FP1
MM chased by factory Yamahas with Jack first Ducati in 4th with Dovi 5th.
FP1
Pos. Num. Rider Nation Team Bike Km/h Time Gap 1st/Prev.
1 93 Marc MARQUEZ SPA Repsol Honda Team Honda 312.5 1'34.227
2 25 Maverick VIÃ'ALES SPA Movistar Yamaha MotoGP Yamaha 314.4 1'34.404 0.177 / 0.177
3 46 Valentino ROSSI ITA Movistar Yamaha MotoGP Yamaha 306.9 1'34.513 0.286 / 0.109
4 43 Jack MILLER AUS Alma Pramac Racing Ducati 307.6 1'34.548 0.321 / 0.035
5 4 Andrea DOVIZIOSO ITA Ducati Team Ducati 315.5 1'34.637 0.410 / 0.089
6 29 Andrea IANNONE ITA Team SUZUKI ECSTAR Suzuki 307.6 1'34.684 0.457 / 0.047
7 99 Jorge LORENZO SPA Ducati Team Ducati 311.0 1'34.811 0.584 / 0.127
8 21 Franco MORBIDELLI ITA EG 0,0 Marc VDS Honda 307.8 1'34.820 0.593 / 0.009
9 35 Cal CRUTCHLOW GBR LCR Honda CASTROL Honda 313.4 1'34.898 0.671 / 0.078
10 9 Danilo PETRUCCI ITA Alma Pramac Racing Ducati 310.8 1'35.037 0.810 / 0.139
11 19 Alvaro BAUTISTA SPA Angel Nieto Team Ducati 316.3 1'35.096 0.869 / 0.059
12 53 Tito RABAT SPA Reale Avintia Racing Ducati 306.9 1'35.102 0.875 / 0.006
13 5 Johann ZARCO FRA Monster Yamaha Tech 3 Yamaha 309.9 1'35.146 0.919 / 0.044
14 26 Dani PEDROSA SPA Repsol Honda Team Honda 311.5 1'35.182 0.955 / 0.036
15 42 Alex RINS SPA Team SUZUKI ECSTAR Suzuki 308.6 1'35.245 1.018 / 0.063
16 38 Bradley SMITH GBR Red Bull KTM Factory Racing KTM 307.5 1'35.271 1.044 / 0.026
17 41 Aleix ESPARGARO SPA Aprilia Racing Team Gresini Aprilia 307.6 1'35.289 1.062 / 0.018
18 44 Pol ESPARGARO SPA Red Bull KTM Factory Racing KTM 312.6 1'35.376 1.149 / 0.087
19 17 Karel ABRAHAM CZE Angel Nieto Team Ducati 310.8 1'35.669 1.442 / 0.293
20 55 Hafizh SYAHRIN MAL Monster Yamaha Tech 3 Yamaha 309.0 1'35.838 1.611 / 0.169
21 45 Scott REDDING GBR Aprilia Racing Team Gresini Aprilia 306.0 1'35.935 1.708 / 0.097
22 30 Takaaki NAKAGAMI JPN LCR Honda IDEMITSU Honda 307.2 1'35.955 1.728 / 0.020
23 12 Thomas LUTHI SWI EG 0,0 Marc VDS Honda 304.9 1'36.471 2.244 / 0.516
24 10 Xavier SIMEON BEL Reale Avintia Racing Ducati 307.2 1'36.955 2.728 / 0.484
FP2:
Pos. Num. Rider Nation Team Bike Km/h Time Gap 1st/Prev.
