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Title: Looking for new open faced spark plug
Post by: EEL on July 22, 2008, 09:12:59 AM
I dont know if you guys have seen the bosch platnium+2 or Platnium+4 spark plugs for cars. The side electrode is cut back (much like a side gapped standard spark plug). Is there anything like this for motorcycles? Not looking for anything expensive but trying to see in something like this exists. I tried side gapping a pair of spark plugs in the past but the bike seriously ran like crap, but honestly it might have been because me.

I'd rather find a plug thats already designed like this.

Any input would be appreciated.Otherwise I'll just buy a cheapo plug as I usually do and call it a day.
Title: Re: Looking for new open faced spark plug
Post by: Hedgehog on July 22, 2008, 09:40:06 AM
Quote from: EEL on July 22, 2008, 09:12:59 AM
I tried side gapping a pair of spark plugs in the past but the bike seriously ran like crap, but honestly it might have been because me.

It's a lot of effort finding the right plug within a series to make your bike work.  On the 900SS, someone discovered NGK DPR8EA-9 and I've always used that.  There's nothing wrong with stock plugs, and there's little to be gained by putting  the techno-glitzy plugs on.

If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
Title: Re: Looking for new open faced spark plug
Post by: Norm on July 23, 2008, 10:51:04 AM
You can side gap what you have, but you have to preserve the gap and I would't cut it too far back. If it fouls, either get a high output coil or close the gap a little. I've done a lot of different plug "tricks" and agree with Hedgehog, unless you're competing in drag racing, I've never noticed much difference either way.
Title: Re: Looking for new open faced spark plug
Post by: EEL on July 23, 2008, 01:49:25 PM
Any difference with the iridium's? Mind you this is just a question. I'm buying standard NGK's for 2.50 each
Title: Re: Looking for new open faced spark plug
Post by: clubhousemotorsports on July 23, 2008, 05:43:24 PM
some of the 4 valvers use a surface gap plug . I dont know if there is one sized for your aplication. they are $50.00 plugs anyway [roll]
Title: Re: Looking for new open faced spark plug
Post by: Norm on July 24, 2008, 08:52:37 AM
EEL - probably, but not enough that I worry about it.
ducvet - unless you have clearence problems, I'd save the $50.
Title: Re: Looking for new open faced spark plug
Post by: rockaduc on July 24, 2008, 02:50:27 PM
+1 on the least expensive plugs!!!!!
Title: Re: Looking for new open faced spark plug
Post by: clubhousemotorsports on July 24, 2008, 05:20:51 PM
In the case of the surface gap plugs I am guessing the factory decided there was not enough clearance.  Good not to have to worry about that. I have hi comp pistons now and my two valver lives on non projected reach "cheap" ngk's.
Title: Re: Looking for new open faced spark plug
Post by: LA on July 26, 2008, 07:37:43 AM
I've run a couple of sets of those NGK Irridiums and like em. I open the gap up a little extra.

LA
Title: Re: Looking for new open faced spark plug
Post by: Capo on July 26, 2008, 12:36:17 PM
The 1098R uses surface gap plugs, there isn't enough clearance for a standard profile plug
Title: Re: Looking for new open faced spark plug
Post by: clubhousemotorsports on July 26, 2008, 05:09:19 PM
749r as well.
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Title: Re: Looking for new open faced spark plug
Post by: geeka on August 09, 2008, 11:39:33 AM
Quote from: EEL on July 23, 2008, 01:49:25 PM
Any difference with the iridium's? Mind you this is just a question. I'm buying standard NGK's for 2.50 each
I have used the NGK iridiums since I bought my bike.  Since I am super lazy and prefer to play on my bike rather than work on it, the iridium's have a longer time between gapping and work great1 [moto]
Title: Re: Looking for new open faced spark plug
Post by: supertjeduc on August 09, 2008, 01:00:17 PM
I just replaced my 30000 km old iridiums for some fresh ones ,