonna purchase when I visit !!!

Thanks fellas. Im gonna look for some poser dual sport tyres. ;D

 [popcorn] ;D

Quote from: The Last In Line on November 10, 2014, 03:59:46 PM
Congrats on pulling the trigger . . .

Whenver you can get the CA-Cycleworks larger tank . . . NO wait, you need the money for the food we gonna purchase when I visit !!!

I'm saving up for that (the groceries, that is). ;D

Quote from: ungeheuer on November 11, 2014, 12:29:56 AM
[popcorn] ;D

Tourance, Scorpion, Trailmax, Anakee2, etc ;D

not the tyres mate...

pictures... of the bike....  ;D

[popcorn]

I collect Fri or Sat. :D

Sat morning it's mine. [evil]

Oh, almost forgot, you need these,

http://www.bikehps.com/acatalog/Kineo-Wire-Spoked-Wheels-Ducati-1100-1100S-1100-EVO-SP-Hypermotard-2008-2012.html (http://www.bikehps.com/acatalog/Kineo-Wire-Spoked-Wheels-Ducati-1100-1100S-1100-EVO-SP-Hypermotard-2008-2012.html)

(http://images.motorcycle-usa.com/PhotoGallerys/2010-ducati-hypermotard-1100-evo-sp.jpg)

 :o $$$$$
But beautiful.

;D

Quote from: koko64 on November 13, 2014, 05:53:15 PM
:o $$$$$
But beautiful.

We'll help every chance we get.  ;D

Make sure Unge sees this, he needs a set too.

Crack dealers

Quote from: Speeddog on November 13, 2014, 06:28:05 PM
We'll help every chance we get.  ;D

Make sure Unge sees this, he needs a set too.

Bastard  [cheeky]

I dont much like that frisbee rear wheel hub thing.  I prefer Kineo's spoked wheels.  Just as $$$ though...

(http://il-ducatista.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/Hypermotard-C2D-07.jpg)

 [drool] They look great.

Quote from: ungeheuer on November 14, 2014, 03:10:28 AM
Bastard  [cheeky]

I dont much like that frisbee rear wheel hub thing.  I prefer Kineo's spoked wheels.  Just as $$$ though...

(http://il-ducatista.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/Hypermotard-C2D-07.jpg)

those are Kineo . . . ;D

Is it Saturday morning yet?  [popcorn]

Quote from: The Last In Line on November 14, 2014, 06:24:43 AM
those are Kineo . . . ;D

look more closely Carlos. The pic I posted are Kineo wheels,  the pic you posted are some other brand.  Alpina?

Quote from: ungeheuer on November 14, 2014, 05:05:59 PM
look more closely Carlos. The pic I posted are Kineo wheels,  the pic you posted are some other brand.  Alpina?

the ones in the black HM are Kimio . .  Ung, please stop drinking water . . .

Quote from: The Last In Line on November 14, 2014, 05:28:07 PM
the ones in the black HM are Kimio . .  Ung, please stop drinking water . . .

I know.....  That's why I posted the pic.  The wheels on the red framed one you posted....  are not Kineo.  They have that dumb arse frisbee thing.....

the frisbee thingy is an accessorie . . . but those are Kineo .. . Alpina doesn't make SSS wheels . . .

NOW let's please return the kidnapped thread to its owner .. . ;D

She's home ;D

Pics later. DP full kit is a bonus. We'll see if I have to tune her with PCV.Havent ridden her yet, but looks good next to the Monster.

Quote from: The Last In Line on November 14, 2014, 05:59:48 PM
the frisbee thingy is an accessorie . . . but those are Kineo .. . Alpina doesn't make SSS wheels . . .

NOW let's please return the kidnapped thread to its owner .. . ;D

Yeah, you're right.  Apologies for the thread-jack. 

http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=69502.0 (http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=69502.0)

Quote from: koko64 on November 14, 2014, 07:37:16 PM
She's home ;D

Pics later. DP full kit is a bonus. We'll see if I have to tune her with PCV.Havent ridden her yet, but looks good next to the Monster.

[thumbsup] [thumbsup] [thumbsup]

You won't have to tune her mate.  There's never any... need  [evil] ;)

The screen scrolls, "EU Ducati Racing". I note the lambda is still on the rear pipe. Edit: Found the other pipe sniffer. It was well tucked away, 'spose to avoid getting ripped off by road debris. I was told it had the full kit that came with the DP Termi two into one pipe. Hmmm.
That sound right?

DP ECU on my Monster with Termi full system scrolled "Ducati Racing".... and retained both Lambda probes.  In other words, not an open loop system.

So... yours sounds right to me.  Other than I'm surprised both O2 sensors are not retained.