1 25 Maverick VIÃ'ALES SPA Movistar Yamaha MotoGP Yamaha 311.0 1'33.378
2 29 Andrea IANNONE ITA Team SUZUKI ECSTAR Suzuki 308.0 1'33.499 0.121 / 0.121
3 9 Danilo PETRUCCI ITA Alma Pramac Racing Ducati 312.8 1'33.764 0.386 / 0.265
4 46 Valentino ROSSI ITA Movistar Yamaha MotoGP Yamaha 309.7 1'33.779 0.401 / 0.015
5 35 Cal CRUTCHLOW GBR LCR Honda CASTROL Honda 311.6 1'33.812 0.434 / 0.033
6 4 Andrea DOVIZIOSO ITA Ducati Team Ducati 313.4 1'33.859 0.481 / 0.047
7 99 Jorge LORENZO SPA Ducati Team Ducati 313.4 1'33.870 0.492 / 0.011
8 93 Marc MARQUEZ SPA Repsol Honda Team Honda 313.3 1'34.041 0.663 / 0.171
9 42 Alex RINS SPA Team SUZUKI ECSTAR Suzuki 310.2 1'34.047 0.669 / 0.006
10 5 Johann ZARCO FRA Monster Yamaha Tech 3 Yamaha 309.7 1'34.133 0.755 / 0.086
11 26 Dani PEDROSA SPA Repsol Honda Team Honda 312.5 1'34.167 0.789 / 0.034
12 55 Hafizh SYAHRIN MAL Monster Yamaha Tech 3 Yamaha 309.9 1'34.246 0.868 / 0.079
13 41 Aleix ESPARGARO SPA Aprilia Racing Team Gresini Aprilia 312.1 1'34.318 0.940 / 0.072
14 19 Alvaro BAUTISTA SPA Angel Nieto Team Ducati 313.6 1'34.484 1.106 / 0.166
15 17 Karel ABRAHAM CZE Angel Nieto Team Ducati 311.5 1'34.522 1.144 / 0.038
16 43 Jack MILLER AUS Alma Pramac Racing Ducati 309.3 1'34.535 1.157 / 0.013
17 53 Tito RABAT SPA Reale Avintia Racing Ducati 308.3 1'34.576 1.198 / 0.041
18 38 Bradley SMITH GBR Red Bull KTM Factory Racing KTM 307.8 1'34.700 1.322 / 0.124
19 44 Pol ESPARGARO SPA Red Bull KTM Factory Racing KTM 312.1 1'34.822 1.444 / 0.122
20 30 Takaaki NAKAGAMI JPN LCR Honda IDEMITSU Honda 307.4 1'34.855 1.477 / 0.033
21 45 Scott REDDING GBR Aprilia Racing Team Gresini Aprilia 303.5 1'34.970 1.592 / 0.115
22 21 Franco MORBIDELLI ITA EG 0,0 Marc VDS Honda 308.3 1'35.287 1.909 / 0.317
23 12 Thomas LUTHI SWI EG 0,0 Marc VDS Honda 306.3 1'36.129 2.751 / 0.842
24 10 Xavier SIMEON BEL Reale Avintia Racing Ducati 309.1 1'36.157 2.779 / 0.028
MMs race pace is "disturbing".
I'm not disturbed at all here in my chair. 8)
I'm a champ here on my couch [laugh]
Wake up heroes 8)
FP 3
1 93 Marc MARQUEZ SPA Repsol Honda Team Honda 312.8 1'33.341
2 25 Maverick VIÃ'ALES SPA Movistar Yamaha MotoGP Yamaha 312.8 1'33.342 0.001 / 0.001
3 35 Cal CRUTCHLOW GBR LCR Honda CASTROL Honda 312.5 1'33.347 0.006 / 0.005
4 46 Valentino ROSSI ITA Movistar Yamaha MotoGP Yamaha 307.7 1'33.388 0.047 / 0.041
5 29 Andrea IANNONE ITA Team SUZUKI ECSTAR Suzuki 312.4 1'33.403 0.062 / 0.015
6 99 Jorge LORENZO SPA Ducati Team Ducati 312.6 1'33.787 0.446 / 0.384
7 41 Aleix ESPARGARO SPA Aprilia Racing Team Gresini Aprilia 309.4 1'33.825 0.484 / 0.038
