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Title: MotoGP COTA 2015 ******SPOILER******
Post by: TitanMonsterS4R on April 08, 2015, 06:36:43 AM
Shall we start a thread about the upcoming race........
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Post by: The Architect on April 08, 2015, 08:16:59 AM
1. Marquez
2. Rossi
3. Dovi
4. Iannone
5. Whore-hey

Rossi and Dovi are interchangeable.  Not so sure Ianonne will finish. 
Title: Re: MotoGP COTA 2015 ******SPOILER******
Post by: TitanMonsterS4R on April 08, 2015, 08:23:38 AM
Quote from: The Architect on April 08, 2015, 08:16:59 AM
1. Marquez
2. Rossi
3. Dovi
4. Iannone
5. Whore-hey

Rossi and Dovi are interchangeable.  Not so sure Ianonne will finish. 

1. MM
2. Dovi
3. Jorge
4. Rossi
5. Iannone
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Post by: Triple J on April 08, 2015, 08:41:53 AM
I'm going to go out on a limb here:

1. Dovi
2. MM
3. Rossi
4. JLo
5. Ianonne

Front Row - Dovi (pole), MM, Ianonne
Title: Re: MotoGP COTA 2015 ******SPOILER******
Post by: TitanMonsterS4R on April 08, 2015, 08:54:28 AM
Quote from: Triple J on April 08, 2015, 08:41:53 AM
I'm going to go out on a limb here:

1. Dovi
2. MM
3. Rossi
4. JLo
5. Ianonne

Front Row - Dovi (pole), MM, Ianonne

I really wanna put a Duc as the winner especially with the straight line speed but wonder if tire management will be an issue, especially with all the fighting that will go on at the top between riders. Wonder if tires will be eaten early because of it...
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Post by: Triple J on April 08, 2015, 09:00:52 AM
Hard to say on the tires...they lasted OK in Qatar.

To spice things up...forecast ranges anywhere from 40%-90% chance of rain.

It's Austin though...there could still be a dry track if it's just a passing shower, and not an all-out soaker.
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Post by: ZLTFUL on April 08, 2015, 11:39:30 AM
Rain at start, stops 5 laps in, starts raining again on lap 15.

Several racers are scuttled in the mayhem...podium looks like this:

Rossi
Ianonne
Vinales

(A boy can dream can't he?!?!)
Title: Re: MotoGP COTA 2015 ******SPOILER******
Post by: The Architect on April 08, 2015, 11:50:03 AM
If it rains, Whore-hey may not make the top 5.

If Whore-hey gets into an early battle, he'll cook his tires and may not make the top 5. 

If it does rain how will the new Duc perform? 

Anyway, this looks like it might be another good race. 
Title: Re: MotoGP COTA 2015 ******SPOILER******
Post by: HotIce on April 08, 2015, 02:19:43 PM
I think M1s will have troubles at COTA (VR and JLo should land from 3rd to 6th). I see HRC and GP15s fighting.
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Post by: koko64 on April 08, 2015, 02:49:28 PM
Is it a power track? What's the track like?
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Post by: ducpainter on April 08, 2015, 03:00:27 PM
Quote from: koko64 on April 08, 2015, 02:49:28 PM
Is it a power track? What's the track like?
Has Google left Australia?

(http://brittanieshey.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/COTA-track-information.png)
Title: Re: MotoGP COTA 2015 ******SPOILER******
Post by: Triple J on April 08, 2015, 03:56:20 PM
I'm not buying those mph values. 176 through T18...really? We sat there during the 1st GP race, and they aren't going 176mph!

MM highsided right in front of us in T19, and I seriously doubt he was doing 122 mph when he did it.

GP bikes do a lap in right about 2 minutes. At 3.4 miles long, that's an average speed of 113 mph. Looks to be too many big numbers on that diagram to come up with a 113 average.
Title: Re: MotoGP COTA 2015 ******SPOILER******
Post by: ducpainter on April 08, 2015, 03:57:50 PM
Quote from: Triple J on April 08, 2015, 03:56:20 PM
I'm not buying those mph values. 176 through T18...really? We sat there during the 1st GP race, and they aren't going 176mph!

MM highsided right in front of us in T19, and I seriously doubt he was doing 122 mph when he did it.

GP bikes do a lap in right about 2 minutes. At 3.4 miles long, that's an average speed of 113 mph. Looks to be too many big numbers on that diagram to come up with a 113 average.
F1 speeds?
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Post by: Triple J on April 08, 2015, 04:10:58 PM
For reference...Vettel's pole lap in 2012 which was about 1:36 (about 25 seconds faster than a GP bike)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9n589_qxhiY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9n589_qxhiY)

T1 - 53 mph (86 kph)

T4 - 150 mph (240 kph)

T11 - 50 mph (80 kph) [180mph or 290 kph max into it]

T18 - 160 mph (260 kph)

T19 - 105 mph (170 kph)

That graphic is complete BS...even for an F1 car (except for the top speeds at the ends of the straights)
Title: Re: MotoGP COTA 2015 ******SPOILER******
Post by: Triple J on April 08, 2015, 04:14:09 PM
That said...I'd call it a power track for sure. I expect the Ducati to do well.
Title: Re: MotoGP COTA 2015 ******SPOILER******
Post by: koko64 on April 08, 2015, 05:36:45 PM
Its full of triangles! Power and braking from the look of it.

