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Title: 2016 MotoGP - Le Mans - Spoilers for sure
Post by: Speeddog on May 05, 2016, 01:35:09 PM
Might as well get the party started.

Best pic so far from the presser:

(http://www.superbikeplanet.com/image/2016/motogp/lemons/1/6.jpg)

Title: Re: 2016 MotoGP - Le Mans - Spoilers for sure
Post by: kopfjäger on May 05, 2016, 02:56:45 PM
'I'm so happy to be here I good just shit'!!

'I need to trim this make the beast with two backsing nail'
Title: Re: 2016 MotoGP - Le Mans - Spoilers for sure
Post by: Speeddog on May 05, 2016, 03:40:04 PM
Quote from: kopfjäger on May 05, 2016, 02:56:45 PM
'I'm so happy to be here I good just shit'!!

'I need to chew down this make the beast with two backsing nail'

FIFY  [laugh]
Title: Re: 2016 MotoGP - Le Mans - Spoilers for sure
Post by: kopfjäger on May 05, 2016, 04:06:01 PM
 [laugh] [laugh] I actually went back and forth.  [thumbsup]
Title: Re: 2016 MotoGP - Le Mans - Spoilers for sure
Post by: duccarlos on May 06, 2016, 06:01:04 AM
FP1:

Pos.   Num.   Rider   Nation   Team   Bike   Km/h   Time   Gap 1st/Prev.
1   26   Dani PEDROSA   SPA   Repsol Honda Team   Honda   313.2   1'34.042   
2   99   Jorge LORENZO   SPA   Movistar Yamaha MotoGP   Yamaha   311.9   1'34.086   0.044 / 0.044
3   93   Marc MARQUEZ   SPA   Repsol Honda Team   Honda   309.1   1'34.323   0.281 / 0.237
4   4   Andrea DOVIZIOSO   ITA   Ducati Team   Ducati   314.2   1'34.343   0.301 / 0.020
5   46   Valentino ROSSI   ITA   Movistar Yamaha MotoGP   Yamaha   306.7   1'34.452   0.410 / 0.109
6   29   Andrea IANNONE   ITA   Ducati Team   Ducati   316.0   1'34.489   0.447 / 0.037
7   44   Pol ESPARGARO   SPA   Monster Yamaha Tech 3   Yamaha   308.5   1'34.597   0.555 / 0.108
8   25   Maverick VIÃ'ALES   SPA   Team SUZUKI ECSTAR   Suzuki   308.4   1'34.632   0.590 / 0.035
9   76   Loris BAZ   FRA   Avintia Racing   Ducati   302.7   1'34.727   0.685 / 0.095
10   35   Cal CRUTCHLOW   GBR   LCR Honda   Honda   307.6   1'34.732   0.690 / 0.005
11   38   Bradley SMITH   GBR   Monster Yamaha Tech 3   Yamaha   308.6   1'34.757   0.715 / 0.025
12   41   Aleix ESPARGARO   SPA   Team SUZUKI ECSTAR   Suzuki   302.1   1'34.799   0.757 / 0.042
13   8   Hector BARBERA   SPA   Avintia Racing   Ducati   311.5   1'34.816   0.774 / 0.017
14   45   Scott REDDING   GBR   OCTO Pramac Yakhnich   Ducati   312.6   1'34.984   0.942 / 0.168
15   9   Danilo PETRUCCI   ITA   OCTO Pramac Yakhnich   Ducati   305.7   1'35.308   1.266 / 0.324
16   68   Yonny HERNANDEZ   COL   Aspar Team MotoGP   Ducati   306.3   1'35.355   1.313 / 0.047
17   6   Stefan BRADL   GER   Aprilia Racing Team Gresini   Aprilia   299.2   1'35.381   1.339 / 0.026
18   43   Jack MILLER   AUS   Estrella Galicia 0,0 Marc VDS   Honda   301.9   1'35.465   1.423 / 0.084
19   19   Alvaro BAUTISTA   SPA   Aprilia Racing Team Gresini   Aprilia   306.8   1'35.798   1.756 / 0.333
20   53   Tito RABAT   SPA   Estrella Galicia 0,0 Marc VDS   Honda   297.6   1'36.283   2.241 / 0.485
21   50   Eugene LAVERTY   IRL   Aspar Team MotoGP   Ducati   306.9   1'36.472   2.430 / 0.189
Title: Re: 2016 MotoGP - Le Mans - Spoilers for sure
Post by: kopfjäger on May 06, 2016, 06:30:36 AM
Glad to see Petrucci back on the track.  [thumbsup]
Title: Re: 2016 MotoGP - Le Mans - Spoilers for sure
Post by: Blackout on May 06, 2016, 07:43:37 AM
Doppelganger.

