hadn't riden it 20 miles when it shut down on me... I had to sit by the side of the road for it to cool off. It was running around 242 or so when it shut off. What is a normal operating temp? Granted it was 95 degrees out...but what am I supposed to do in stop and go traffic?? Ugh. Suggestions?
Thanks!
Hooks'em!
hm,.........that doesnt sound right.
try posting in the Tech section for a more comprehensive response than mine
that's a normal operating temp. start to worry above 300. i have a feeling the bike just stalled on ya.
Quote from: aaronb on July 15, 2008, 07:47:33 PM
that's a normal operating temp. start to worry above 300. i have a feeling the bike just stalled on ya.
Quote from: herm on July 15, 2008, 07:41:07 PM
hm,.........that doesnt sound right.
try posting in the Tech section for a more comprehensive response than mine
+1...+1 [bacon]
Don't sit in stop and go traffic in 95-degree weather. ;)
In fact... don't go outside during the day in 95-degree weather.
Ugh I hate the heat... >:(
lol good luck [thumbsup]
Your temp is normal.
320 is overheating. Your display will start flashing "HI"
I ran in 95+ degree weather all day in traffic.
Got to about 260 and ran fine.
I think you just stalled it -- (And s2r's are known for low-speed stalls...)
Quote from: wbeck257 on July 15, 2008, 08:02:37 PM
Your temp is normal.
320 is overheating. Your display will start flashing "HI"
I ran in 95+ degree weather all day in traffic.
Got to about 260 and ran fine.
I think you just stalled it -- (And s2r's are known for low-speed stalls...)
Very good to know. I was coasting at around 10 MPH when it stalled. Perhaps the engine just stalled after all. I never really thought about that. Much THANKS!
Yep they stall....
My BMW Replika would and not start for 30 minutes, at least the Duc bumps right back.
Seems like if you are on and off the gas then stop she will stall..... dang she is a she...
Dave
named her Lola... reminds me of a stripper that I met a couple weeks back... ;-)
14T might help with your 10mph traffic creep, otherwise there will be a bunch of clutchwork at that speed
The L twin lugs along but....it takes a bit to get the feel.
The same thing has happened to me 3 or 4 times on the s2r. Pulling up to a red light, pull the clutch in, bike dies. I have never had a problem getting it started again, and it never has happened more than once on any single ride. Operating temp every time it happened was in the 230-240 range.
It seems to be the nature of the beast.
I stay out of 95 degree weather and ride when it gets cooler. I made the mistake of riding in the heat and got caught in stop-and-go traffic. Talk about miserable! [bang]
Yeah, my bike idles like shit in hot weather.
It really pisses me off that I can get my carb'ed peice of shit to idle but my damn fuel injected bike won't w/o a trip to a dealer.
I'm starting to understand why people ride jap bikes.
Quote from: Snake on July 16, 2008, 04:38:37 AM
The same thing has happened to me 3 or 4 times on the s2r. Pulling up to a red light, pull the clutch in, bike dies. I have never had a problem getting it started again, and it never has happened more than once on any single ride. Operating temp every time it happened was in the 230-240 range.
+1 Happened to my on a S4RS last year for about 2~3 times. The consensus from the TOB was that the bike was running a tad lean and will occassionally stall-out at the stop light.
I live in Dallas, and have hit 300F every now and then in stop and go traffic. She cools back down once I get moving. My normal commuting temps are between 240 and 260F in the summer here.
My S4R did the same thing right out of the dealership...turns out that Ducatis have a tendancy to have the wrong fuel mixture from the start. My guess is that it is a fuel mixture problem that is easily fixed.
Quote from: ducpenguin on July 16, 2008, 06:32:38 AM
My S4R did the same thing right out of the dealership...turns out that Ducatis have a tendancy to have the wrong fuel mixture from the start. My guess is that it is a fuel mixture problem that is easily fixed.
Yeah, buying the DP ECU is an easy fix.
However it isn't that easy to come up with the $$$ for that.
Just a thought, if your bike had been sitting in the sun for a while and it stalls, pop the gas cap and listen for the tell-tale whoooosh sound of a vapor lock. I know out here in Las Vegas during the summer I have to consistently open my gas cap on my KLR 650 once the black tank has been sitting in the sun all day.
Another question, have you removed the emission setup?