I dont need google, I got the DMF! ;D
Title: Re: MotoGP COTA 2015 ******SPOILER******
Post by: koko64 on April 08, 2015, 06:10:28 PM
Actually acceleration and braking with top end power on the big straight. Be good to watch the Ducatis there. Maybe the Yamahas will do well in the esses but giving it away otherwise.
Who knows really.  ;)
As usual the different bikes/riders strengths and weaknesses might even it out at different parts of the track. Then there's MM. Like Rossi in the past, he has 2/10s a lap on everyone.
Title: Re: MotoGP COTA 2015 ******SPOILER******
Post by: kopfjäger on April 08, 2015, 06:15:14 PM
Dovi
Title: Re: MotoGP COTA 2015 ******SPOILER******
Post by: lazylightnin717 on April 08, 2015, 06:40:01 PM
Quote from: kopfjäger on April 08, 2015, 06:15:14 PM
Dovi

That's the spirit
Title: Re: MotoGP COTA 2015 ******SPOILER******
Post by: Grampa on April 08, 2015, 09:32:41 PM
Crutchlowe in the rain



With a lead pipe.

Title: Re: MotoGP COTA 2015 ******SPOILER******
Post by: koko64 on April 08, 2015, 09:50:43 PM
 [evil]

Maybe Crazy Joe too.
Title: Re: MotoGP COTA 2015 ******SPOILER******
Post by: Needle99 on April 09, 2015, 04:18:04 AM
1. MM
2. Dovi
3. Iannone
4. Rossi
5. Crutchlow
6. Yonni  ;)
Title: Re: MotoGP COTA 2015 ******SPOILER******
Post by: lazylightnin717 on April 09, 2015, 06:15:09 AM
Quote from: Needle99 on April 09, 2015, 04:18:04 AM
1. MM
2. Dovi
3. Iannone
4. Rossi
5. Crutchlow
6. Yonni  ;)

Tossing away Lorenzo for Hernandez?  :D

I'm going with

1. Dovi
2. MM
3. Rossi
4. Lorenzo
5. Crusty
6. Crazy Joe
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Post by: duccarlos on April 09, 2015, 06:40:48 AM
Dovi
MM
Iannone
Rossi
JLO
Title: Re: MotoGP COTA 2015 ******SPOILER******
Post by: The Architect on April 09, 2015, 07:44:36 AM
You guys are very optimistic about Dovi?  He's basically on a new bike?  Don't get me wrong, I want him to win but the memory of all those years on the old Duc are hard to shake.
Title: Re: MotoGP COTA 2015 ******SPOILER******
Post by: ducpainter on April 09, 2015, 07:47:00 AM
Quote from: The Architect on April 09, 2015, 07:44:36 AM
You guys are very optimistic about Dovi?  He's basically on a new bike?  Don't get me wrong, I want him to win but the memory of all those years on the old Duc are hard to shake.
He's got a real chance.

Don't be so negative. :-*
Title: Re: MotoGP COTA 2015 ******SPOILER******
Post by: duccarlos on April 09, 2015, 07:48:23 AM
Quote from: The Architect on April 09, 2015, 07:44:36 AM
You guys are very optimistic about Dovi?  He's basically on a new bike?  Don't get me wrong, I want him to win but the memory of all those years on the old Duc are hard to shake.

He was 3rd last year on the shitty Duc. MM won it and the Turd came in second. The Turd is not in the race and the Yamahas simply don't have the speed in the straight. The way I see it, you'll either have the Ducs win their first race or come in second.
Title: Re: MotoGP COTA 2015 ******SPOILER******
Post by: HotIce on April 09, 2015, 07:55:59 AM
Quote from: duccarlos on April 09, 2015, 07:48:23 AM
He was 3rd last year on the shitty Duc. MM won it and the Turd came in second. The Turd is not in the race and the Yamahas simply don't have the speed in the straight. The way I see it, you'll either have the Ducs win their first race or come in second.
Nailed it  [coffee]
Title: Re: MotoGP COTA 2015 ******SPOILER******
Post by: ducpainter on April 09, 2015, 08:00:21 AM
Quote from: duccarlos on April 09, 2015, 07:48:23 AM
He was 3rd last year on the shitty Duc. MM won it and the Turd came in second. The Turd is not in the race and the Yamahas simply don't have the speed in the straight. The way I see it, you'll either have the Ducs win their first race or come in second.
Rossi didn't have the speed on Qatar's straight either. ;D
Title: Re: MotoGP COTA 2015 ******SPOILER******
Post by: duccarlos on April 09, 2015, 08:14:40 AM
Quote from: ducpainter on April 09, 2015, 08:00:21 AM
Rossi didn't have the speed on Qatar's straight either. ;D

But Rossi was pretty much faster everywhere else. The Yamahas weren't very hot last year in COTA.
Title: Re: MotoGP COTA 2015 ******SPOILER******
Post by: ducpainter on April 09, 2015, 08:29:59 AM
Quote from: duccarlos on April 09, 2015, 08:14:40 AM
But Rossi was pretty much faster everywhere else. The Yamahas weren't very hot last year in COTA.
Yamaha might as well just head to Brazil Argentina and skip the stop in the US eh?
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Post by: Triple J on April 09, 2015, 08:38:45 AM
The Yamahas will be in the hunt this year for sure IMO. They're only a little slower down the straight, but they seem to make up for it in agility. I an easily see another drag race to the finish line, with the Yamaha just trying to hang on to the lead. If that Yamaha is JLo, then advantage to whoever is behind because he'll take some stupid sweeping line. If the Yamaha is Rossi, then who knows...he's a racer.