8 19 Alvaro BAUTISTA SPA Angel Nieto Team Ducati 310.3 1'33.848 0.507 / 0.023
9 4 Andrea DOVIZIOSO ITA Ducati Team Ducati 314.0 1'33.872 0.531 / 0.024
10 44 Pol ESPARGARO SPA Red Bull KTM Factory Racing KTM 313.2 1'33.915 0.574 / 0.043
11 5 Johann ZARCO FRA Monster Yamaha Tech 3 Yamaha 309.8 1'33.939 0.598 / 0.024
12 43 Jack MILLER AUS Alma Pramac Racing Ducati 311.3 1'33.968 0.627 / 0.029
13 9 Danilo PETRUCCI ITA Alma Pramac Racing Ducati 312.4 1'33.986 0.645 / 0.018
14 26 Dani PEDROSA SPA Repsol Honda Team Honda 313.3 1'34.073 0.732 / 0.087
15 53 Tito RABAT SPA Reale Avintia Racing Ducati 308.7 1'34.151 0.810 / 0.078
16 42 Alex RINS SPA Team SUZUKI ECSTAR Suzuki 309.4 1'34.202 0.861 / 0.051
17 38 Bradley SMITH GBR Red Bull KTM Factory Racing KTM 308.6 1'34.624 1.283 / 0.422
18 45 Scott REDDING GBR Aprilia Racing Team Gresini Aprilia 308.3 1'34.637 1.296 / 0.013
19 30 Takaaki NAKAGAMI JPN LCR Honda IDEMITSU Honda 308.1 1'34.722 1.381 / 0.085
20 21 Franco MORBIDELLI ITA EG 0,0 Marc VDS Honda 307.0 1'34.988 1.647 / 0.266
21 17 Karel ABRAHAM CZE Angel Nieto Team Ducati 309.3 1'35.215 1.874 / 0.227
22 55 Hafizh SYAHRIN MAL Monster Yamaha Tech 3 Yamaha 306.0 1'35.576 2.235 / 0.361
23 12 Thomas LUTHI SWI EG 0,0 Marc VDS Honda 305.1 1'35.828 2.487 / 0.252
24 10 Xavier SIMEON BEL Reale Avintia Racing Ducati 307.1 1'35.927 2.586 / 0.099
C'mon Jack, sneak in there bro.
Bugger :P
Q1...Assen, Saturday, June 30, 2018
Pos. Num. Rider Nation Team Bike Km/h Time Gap 1st/Prev.
1 5 Johann ZARCO FRA Monster Yamaha Tech 3 Yamaha 309.5 1'33.578
2 42 Alex RINS SPA Team SUZUKI ECSTAR Suzuki 308.3 1'33.600 0.022 / 0.022
3 30 Takaaki NAKAGAMI JPN LCR Honda IDEMITSU Honda 307.6 1'33.625 0.047 / 0.025
4 53 Tito RABAT SPA Reale Avintia Racing Ducati 308.6 1'33.666 0.088 / 0.041
5 55 Hafizh SYAHRIN MAL Monster Yamaha Tech 3 Yamaha 308.8 1'33.666 0.088
6 43 Jack MILLER AUS Alma Pramac Racing Ducati 310.6 1'33.672 0.094 / 0.006
7 45 Scott REDDING GBR Aprilia Racing Team Gresini Aprilia 310.3 1'33.995 0.417 / 0.323
8 26 Dani PEDROSA SPA Repsol Honda Team Honda 313.3 1'34.125 0.547 / 0.130
9 17 Karel ABRAHAM CZE Angel Nieto Team Ducati 309.8 1'34.145 0.567 / 0.020
10 38 Bradley SMITH GBR Red Bull KTM Factory Racing KTM 308.6 1'34.149 0.571 / 0.004
11 44 Pol ESPARGARO SPA Red Bull KTM Factory Racing KTM 314.0 1'34.268 0.690 / 0.119
12 12 Thomas LUTHI SWI EG 0,0 Marc VDS Honda 306.6 1'35.192 1.614 / 0.924
13 10 Xavier SIMEON BEL Reale Avintia Racing Ducati 307.6 1'35.646 2.068 / 0.454
21 Franco MORBIDELLI ITA EG 0,0 Marc VDS Honda
Q2...Assen, Saturday, June 30, 2018
Pos. Num. Rider Nation Team Bike Km/h Time Gap 1st/Prev.