(http://static-q.blogo.it/twowheelsblog/th/2013/8/p41135-300x170.jpg?t=1376468904)

(http://www.itu.dk/~jrsc/Exercise3/images/cleese.jpg)
Title: Re: 2016 MotoGP - Le Mans - Spoilers for sure
Post by: duccarlos on May 06, 2016, 11:54:35 AM
FP2

Pos.   Num.   Rider   Nation   Team   Bike   Km/h   Time   Gap 1st/Prev.
1   99   Jorge LORENZO   SPA   Movistar Yamaha MotoGP   Yamaha   311.5   1'32.830   
2   29   Andrea IANNONE   ITA   Ducati Team   Ducati   314.4   1'33.169   0.339 / 0.339
3   93   Marc MARQUEZ   SPA   Repsol Honda Team   Honda   307.4   1'33.313   0.483 / 0.144
4   44   Pol ESPARGARO   SPA   Monster Yamaha Tech 3   Yamaha   309.1   1'33.406   0.576 / 0.093
5   4   Andrea DOVIZIOSO   ITA   Ducati Team   Ducati   315.7   1'33.574   0.744 / 0.168
6   41   Aleix ESPARGARO   SPA   Team SUZUKI ECSTAR   Suzuki   304.0   1'33.595   0.765 / 0.021
7   25   Maverick VIÃ'ALES   SPA   Team SUZUKI ECSTAR   Suzuki   307.1   1'33.613   0.783 / 0.018
8   26   Dani PEDROSA   SPA   Repsol Honda Team   Honda   308.8   1'33.748   0.918 / 0.135
9   8   Hector BARBERA   SPA   Avintia Racing   Ducati   311.0   1'33.951   1.121 / 0.203
10   46   Valentino ROSSI   ITA   Movistar Yamaha MotoGP   Yamaha   305.9   1'33.974   1.144 / 0.023
11   9   Danilo PETRUCCI   ITA   OCTO Pramac Yakhnich   Ducati   309.8   1'34.050   1.220 / 0.076
12   35   Cal CRUTCHLOW   GBR   LCR Honda   Honda   309.1   1'34.053   1.223 / 0.003
13   45   Scott REDDING   GBR   OCTO Pramac Yakhnich   Ducati   310.3   1'34.083   1.253 / 0.030
14   38   Bradley SMITH   GBR   Monster Yamaha Tech 3   Yamaha   308.4   1'34.306   1.476 / 0.223
15   76   Loris BAZ   FRA   Avintia Racing   Ducati   302.3   1'34.364   1.534 / 0.058
16   50   Eugene LAVERTY   IRL   Aspar Team MotoGP   Ducati   308.7   1'34.425   1.595 / 0.061
17   68   Yonny HERNANDEZ   COL   Aspar Team MotoGP   Ducati   307.0   1'34.531   1.701 / 0.106
18   43   Jack MILLER   AUS   Estrella Galicia 0,0 Marc VDS   Honda   304.7   1'34.656   1.826 / 0.125
19   6   Stefan BRADL   GER   Aprilia Racing Team Gresini   Aprilia   300.2   1'34.742   1.912 / 0.086
20   53   Tito RABAT   SPA   Estrella Galicia 0,0 Marc VDS   Honda   299.8   1'34.789   1.959 / 0.047
21   19   Alvaro BAUTISTA   SPA   Aprilia Racing Team Gresini   Aprilia   305.5   1'35.089   2.259 / 0.300
Title: Re: 2016 MotoGP - Le Mans - Spoilers for sure
Post by: koko64 on May 07, 2016, 03:50:15 AM
Crazy Andrew tops FP3 stealing a tow from Boy George. He'd be popular.
Title: Re: 2016 MotoGP - Le Mans - Spoilers for sure
Post by: koko64 on May 07, 2016, 07:59:04 AM
Pole: Boy George smashes lap record. Michelin happy.
2nd: MM
3rd: Crazy Andrew
4th: Pol Esp (bravo)
5th: Sedate Andrew
6th: Smith (well done lad)
7th: Golden Boy
8th: Top Gun
9th: Crusty
10th: Petrucci (welcome back)
Title: Re: 2016 MotoGP - Le Mans - Spoilers for sure
Post by: koko64 on May 08, 2016, 05:16:11 AM
Not again! [bang]
Title: Re: 2016 MotoGP - Le Mans - Spoilers for sure
Post by: ducpainter on May 08, 2016, 06:13:15 AM
Bizarre for sure.
Title: Re: 2016 MotoGP - Le Mans - Spoilers for sure
Post by: Rameses on May 08, 2016, 06:18:47 AM


Someone please fill me in on what happened.

