Who is buying the new Camaro Z28?
My local dealer got one in and curiosity got the better of me and I stopped in to have a look It starts at 72K and the few options that were added quickly took it over 75K. You can get into a new Stingray for 7000 less and look less boy racer.
Carbon brakes and 500+ HP are a big deal on a chevy but seriously?
at least not in this life . . . 75K for a Camaro? . . .
Given the prices of a new diesel pickup it's not that far off the mark.
An F-150 can be 60K. [roll]
I'll stick to buses and walking . . .
Quote from: DarkMonster620 on April 30, 2015, 03:14:34 PM
I'll stick to buses and walking . . .
You should have free taxi rides for life......
Quote from: LMT on April 30, 2015, 03:22:18 PM
You should have free taxi rides for life......
still prefer buses and walking
Quote from: ducpainter on April 30, 2015, 03:11:24 PM
An F-150 can be 60K. [roll]
The top of the line Tundra is more than that. It's bad to the bone.
I'm sure I could get an F-150 past 60K.
Too much money.
Quote from: ducpainter on April 30, 2015, 03:11:24 PM
An F-150 can be 60K. [roll]
I know-it's absurd. I'm happy enough with my old trucks.
Quote from: kopfjäger on April 30, 2015, 03:42:09 PM
The top of the line Tundra is more than that. It's bad to the bone.
That's nuts on both.
I was curious, so I just went to their website's and did the build your own. With every expensive option I could fine, the Tundra came in around $60,200 and the F-150 $63,700. I'm sure there's some play there, still a lot of money for a truck.
I will also say, it flabbergasts me on how many new Stingray's I see around. I at least see 3-4 every time I go for a ride.
Bottom line is new (nice) vehicles are expensive.
Quote from: kopfjäger on April 30, 2015, 04:05:33 PM
Bottom line is new (nice) vehicles are expensive.
I know...just bought one.
Quote from: lightspd on April 30, 2015, 04:05:25 PM
I will also say, it flabbergasts me on how many new Stingray's I see around. I at least see 3-4 every time I go for a ride.
Because they're bad ass. [evil]
Z06. Big coin.
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Quote from: kopfjäger on April 30, 2015, 04:05:33 PM
Bottom line is new (nice) vehicles are expensive.
It's really relative.
A 1971 Pinto would be close to 12K today based on inflation.
What's really scary is it was a better car than some of the 'technology' they offer today. :-*
Quote from: ducpainter on April 30, 2015, 04:17:16 PM
It's really relative.
A 1971 Pinto would be close to 12K today based on inflation.
What's really scary is it was a better car than some of the 'technology' they offer today. :-*
We'll of course , but the Pinto was a bad bad reference. :D
Quote from: kopfjäger on April 30, 2015, 04:29:17 PM
We'll of course , but the Pinto was a bad bad reference. :D
Nope...
They were never built to be crashed...you're supposed to drive them. :-*
There was a time when we didn't need so much protection from ourselves.
Quote from: ducpainter on April 30, 2015, 04:31:19 PM
Nope...
They were never built to be crashed...you're supposed to drive them. :-*
:D
Minimum wage when I was in HS was $1.50, it's over $10 now. It's all relative.
Quote from: kopfjäger on April 30, 2015, 04:33:44 PM
:D
Minimum wage when I was in HS was $1.50, it's over $10 now. It's all relative.
Perspective... ;D
Quote from: kopfjäger on April 30, 2015, 04:33:44 PM
:D
Minimum wage when I was in HS was $1.50, it's over $10 now. It's all relative.
$1.50 seems high to me. Were the war bonds subsidizing all that riveting?
Quote from: Satellite smithy on April 30, 2015, 04:59:58 PM
$1.50 seems high to me. Were the war bonds subsidizing all that riveting?
It was all we had. :D
kids... ;D
I started at a buck an hour, and could get at least as much grease on me as the truck.
It really is all relative.
I started at $4.25 an hour on the fishing boat :P
Quote from: Satellite smithy on April 30, 2015, 05:11:22 PM
I started at $4.25 an hour on the fishing boat :P
You must be a rich man by now. ;D ;)
Quote from: ducpainter on April 30, 2015, 05:09:58 PM
kids... ;D
I started at a buck an hour, and could get at least as much grease on me as the truck.
It really is all relative.
High Test was .25 cents when I was 16. :P
This'll do for now, till I get back to the box. ;)
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Quote from: kopfjäger on April 30, 2015, 05:21:15 PM
High Test was .25 cents when I was 16. :P
The internet has no record of when I was 16.
on my first job, I made 140/month working 48hrs/week, so do the math and this was without, social security, education tax or income tax deductions ... about $1.45/hr
This is all very discouraging. I'm in the market for a truck whenever I move out of this city, so I look online from time to time to see what F150s and Tacomas are going for. Not cheap. What happened? I was under the impression that a realitively basic tacoma or ranger or whatever was pretty affordable. Was this never the case?