1 93 Marc MARQUEZ SPA Repsol Honda Team Honda 313.6 1'32.791
2 35 Cal CRUTCHLOW GBR LCR Honda CASTROL Honda 314.9 1'32.832 0.041 / 0.041
3 46 Valentino ROSSI ITA Movistar Yamaha MotoGP Yamaha 309.1 1'32.850 0.059 / 0.018
4 4 Andrea DOVIZIOSO ITA Ducati Team Ducati 315.5 1'32.870 0.079 / 0.020
5 42 Alex RINS SPA Team SUZUKI ECSTAR Suzuki 311.8 1'32.933 0.142 / 0.063
6 25 Maverick VIÃ'ALES SPA Movistar Yamaha MotoGP Yamaha 314.1 1'32.984 0.193 / 0.051
7 41 Aleix ESPARGARO SPA Aprilia Racing Team Gresini Aprilia 311.5 1'33.029 0.238 / 0.045
8 5 Johann ZARCO FRA Monster Yamaha Tech 3 Yamaha 309.1 1'33.072 0.281 / 0.043
9 29 Andrea IANNONE ITA Team SUZUKI ECSTAR Suzuki 309.3 1'33.120 0.329 / 0.048
10 99 Jorge LORENZO SPA Ducati Team Ducati 313.0 1'33.167 0.376 / 0.047
11 9 Danilo PETRUCCI ITA Alma Pramac Racing Ducati 311.5 1'33.292 0.501 / 0.125
12 19 Alvaro BAUTISTA SPA Angel Nieto Team Ducati 311.8 1'34.015 1.224 / 0.723
Morbidelli out with a broken bone in his right hand.
Didn't see a full video of Morbidelli's crash, but I suspect it was like Jack's weird crash, bike getting out of shape and heading off track and forcing an abandon ship maneuver.
Q2 was spectacular!
It sure was. [Dolph]
https://youtu.be/4n9YIUgUMYo
Cracker of a race.
Wow, best race of the year so far. 24 action packed laps of 26.
Now that was a race!
Indeed [bow_down]
Even the lay 2 laps that were tame by comparison, still had some aggressive passing. It was awesome!
:o :o :o Don’t pack the haulers. Let’s just race here for the rest of the season. 10th to 1st right out of the gate for Lorenzo, soft front couldn’t hang. Rossi and Jorge made simultaneous saves. [bow_down] MM made yet another ridiculous save. Dovi and the Golden Boy had a moment. [evil] My boy had a great race. [clap] [clap] Rins was mixing it up with the big boys. [evil]
http://www.motogp.com/en/news/2018/07/01/the-magnificent-seven-react-to-an-unforgettable-dutch-gp/264377
It was a cracker
The Moto3 race was good too. Several contenders crashing out at the end.
Moto2...kind of a snoozer with Bagnaia leading from start to finish.
The lead pack was lucky that Rossi and JLo didn't go down, that would have been horrendous.
Vinales found his Mojo, hopefully he can keep tabs on it for a few races.
Jlo smoked off the front tire (?).
Rins gettin' after it, good to see more different riders on the podium.
For some reason Rossi got into a braking duel with Dovi, rather than let him go past/undercut/race him for the next corner.
I think MM just hung out to swap paint for a while, then took off.
Quote from: Speeddog on July 01, 2018, 11:13:47 PM
I think MM just hung out to swap paint for a while, then took off.
[laugh] [laugh]
At the press conf MM explained that his preferred fast line are more sweeping in Assens, but he needed a gap to really use them. Basically every time he tried to use them someone would dive inside.
HO-LY SHIT!!!!
That was incredible. I'm going to watch it again.
Mark
The perfect visual summation of that RACE!
(https://i2.wp.com/www.asphaltandrubber.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/race-dutch-tt-assen-motogp.jpg?ssl=1)
You can barely see Rossi on that photo and he was up there the whole time. I think he would have managed 2nd place if he could have just dove on the inside after letting Dovi go into turn 1 too hot.
Quote from: duccarlos on July 02, 2018, 09:42:32 AM
You can barely see Rossi on that photo and he was up there the whole time. I think he would have managed 2nd place if he could have just dove on the inside after letting Dovi go into turn 1 too hot.
Very likely.
Dovi said they each released the brakes twice trying to get the upper hand. [laugh]
Ballsy stuff.
Quote from: Speeddog on July 02, 2018, 09:54:18 AM
Very likely.
Dovi said they each released the brakes twice trying to get the upper hand. [laugh]
They had the res mist. I was also really surprised that Rossi couldn't pull off the same move he did like 20 times previously on the last lap. I assume that all of the 6 guys around him had been a victim of that move and figured out how to block it.
The early tangle between Rossi and Lorenzo woke me up quick. No idea how either kept it upright.
I think you're right, those he burned got wise.
The onboard from JLo's bike was awesome.
"Oh, look, Rossi's gaining a bit. OH SHIT, GAINING WAY TOO MUCH! BANG!"