JLo would have been there last year if he hadn't had his head up his butt at the start.

I fully expect to see all 3 manufacturers on the podium.  [thumbsup]

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Post by: MadDuck on April 09, 2015, 09:20:07 AM
As much as I'd like to see Dovi, Rossi & Crazy Joe up there I think MM is coming to wage war.  He was seriously pissed at the end of last race........... [popcorn]
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Post by: greycode on April 09, 2015, 10:17:44 AM
1. MM
2. Dovi
3. Vale
4. Jlo
5. CrayJo

Unless it rains, then I'd throw Cal and Smith in the mix.
Title: Re: MotoGP COTA 2015 ******SPOILER******
Post by: duccarlos on April 09, 2015, 10:18:59 AM
I still think from what we saw at Qatar, this track suits HRC and Ducati.
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Post by: ducpainter on April 09, 2015, 10:39:00 AM
So I guess it's not true that You'reghey doesn't have a sense of humor.

Asked at the COTA press conference to comment about him saying that it was a human mistake that caused his helmet problem, and asked what that mistake was...he replied...with a grin...

It's pretty clear no? One person made a mistake and we will not share what that mistake was.
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Post by: lazylightnin717 on April 09, 2015, 12:10:42 PM
I don't care what track suits what bikes.

Rossi has a wild hair up his ass to win and I think he will put up a serious fight.

I couldn't believe Quatar. Pitiful practice and qualy and then BAM in the race.
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Post by: duccarlos on April 09, 2015, 12:23:18 PM
Quote from: lazylightnin717 on April 09, 2015, 12:10:42 PM
I don't care what track suits what bikes.

Rossi has a wild hair up his ass to win and I think he will put up a serious fight.

I couldn't believe Quatar. Pitiful practice and qualy and then BAM in the race.

It wasn't like he dominated the whole race. If Rossi is a position to win I would not put it past him to pull something out at the end. But in the end, the Yamaha has to have the speed in the straights. Just look at the track layout of Qatar vs COTA. Qatar has more flowing corners compared to COTA. COTA also has 2 straight aways where Yamaha will need to find more top end. Also remember that they have less time to adjust for COTA. In Qatar they had the test and then race weekend for Yamaha to adjust, which they eventually did. I'm not saying that the Duc will dominate or that the Yamaha will be lapped, but they have to pull off some big changes for them to keep up with MM and the Ducs.
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Post by: Needle99 on April 09, 2015, 12:35:20 PM
Quote from: lazylightnin717 on April 09, 2015, 06:15:09 AM
Tossing away Lorenzo for Hernandez?  :D
I have a feeling he will smoke his tyres and bin it.

MM is going to keep the pace hot. VR will play it safe early.

But MM may also bin it and then all bets are of with the ensuing craziness.  ;D
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Post by: ute on April 09, 2015, 04:38:43 PM
From CS on his twitter

"Bummer I'm not racing, no prep was needed as I wasn't planning on winning, just replacing a good friend and having some fun in Texas!:)"

Interesting ..seems he wanted to race
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Post by: Needle99 on April 09, 2015, 06:58:03 PM
Quote from: ute on April 09, 2015, 04:38:43 PM
From CS on his twitter

"Bummer I'm not racing, no prep was needed as I wasn't planning on winning, just replacing a good friend and having some fun in Texas!:)"

Interesting ..seems he wanted to race
When Jorge goes to Aprilia or Suzuki once they get somewhere with their power issues, we could have VR and CS both at Yamaha  ;)
Title: Re: MotoGP COTA 2015 ******SPOILER******
Post by: lazylightnin717 on April 09, 2015, 07:37:21 PM
Quote from: duccarlos on April 09, 2015, 12:23:18 PM
It wasn't like he dominated the whole race. If Rossi is a position to win I would not put it past him to pull something out at the end. But in the end, the Yamaha has to have the speed in the straights. Just look at the track layout of Qatar vs COTA. Qatar has more flowing corners compared to COTA. COTA also has 2 straight aways where Yamaha will need to find more top end. Also remember that they have less time to adjust for COTA. In Qatar they had the test and then race weekend for Yamaha to adjust, which they eventually did. I'm not saying that the Duc will dominate or that the Yamaha will be lapped, but they have to pull off some big changes for them to keep up with MM and the Ducs.

I don't disagree one bit. I just think that Rossi wants a title again now more than ever and he is going to really give everybody a run for the money.

It's still so early in the season to see where everybody is at. Guess we'll find out starting tomorrow.
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Post by: Triple J on April 09, 2015, 07:43:06 PM
Rossi always runs well at Qatar. We'll see after 4-5 rounds. That said, I think he's hungry and wants another one. The challenge of MM has energized him. That's what's great about Rossi...he loves a good race. Some guys (JLo, Stoner, Pedro) just want to clear out and go.
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Post by: TitanMonsterS4R on April 10, 2015, 08:57:13 AM
FP1: With 30 minutes to go

1   68   Y. HERNANDEZ   2:22.560
2   41   A. ESPARGARO   +2.012
3   46   V. ROSSI   +2.227
4   93   M. MARQUEZ   +2.574
5   44   P. ESPARGARO   +2.607
6   4   A. DOVIZIOSO   +2.870
7   38   B. SMITH   +2.990
8   19   A. BAUTISTA   +3.122
9   9   D. PETRUCCI   +3.125
10   43   J. MILLER   +3.898

