Since the get together at the Boyd's is not going to happen, how about we just all meet up at Motopia for the races.
There are plenty of tvs, food, and drink. WSBK will be on at noon and then the MotoGP will be on later at 4 (if I recall)
There's a good amount of MC parking and will be a good atmosphere to watch the race.
What say you?
http://www.motopiacafe.com/
I'll be there but most likely not till about 2:30 or 3:00.
I might go. Sarah's gonna be strapped to a tattoo table for a few hours and really there's no fun in watching someone get tattooed for more than like 10 min.
Now the decision - Trot out the sport 1000 again with open pipes or bring the cage? Hmmmmm
This happening? If so, what time is anyone/everyone heading over?
Ryan,
I am still planning on going. What time does Moto GP start?
Quote from: bryant8 on July 19, 2008, 12:44:44 AM
WSBK will be on at noon and then the MotoGP will be on later at 4
Thanks Scott. I will still be there around 2:30-3ish. You coming Scott? My buddy, Joe Martin may also show.
I'm a maybe for this, but not like an insanemcain maybe, & even stronger than a fastwin maybe, as it doesn't involve kitchen points ;D
I'm shooting for a little before noon for a sammich & race [thumbsup]
On my way NOW!
Well, I'm trying to be responsible and get some painting done at the house. We've been in this house a year and I'm sick of looking primered walls. I'm going to TRY to make it out for the GP race, but it really all depends on how fast this goes.
Quote from: Duc L'Smart on July 20, 2008, 09:02:40 AM
I'm a maybe for this, but not like an insanemcain maybe....
Speaking of whom--did we ever unload him from your trunk yesterday at ***'s place? [laugh]
Races are going good. Where is everybody?
ill prob be there around 4, have to go have lunch with the gf at her work first.
nvm gfs lunch is at 4 [bang] [bang] [bang] [bang]
guess ill head up there now so i can meet some of you guys and just tivo the race at home. :-\
also i just realized i dont know what anyone looks like. so if you see a kid getting off the red monster with spooge on the tank just yell richard at me haha.
Just talked to Charles. I'm going to meet him at Motopia before the MotoGP race. He's bringing my cooler to me... glad to hear it's empty!! [thumbsup] My buddy Greg flamed out on the race watch at the casa so I'll meet Charles and hang with you guys for the race. Is Ryan going? Has anyone heard from him? I know he said he was painting today and was a maybe. Ryan, if you read this come in your car. I have your stock Sports1000 pipes from Tommy. They are all nicely boxed up in the Termi box.
OK, that previous post may be wrong... at least the part about me. My friend has risen from the dead (he hurt his back) and now wants to come over after all to avoid some obnoxious in-laws that have appeared at his house. I think we can all relate. :P He's not feeling good enough for Motopia but will crawl over to my house just to escape crazy in-laws. He will call back in a bit to tell me for sure if he's coming or not. If he comes over I will be a no show for Motopia. Ryan, I will drop your pipes off tomorrow, just PM me and let me know if I can do like I did with the Sports1000 parts. If any Dallas wireless folks get this and you are in a car could you grab my cooler from Charles at Motopia? Sorry for the inconvenience. ;D
r u kiddin me the sbk races and the motogp races were f'n awesome today. i am so glad i tivo'd them i will watch the sbk last laps of both again tomm along with the battle between rossi and stoner.
Great day for racing, WSBK and GP were amazing. I just finished rewatching the GP race... wow
it was awesome finally getting to meet everyone that showed up
had a good time with some awesome racing [thumbsup]
Good Race...
and afterwards drama http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/motorsport/motorbikes/7516543.stm [laugh]
It was a great race, I don't think it was "past the point". Rossi's right, that racing.
What a race!
Quote from: bryant8 on July 20, 2008, 05:48:15 PM
It was a great race, I don't think it was "past the point". Rossi's right, that racing.
What a race!
Past the point is GP250 125, WSBK and SS... half the bikes have stickers from other bikes in the finish line... ;D
The highlights of the Rookies Cup showed some great fairing bashing!
Quote from: bryant8 on July 20, 2008, 05:48:15 PM
It was a great race, I don't think it was "past the point". Rossi's right, that racing.
What a race!