Oh, and my first official adult job was a whopping $7.25/hr working in a guitar factory, which makes me feel like a sultan compared to you guys. ;D
I think prices have just gradually risen to their present level of stupidity.
Well, in most truck lines you CAN still order and buy an affordable truck. But it will likely have a black plastic grille, gray painted bumpers, and a rubber floor. And be powered by the base engine with no frills. Think fleet buy.
Of course, few dealers order these. They load them all up with every package known to man to jack up the per-unit profit.
I know my 6 year old 33k mile F150 FX4 crew cab is still worth right around 30K according to KBB.
Trucks are holding their value...
Quote from: NAKID on May 01, 2015, 10:46:06 AM
I know my 6 year old 33k mile F150 FX4 crew cab is still worth right around 30K according to KBB.
Trucks are holding their value...
I've noticed that. Good for you truck owners, bad for us used truck shoppers. :(
Quote from: NAKID on May 01, 2015, 10:46:06 AM
Trucks are holding their value...
That they do.
My 9-year-old F150 regular cab shorty 4X4 was still good for $12K on trade on my Jeep, and about the only thing that holds its value better is a Jeep Wrangler (for whatever reason).
Quote from: Speedbag on May 01, 2015, 10:34:00 AM
Well, in most truck lines you CAN still order and buy an affordable truck. But it will likely have a black plastic grille, gray painted bumpers, and a rubber floor. And be powered by the base engine with no frills. Think fleet buy.
Of course, few dealers order these. They load them all up with every package known to man to jack up the per-unit profit.
Fleet dealer is the way to go if you want bare bones. I bought way used and had to fix a bunch of things and I'm happy for it.
Long as we're all reminiscing I used to be handsome, too.
Still am when I [shot]
Quote from: 1.21GW on May 01, 2015, 10:23:08 AM
This is all very discouraging. I'm in the market for a truck whenever I move out of this city, so I look online from time to time to see what F150s and Tacomas are going for. Not cheap. What happened? I was under the impression that a realitively basic tacoma or ranger or whatever was pretty affordable. Was this never the case?
Oh, and my first official adult job was a whopping $7.25/hr working in a guitar factory, which makes me feel like a sultan compared to you guys. ;D
They convinced people trucks are luxury vehicles.
My fist job? $ .85 an hour. Yep, I'm older than dp :P
Quote from: howie on May 01, 2015, 08:54:30 PM
They convinced people trucks are luxury vehicles.
My fist job? $ .85 an hour. Yep, I'm older than dp :P
If you haven't driven one, they are luxury vehicles. Take a test ride in the new Tundra. ;)
Quote from: kopfjäger on May 01, 2015, 09:08:33 PM
If you haven't driven one, they are luxury vehicles. Take a test ride in the new Tundra. ;)
My buddy has a new Tundra. Nice truck, just not.....trucklike enough for me.
I'll stick with my rubber floored F350.
Works great for the kids-I can't hear them over the diesel. :P
Quote from: Satellite smithy on May 01, 2015, 10:33:17 PM
My buddy has a new Tundra. Nice truck, just not.....trucklike enough for me.
I'll stick with my rubber floored F350.
Works great for the kids-I can't hear them over the diesel. :P
:D
Quote from: Satellite smithy on May 01, 2015, 10:33:17 PM
Works great for the kids-I can't hear them over the diesel. :P
Sounds like my school bus. That I-6 Caterpillar is rather chatty. I understand the 'trucklike' feeling. I have manual windows, manual door locks, no security system, navigation, computer console etc. and I love it. My dad just got a Chevy 2500, and it took us 20 minutes just to get the dash set up where we could see what we wanted.
JM
I heard from someone that the pay rate on Howie and Nate's first Job was a Denarius (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denarius) for a days work, not this dollar and cents they are trying to convince us they made. Obvious attempt to make themselves seem younger. Vanity... [roll]
;D
Currency conversion.
My f250 priced at 62k in 2011 when I bought it but of course I paid much less, in fact $12k less. Interest at 1.99 on a 5 year note and today she prices at $40k+. I never walked in intending to spend that coin but impulse got the best of me. So I guess what I'm saying is that at these loan rates it's worth considering and if KBB is any indication, should I sell the truck it has only cost me around 8k over 4 years which is about $166/month. I'm not including diesel, insurance prices or all the "I must have" shit she's adorned with to make her look good. [cheeky]
Anyway, it's all relative.
I'd rather look for a salvaged titled truck and throw my own motor in it. I won't pay over 20k for a truck. I'm upset the traverse cameo out to 32k after tax interest paid over loan.