My wife has an '06 S4R (996) and would like to install Full System Zard's. Not sure if I need to use a PCIII or the Ducati chip? Any feedback would be appreciated.
TIA,
Fredy
ps. I did try and search and had no luck ???
[moto]
I'd go PC III, cut the air-box lid with a proper dyno tune. You'll be happy...
+1
It's a good idea. Making changes to the exhaust system changes the flow of air through the engine. If you don't match it with changes to the fuel flow you can't be sure you've got the correct air/fuel mix. A PCM3 and dyno run will optimize it across the entire rev range. It's worth it alone for the knowing that your bike is tuned to perfection.
Yes to PCM, big pipes, airbox top off. Don't skip the proper dyno tune - the other stuff doesn't work without this part. And
Post a power curve. [thumbsup]
I'm guessing 115 to 120 RWHP.
LA
Quote from: Fredy on July 21, 2008, 06:13:56 PM
My wife has an '06 S4R (996) and would like to install Full System Zard's. Not sure if I need to use a PCIII or the Ducati chip? Any feedback would be appreciated.
TIA,
Fredy
ps. I did try and search and had no luck ???
Fredy,
I don't remember for sure, but I think the 2006 S4R runs in closed loop? If you can confirm that, I could be more helpful. If it is closed loop, here's a thread I maintain on trying to mod the OEM ECU:
http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=655.0
The short answer to your question is Yes, if you go full exhaust
and open airbox. With closed/OEM airbox, it is less clear.
pc3 wont work for 06 bikes xpt the s2r800.
edit: and 2006 S4R
Quote from: He Man on July 25, 2008, 08:25:31 AM
pc3 wont work for 06 bikes xpt the s2r800.
Works fine on my 2006 S4R, had it in almost 2 years now.
There has been exceptions. Nakids S2R1000 has a PC3, and so does a few other guys here, but you really need to find someone talented enough to figure out a way to get it to work. Its not something you can drop in, upload a map, and go sailing.
Do you have a DPECU? a PCIII will work as a bolt on with a DPECU.
'06 S4R is open loop, so you can use a PCIII with it.
'06 S4Rs is closed loop.
Before you cut the airbox lid, pull it off, and tape the filter to the airbox.
Take it for a short ride, and see if you like the sound.
Hello All I'm Joi, Fredys wife:
Thanks for all the feedback it is very helpful and please keep it coming....
Thought I would add some information I just got from Kyle at Power Commander. He said they Do Not have a power commander that will work with the 2006 S4R...they are still waiting on a by pass for the O2 sensors. He went on the say if you get a kit ECU to eliminate the O2 Sensors then you can use the Power COmander III Part Number : 710-411.
So, Munch did you get a kit ECU? if not you must be lucky because even Power Commander says it should not work.... [clap] [thumbsup]
Just to clarify, is your bike an S4R, or an S4Rs?
Bike is 2006 S4R.
Quote from: Qwack on July 25, 2008, 03:48:34 PM
Bike is 2006 S4R.
Then it shouldn't have an O2 sensor, and thus it would be good to go with an S4 compatible PCIII.
Munch should be able to confirm the part#.
710-411 is the right part number. I just put it on my bike 2 weeks ago...very easy install (less than 30 minutes). I had no O2 sensors and it worked perfectly. Most places advertise it to 2005 S4R, but the 06 is the same. Ordered mine through Moto Wheels with my exhaust...great guys. Only one of the maps was close...didn't have time for a full dyno tune/map, so we got it as close as possible for the meantime.
Hey venomousr1993..you got my bike [laugh] just posted to you on the other thread I started regarding red/blk stripe S4R...what map did you use? not sure which pipes those are on your bike but they look really nice, bet they sound great too [thumbsup]
Also, where did you get stat that there are only 100 red/blk S4R
PIPES: QD stainless midpipes and Fresco Slip ons. The QD stuff is great quality and the Fresco sounds amazing...very loud though. The quality of the welds and the fit is less than great...I am very picky, but was not impressed with the quality at all!!!
As far as the MAP used, since I have the stock manifolds off the heads we used the European map for :
2003 Ducati Monster S4R European model
Arrow Half System, Catalyzer removed, stock header
Airbox lid removed
Stock or aftermarket air filter
we did some adjusting with the buttons in each rpm range to get as close as possible. The a/f is still not perfect, but the driveability is SOOOOO much better, especially at low rpms. Pulls very hard....can't keep the front wheel down at the top rpm of second ...1st..forget keeping the front wheel down(I weigh close to 220)
as far as stats of 100 here is your link
http://www.ducati.com/od/ducatinorthamerica/news/detail.jhtml?newsId=8821
Thanks again for the link :),
My husband has been thinking about the quad d...He is also think about a 2008 tri- colour, doesn't have the bike yet but is already thinking mods, Amazing [roll] , I know your reading this Fredy [popcorn]
Thanks for the mapping...will be great to get low end behaving better...I better hold on, I'll be thrown off [laugh]...check out the other link I will be updating as I get info...
and thanks again for all your input.
Thanks for the feedback guys. [thumbsup] Zards, PCIII, and K&N are on the way.
Need to sell my GSXR1000 so I can pick a Tricolore and 1 up my wife :-*
We'll try and get a dyno run done after mods are complete, yes we will share info.
[drink]
Fredy