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Title: The totally unofficial old-ass tractor thread
Post by: Dirty Duc on July 10, 2016, 11:08:03 PM
So, like any red-blooded Arizonan, I own a tractor.

None of this pansy Northern Tool mail-order 4wd, reliable stuff that costs a second mortgage. Nope, '49 Farmall M.

OBTW, old farmers didn't believe in dipsticks or sight glasses. If the oil doesn't dribble out the hole, you need more.

So, a .020 under crank it is. This leads me to dealing with the kind of people that work in the stores that still sell stuff for antique tractors. Spoiler alert: they all talk real slow. And they have just discovered the internets and don't do it very well. So I have 2 sets of standard rod and main bearings, and one set of .010 unders (because the crank guy doesn't do communication well).

Since I'm into the crank, I might as well chuck the olde bores and get new ones that are an 1/8th bigger (dry sleeves)... and with pop-up pistons... and a head refresh (new valves, guides, springs). I buggered three of the guides on install, but only one was obvious. The reamer showed the other two.

It became known around the house as "the project that never ends" complete with song.

Today, 4 slugs in holes, crank and cam in the block (now if I can just find the bolts for the cam holder thing), valves in the head with springs. The end is in sight just in time to mow the anticipated weeds.
Title: Re: The totally unofficial old-ass tractor thread
Post by: Rameses on July 11, 2016, 10:25:03 PM

You kids, with your new-fangled M models.  [roll]



(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8715/27641513463_d64330f0bc_k.jpg)


;D

Title: Re: The totally unofficial old-ass tractor thread
Post by: Dirty Duc on July 11, 2016, 10:38:39 PM
M for monster... ðŸ˜,
Title: Re: The totally unofficial old-ass tractor thread
Post by: Rameses on July 11, 2016, 11:49:30 PM
Quote from: Dirty Duc on July 11, 2016, 10:38:39 PM
M for monster... ðŸ˜,


Like Honest Abe...

I cannot tell a lie.


The FC isn't actually mine.

Picture was from the night it spent in my driveway while I was hauling it to an auction for a buddy of mine a week ago.



I'll give you a picture of something older that I have tomorrow.  Again, nothing impressive

edit: grammar, sorry to disappoint
Title: Re: The totally unofficial old-ass tractor thread
Post by: Dirty Duc on July 12, 2016, 05:47:02 PM
I've heard even on the "new" tractors that the under-belly mowers are a pain to hook up.

I guess I should take pictures, but mine is kind of strewn across the yard in bits still.
Title: Re: The totally unofficial old-ass tractor thread
Post by: Rameses on July 13, 2016, 10:32:24 PM

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7622/28293742995_a7cbf7dc14_k.jpg)


There's the other one I mentioned.

It's a '47 Ford 2N.
Title: Re: The totally unofficial old-ass tractor thread
Post by: Speedbag on July 14, 2016, 05:11:08 AM
I had one of those little old Fords (only in a little better shape), they're neato.  8)
Title: Re: The totally unofficial old-ass tractor thread
Post by: Dirty Duc on July 18, 2016, 09:30:39 AM
The block is re-attached to the main tractor piece. Now to hang the rest of the engine bits on it.
Title: Re: The totally unofficial old-ass tractor thread
Post by: Rameses on July 18, 2016, 10:00:45 AM

I've always hated working on tractors.

With no frame, anything that requires separating the engine and transmission is a serious pain in the ass.
Title: Re: The totally unofficial old-ass tractor thread
Post by: Dirty Duc on July 18, 2016, 10:27:09 AM
And everything is absurdly heavy.

The engine is too heavy for the engine stand and right at the limit for the cherry-picker if it is only partially assembled.

It needed to come off for any number of reasons, but the throwout bearing was one of them.
Title: Re: The totally unofficial old-ass tractor thread
Post by: ducpainter on July 18, 2016, 10:34:47 AM
I need to split my old Massey. Needs a clutch and is getting really tired power wise.