Sounds cool, thanks Stavros. [thumbsup]


I'll have to ride it a fair bit to see how close the map is. A PCV is probably the only thing besides tyres I would consider needing to buy. Maybe a reflash to a nice closed loop performance map.

Its got those  carbon mirrors with led indicators, (and originals with barkbusters), a nice low Sargent seat (and original), tail tidy, carbon chain guard and rear side covers.

The Termi 2 into 1 is beautiful and must drop a fair bit of weight.

JD Horde has a quick report on the HM 1100DS with DP kit. He put a kitted bike and stocker on tne dyno and found a 6 hp increase. He said the fuelling was quite good. We'll see how close it is on my evo.

Stav, found the other Lambda sensor. Was well tucked away and rightly so to protect it. What a great little bike!

Waitaminit, is Unge of Mediterranean descent as well?

Quote from: Speeddog on November 15, 2014, 07:08:55 PM
Waitaminit, is Unge of Mediterranean descent as well?

Na, but speaks Greek better than me! I think he can read some Greek. He's a trilingual Pom Import/Aussie; Deuch, Englesi and Wog. Not bad. He also understands carburettor but denies it. ;D

I can read some Greek.  I taught myself the Greek alphabet so I could read street signs and bus destination signs.  But to say I can speak Greek is a very long stretch... I know.. a few words.

I can speak German, Swedish, some Hebrew (but can't read it), un poco Espanol and a smattering of English.

Yes, I am a cunning linguist  ;D

I deny any association with the Poms way more than I deny understanding carburettor  :P

Quote from: koko64 on November 15, 2014, 06:21:54 PM
Stav, found the other Lambda sensor. Was well tucked away and rightly so to protect it. What a great little bike!

ΣαÏ, αιμαÏ,,ηρή σύνÏ,,ροφο ομορφιά  [thumbsup]

Did about 60 miles through the hills today. :D

Ride impressions:
1. Excellent acceleration and easy to loop. 1100cc in a dirt bike package. What could possibly go wrong? [evil]
2. I felt quite confident on good dirt and gravel roads with it despite the street tyres.
3. The ergos are great, but the stock seat is harsh, although it looks awesome. The Sargent seat was an excellent inclusion in the deal.
4. The carbon aftermarket mirrors with integral indicators helped with lane filtering and squeezing into parking, etc. Another great part of the deal.
5. A commanding view of the road is a cliche', but oh so true.  I'm quite observant, but saw a lot more.
6. It feels strange being up so high, but you dirt blokes will be fine. My brother will love it.
7. It takes a bit of getting used to the long travel suspension, but it gave me confidence on rough roads where the M900 is bouncing around and off line.
8. Everyone takes a second look trying to work out what it is.
9. The response is sensational and can only get better with tuning.
10. The clutch pull was heavy which surprised me given the radial M/C.
11. They still persist with clutch springs and retainers that rust. I changed them.
12. The DP Termi 2 into 1 system looks sensational and sounds great, but doesn't sound as good as the twin Termis on my M900.
13. Your right boot rubs the paint off the clutch cover.
14. It's cop bait, so ride with restraint. Yeah, sure.
15. The brakes were strong and the suspension felt good even though I haven't dialled it in yet.
16. Extra Wog chrome was part of the deal [drool].
17. Throttle control is everything.

So glad I got it. I shall call her Zoot. Naughty, naughty, wicked Zoot. She should be spanked soundly [evil].

Quote from: ungeheuer on November 15, 2014, 09:08:02 PM


I deny any association with the Poms   :P

I'm hurting Steve I'm hurting :'(

koko get yourself an MWR full size top air filter, you won't believe the difference... [bow_down]

Geoff... [coffee]

Seems we have a real happy koko64!  Try 2 up yet?

OK, WTF is a "Extra wog chrome"?

A guy once said that carbon fibre was Wog chrome, or that carbon is to a Ducati rider what chrome is to a Harley rider [laugh] (I'm allowed to say Wog). ;D I think that is so true. There are the mirrors, chain guard, rear shroud, exhaust, exhaust heat guard.
Wife sat on the back and loved the Sargent seat, she couldn't believe how hard the stock seat was. It's crazy. It takes 10 minutes riding to hurt. I may get it redone to look the same but comfortable.

Quote from: geoffduc on November 17, 2014, 06:14:36 AM
I'm hurting Steve I'm hurting :'(

koko get yourself an MWR full size top air filter, you won't believe the difference... [bow_down]

Geoff... [coffee]

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Does the kit help smoothness down low? Do you think the DP ECU is too rich down low? You had a thread on this ay?

Stav, I'll search for your thread on tuning the 1100. I wonder if a PCV will fit anywhere on this little jigger!

Pics or it has not happened.