Title: Re: MotoGP COTA 2015 ******SPOILER******
Post by: duccarlos on April 10, 2015, 08:58:54 AM
Dogs love MotoGP
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Post by: duccarlos on April 10, 2015, 09:04:22 AM
But they don't like Maverick Vinales
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Post by: duccarlos on April 10, 2015, 09:10:05 AM
BTW, it will be a wet weekend, so we really will not be able to see the Ducs' real potential.
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Post by: duccarlos on April 10, 2015, 09:56:23 AM
After pretty much domination by MM through most FP1, Dovi pulls out a half second quicker lap as the checkered flag waved.
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Post by: HotIce on April 10, 2015, 09:58:15 AM
Forecast basically say rain at 65+% the whole weekend.
It's going to be a different race.
Title: Re: MotoGP COTA 2015 ******SPOILER******
Post by: duccarlos on April 10, 2015, 10:46:36 AM
Pos.   Num.   Rider   Nation   Team   Bike   Km/h   Time   Gap 1st/Prev.
1   4   Andrea DOVIZIOSO   ITA   Ducati Team   Ducati   328.9   2'19.402   
2   93   Marc MARQUEZ   SPA   Repsol Honda Team   Honda   329.0   2'19.864   0.462 / 0.462
3   45   Scott REDDING   GBR   EG 0,0 Marc VDS   Honda   328.8   2'20.487   1.085 / 0.623
4   46   Valentino ROSSI   ITA   Movistar Yamaha MotoGP   Yamaha   323.6   2'20.593   1.191 / 0.106
5   9   Danilo PETRUCCI   ITA   Pramac Racing   Ducati   324.1   2'20.665   1.263 / 0.072
6   38   Bradley SMITH   GBR   Monster Yamaha Tech 3   Yamaha   321.5   2'20.951   1.549 / 0.286
7   44   Pol ESPARGARO   SPA   Monster Yamaha Tech 3   Yamaha   326.8   2'20.983   1.581 / 0.032
8   35   Cal CRUTCHLOW   GBR   CWM LCR Honda   Honda   327.5   2'21.300   1.898 / 0.317
9   99   Jorge LORENZO   SPA   Movistar Yamaha MotoGP   Yamaha   325.8   2'21.486   2.084 / 0.186
10   68   Yonny HERNANDEZ   COL   Pramac Racing   Ducati   327.1   2'21.625   2.223 / 0.139
11   19   Alvaro BAUTISTA   SPA   Aprilia Racing Team Gresini   Aprilia   316.2   2'22.018   2.616 / 0.393
12   7   Hiroshi AOYAMA   JPN   Repsol Honda Team   Honda   333.6   2'22.387   2.985 / 0.369
13   43   Jack MILLER   AUS   CWM LCR Honda   Honda   321.6   2'22.391   2.989 / 0.004
14   6   Stefan BRADL   GER   Athinà Forward Racing   Yamaha Forward   323.0   2'22.498   3.096 / 0.107
15   69   Nicky HAYDEN   USA   Aspar MotoGP Team   Honda   312.5   2'22.542   3.140 / 0.044
16   41   Aleix ESPARGARO   SPA   Team SUZUKI ECSTAR   Suzuki   316.8   2'22.571   3.169 / 0.029
17   63   Mike DI MEGLIO   FRA   Avintia Racing   Ducati   321.3   2'22.663   3.261 / 0.092
18   8   Hector BARBERA   SPA   Avintia Racing   Ducati   320.2   2'22.716   3.314 / 0.053
19   29   Andrea IANNONE   ITA   Ducati Team   Ducati   322.5   2'22.741   3.339 / 0.025
20   76   Loris BAZ   FRA   Athinà Forward Racing   Yamaha Forward   313.4   2'24.178   4.776 / 1.437
21   50   Eugene LAVERTY   IRL   Aspar MotoGP Team   Honda   317.3   2'24.851   5.449 / 0.673
22   25   Maverick VIÃ'ALES   SPA   Team SUZUKI ECSTAR   Suzuki   317.4   2'25.024   5.622 / 0.173
23   33   Marco MELANDRI   ITA   Aprilia Racing Team Gresini   Aprilia   318.8   2'25.141   5.739 / 0.117
24   15   Alex DE ANGELIS   RSM   Octo IodaRacing Team   ART   311.5   2'25.160   5.758 / 0.019
25   17   Karel ABRAHAM   CZE   AB Motoracing   Honda   319.3   2'25.405   6.003 / 0.245
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Post by: Raux on April 10, 2015, 11:36:25 AM
Heading to Austin now :)
Title: Re: MotoGP COTA 2015 ******SPOILER******
Post by: TitanMonsterS4R on April 10, 2015, 01:01:57 PM
FP2 in the books.......