I agree 100%. I think he's disappointed in what happened to him. At least he said the wide run and fall were all his fault and didn't try to blame that on Rossi too. Heck, I've seen so many fairing banging races over the years in World SBK it's not funny. Didn't seen them whining afterwards. Rossi didn't do anything except ride the freaking wheels off that Yamaha... just like Stoner was doing. Too bad it didn't go all the way to the end. I still think the results would have been the same. The ball was definitely in Rossi's court today. Just awesome stuff!! Does it get any better? [thumbsup]
had a good time at motopia, until I left and got a ticket for doing 23 mph over the limit. I wasn't even doing 60. I think I made it like 500-600 yards from motopia when he pulled me. I didn't know there was a redlight around the corner, I was accelerating for the on ramp that wasn't there. Oh well, could've been worse. Could've been 3 weeks from now and a ticket for 88 in a 35 instead of 58. [leo]
DAMN IT!!! I needed a cardiologist after those first couple of laps :o
I think Stoner wouldn't have been so pissy after the race if Rossi hadn't pulled that banzai bullshit IN THE F$%#NG CORKSCREW! I'd be torque'd as hell too - lucky they weren't both Care Flight'd outta there... First friggin' lap... WTF? Seriously.
But I suppose there can be no doubt after today that Rossi is one of the best riders to ever walk the planet. Awesome stuff!
I BELIEVE! Can I get an 'Amen'? [evil]
^^^ damn...i shouldn't have read this post ^^^
Yes, amen. He could have won today pushing a wheelbarrow. Does anyone on this planet live as sweet a life as Rossi? He's the best (maybe ever, great argument!), single, Italian, super fun loving, huge fan base, very approachable and gregarious, always smiling and talking 100 miles a minute, paid millions for doing what he loves and would probably do for free and just seems to be busting open all the time with pure joy and happiness. He is MotoGP. He personifies the sport. Michael Schumacher was great and did the same for F1, but he was a cold, calculating German driver and it came across that way. Rossi is just busting at the seams as a fun loving, life loving, motorcycle loving, wild eyed Italian boy! He just exudes what we all feel and love about scooters. He just rocks. What a great time to be alive and witness greatness like that. [thumbsup] Long live the king.
Quote from: fastwin on July 20, 2008, 08:37:06 PM
Long live the king.
now all he needs to do is take some Rosetta Stone english lessons....
i'm told by the T.V. that it's the foremost method for learning a second language.... now if i could just learn italian...i couldn't keep the girls away [thumbsup] maybe i just need to watch more rossi interviews...
Quote from: Cher on July 20, 2008, 07:34:47 PM
DAMN IT!!! I needed a cardiologist after those first couple of laps :o
I think Stoner wouldn't have been so pissy after the race if Rossi hadn't pulled that banzai bullshit IN THE F$%#NG CORKSCREW! I'd be torque'd as hell too - lucky they weren't both Care Flight'd outta there... First friggin' lap... WTF? Seriously.
But I suppose there can be no doubt after today that Rossi is one of the best riders to ever walk the planet. Awesome stuff!
I BELIEVE! Can I get an 'Amen'? [evil]
they didnt event touch in corkscrew...
but i do remeber a lot of wild hair moments on this S section...
that was last year, pissed the hell out of Mladin but both Ben and mat said. that's Racing... nobody is going to say "please be my guest"
(http://www.amasuperbike.com/adm/upl/ttijswyeki_1190033714.jpg)
Quote from: giannis on July 20, 2008, 09:57:17 PM
they didnt event touch in corkscrew...
but i do remeber a lot of wild hair moments on this S section...
that was last year, pissed the hell out of Mladin but both Ben and mat said. that's Racing... nobody is going to say "please be my guest"
(http://www.amasuperbike.com/adm/upl/ttijswyeki_1190033714.jpg)
they would if they watched enough beauty and the beast...which they should have.
Quote from: McKraut on July 20, 2008, 09:58:58 PM
they would if they watched enough beauty and the beast...which they should have.
Step awaaay from the Nattie light
fair point. for the record, though, my SLC mormon-prep night consists of J&B.
