Ducati Monster Forum

Moto Board => General Monster Forum => Topic started by: DucPete on May 07, 2008, 09:41:00 AM

Poll
Question: What name would you like to see on a Monster wiki
Option 1: Ducatiwiki.org votes: 9
Option 2: Monsterwiki.net votes: 31
Option 3: DucatiMonsterWiki (all domains) votes: 18
Option 4: Bewbies!!! votes: 11
Title: Wiki Name Poll
Post by: DucPete on May 07, 2008, 09:41:00 AM
What are your thoughts?
Title: Re: Wiki Name Poll
Post by: TCK! on May 07, 2008, 09:48:23 AM
I like both the first ones...

I think it would be nice to develop a complete Ducati wiki cause although .org is the only available domain there isn't a Wiki out there yet for it just domain place holders. I've never been a fan of .net's just because no one ever remembers that it's a .NET but in this case the .com and .org are Wiki's for the movie Monsters from Pixar so not exactly closely related :D
Title: Re: Wiki Name Poll
Post by: Howie on May 07, 2008, 10:53:25 AM
No boobies choice?

IMO, monster and .org must appear.  Monster because we are a Monster forum and .org to signify non-profit.
Title: Re: Wiki Name Poll
Post by: TCK! on May 07, 2008, 10:54:42 AM
We can always have DucatiWiki.org as the main site and MonsterWiki.net refer to it.
Title: Re: Wiki Name Poll
Post by: Le Pirate on May 07, 2008, 11:10:55 AM
GOOOOO monsterwiki!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Wiki Name Poll
Post by: James.M on May 07, 2008, 11:39:20 AM
Quote from: Le Pirate on May 07, 2008, 11:10:55 AM
GOOOOO monsterwiki!!!!!!!
+1
Title: Re: Wiki Name Poll
Post by: TCK! on May 07, 2008, 11:46:55 AM
Get your votes in people :D
Title: Re: Wiki Name Poll
Post by: DucPete on May 07, 2008, 11:55:43 AM
I offer my most humble apologies.  I neglected the obligatory poll option.   :bang

Boobies!!!   ;D
Title: Re: Wiki Name Poll
Post by: hypurone on May 07, 2008, 12:39:06 PM
It was a tough choice and I did refrain from "gettin carnal" so go MonsterWiki !! For some reason that just sounds so cool.  wt:
Title: Re: Wiki Name Poll
Post by: James.M on May 07, 2008, 02:10:18 PM
nooooooooooo come on ducatiwiki!
Title: Re: Wiki Name Poll
Post by: TCK! on May 07, 2008, 02:11:40 PM
Quote from: JamesMcCain on May 07, 2008, 02:10:18 PM
nooooooooooo come on ducatiwiki!
+1  mo:t:
Title: Re: Wiki Name Poll
Post by: TCK! on May 07, 2008, 03:58:19 PM
Just FYI... I'm going to set this up tonight... get your votes in...
Title: Re: Wiki Name Poll
Post by: ScottRNelson on May 07, 2008, 04:03:36 PM
You might be able to work out something with the owner of http://www.ducatiwiki.net (http://www.ducatiwiki.net)

He's a nice guy.  Right now it is optimized for the ST2/ST3/ST4 bikes, but has places for 851 and 888 as soon as I get around to adding some content there.  ;)

If you can keep from taking over the site, there would be room for Monster content, and there is a lot of information that is common to both lines.

Go check it out.  There is already some good stuff on there.
Title: Re: Wiki Name Poll
Post by: TCK! on May 07, 2008, 04:10:15 PM
Good call Scott... I just tried .com didn't think .net had a wiki...

Seems like everyone is wanting a monster specific, but I think things cross over so much that a Ducati one would be good enough to hold monster items as well...
Title: Re: Wiki Name Poll
Post by: ScottRNelson on May 07, 2008, 06:31:07 PM
There are two threads going on this subject.

The owner of ducatiwiki.net, Aldon Caron, is open to letting the Monster fanatics add to his existing wiki, which is currently aimed at the ST family, but has been set up to include 851 and 888 information (if I can get around to adding some stuff in that category).

He also mentioned that he was looking at letting the Multistrada guys add their stuff as well.

This is a great opportunity to create one unified Ducati wiki that would be truly useful to all Ducati riders, rather than having a bunch of separate ones for each model.

We need to seriously consider joining forces here.
Title: Re: Wiki Name Poll
Post by: Howie on May 07, 2008, 10:25:14 PM
Quote from: ScottRNelson on May 07, 2008, 06:31:07 PM
There are two threads going on this subject.

The owner of ducatiwiki.net, Aldon Caron, is open to letting the Monster fanatics add to his existing wiki, which is currently aimed at the ST family, but has been set up to include 851 and 888 information (if I can get around to adding some stuff in that category).

He also mentioned that he was looking at letting the Multistrada guys add their stuff as well.

This is a great opportunity to create one unified Ducati wiki that would be truly useful to all Ducati riders, rather than having a bunch of separate ones for each model.

We need to seriously consider joining forces here.

Nothing wrong with the idea of going with something that already works well.
Title: Re: Wiki Name Poll
Post by: somegirl on May 07, 2008, 10:27:28 PM
I like Scott's idea too.
Title: Re: Wiki Name Poll
Post by: DucPete on May 08, 2008, 10:57:30 AM
I have some concerns about just adding content to someone elses wiki. 

Would we as a community have the ability to make changes that we deem necessary? It's Aldon's site so I understandably assume he's not willing to give in to some ideas we might have. 

This wouldn't be our community's combined knowledge but just an external site to find information.  Which is fine, but depending on how it's managed it's not going to be seen as ours.  And therefore not a substitute for the FAQ's/How-tos. 