Did anyone see any explanation of what happened with Morbidelli's practice crash?
Nothing.
Rossi's whinging about Dovi's pass. [roll]
Quote from: duccarlos on July 02, 2018, 09:42:32 AM
You can barely see Rossi on that photo and he was up there the whole time. I think he would have managed 2nd place if he could have just dove on the inside after letting Dovi go into turn 1 too hot.
All you see of Cal is a front tire.
I read that. ;D
I was going to post a picture of the world's smallest violin playing just for him, but it's too small to see. :P
Notice the fully squashed front suspension of MM in that photo, nobody else even close to compressed that far.
He's half off the bike as well.
Normal service.
Quote from: Speeddog on July 02, 2018, 10:42:52 AM
I think you're right, those he burned got wise.
The onboard from JLo's bike was awesome.
"Oh, look, Rossi's gaining a bit. OH SHIT, GAINING WAY TOO MUCH! BANG!"
Did anyone see any explanation of what happened with Morbidelli's practice crash?
Simon Crafar asked someone from the team. IIRC he said Franco got out on the grass on the exit of the previous corner, or something like that.
Quote from: Speeddog on July 02, 2018, 03:02:39 PM
Notice the fully squashed front suspension of MM in that photo, nobody else even close to compressed that far.
He's half off the bike as well.
Normal service.
He was trying to go ‘round the outside’ on that turn and went way deep before throwing out the anchor. [evil] There was several really good outside passes in the first part of the race.
Quote from: ducpainter on July 02, 2018, 03:08:50 PM
Simon Crafar asked someone from the team. IIRC he said Franco got out on the grass on the exit of the previous corner, or something like that.
Ah, that makes some sense, somewhat like Jack's bullet dodging awhile back.
Quote from: kopfjäger on July 02, 2018, 03:20:03 PM
He was trying to go ‘round the outside’ on that turn and went way deep before throwing out the anchor. [evil] There was several really good outside passes in the first part of the race.
Mav had a really good one going. [Dolph]
Rewatching the start and lap1. Lorenzo in 10th as the lights get ready to go out is tucked down like he means bidness. He was shot out of a cannon around the outside and down into 2nd by turn 1. Impressive to say the least. Oh and his pass on MM for the lead was textbook.
Lorenzo flew down to turn 1. If he could ride like that when conditions are not perfect and/or be less than a total prick, I might be a fan.
Quote from: duccarlos on July 02, 2018, 05:13:07 PM
Lorenzo flew down to turn 1. If he could ride like that when conditions are not perfect and/or be less than a total prick, I might be a fan.
Personally, I'd like to see what Marc could do with a Duc.
The guy seems to be able to ride around...anything.
It’d be interesting to see, but......naga naga nagonna happen anytime soon.
I realize that.
Still... ;)
Oh, I’m with ya. I’d love to see him wrangling the Duc.
He would have actually been worth the 12 million â,¬.
Don't get me wrong, I'm happy with JLs wins, it's just that Marky would have done at least that in his first year and challenged or won the championship the next.
+1 for MM on a Ducati, but he’s safely cradled in Honda world.
Maybe in half a dozen years.
https://www.motorsport.com/motogp/news/dovizioso-ducati-tyre-issues-assen-1055498/
It looked like it too. Turning the throttle and going nowhere.
Quote from: kopfjäger on July 03, 2018, 06:26:32 PM
https://www.motorsport.com/motogp/news/dovizioso-ducati-tyre-issues-assen-1055498/
Why is this a silly season issue?
Quote from: ducpainter on July 03, 2018, 06:38:13 PM
Why is this a silly season issue?
I got confused. My finger was going back and forth. ‘Not really news’ ‘Maybe the race thread’
DO SOMETHING! Ok I’ll try here. Wrong guess, I guess. Where ya want it?
Quote from: kopfjäger on July 02, 2018, 06:36:24 PM
Oh, I’m with ya. I’d love to see him wrangling the Duc.
[popcorn] I'd pay additional money to see that. [popcorn]
I do wonder if that's just how the Honda is ridden fastest, perhaps he'd be less spectacular on other bikes.
What would Marquez be like on a Yamaha?
Big swooping Lorenzo lines with his elbow on the ground 90% of the time he's not in pit lane?
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I think MM got his elbow slider caught in Rins' rear brake disc.