Quote from: McKraut on July 20, 2008, 10:09:38 PM
SLC mormon-prep night
Sunday Latenight Counseling
???
they do sell beer somewhere there, right? or maybe i should be more worried about obtaining coffee...i hear that's also a no-no for those people.
Quote from: McKraut on July 20, 2008, 10:20:06 PM
they do sell beer somewhere there, right? or maybe i should be more worried about obtaining coffee...i hear that's also a no-no for those people.
Yea, I think just water, bread, veggies, and no lacy underthings
Quote from: Ronr on July 20, 2008, 10:22:08 PM
Yea, I think just water, bread, veggies, and no lacy underthings
that's wrong on so many levels....i just don't know how you live without lacy underthings? what kind of world would that be?
Someone better sit Casey down and tell him to chill! Whatever the outcome of the championship, if he lets Rossi in his head, he will become a has-been. It is Rossi's way to beat his closest competition. It's a mind game he plays. Rossi is not only good, he is cunning. Beneath his boyish appearance he is ruthless. He has eliminated both Biaggi and Gibernau from MotoGP, his house.
...."It has been shown several times that if things get personal then Valentino tends to come out on top. This has been demonstrated to both Mr Biaggi and Mr Gibernau. The Doctor does not waste ammunition on those opponents who are not a threat to him. Noises emanating from the Fiat Yamaha camp indicate that Rossi is very angry indeed at the suggestion that he rides dirty."...
from an article in superbike planet:
http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2008/Jul/080720rn.htm
It is racing but it can also be a little dirty too.
cdc
Sure its racing and things happen but if your the guy out front defending your line which is ON the track, your not expecting the guy to cut a corner by 2 or 3 feet in the dirt just to pass you on the inside?
I think Tom Cruise is trying to convert Valle to Scientology [laugh]
Quote from: Kevin848 on July 21, 2008, 01:16:56 AM
I think Tom Cruise is trying to convert Valle to Scientology [laugh]
Don't even talk that way. Cruise is scary. Keep him away from the riders at all costs. Probably has Katie and the kids locked in a dark closet somewhere. :P
Quote from: *** on July 20, 2008, 11:24:24 PM
Someone better sit Casey down and tell him to chill! Whatever the outcome of the championship, if he lets Rossi in his head, he will become a has-been. It is Rossi's way to beat his closest competition. It's a mind game he plays. Rossi is not only good, he is cunning. Beneath his boyish appearance he is ruthless. He has eliminated both Biaggi and Gibernau from MotoGP, his house...
You are SOOOO on the money with this post.
I started to type the same thing this morning... but had to go to work.
Yep, MotoGP is about to get even more interesting ;)
Quote from: *** on July 20, 2008, 11:24:24 PM
Someone better sit Casey down and tell him to chill! Whatever the outcome of the championship, if he lets Rossi in his head, he will become a has-been. It is Rossi's way to beat his closest competition. It's a mind game he plays. Rossi is not only good, he is cunning. Beneath his boyish appearance he is ruthless. He has eliminated both Biaggi and Gibernau from MotoGP, his house.
...."It has been shown several times that if things get personal then Valentino tends to come out on top. This has been demonstrated to both Mr Biaggi and Mr Gibernau. The Doctor does not waste ammunition on those opponents who are not a threat to him. Noises emanating from the Fiat Yamaha camp indicate that Rossi is very angry indeed at the suggestion that he rides dirty."...
from an article in superbike planet:
http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2008/Jul/080720rn.htm
It is racing but it can also be a little dirty too.
cdc
I agree with you CDC and Rich. But it is also clear that Stoner is not a Gibernau or Biaggi.
In fact, I think Rossi is messing with the wrong guy.
Quote from: McKraut on July 20, 2008, 10:23:56 PM
that's wrong on so many levels....i just don't know how you live without lacy underthings? what kind of world would that be?
Yeah, but do you have any idea how hard it is to find that stuff in my size? [bang]
Quote from: Cher on July 21, 2008, 07:18:14 AM
I agree with you CDC and Rich. But it is also clear that Stoner is not a Gibernau or Biaggi.
In fact, I think Rossi is messing with the wrong guy.
I hope you are right. I hope Aussies are a tougher bunch than the Europeans.
cdc
Crap. Sorry I missed it. But on the other hand the mudroom looks awesome. Painting in there is finished.