1    93    Marc MARQUEZ    Honda    2'04.835    
2    35    Cal CRUTCHLOW    Honda    2'05.162    0.327 / 0.327
3    29    Andrea IANNONE    Ducati    2'05.190    0.355 / 0.028
4    41    Aleix ESPARGARO    Suzuki    2'05.564    0.729 / 0.374
5    4    Andrea DOVIZIOSO    Ducati    2'05.646    0.811 / 0.082
6    46    Valentino ROSSI    Yamaha    2'05.691    0.856 / 0.045
7    44    Pol ESPARGARO    Yamaha    2'05.840    1.005 / 0.149
8    6    Stefan BRADL    Yamaha Forward    2'05.990    1.155 / 0.150
9    68    Yonny HERNANDEZ    Ducati    2'06.092    1.257 / 0.102
10    38    Bradley SMITH    Yamaha    2'06.134    1.299 / 0.042
11    99    Jorge LORENZO    Yamaha    2'06.174    1.339 / 0.040
12    45    Scott REDDING    Honda    2'06.216    1.381 / 0.042
13    9    Danilo PETRUCCI    Ducati    2'06.294    1.459 / 0.078
14    63    Mike DI MEGLIO    Ducati    2'06.591    1.756 / 0.297
15    25    Maverick VIÃ'ALES    Suzuki    2'07.011    2.176 / 0.420
16    7    Hiroshi AOYAMA    Honda    2'07.268    2.433 / 0.257
17    19    Alvaro BAUTISTA    Aprilia    2'07.419    2.584 / 0.151
18    8    Hector BARBERA    Ducati    2'07.581    2.746 / 0.162
19    43    Jack MILLER    Honda    2'07.916    3.081 / 0.335
20    50    Eugene LAVERTY    Honda    2'07.968    3.133 / 0.052
21    17    Karel ABRAHAM    Honda    2'08.266    3.431 / 0.298
22    69    Nicky HAYDEN    Honda    2'08.762    3.927 / 0.496
23    76    Loris BAZ    Yamaha Forward    2'09.372    4.537 / 0.610
24    33    Marco MELANDRI    Aprilia    2'11.258    6.423 / 1.886
25    15    Alex DE ANGELIS    ART    2'12.409    7.574 / 1.151
Title: Re: MotoGP COTA 2015 ******SPOILER******
Post by: triangleforge on April 10, 2015, 02:03:40 PM
I thought this from Crash.net was interesting regarding the FP2 times:

"If the weather is wet again on Saturday morning then these lap times will decide the top ten places for direct access to Saturday's Qualifying 2 session, meaning Jorge Lorenzo will need to take part in Qualifying 1. "

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Post by: HotIce on April 11, 2015, 11:03:59 AM
And FP3:

1   93   Marc MARQUEZ   SPA   Repsol Honda Team   Honda   342.3   2'03.302   
2   35   Cal CRUTCHLOW   GBR   CWM LCR Honda   Honda   338.6   2'03.490   0.188 / 0.188
3   99   Jorge LORENZO   SPA   Movistar Yamaha MotoGP   Yamaha   333.1   2'03.647   0.345 / 0.157
4   46   Valentino ROSSI   ITA   Movistar Yamaha MotoGP   Yamaha   335.7   2'03.647   0.345
5   38   Bradley SMITH   GBR   Monster Yamaha Tech 3   Yamaha   340.5   2'03.666   0.364 / 0.019
6   44   Pol ESPARGARO   SPA   Monster Yamaha Tech 3   Yamaha   340.8   2'03.773   0.471 / 0.107
7   41   Aleix ESPARGARO   SPA   Team SUZUKI ECSTAR   Suzuki   328.1   2'03.790   0.488 / 0.017
8   4   Andrea DOVIZIOSO   ITA   Ducati Team   Ducati   339.5   2'03.850   0.548 / 0.060
9   45   Scott REDDING   GBR   EG 0,0 Marc VDS   Honda   335.5   2'03.946   0.644 / 0.096
10   9   Danilo PETRUCCI   ITA   Pramac Racing   Ducati   337.3   2'04.030   0.728 / 0.084
11   29   Andrea IANNONE   ITA   Ducati Team   Ducati   339.5   2'04.343   1.041 / 0.313
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Post by: ducpainter on April 11, 2015, 01:12:54 PM
The kid is not human...

So your first bike breaks down on the straight...you pull over to the pit wall, do a pull up to the top of the wall, jump down and sprint the length of the pit to your box, jump on your #2 bike. 3 minutes left in the session, and you've been bumped from 1st to 7th.

What do you do?

Simple...go faster than everyone else and decimate the field by .3 of a second to get on pole.

Dovi second on the soft tire with George 3rd...Vale 4th.
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Post by: kopfjäger on April 11, 2015, 02:20:33 PM
^^Qualiy ?
Title: Re: MotoGP COTA 2015 ******SPOILER******
Post by: ducpainter on April 11, 2015, 02:29:33 PM
Quote from: kopfjäger on April 11, 2015, 02:20:33 PM
^^Qualiy ?
Si...
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Post by: duccarlos on April 11, 2015, 04:50:17 PM
 :o MM