Then, how are we going to maintain the wiki?  We as a community may have different views than Aldon regarding this.  Which is totally legitimate and understandable considering it's his site.

All I'm looking for is a smooth build up and adaptation of a knowledge base for this site, and I just have a few concerns about using Aldon's site.   One issue could render this option not possible for us as a solution.
Title: Re: Wiki Name Poll
Post by: ScottRNelson on May 08, 2008, 11:07:59 AM
Quote from: DucPete on May 08, 2008, 10:57:30 AM
I have some concerns about just adding content to someone elses wiki. 

Would we as a community have the ability to make changes that we deem necessary? It's Aldon's site so I understandably assume he's not willing to give in to some ideas we might have.
He lets people that he trusts update the wiki.  I have that privilege.

I'm pretty sure that he would let our group do whatever we want in the Monster section.  However, the people allowed to modify it would be limited.  But anyone with a good argument for why they should have change privilege would most likely get it.  At least until they screw something up or something.
Title: Re: Wiki Name Poll
Post by: DucPete on May 08, 2008, 11:19:46 AM
Quote from: ScottRNelson on May 08, 2008, 11:07:59 AM
He lets people that he trusts update the wiki.  I have that privilege.

I'm pretty sure that he would let our group do whatever we want in the Monster section.  However, the people allowed to modify it would be limited.  But anyone with a good argument for why they should have change privilege would most likely get it.  At least until they screw something up or something.

I really don't want this to come across the wrong way.  All I'm trying to do is make sure that we have something set up for this community that will be lasting, and in control of those with a vested interest in this board as well. 

It's in his interest for us to put all of our knowledge on his wiki, and you being a contributer there also have an interest in it.  Which is completely fine and understandable.

But is it in the best interest for this community?  I think that if the branding is similar to here, the moderation is under the same group of folks and there is a feeling of connection between this board and the wiki that it will be used by the people here new and old.

I will agree that using a site that is already populated with information is a great place to start.  But will it accomplish the goal of being a data repository for the DMF.  Not only does it have to work but we would need to have the buy in from the some of the moderators and experienced people here for it to not only take off but to flourish. 

I don't think that it will be able to evolve as we may need it to as it grows.   And IMHO I don't think that there is THAT much information that pertains to monsters at all.  I gave it a look and it's not exactly what I had in mind for a monsterwiki. 

Title: Re: Wiki Name Poll
Post by: DucPete on May 08, 2008, 11:25:50 AM
Can we get an idea of how the founding members of this board feel about this? 
After all we ARE talking about the structure and layout of this community. 
Title: Re: Wiki Name Poll
Post by: ScottRNelson on May 08, 2008, 11:28:54 AM
ducatiwiki.net is still in its infancy.  A small group of people pulled good information from the Yahoo ST2 group for most of the entries.  I was planning to do the same for the Yahoo 851-888 group.

I don't have anything against a separate MonsterWiki, I was just offering a suggestion to get things started a bit faster, especially if the goal is to be DucatiWiki rather than only MonsterWiki.

I'll leave the decision at this point to someone else, but I hope to do more work helping fill out ducatiwiki.net.  Even if there is a separate MonsterWiki, it would still be good for a few people here to get update privileges on ducatiwiki.net and put in some Monster information.
Title: Re: Wiki Name Poll
Post by: TCK! on May 08, 2008, 11:29:50 AM
Well adding the Wiki to this site wouldn't be too difficult but it would require more bandwidth and more storage space as well as more time for working on bugs. I was never thinking of trying to add this to their plate on this website unless they wanted that.
Title: Re: Wiki Name Poll
Post by: DucPete on May 08, 2008, 11:37:46 AM
Quote from: TCK! on May 08, 2008, 11:29:50 AM
Well adding the Wiki to this site wouldn't be too difficult but it would require more bandwidth and more storage space as well as more time for working on bugs. I was never thinking of trying to add this to their plate on this website unless they wanted that.


We don't necessarily need to add it to the same host.  But a connection in theme and management style would be nice.  I just worry about us trying to put our knowledge somewhere and not everyone really recognizing it as part of the boards effort. 

Otherwise it's really just the effort of us as individuals to decide to populate somone else's wiki.  And this site can also do it's own FAQ/How-to's.  Buy in from Duc-Stew and Co as support would also be helpful.
Title: Re: Wiki Name Poll
Post by: RB on May 08, 2008, 11:49:06 AM
has anyone discussed Ti-membership. could that secure a storage space? or help atleast.

RB

BTW, i like .com after a domain name....old school!
Title: Re: Wiki Name Poll
Post by: TCK! on May 08, 2008, 11:59:40 AM
Quote from: RB on May 08, 2008, 11:49:06 AM
has anyone discussed Ti-membership. could that secure a storage space? or help atleast.

RB

BTW, i like .com after a domain name....old school!

Yeah .com is the best but they are all taken unless it's DucatiMonsterWiki.com
Title: Re: Wiki Name Poll
Post by: ducati_steve on May 08, 2008, 12:53:53 PM
Monsterwiki flows the best.

Ducatibaconwiki.org isn't bad either....
Title: Re: Wiki Name Poll
Post by: Mduc on May 08, 2008, 02:09:31 PM
Monsterwiki I like.

Once people have time to implement the Ti memberships I am sure many here would buy them to support the site and add more space.
Title: Re: Wiki Name Poll
Post by: wana696 on May 08, 2008, 10:30:18 PM
monsterwiki flows off the tounge real well, but i like the way bewbies feel on my tounge :P
Title: Re: Wiki Name Poll
Post by: Capt baz on June 22, 2008, 06:38:09 AM
i miss my stars, but can live without them.