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Title: Gracie Jiu Jitsu fans?
Post by: IZ on December 28, 2014, 07:26:09 AM
I took the boy in for a couple lessons last month and thinking of enrolling him. He seemed to really enjoy it!  He's also doing gymnastics a couple times/week.

I'm wondering if Gracie is the way to go?  I was also considering boxing or Muy Tai.  Not sure if either of those is right for 3 1/2 y/o though.  Maybe around 7 or 8?
Title: Re: Gracie Jiu Jitsu fans?
Post by: red baron on December 28, 2014, 07:30:55 AM
gymnastics. :-X





;D
Title: Re: Gracie Jiu Jitsu fans?
Post by: IZ on December 28, 2014, 07:44:39 AM
Quote from: red baron on December 28, 2014, 07:30:55 AM
gymnastics. :-X

;D

[cheeky]

I'm not looking to make him into one of the Stroe brothers but gymnastics will help in any sport he pursues in the future. This isn't Little Gym though.  It's run by former Olympians and is competitive (after preschool). 
Title: Re: Gracie Jiu Jitsu fans?
Post by: ducpainter on December 28, 2014, 07:52:17 AM
Competitive at 3 1/2?

I suppose...as long as it's he that wants it and not you.
Title: Re: Gracie Jiu Jitsu fans?
Post by: IZ on December 28, 2014, 08:01:09 AM
Quote from: ducpainter on December 28, 2014, 07:52:17 AM
Competitive at 3 1/2?

I suppose...as long as it's he that wants it and not you.

He's in the preschool group now and for another year. They rotate through all the exercises with the older kids but it's just basics and fun for now. 
There's a traveling competition team that he can go into later if that's how things play out.
Title: Re: Gracie Jiu Jitsu fans?
Post by: duccarlos on December 29, 2014, 10:40:32 AM
Martial arts at any age before 7 will be for fun only. People talk about discipline, but in general classes are more like having the kid in preschool that allows them to get physical. By around 7 they should have the mental capacity to take it somewhat seriously.

BTW, GJJ is as good as it gets if you have the right instructor. Quite a few out there have never been trained by any Gracie.
Title: Re: Gracie Jiu Jitsu fans?
Post by: He Man on December 29, 2014, 12:05:05 PM
^ what he said. my MT school had a little kids program, it was basicly kids trying to kick each other with oversized pads on (lets face it, no one designs contact sports goods for kids that age)

What you are doing is essentially building the neuromuscular connection to be athletic. Gymnastics seems to fill that role pretty well.
Title: Re: Gracie Jiu Jitsu fans?
Post by: IZ on December 29, 2014, 05:23:04 PM
Quote from: duccarlos on December 29, 2014, 10:40:32 AM
Martial arts at any age before 7 will be for fun only. People talk about discipline, but in general classes are more like having the kid in preschool that allows them to get physical. By around 7 they should have the mental capacity to take it somewhat seriously.

BTW, GJJ is as good as it gets if you have the right instructor. Quite a few out there have never been trained by any Gracie.

Agreed.

Yes, these instructors are top notch.  We're lucky because the Gracie Barra Headquarters is only about a mile away.  
Title: Re: Gracie Jiu Jitsu fans?
Post by: IZ on December 29, 2014, 05:39:55 PM
Quote from: He Man on December 29, 2014, 12:05:05 PM
^ what he said. my MT school had a little kids program, it was basicly kids trying to kick each other with oversized pads on (lets face it, no one designs contact sports goods for kids that age)

What you are doing is essentially building the neuromuscular connection to be athletic. Gymnastics seems to fill that role pretty well.

Typical BJJ class here is stretching and exercises, running laps (instructor makes it fun), mounting and getting out of a mount and other activities.  I didn't think 30 min classes (3x's/Wk) would be long enough but he asks for a drink after only 5 min!