Pos.   Num.   Rider   Nation   Team   Bike   Km/h   Time   Gap 1st/Prev.
1   93   Marc MARQUEZ   SPA   Repsol Honda Team   Honda   342.6   2'02.135   
2   4   Andrea DOVIZIOSO   ITA   Ducati Team   Ducati   339.0   2'02.474   0.339 / 0.339
3   99   Jorge LORENZO   SPA   Movistar Yamaha MotoGP   Yamaha   333.6   2'02.540   0.405 / 0.066
4   46   Valentino ROSSI   ITA   Movistar Yamaha MotoGP   Yamaha   335.9   2'02.573   0.438 / 0.033
5   35   Cal CRUTCHLOW   GBR   CWM LCR Honda   Honda   337.3   2'02.613   0.478 / 0.040
6   45   Scott REDDING   GBR   EG 0,0 Marc VDS   Honda   334.7   2'02.674   0.539 / 0.061
7   29   Andrea IANNONE   ITA   Ducati Team   Ducati   338.0   2'02.792   0.657 / 0.118
8   41   Aleix ESPARGARO   SPA   Team SUZUKI ECSTAR   Suzuki   324.9   2'02.869   0.734 / 0.077
9   44   Pol ESPARGARO   SPA   Monster Yamaha Tech 3   Yamaha   338.0   2'03.161   1.026 / 0.292
10   38   Bradley SMITH   GBR   Monster Yamaha Tech 3   Yamaha   338.3   2'03.440   1.305 / 0.279
11   9   Danilo PETRUCCI   ITA   Pramac Racing   Ducati   334.4   2'03.741   1.606 / 0.301
12   25   Maverick VIÃ'ALES   SPA   Team SUZUKI ECSTAR   Suzuki   328.1   2'03.754   1.619 / 0.013
Title: Re: MotoGP COTA 2015 ******SPOILER******
Post by: duccarlos on April 11, 2015, 04:53:15 PM
The Yamahas are definitely holding their own. MM is still the one to beat, but I might need to revise the Ducs.
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Post by: The Don on April 11, 2015, 07:12:12 PM
I'm impressed with the Suzuki, not bad for its second race. Now if aprilia could get their act together I'd really happy
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Post by: kopfjäger on April 11, 2015, 07:18:45 PM
Quote from: The Don on April 11, 2015, 07:12:12 PM
I'm impressed with the Suzuki, not bad for its second race. Now if aprilia could get their act together I'd really happy

Once again 'test' year for the Ape.  ;)
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Post by: Needle99 on April 12, 2015, 12:54:48 AM
Going to be test 2-3 years I have a feeling.....
(Unless they convince GIGI to come back....)
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Post by: ducpainter on April 12, 2015, 05:33:06 AM
http://www.motogp.com/en/news/2015/04/12/the-genius-that-is-marquez/173573 (http://www.motogp.com/en/news/2015/04/12/the-genius-that-is-marquez/173573)

Worth a read, and the lap he refers to is definitely worth a look.
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Post by: lazylightnin717 on April 12, 2015, 07:12:19 AM
That kid is incredible.

I really wish I could see him and Stoner dice it out.
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Post by: Triple J on April 12, 2015, 08:15:09 AM
MM's qualifying lap was nothing short of amazing...even more so when you consider he had just ran down pit lane to get his #2 bike.  [bow_down] [bow_down] [bow_down]
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Post by: triangleforge on April 12, 2015, 01:43:48 PM
So it appears that dropping 2 liters of fuel was (almost!) an issue for the Ducati after all!   [laugh]
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Post by: kopfjäger on April 12, 2015, 01:45:22 PM
Quote from: triangleforge on April 12, 2015, 01:43:48 PM
So it appears that dropping 2 liters of fuel was (almost!) an issue for the Ducati after all!   [laugh]

:D That bike is the real deal.  [clap]
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Post by: DarkMonster620 on April 12, 2015, 03:14:31 PM
Quote from: triangleforge on April 12, 2015, 01:43:48 PM
So it appears that dropping 2 liters of fuel was (almost!) an issue for the Ducati after all!   [laugh]
Since I have the Spanish speaking commentators, no way I can get the English guys, they were saying something about clutch . . .
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Post by: ab on April 12, 2015, 04:00:01 PM
Great qualifying by MM.

I am glad Rossi got podium.  Wish he beat Dovi, but since I like both, it will do :)

Really bad luck for Redding :(
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Post by: The Architect on April 12, 2015, 04:32:15 PM
Quote from: The Architect on April 08, 2015, 08:16:59 AM
1. Marquez
2. Rossi
3. Dovi
4. Iannone
5. Whore-hey

Rossi and Dovi are interchangeable.  Not so sure Ianonne will finish. 

I didn't get the order right but I was close.

Excellent race.  Marquez is an animal.  It was clear he came to win.
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Post by: Triple J on April 12, 2015, 05:48:38 PM
Quote from: Triple J on April 08, 2015, 08:41:53 AM


1. Dovi
2. MM
3. Rossi
4. JLo
5. Ianonne

Same here...right guys, wrong order.

Very good race for second. MM is indeed an animal!
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Post by: ducpainter on April 12, 2015, 06:19:11 PM
Marquez was not going to be denied. He let that be known with his quali performance.

Interesting that both GP15's ran out of fuel on the cool down lap. :P

I think Dovi played it smarter this time. He kept pushing Rossi from behind until Vale's front tire was toast and then took charge.
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Post by: Triple J on April 12, 2015, 06:21:19 PM
Gigi said the Ducs weren't using any extra fuel for the race...same as factories. So, not a big deal they ran out. I can see COTA going through more fuel than other tracks with the 2 long straights.

edit...this is a rumor I heard actually, and haven't read it yet. I expect that Motomatters will clear it all up in the coming days.

edit again...I think I was wrong. Pretty sure they were using 22L. Everyone gets 22L next year though.
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Post by: kopfjäger on April 12, 2015, 06:25:50 PM
Quote from: ducpainter on April 12, 2015, 06:19:11 PM
I think Dovi played it smarter this time. He kept pushing Rossi from behind until Vale's front tire was toast and then took charge.