Anyone have it on DVR? Patrick? Bryant? I'd love to see what I missed. Stoner sounded pretty upset with Rossi.
I have a subscription to MotoGP.com. Full race w/ no Greg White commentary [thumbsup]
Hopkins isn't a bad commentator as a guest of the normal GP announcers
Quote from: bryant8 on July 21, 2008, 08:42:24 AM
I have a subscription to MotoGP.com. Full race w/ no Greg White commentary [thumbsup]
Hopkins isn't a bad commentator as a guest of the normal GP announcers
Feel free to shoot over that username and password. :)
After I've watched all the clips from the race
Quote from: Kevin848 on July 21, 2008, 12:37:25 AM
Sure its racing and things happen but if your the guy out front defending your line which is ON the track, your not expecting the guy to cut a corner by 2 or 3 feet in the dirt just to pass you on the inside?
I caught a glimpse of that as I walked in. It could have been a wipeout taking Casey out as well as Rossi. Maybe that is what spooked Casey. Everything else appeared to be "racing". I do remember Biaggi pushing out Rossi into the grass coming out of a corner at one race. Rossi then passed Biaggi and while leaned over, raised his left hand ("the one that works the clutch" ;D) to flip Biaggi the bird.
It seems he can give but doesn't want to receive "racing moves".
cdc
It's going to be one hell of a run for the championship if Stoner and Rossi (and Pedrosa once healthy) keep the racing as exciting as it was at Laguna.
No more snooze-fests from here on until the season is over.
Quote from: Kevin848 on July 21, 2008, 12:37:25 AM
Sure its racing and things happen but if your the guy out front defending your line which is ON the track, your not expecting the guy to cut a corner by 2 or 3 feet in the dirt just to pass you on the inside?
1:05 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiEJzgv0lzg
Rossi was ahead before the Corkscrew...
Hey Giannis, is AMS going to do anything at all for the Indy GP like last year's Laguna Seca party or are most of you guys going to the race?
Quote from: *** on July 21, 2008, 08:46:56 AM
I caught a glimpse of that as I walked in. It could have been a wipeout taking Casey out as well as Rossi. Maybe that is what spooked Casey. Everything else appeared to be "racing". I do remember Biaggi pushing out Rossi into the grass coming out of a corner at one race. Rossi then passed Biaggi and while leaned over, raised his left hand ("the one that works the clutch" ;D) to flip Biaggi the bird.
It seems he can give but doesn't want to receive "racing moves".
cdc
good thing i learned this watching the race the yesterday, i always was wondering
haha
Quote from: rsoffar on July 21, 2008, 01:27:30 PM
good thing i learned this watching the race the other yesterday, i always was wondering
haha
I was waiting for someone to comment. [laugh]
Don't forget that riders wear leather, boots, gloves, and a helmet--not to mention plastic pieces that are attached by velcro. [thumbsup]
Quote from: giannis on July 21, 2008, 10:26:44 AM
1:05 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiEJzgv0lzg
Rossi was ahead before the Corkscrew...
You're absolutely right; he was into the corner first. Unfortunately his "corner" had no pavement on it.
So was Rossi
planning on having Stoner' bike there on the track to stop his trajectory or was Rossi just going to alter the laws of time and space to avoid shooting off the other side of the track like a runaway freight train? I'm sorry but that was the most irresponsible thing I've seen in a long time, especially from a multi-time World Champion.
I hope Stoner kicks his ass.
Quote from: Cher on July 21, 2008, 02:44:01 PM
You're absolutely right; he was into the corner first. Unfortunately his "corner" had no pavement on it.
So was Rossi planning on having Stoner' bike there on the track to stop his trajectory or was Rossi just going to alter the laws of time and space to avoid shooting off the other side of the track like a runaway freight train? I'm sorry but that was the most irresponsible thing I've seen in a long time, especially from a multi-time World Champion.
I hope Stoner kicks his ass.