I'm sitting in an airplane that's waiting to take off.

Title: Re: 2016 MotoGP - Le Mans - Spoilers for sure
Post by: duccarlos on May 08, 2016, 06:20:02 AM
Typical race for Ducati. Dovi was in full job conservative mode by blocking for Jorghey. Crashy Joe finally got around the human speed bump to later manage to bean it down the road. MM and the speed bump decided to work on their synchronized crashing skills and handed Kopf's boy his first podium. On a final note, how does MCN expect Crutchlow to get another factory ride when he has crashed 4 out of the 5 races?
Title: Re: 2016 MotoGP - Le Mans - Spoilers for sure
Post by: ducpainter on May 08, 2016, 06:21:31 AM
Quote from: Rameses on May 08, 2016, 06:18:47 AM

Someone please fill me in on what happened.

I'm sitting in an airplane that's waiting to take off.


Lorenzo...Rossi...Vinales.

Iannone crashed out of second which put Dovi into second with Marquez in third...Rossi gaining.

Dovi and Marquez crashed simultaneously which put Rossi into second. Marquez rejoined and finished last.

A crash fest in general with only 13 finishing.
Title: Re: 2016 MotoGP - Le Mans - Spoilers for sure
Post by: DarkMonster620 on May 08, 2016, 06:25:30 AM
weird race . ..  most falls in same corner . .. ???
Title: Re: 2016 MotoGP - Le Mans - Spoilers for sure
Post by: koko64 on May 08, 2016, 06:26:52 AM
Crashy Andrew did himself no favours again. Shame, he looked like he had pace like he often does, then pushed too hard.

There was a patch of different tarmac (a patch job) which appeared to have less grip on that corner. Both Dovi and MM lost the front as they hit it making it look like a synchronized crash. I don't think they were the only ones to crash there. I'll have to watch the replay closely.
Title: Re: 2016 MotoGP - Le Mans - Spoilers for sure
Post by: Rameses on May 08, 2016, 06:27:31 AM

Interesting.

Was there anything in particular that caused everybody to hit the deck?

Weather, or track conditions, or anything?

Title: Re: 2016 MotoGP - Le Mans - Spoilers for sure
Post by: Rameses on May 08, 2016, 06:28:52 AM
Quote from: koko64 on May 08, 2016, 06:26:52 AM

There was a patch of different tarmac (a patch job) which appeared to have less grip on that corner. Both Dovi and MM lost the front as they hit it making it look like a synchronized crash. I don't think they were the only ones to crash there. I'll have to watch the replay closely.


Ahhh, got it.
Title: Re: 2016 MotoGP - Le Mans - Spoilers for sure
Post by: koko64 on May 08, 2016, 06:33:57 AM
It is a slick track by nature and although the weather was ok, it was cloudy and not real warm. That patch job on the track will probably come under some scrutiny.
Title: Re: 2016 MotoGP - Le Mans - Spoilers for sure
Post by: koko64 on May 08, 2016, 06:37:52 AM
The Yamahas and Suzukis certainly seem to be the best handling bikes with the best front end grip compared to the Hondas and Ducatis which also happen to have more power. It's a tough balance at this level and Le Mans exposes any weaknesses in a bikes handling.
Title: Re: 2016 MotoGP - Le Mans - Spoilers for sure
Post by: HotIce on May 08, 2016, 06:38:46 AM
Quote from: ducpainter on May 08, 2016, 06:21:31 AM
Lorenzo...Rossi...Vinales.

Iannone crashed out of second which put Dovi into second with Marquez in third...Rossi gaining.

Dovi and Marquez crashed simultaneously which put Rossi into second. Marquez rejoined and finished last.
Didn't wake up  :-\ ... but wasn't VR 2nd when Dovi and MM slid?
Title: Re: 2016 MotoGP - Le Mans - Spoilers for sure
Post by: ducpainter on May 08, 2016, 06:50:40 AM
Quote from: HotIce on May 08, 2016, 06:38:46 AM
Didn't wake up  :-\ ... but wasn't VR 2nd when Dovi and MM slid?