The 'pass' he put on him was classic.
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Post by: ducpainter on April 12, 2015, 06:30:42 PM
Quote from: kopfjäger on April 12, 2015, 06:25:50 PM
The 'pass' he put on him was classic.
Dovi's or Rossi's?

They were both pretty good...Rossi's pass would have gotten him on the pavement if it was a lesser rider.
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Post by: SpikeC on April 12, 2015, 07:04:53 PM
 Now I know why my Comcast bill is so high.... I went to check to see if there would be a replay of the race around noon and found that the race was being broadcast live! Pretty cool!
Title: Re: MotoGP COTA 2015 ******SPOILER******
Post by: Needle99 on April 12, 2015, 07:36:43 PM
Quote from: ducpainter on April 12, 2015, 05:33:06 AM
http://www.motogp.com/en/news/2015/04/12/the-genius-that-is-marquez/173573 (http://www.motogp.com/en/news/2015/04/12/the-genius-that-is-marquez/173573)

Worth a read, and the lap he refers to is definitely worth a look.
Was a good read and the lap in question was pretty awesome.

He fought with the bike quite a lot during that lap, that and the fact he had just sprinted down pit lane, and then does a single flying lap was just  [bow_down]

Great race. Would have loved to see a bit of the Hayden/Miller battle. I have a feeling Miller took Bradl out, and then he started going backwards.....
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Post by: kopfjäger on April 12, 2015, 07:45:07 PM
Quote from: ducpainter on April 12, 2015, 06:30:42 PM
Dovi's or Rossi's?

They were both pretty good...Rossi's pass would have gotten him on the pavement if it was a lesser rider.

Dovis
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Post by: Raux on April 12, 2015, 10:59:37 PM
Yes it was cool to see hayden/millrr battle live. The dovi rossi battle too. But marquez, just wow, he was just so much more everything, accelerating longer between corners, braking later, leaning harder carrying more speed. Sat at last two turns and jsut wow.
Title: Re:
Post by: Raux on April 12, 2015, 11:00:20 PM
That moto2 ghost bike incident was wierd.
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Post by: ducpainter on April 13, 2015, 03:13:06 AM
Quote from: Raux on April 12, 2015, 11:00:20 PM
That moto2 ghost bike incident was wierd.
It traveled quite a distance after the rider bailed.
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Post by: TitanMonsterS4R on April 13, 2015, 06:54:47 AM
Loving this season as a new(ish) MotoGP fan.

Loving the fact that MM isnt running away with it in the first 2 laps. Rossi's form seems really nice and Dovi, well, he's a man to prove Gigi's a master designer once again.

Feeling for Whore-hey and Crusty.....Sure Crusty wishes he was back on the Duc. Don't think he will have a fighting chance at a podium if the Ducs continue this pace, Rossi shows he's the GOAT for anyone who forgot and Whore-hey gets into the mix....Didnt forget about MM but that's a given.
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Post by: Mhanis on April 13, 2015, 02:22:21 PM
Here are a few pics from the race:

My daughter met Nicky at the Tissot booth:

(http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii44/mhanis-colt/DSC_7015%201024x680.jpg) (http://s261.photobucket.com/user/mhanis-colt/media/DSC_7015%201024x680.jpg.html)

This was parked in Ducati Island:

(http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii44/mhanis-colt/DSC_7024%201024x680.jpg) (http://s261.photobucket.com/user/mhanis-colt/media/DSC_7024%201024x680.jpg.html)

(http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii44/mhanis-colt/DSC_7025%201024x680.jpg) (http://s261.photobucket.com/user/mhanis-colt/media/DSC_7025%201024x680.jpg.html)

Race Pics:

(http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii44/mhanis-colt/DSC_7063%201024x680.jpg) (http://s261.photobucket.com/user/mhanis-colt/media/DSC_7063%201024x680.jpg.html)

(http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii44/mhanis-colt/DSC_7114%201024x680.jpg) (http://s261.photobucket.com/user/mhanis-colt/media/DSC_7114%201024x680.jpg.html)

(http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii44/mhanis-colt/DSC_7150%201024x680.jpg) (http://s261.photobucket.com/user/mhanis-colt/media/DSC_7150%201024x680.jpg.html)

(http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii44/mhanis-colt/DSC_7173%201024x680.jpg) (http://s261.photobucket.com/user/mhanis-colt/media/DSC_7173%201024x680.jpg.html)

And here is what happens when you lose 2l of fuel:

(http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii44/mhanis-colt/DSC_7266%201024x680.jpg) (http://s261.photobucket.com/user/mhanis-colt/media/DSC_7266%201024x680.jpg.html)

Mark

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Post by: lazylightnin717 on April 13, 2015, 03:55:00 PM
Cool pics!
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Post by: Blackout on April 13, 2015, 04:30:47 PM
The commentating on Fox Sports 1 between Ralph Sheheen and Kevin Schwantz was just so   [bang] terrible.   Alot of dead air there boys. [thumbsdown] [thumbsdown]
Title: Re: MotoGP COTA 2015 ******SPOILER******
Post by: The Architect on April 13, 2015, 05:29:05 PM
Someone should tell Ralph that he's commentating a motorcycle race. 