It will be really hard for you to get an air-colled monster to over heat.
The stalling issues on the s2r 1000 are a whole nother issue, there are some threads about it in tech.
Don't worry about the temps unless you are heading north of 300
[thumbsup] on the new ride
As others have said, thats a normal temp for your AIR/OIL cooled bike. When my S2R 1000 was new, I had a problem on hot days where it was hard to start/would stall right after start. you know what fixed it? removing the stupid charcoal canister.
you guys say 300? no problems?
here in west australia if you dont ride in 95f days, you dont ride most of the summer...
I was riding a friends and hit 135C (275F) and it shut down and wouldn't start for 1/2 hr till it cooled! ?
Yeah dude I have been riding my ride for 2 yrs plus I avg temps during the summer from anywhere in the the range of 250 - 275. I did hit 300 once got nervous let it cool down to about 290 then road the shoulder to the nearest exit got off and took local streets to get home. If you are hitting temps of 240 and its shutting off something else is the problem have the dealer check it and let him know. Good luck
-Panthro
I'd take it to shop and have them set the idle to the upper limits, check the TB's, TPS and plugs for good measure. That should clear up a lot of the low speed stalling issues. <$100
just wanted to share my experience: my girl and i were caught in stop-n-go traffic on the way back to nyc trying to take the gwb crossing on a really hot day about a month ago. the temp gauge was reaching a little over 300 so i started shutting the engine down when i can. since i had my girl with me, i didn't want to have to pull over and stand around the side of the highway. it went as high as 315 at one point and then thankfully, the traffic opened up once we got to the toll booths (damn those people without e-z pass) and the temp went back to hovering around 285 degrees. i called up ducati n.a. the next day and spoke to customer service and they told me that since my bike is air-cooled temps might get that high but don't worry too much as long as it doesn't stay there for too long. i hope the rep wasn't pulling my chain.
The DP ECU would probably fix that problem (it's likely not the temp, but the too-lean-from-the-factory fuel mixture) but a cheaper solution is the RapidBike 02 Emulator (the new one.) I have an 08 s2r 1k which used to SUCK BALLS in stop & go traffic, or whenever it was hot. Rough running, some stalls, and generally a pain in the ass unless I was high in the rev range. I live in So Cal, so hot temps were a regular occurrence much of the year.
Adding a 14t sprocket helped some, but I still had the problem. The 02 Emulator richens the mix across the range, generally makes the bike run smoother, and really, really helps out at low RPMs. For $250, it is absolutely the best mod I've done on the bike. And hot days no longer make a noticeable difference.
This is lifted directly from the S2R800 Ducati service manual in the section under "Oil Temperature Warning" (Section P7 page 53 for anybody who wants to look). I would assume it wouldn't be any different for the 1000cc air-cooled engine.
When the oil temperature goes below 50 degrees C/ 122 degrees F, "LO" will be displayed.
"HI" will be displayed when the temperature exceeds 170 degrees C/ 338 degrees F.
Based on that I can't see where you were anywhere near the danger zone.
Oh BTW...Welcome to the gang [thumbsup]
similar situation;
new 2007 s4rs hot florida weather, stop and go traffic,
still in break in miles....
temp rose to high 240s and bike cut off,
restarted immediately...
just reached 600 miles this past weekend,
scheduled for 600 mi service next tues, will ask them then....
the bike shouldnt shut down and not be able to restart. There is no operation i know of that kills the engine if its running to hot. Id get that checked out. ducpainter always said "thats why i dont have a temp gauge".
Fully synthetic, no questions asked. if you hit Hi. pull over, otherwise pour some ice in your pants and keep going! THe worst stretch was riding on canal st in nyc. WHen that place is backed up. its BACKED the make the beast with two backs up, and its over 100 degrees from the cars that your surrounded by. Ill shut my engine off an just walk it, unless i can lane split.
Quote from: He Man on July 17, 2008, 09:40:09 PM
Ill shut my engine off an just walk it, unless i can lane split.
whoa, thats drastic measures!
You could just ride it down the stairs and take it on the subway [moto]
Quote from: Evil_Ductator on July 17, 2008, 10:40:28 PM
whoa, thats drastic measures!
You could just ride it down the stairs and take it on the subway [moto]
Only in my dreams... AND Grand Theft Auto 4....