Yeah...he had already passed them.

It put Vinales on the podium.
Title: Re: 2016 MotoGP - Le Mans - Spoilers for sure
Post by: duccarlos on May 08, 2016, 08:13:49 AM
Quote from: ducpainter on May 08, 2016, 06:50:40 AM
Yeah...he had already passed them.

It put Vinales on the podium.

Yep, VR had a really good pace going. MM was already on the jagged edge trying to keep up, but that patch took both of them out real quick. Crashy Andres was in a completely different corner trying to catch up to Jorghey. I think Stoner would have described it as "his ambition outweighed his talent".
Title: Re: 2016 MotoGP - Le Mans - Spoilers for sure
Post by: kopfjäger on May 08, 2016, 08:41:42 AM
'My boy'   [thumbsup] 8)
Title: Re: 2016 MotoGP - Le Mans - Spoilers for sure
Post by: HotIce on May 08, 2016, 09:01:49 AM
For sure Michelin is not helping in making interesting MotoGP races. Many racers described the current tires as unpredictable, where you go from good to really bad, in a fraction of lean angle.
The Bridgestone they say, gave more feedback, and you could work your way to your limit.
Title: Re: 2016 MotoGP - Le Mans - Spoilers for sure
Post by: m9hundo on May 08, 2016, 09:29:22 AM
Quote from: duccarlos on May 08, 2016, 08:13:49 AM
Yep, VR had a really good pace going. MM was already on the jagged edge trying to keep up, but that patch took both of them out real quick. Crashy Andres was in a completely different corner trying to catch up to Jorghey. I think Stoner would have described it as "his ambition outweighed his talent".

Yep, AI entered that corner all wrong, way to steep and in trying to correct it leaned it too far over and out it went.

I guess props to MM for staying in and salvaging some points. A few more laps he probably would've ended in top ten with all the falls
Title: Re: 2016 MotoGP - Le Mans - Spoilers for sure
Post by: duccarlos on May 08, 2016, 11:44:58 AM
Quote from: HotIce on May 08, 2016, 09:01:49 AM
For sure Michelin is not helping in making interesting MotoGP races. Many racers described the current tires as unpredictable, where you go from good to really bad, in a fraction of lean angle.
The Bridgestone they say, gave more feedback, and you could work your way to your limit.

I remember a few years when the riders constantly complained about the Stones. These guys are the top riders in the world. You either adapt or you're out.

Cal is one of those that simply does not adapt to changes. He was good on the Yamaha, but has done squat on any other bike. Blaming the tires when so many others actually finish just shows that you have to either change what you're doing or slow down.
Title: Re: 2016 MotoGP - Le Mans - Spoilers for sure
Post by: duccarlos on May 08, 2016, 12:05:36 PM
http://www.motogp.com/en/news/2016/05/08/marquez-i-had-to-take-risks/200682 (http://www.motogp.com/en/news/2016/05/08/marquez-i-had-to-take-risks/200682)
Title: Re: 2016 MotoGP - Le Mans - Spoilers for sure
Post by: lazylightnin717 on May 08, 2016, 06:19:37 PM
It's been said before and I'll say it again

I was hoping all the changes in tires, electronics, etc., would make this season a bit more fun.

Ducati needs to ditch both Andreas and pick up someone else to ride alongside Lorenzo.
Title: Re: 2016 MotoGP - Le Mans - Spoilers for sure
Post by: ab on May 08, 2016, 06:55:05 PM
glad Podium for V46.  Not a fan of JLo, but he was unbeatable.
Title: Re: 2016 MotoGP - Le Mans - Spoilers for sure
Post by: m9hundo on May 09, 2016, 10:10:26 AM
Crutchlow... Where's the emoji with the head down and hand over the forehead.

His garage emoji  [bang]

Oh and when MM dumped it his crew chief had a very great F' it all reaction  [laugh]
Title: Re: 2016 MotoGP - Le Mans - Spoilers for sure
Post by: Rameses on May 11, 2016, 06:04:30 AM
Quote from: lazylightnin717 on May 08, 2016, 06:19:37 PM

Ducati needs to ditch both Andreas and pick up someone else to ride alongside Lorenzo.


Stoner!  [thumbsup]

Title: Re: 2016 MotoGP - Le Mans - Spoilers for sure
Post by: duccarlos on May 11, 2016, 07:28:22 AM
Quote from: Rameses on May 11, 2016, 06:04:30 AM

Stoner!  [thumbsup]



Not happening.