Sorry man, I'll get a camera/phone off the kids, mines been dropped too many times. :P

Seems like the HMevo went to Siemens ECU.

Edit: Just checked the Dynojet site and the PCV does not appear to have the optimizer option for Siemens ECUs. The earlier DS models have the Optimizers for the Marelli system. Bugger.

PCV for Siemens ECU Monsters includes the optimisers... they're not optional.  I have the earlier version where the optimisers comprise of a pair of VR's which plug inline the Lambda looms...   IIRC later version PCVs for my Monster have an Optimser which is a single box of electrickery to tell the ECU pretty fueling lies.

If the Hyper's PCV doesnt include any kind of FatDuc-type optimiser.....  how is fuelling improved in closed loop?

The site says it doesnt, there will be a way. Must just be the HM Evo then.

From DJ site:

"Note: PCV does NOT allow adjustment of the closed loop area on this model [Hyper 1100 EVO]."

:-\

That sucks.  

I vote for the reflash in that case.

Quote from: ungeheuer on November 22, 2014, 02:31:54 AM
From DJ site:

"Note: PCV does NOT allow adjustment of the closed loop area on this model [Hyper 1100 EVO]."

:-\

That sucks. 

I vote for the reflash in that case.

+2 . . . Rexxer

What about Microtec.

Looks like a complete (although pricey) option. I reckon if you fried your ECU it would be the choice for sure, and in that case, a very affordable option.
For tuning, I could see where the Rexxer flash, PCV, Autotune, etc could  add up $$$ very quickly.
Make the beast with two backs it, I'll slap some FCRs on it [laugh]

I've got a Microtec on my S4.

All sorts of tables and buttons and things to play with.

Sounds versatile.

Quote from: Speeddog on November 22, 2014, 12:59:01 PM
I've got a Microtec on my S4.

All sorts of tables and buttons and things to play with.

Only way to go in my opinion.  8)

HM1100 EVO . . Continental ECU . . . not sure Microtec has one for it . . .

I reckon I'll be calling Brad in the morning. 8)
You know, I would have liked to keep the closed loop set up with Optimizers and a PCV, but oh well. The Autotune looks a great option. Closed loop is fine if the maps are good. Pity.

All day.

Dirt-tracking it to hidden-away vineyards.....

and not one make the beast with two backsing photo??  [bang]

[laugh]

















[popcorn]

Yes we had a lovely time. [Dolph]

Camera Phone's chopped. GLW has a new one but cant drive it yet.

Where's your pics? ;D
[popcorn]

I don't have any pics of your bike.

Whereas... there's ad nauseam pics of my bike around here.....

I can post a link if you like   ;D

Cheeky bastard. [laugh]

Quote from: koko64 on November 23, 2014, 02:04:23 AM
Cheeky bastard. [laugh]

No argument from me  8)

Wait til you see my "poseur" dual sport tyres.

Quote from: koko64 on November 23, 2014, 02:13:57 AM
Wait til you see my "poseur" dual sport tyres.

"Wait" being the operative word...

^ "oberdunger" [laugh] [clap] [beer]













(Just so it's clear). ;)

The other Chris Kelly from Dynojet replied to my enquiry. They are not going to make O2 Optimizers for the HM1100Evo. My options are to Rexxer up or just PCV tune the open loop portion. Pity.

Should have researched it prior, oh and you could have 'drawn' a picture of it by now. 

Quote from: kopfjäger on November 25, 2014, 03:30:34 PM
oh and you could have 'drawn' a picture of it by now. 

[laugh]

I forgive you Kopf, and you know why..   ;)

Why you laugh me vreh! >:( ;D

I rode the Hyper, M900 and a 944 Supersport one after the other yesterday over a spare, precious hour of fun. I'll post my thoughts in another thread.

Wouldn't wide band O2 sensors serve the purpouse?

Just asking

Quote from: koko64 on November 25, 2014, 03:10:18 PM
The other Chris Kelly from Dynojet replied to my enquiry. They are not going to make O2 Optimizers for the HM1100Evo. My options are to Rexxer up or just PCV tune the open loop portion. Pity.

In the PCV map for Pods kits thread a solution has been found.
Firstly, the makers of the WASP kits (Intake Express) have a dyno derived map for the Hyper Evo that works with these velocity stack/big Pod kits. They show dyno charts with high 90hp for 1100DS and low 100+ hp for 1100Evo with the intake kits and stock exhaust systems.
I can attest to a vivid increase performance on the road.

Despite what I have been told, Optimizers do work on the Evo bikes according to tests done by at least two people on this forum. The early, Mark I individual in line units work on my bike. Another member also has found that the later, adjustable Mark II version from a DS works with his M1100Evo.

I tried the Mark I versions and they worked as they would on the previous model.
I'll update that thread.
Cheers.