Exactly ... [thumbsup]
lisa i thought you were a big rossi fan. i could care less about either of them. i mean i hope ducati wins but the guy i like just isn't that good in gp. i would like to see casey run rossi like that and see what he has to say in post race and when he cries about it they should remind him of what he did. at that point you will see if he is a real racer or a guy who can dish it out but can't take it. nothing a little post race ass whooping wouldn't solve. if that was my career i don't think i could have somebody wreck (or even almost wreck) me w/o some behind the scenes discussion. i could handle a little leanin a little rubbin but don't wreck me. how many times have you seen a guy having a really good year get caught up in someone elses mess then...bang! suddenly the engine fails next race, then another accident, by then he's snake bite and at the end of the year he's looking for work.
Quote from: bryant8 on July 21, 2008, 10:39:04 AM
Hey Giannis, is AMS going to do anything at all for the Indy GP like last year's Laguna Seca party or are most of you guys going to the race?
I could be wrong but I don't think Giannis works at AMS any longer....but I could be wrong.
Swanny
Quote from: calscrazy on July 21, 2008, 06:45:23 PM
lisa i thought you were a big rossi fan. i could care less about either of them. i mean i hope ducati wins but the guy i like just isn't that good in gp. i would like to see casey run rossi like that and see what he has to say in post race and when he cries about it they should remind him of what he did. at that point you will see if he is a real racer or a guy who can dish it out but can't take it. nothing a little post race ass whooping wouldn't solve. if that was my career i don't think i could have somebody wreck (or even almost wreck) me w/o some behind the scenes discussion. i could handle a little leanin a little rubbin but don't wreck me. how many times have you seen a guy having a really good year get caught up in someone elses mess then...bang! suddenly the engine fails next race, then another accident, by then he's snake bite and at the end of the year he's looking for work.
Nope. Never been much of a fan for Rossi. That was an awesome ride though -
if you could somehow exclude that whole Corkscrew schmozl [bang] Guess I'm more of a Ducati fan than anything else.
Hmmm, imagine that ;D
Quote from: rsoffar on July 21, 2008, 01:27:30 PM
good thing i learned this watching the race the yesterday, i always was wondering
haha
I took notes> [thumbsup]
cdc
Quote from: Cher on July 21, 2008, 07:42:28 PM
Nope. Never been much of a fan for Rossi. That was an awesome ride though - if you could somehow exclude that whole Corkscrew schmozl [bang] Guess I'm more of a Ducati fan than anything else.
Hmmm, imagine that ;D
me too. what she said!
cdc
Quote from: calscrazy on July 21, 2008, 06:45:23 PM
i would like to see casey run rossi like that and see what he has to say in post race and when he cries about it they should remind him of what he did. at that point you will see if he is a real racer or a guy who can dish it out but can't take it. nothing a little post race ass whooping wouldn't solve.
Watch this a bit old for most of you but was very exiting to see it live back then...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ne842cT34oo
Rossi is on the Yellow NSR500, Biaggi rides the Marlboro YZR500 all that in Suzuka 7 years ago...
That was it.
Replays then showed a close up of Rossi leaned over and flipping Biaggi the bird. [laugh]
Both got fined for unsportsman-like conduct.
***
Jeez, if FIM started fining everyone that flipped Biaggi off then they all would be broke! [laugh]
Quote from: fastwin on July 23, 2008, 11:27:32 AM
Jeez, if FIM started fining everyone that flipped Biaggi off then they all would be broke! [laugh]
Good one [laugh]
Anyone remember this one?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uq1lIah0cXw
QuoteI'm sorry but that was the most irresponsible thing I've seen in a long time, especially from a multi-time World Champion.
I hope Stoner kicks his ass.
I really disagree. They get paid millions of dollars to race hard and win. Stoner could just as easily stuff his bike under Rossi and block pass in the same manner. Rossi has been using block pass tactics for years. Rossi was passing Stoner at turn 6 with ease. The corkscrew has seen that kind of action in many, many races over the years. Watch AMA and you'll see that exact same scenario happen on that part of the track. Spies and Mladin don't pregnant dog, they just claim its hard racing. Keep in mind that coming up to the corkscrew, Stoner leans his bike into Rossi coming off the previous turn. Its not like Stoner isn't racing aggressively.