Gymnastics 2x's/wk for 1 hour.  Plus, like I mentioned in the past..we go to Muscle Beach every weekend to use the equipment.  We workout with my still rings & slack line at the local park.  Trying to keep him active rather than watching TV.
Title: Re: Gracie Jiu Jitsu fans?
Post by: duccarlos on December 29, 2014, 05:57:47 PM
Dude, the kid is 3 1/2. Cut him some slack.
Title: Re: Gracie Jiu Jitsu fans?
Post by: IZ on December 29, 2014, 06:28:59 PM
Quote from: duccarlos on December 29, 2014, 05:57:47 PM
Dude, the kid is 3 1/2. Cut him some slack.


Ha!  We're just always out doing things.  He has plenty of time for play and watching cartoons. Believe me.  Like I said..I'm not trying to make him into Little Hercules or the Stroe brothers.



BTW..I didn't think 30 min BJJ classes would be long enough To wear him out..is what I meant to say.   Since gymnastics classes are an hour long. Is that what you were referring to?
Title: Re: Gracie Jiu Jitsu fans?
Post by: duccarlos on December 30, 2014, 08:15:53 AM
Quote from: IZ on December 29, 2014, 05:39:55 PM
Plus, like I mentioned in the past..we go to Muscle Beach every weekend to use the equipment.  We workout with my still rings & slack line at the local park.  Trying to keep him active rather than watching TV.

This.
Title: Re: Gracie Jiu Jitsu fans?
Post by: IZ on December 30, 2014, 10:17:14 AM
Quote from: duccarlos on December 30, 2014, 08:15:53 AM
This.

It's all fun there.  If you've ever seen Muscle Beach, there's an adult park with the rings, slack line park, etc. and a kids park with swings and other playground equipment.


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Title: Re: Gracie Jiu Jitsu fans?
Post by: Grampa on December 30, 2014, 10:31:40 AM
How is any of this going to help further his motogp career?
Title: Re: Gracie Jiu Jitsu fans?
Post by: IZ on December 30, 2014, 10:53:29 AM
Quote from: Grampa on December 30, 2014, 10:31:40 AM
How is any of this going to help further his motogp career?

;D

Conditioning..I guess?

Unfortunately, no motorcycle yet.  He's been riding a balance bike for about 2 years now and has a bigger two wheeler with training wheels. The kid loves speed!
Title: Re: Gracie Jiu Jitsu fans?
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Title: Re: Gracie Jiu Jitsu fans?
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Title: Re: Gracie Jiu Jitsu fans?
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Forget kids... I want!

IZ - if he keeps with grappling get some ear guards. He might not think they are cool/want to wear - but Cauliflower ear sucks a ton

As has been said, for kids as young as your son, it's mostly structured romper-room. A good instructor, regardless of the discipline is key. Instructing kids is way different than adults.

Something else to look into when he's a bit older, with a high outside component - Free running/parcour(!)
Title: Re: Gracie Jiu Jitsu fans?
Post by: IZ on December 31, 2014, 07:32:41 AM
Quote from: Slide Panda on December 31, 2014, 05:23:51 AM
Forget kids... I want!

IZ - if he keeps with grappling get some ear guards. He might not think they are cool/want to wear - but Cauliflower ear sucks a ton

As has been said, for kids as young as your son, it's mostly structured romper-room. A good instructor, regardless of the discipline is key. Instructing kids is way different than adults.

Something else to look into when he's a bit older, with a high outside component - Free running/parcour(!)

Thanks..good suggestion.  Rather not have the cauliflower ear-look.  

Do you do parkour and/or wrestle Slide?

We watch a couple of groups that practice parkour regularly at the beach.  I've also taken him to and have worked out at the Firestorm Gym.  This place is >5 min from the gymnastics facility.
http://firestormfreerunning.com (http://firestormfreerunning.com)


Getting back to Martial Arts..we also go to Butokuden quite often to watch the kids practice Aikido and Kendo.  Not quite old enough to start here though.
http://www.butokuden.com (http://www.butokuden.com)