Quote from: Speeddog on July 03, 2018, 08:03:12 PM
[popcorn] I'd pay additional money to see that. [popcorn]
I do wonder if that's just how the Honda is ridden fastest, perhaps he'd be less spectacular on other bikes.
What would Marquez be like on a Yamaha?
Big swooping Lorenzo lines with his elbow on the ground 90% of the time he's not in pit lane?
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I think MM got his elbow slider caught in Rins' rear brake disc.
Ummm...fast? ;D
MM only knows fast. Crusty has been the only other rider that has consisted decent results. The fact MM can wrestle that thing around the track week in and out makes me think he can be fast on anything.
How is it that MM abuses his tires and is so strong at the end. The following riders complain about the tires not lasting the last few laps. MM wins with soft, medium and hard compounds.
I'm happy for Vinales and Rins. hope they can continue finishing up front.
Remember that article on spinning Vs grip heating of rear tyres? The rear wheel steering guys superheated the top layer of the tyre but the guys that got the tyre to bite heated the whole carcass. I wonder if that still applies? Also, is it me or does Marky use more lean angle but for a shorter time like Doohan? His freaky kinesthetic perception lets him ride closer to the edge more often and saving a slide is a regular thing for him. Marky has the touch of Stoner, the joy of Rossi and the mental strength and toughness of Doohan.
Quote from: koko64 on July 04, 2018, 04:07:40 PM
Remember that article on spinning Vs grip heating of rear tyres? The rear wheel steering guys superheated the top layer of the tyre but the guys that got the tyre to bite heated the whole carcass. I wonder if that still applies? Also, is it me or does Marky use more lean angle but for a shorter time like Doohan? His freaky kinesthetic perception lets him ride closer to the edge more often and saving a slide is a regular thing for him. Marky has the touch of Stoner, the joy of Rossi and the mental strength and toughness of Doohan.
Was that Rainey that figured that out?
I can't remember if it was him or even King Kenny. I bet Rainey was one of the first riders to really understand what was happening. Is Marky doing this more than the others? One things for sure, he uses shredded tyres better than the rest. I reckon he's very very strong for his size and doesn't weaken over a race distance. So if spinning saves the rear tyre how does he save the front? Do you notice too that he passes on the power diving up the inside more than out braking ? Even if he passes on the brakes he really catches them on the drive. He's passing on the gas on corner entry so maybe that's how he saves the front tyre. Pure conjecture of course as I have no idea what he's doing! [laugh]
The stuff I've read on the Michelins is that the soft/medium/hard naming doesn't necessarily mean only the rubber that touches the track.
They can have a medium and a hard that use the same rubber on the track, but have different carcass stiffness.
From the rider and bike setup side, I think that sort of thing would really suck.
One of the Espargaros said the classical 'soft tire for cold track' 'medium tire for moderate track' 'hard tire for hot track' isn't necessarily the case with the Michelins.
He said some tracks get really greasy when they're hot, and they don't give enough grip to get a 'hard' tire up to operating temp, so they have to drop back to a medium or even soft.
Re: tire spinning, I remember Lawson saying that powering up off the apex he'd see he was going to run wide, so he'd open the throttle more.
Someone (Rins?) said a while back while following MM for a big slice of a race, he noticed MM changing his style slightly at some point because of the tires going off, but it was prior to the tires going off, rather than after.
I remember the 'just getting the top layer hot' was the explanation that was developed to explain how McCoy was able to spin the tires so hard and not overheat them.
I've seen oval track Midgets consistently haze the outside rear tire in the corners on big asphalt tracks, but they can only do it for ~4 laps or so.
When Nicky first went out on the Pirelli-shod SBK Firenail, he came back in after just a few laps, asking why they sent him out on underinflated tires.
The Pirelli's carcasses were so squishy compared to the rock hard Bridgestones he was used to.
That's right, Michelin are playing with carcass structure. It must be driving the team engineers nuts and undermining rider confidence. Doesn't seem to worry Marky too much.
I think this carrying over to sport street tyres. They're folding the ply over on the side wall. Metzler stated doing this awhile back too with one compound but different carcass strength. I think the Michelin Pilot Power 3 is being faded out for the Power RS.
https://youtu.be/j91yWTXpfug
https://youtu.be/PXhps7Eozwk