The only reason Stoner moaned about it is because that was the first real time he's been challenged at the front in over a year. He's used to running with a huge cushion and flipped out when someone had the balls to play rough with him. If Stoner is running faster laps by about 3/10ths, then why isn't he stuffing it under Rossi the same way Rossi stuffs it under him with an admittedly slower bike? There is no reason Stoner can't win that race other than he just sucks on the brakes and can't do the same maneuvers.
I think winning tough battles like that, pushing yourself to the limits, and coming out on top is what legitimizes your work as a racer. In the end, Stoner came into turn 11 too hot and dumped his bike on his own without any pressure other than frustration of not being able to pass Rossi and make it stick. There is a difference between turning fast lap times alone on the track and turning fast lap times while trying to get around someone.
Stoner is a tough kid, and I'm sure will learn from this race and try to dish it out in the future, like he took it this last weekend. I expect him to push his bike so hard so that he doesn't have to race anyone again. He likes winning by big margins b/c he doesn't have to actually race anyone.
Honestly, I think the only reason Stoner was so pissed, was due to him dropping his bike at turn 11. My gut says if he finishes the race in second place, on Rossi's ass, he would have said "good race." Its more the scenario with which he came in second... not the fact he lost.
[popcorn]
Quote from: giannis on July 23, 2008, 12:23:44 PM
Good one [laugh]
Anyone remember this one?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uq1lIah0cXw
That was Nicky Hayden in the red honda and Colin Edwards in the yellow Yamaha at Assen last year? This year, Nicky runs out of gas while in 3rd in front of Colin who then passes him at the line?
What a race
***
Quote from: JesterDFW on July 23, 2008, 01:09:47 PM
I really disagree. They get paid millions of dollars to race hard and win. Stoner could just as easily stuff his bike under Rossi and block pass in the same manner. Rossi has been using block pass tactics for years. Rossi was passing Stoner at turn 6 with ease. The corkscrew has seen that kind of action in many, many races over the years. Watch AMA and you'll see that exact same scenario happen on that part of the track. Spies and Mladin don't pregnant dog, they just claim its hard racing. Keep in mind that coming up to the corkscrew, Stoner leans his bike into Rossi coming off the previous turn. Its not like Stoner isn't racing aggressively.
The only reason Stoner moaned about it is because that was the first real time he's been challenged at the front in over a year. He's used to running with a huge cushion and flipped out when someone had the balls to play rough with him. If Stoner is running faster laps by about 3/10ths, then why isn't he stuffing it under Rossi the same way Rossi stuffs it under him with an admittedly slower bike? There is no reason Stoner can't win that race other than he just sucks on the brakes and can't do the same maneuvers.
I think winning tough battles like that, pushing yourself to the limits, and coming out on top is what legitimizes your work as a racer. In the end, Stoner came into turn 11 too hot and dumped his bike on his own without any pressure other than frustration of not being able to pass Rossi and make it stick. There is a difference between turning fast lap times alone on the track and turning fast lap times while trying to get around someone.
Stoner is a tough kid, and I'm sure will learn from this race and try to dish it out in the future, like he took it this last weekend. I expect him to push his bike so hard so that he doesn't have to race anyone again. He likes winning by big margins b/c he doesn't have to actually race anyone.
Honestly, I think the only reason Stoner was so pissed, was due to him dropping his bike at turn 11. My gut says if he finishes the race in second place, on Rossi's ass, he would have said "good race." Its more the scenario with which he came in second... not the fact he lost.
[popcorn]
I agree with ya there Jacob. Great racing is more than the time trial of qualifying. I think Rossi just had the perfect tactic to keep Stoner from running away.
Quote from: *** on July 23, 2008, 01:34:55 PM
That was Nicky Hayden in the red honda and Colin Edwards in the yellow Yamaha at Assen last year? This year, Nicky runs out of gas while in 3rd in front of Colin who then passes him at the line?
What a race
***
Actually the accident was in 2006 and i believe the new name of the last 2 corners in Assen now is "Karma esses " [laugh]
Yeah, too bad for Edwards there. That was one of his only shots at a win in MotoGP. He just couldn't close the deal.
Quote from: JesterDFW on July 23, 2008, 04:44:05 PM
Yeah, too bad for Edwards there. That was one of his only shots at a win in MotoGP. He just couldn't close the deal.
Good to hear from you Jacob [thumbsup] How's life?!?