Who was the rider who went down mid corner and ran off the track because traffic was coming?  Kevin noted that there was no reason why he didn't immediately get back on the bike.
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Post by: thought on April 13, 2015, 05:50:20 PM
Got home looking forward to seein the race... and the dvr didnt get the whole thing because of the delay :\
Title: Re: MotoGP COTA 2015 ******SPOILER******
Post by: kopfjäger on April 13, 2015, 06:24:10 PM
Quote from: Blackout on April 13, 2015, 04:30:47 PM
The commentating on Fox Sports 1 between Ralph Sheheen and Kevin Schwantz was just so   [bang] terrible.   Alot of dead air there boys. [thumbsdown] [thumbsdown]

Buy the MotoGP package and quit pregnant doging. You can even turn off the commentary of the announcers.  :-*
Title: Re: MotoGP COTA 2015 ******SPOILER******
Post by: duccarlos on April 14, 2015, 10:13:34 AM
Quote from: The Architect on April 13, 2015, 05:29:05 PM
Someone should tell Ralph that he's commentating a motorcycle race. 

Who was the rider who went down mid corner and ran off the track because traffic was coming?  Kevin noted that there was no reason why he didn't immediately get back on the bike.

That was Yonny. Yeah, he wasn't getting back on that thing. I believe that was on the last turn as they were punching it for the front straight.
Title: Re: MotoGP COTA 2015 ******SPOILER******
Post by: OT on April 14, 2015, 09:27:41 PM
So, now that the Duc has a 3rd and a 2nd, and appears to be quite competitive, what are the 'exemptions' that Ducati stands to lose as this success continues? 
Title: Re: MotoGP COTA 2015 ******SPOILER******
Post by: triangleforge on April 15, 2015, 06:38:03 AM
They lost 2 liters of fuel after the double podium in Qatar. The soft tire they lose after three dry race wins. They get to keep the concessions on number of engines, engine development & testing regardless.

Here's the 2015 rule rundown:

https://motomatters.com/analysis/2015/03/23/the_2015_motogp_rules_primer_engines_fue.html (https://motomatters.com/analysis/2015/03/23/the_2015_motogp_rules_primer_engines_fue.html)
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Post by: duccarlos on April 15, 2015, 08:27:44 AM
Only soft tires if they win 3 times in the dry.
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Post by: 1.21GW on April 15, 2015, 06:09:33 PM
I know I'm late to this, but I just watched the MM qualifying lap.  Wow!  If anyone ever asked me what is meant by "alien", I'd show them that clip.
Title: Re: MotoGP COTA 2015 ******SPOILER******
Post by: OT on April 16, 2015, 03:48:20 PM
Quote from: triangleforge on April 15, 2015, 06:38:03 AM
They lost 2 liters of fuel after the double podium in Qatar. The soft tire they lose after three dry race wins. They get to keep the concessions on number of engines, engine development & testing regardless.

Here's the 2015 rule rundown:

https://motomatters.com/analysis/2015/03/23/the_2015_motogp_rules_primer_engines_fue.html (https://motomatters.com/analysis/2015/03/23/the_2015_motogp_rules_primer_engines_fue.html)

So unless MM and VR are out for extended periods, it's unlikely they'll lose the "soft" tire (that, I presume, are softer than the rest of the field), which means they'll likely be in current equip configs for the rest of the year...?
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Post by: lazylightnin717 on April 16, 2015, 05:03:14 PM
I imagine that will be the case.

No matter how good the GP15 is, I don't see 3 dry race wins this season. Dovi is good and Crazy Joe is getting it...but MM is better.
Title: Re: MotoGP COTA 2015 ******SPOILER******
Post by: duccarlos on April 17, 2015, 06:02:03 AM
I could see them winning in Mugelo for example, but not many other places as long as MM and the Yamaha boys are around. Jorghey will get is act together and start putting pressure on MM and Vale. The Ducs will be thorns in their sides.
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Post by: thought on April 17, 2015, 09:17:31 AM
Just saw this gif... and I cant stop watching it.

http://gfycat.com/HardCoolCassowary (http://gfycat.com/HardCoolCassowary)
Title: Re: MotoGP COTA 2015 ******SPOILER******
Post by: Triple J on April 17, 2015, 09:28:37 AM
^^ That gif is bad ass.

I agree about the 3 wins...ain't happening this season.

That's OK though, they only use the soft tire for qualifying, if even then. It's not a real advantage anymore.
Title: Re: MotoGP COTA 2015 ******SPOILER******
Post by: triangleforge on April 17, 2015, 10:12:13 AM
Much as I'd like to be proven wrong, I'd agree that three dry wins is a bridge too far for Ducati, given the competition.

Interesting side note: Dovi says that the bikes didn't in fact run out of gas on the cool-down lap, but succumbed to "something with the tank" that he didn't want to disclose -

http://www.crash.net/motogp/news/217676/1/ducati-didnt-run-out-of-fuel.html (http://www.crash.net/motogp/news/217676/1/ducati-didnt-run-out-of-fuel.html)

Whatever it was, I'm just glad it didn't happen a lap earlier!
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Post by: The Architect on April 17, 2015, 12:06:35 PM
Quote from: thought on April 17, 2015, 09:17:31 AM
Just saw this gif... and I cant stop watching it.

http://gfycat.com/HardCoolCassowary (http://gfycat.com/HardCoolCassowary)

Talk about riding on the edge!!!!
Title: Re: MotoGP COTA 2015 ******SPOILER******
Post by: OT on April 17, 2015, 10:48:00 PM
Holy Gyroscopes, Batman!