Still cheaper than replacing, and everything today is more of a portable hydraulic unit than a tractor.
Title: Re: The totally unofficial old-ass tractor thread
Post by: Dirty Duc on July 18, 2016, 10:42:32 AM
Quote from: Rameses on July 13, 2016, 10:32:24 PM
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7622/28293742995_a7cbf7dc14_k.jpg)


There's the other one I mentioned.

It's a '47 Ford 2N.

I just noticed it is guarding what looks like a pair of motorcycle mufflers! :D
Title: Re: The totally unofficial old-ass tractor thread
Post by: Rameses on July 18, 2016, 11:56:44 AM
Quote from: Dirty Duc on July 18, 2016, 10:42:32 AM
I just noticed it is guarding what looks like a pair of motorcycle mufflers! :D

[laugh] [laugh]

Yeah. Those're a couple of stock stainless KTM cans.

Those bastards weigh about 50 lbs apiece.
Title: Re: The totally unofficial old-ass tractor thread
Post by: Dirty Duc on July 19, 2016, 12:37:23 PM
My favorite part of working on old tractors is the manual... where it says something to the effect of, "If it isn't immediately obvious, step away from the tractor. We're not going to waste time telling you to unscrew the five screws."
Title: Re: The totally unofficial old-ass tractor thread
Post by: Speeddog on July 19, 2016, 12:54:06 PM
Quote from: Rameses on July 18, 2016, 11:56:44 AM
[laugh] [laugh]

Yeah. Those're a couple of stock stainless KTM cans.

Those bastards weigh about 50 lbs apiece.


You're making a gravity well, I'd be careful with that if I were you.
Title: Re: The totally unofficial old-ass tractor thread
Post by: herm on July 19, 2016, 05:32:50 PM
Quote from: Rameses on July 13, 2016, 10:32:24 PM
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7622/28293742995_a7cbf7dc14_k.jpg)


There's the other one I mentioned.

It's a '47 Ford 2N.


One of these babies lived in my barn in Oregon for almost 2 years. Previous homeowner had no place to put it, so we traded storage space for tractor use...Pretty bullet proof.
Title: Re: The totally unofficial old-ass tractor thread
Post by: DarkMonster620 on October 11, 2016, 09:03:22 AM
If someone is interested,

http://www.roadandtrack.com/car-culture/classic-cars/news/a31121/affordable-air-cooled-porsche-tractor/ (http://www.roadandtrack.com/car-culture/classic-cars/news/a31121/affordable-air-cooled-porsche-tractor/)

(http://roa.h-cdn.co/assets/16/41/768x504/gallery-1476198812-1959-porsche-308-n-super.png)
Title: Re: The totally unofficial old-ass tractor thread
Post by: the_Journeyman on October 11, 2016, 09:09:08 AM
I've got a '76 Deere.  Dad and I use it for logging duties mostly now.

JM
Title: Re: The totally unofficial old-ass tractor thread
Post by: koko64 on October 11, 2016, 09:35:02 AM
Quote from: DarkMonster620 on October 11, 2016, 09:03:22 AM
If someone is interested,

http://www.roadandtrack.com/car-culture/classic-cars/news/a31121/affordable-air-cooled-porsche-tractor/ (http://www.roadandtrack.com/car-culture/classic-cars/news/a31121/affordable-air-cooled-porsche-tractor/)

(http://roa.h-cdn.co/assets/16/41/768x504/gallery-1476198812-1959-porsche-308-n-super.png)

Cool looking tractor. If I needed a tractor I'd have that one. [thumbsup]
You can see the wind tunnel work in the design. ;D
Title: Re: The totally unofficial old-ass tractor thread
Post by: koko64 on October 11, 2016, 09:41:19 AM
Quote from: the_Journeyman on October 11, 2016, 09:09:08 AM
I've got a '76 Deere.  Dad and I use it for logging duties mostly now.

JM

There must be one in every country town in the western world. [thumbsup]
Title: Re: The totally unofficial old-ass tractor thread
Post by: Dirty Duc on October 26, 2016, 09:52:50 PM
The M lives!

It still hates me, but with the mag rebuilt (again) and the rest buttoned up it makes a sweet lawnmower/path-maker. I bought it a grader blade, so it can pretend it is a grown-up.
Title: Re: The totally unofficial old-ass tractor thread
Post by: the_Journeyman on October 27, 2016, 11:10:54 AM
This belongs to a neighbor.  Still runs, basically all original except for the coffee can on the exhaust pipe.

(http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn168/the_journeyman/FB_IMG_1477591502678.jpg)

JM
Title: Re: The totally unofficial old-ass tractor thread
Post by: ducpainter on October 27, 2016, 01:01:21 PM
Is that one that starts off the flywheel by hand?
Title: Re: The totally unofficial old-ass tractor thread
Post by: the_Journeyman on October 28, 2016, 05:48:36 AM
I'm not sure, I've seen it running, but never watched him start it up.

JM
Title: Re: The totally unofficial old-ass tractor thread
Post by: ducpainter on October 28, 2016, 06:24:55 AM
It looks similar to a JD my buddy George has. You spin the flywheel to start it on gas, and then switch it over, once warm, to diesel run through a carburetor.
Title: Re: The totally unofficial old-ass tractor thread
Post by: the_Journeyman on October 28, 2016, 06:32:29 AM
It might be.  It's usual jobs are running a molasses mill and a grain mill off the PTO.  It doesn't see much field work anymore.

JM
Title: Re: The totally unofficial old-ass tractor thread
Post by: yamifixer on October 28, 2016, 09:29:58 AM
Quote from: the_Journeyman on October 27, 2016, 11:10:54 AM
This belongs to a neighbor.  Still runs, basically all original except for the coffee can on the exhaust pipe.

(http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn168/the_journeyman/FB_IMG_1477591502678.jpg)

JM

Although not factory the coffee can is mandatory
Title: Re: The totally unofficial old-ass tractor thread
Post by: DarkMonster620 on February 03, 2017, 05:51:53 AM
For those who wanna do the job fast

(https://scontent.fpac1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/16427382_10154117132657077_2621873703416496597_n.jpg?oh=65729d463b47a01789b5828cb699b965&oe=5902E2D6)
Title: Re: The totally unofficial old-ass tractor thread
Post by: the_Journeyman on February 03, 2017, 12:49:23 PM
Quote from: DarkMonster620 on February 03, 2017, 05:51:53 AM
For those who wanna do the job fast

(https://scontent.fpac1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/16427382_10154117132657077_2621873703416496597_n.jpg?oh=65729d463b47a01789b5828cb699b965&oe=5902E2D6)

I've got a half-acre, I'll be that wouldn't take long with either of those!

JM
Title: Re: The totally unofficial old-ass tractor thread
Post by: ute on February 03, 2017, 04:17:50 PM
My '67 Snapper

(http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b343/uterep/bike/100_1255.jpg)

(http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b343/uterep/bike/100_1256.jpg)


Use it for 1 acre of mowing at the Community Centre ( looks better now new seat and 12hp Kohler )
Title: Re: The totally unofficial old-ass tractor thread
Post by: the_Journeyman on February 03, 2017, 04:46:51 PM
First mower I ever used as one of those, back when I was 10-12 or so. 

JM
Title: Re: The totally unofficial old-ass tractor thread
Post by: Langanobob on February 05, 2017, 09:44:26 AM

Here's my '59 Allis Chalmers HD6-G, complete with security guards.

(http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z312/Langanobob/GuardDogs.jpg) (http://s191.photobucket.com/user/Langanobob/media/GuardDogs.jpg.html)
Title: Re: The totally unofficial old-ass tractor thread
Post by: DarkMonster620 on March 22, 2017, 07:56:29 PM
(https://scontent.fpac1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/17436300_1347900725232693_5352483041199367746_o.jpg?oh=b82e3f0517aed8b770d34e4a1746ec25&oe=5954F44D)