FP1:
Pos. Num. Rider Nation Team Bike Km/h Time Gap 1st/Prev.
1 25 Maverick VIÃ'ALES SPA Movistar Yamaha MotoGP Yamaha 322.4 2'02.073
2 46 Valentino ROSSI ITA Movistar Yamaha MotoGP Yamaha 316.6 2'02.262 0.189 / 0.189
3 4 Andrea DOVIZIOSO ITA Ducati Team Ducati 325.6 2'02.263 0.190 / 0.001
4 35 Cal CRUTCHLOW GBR LCR Honda CASTROL Honda 325.4 2'02.401 0.328 / 0.138
5 43 Jack MILLER AUS Alma Pramac Racing Ducati 317.2 2'02.973 0.900 / 0.572
6 99 Jorge LORENZO SPA Ducati Team Ducati 323.2 2'03.115 1.042 / 0.142
7 53 Tito RABAT SPA Reale Avintia Racing Ducati 321.6 2'03.136 1.063 / 0.021
8 29 Andrea IANNONE ITA Team SUZUKI ECSTAR Suzuki 317.1 2'03.207 1.134 / 0.071
9 5 Johann ZARCO FRA Monster Yamaha Tech 3 Yamaha 316.9 2'03.243 1.170 / 0.036
10 93 Marc MARQUEZ SPA Repsol Honda Team Honda 320.2 2'03.699 1.626 / 0.456
11 19 Alvaro BAUTISTA SPA Angel Nieto Team Ducati 317.4 2'03.886 1.813 / 0.187
12 38 Bradley SMITH GBR Red Bull KTM Factory Racing KTM 316.4 2'04.013 1.940 / 0.127
13 41 Aleix ESPARGARO SPA Aprilia Racing Team Gresini Aprilia 320.1 2'04.105 2.032 / 0.092
14 30 Takaaki NAKAGAMI JPN LCR Honda IDEMITSU Honda 312.0 2'04.112 2.039 / 0.007
15 9 Danilo PETRUCCI ITA Alma Pramac Racing Ducati 321.6 2'04.170 2.097 / 0.058
16 42 Alex RINS SPA Team SUZUKI ECSTAR Suzuki 316.9 2'04.567 2.494 / 0.397
17 26 Dani PEDROSA SPA Repsol Honda Team Honda 319.3 2'04.601 2.528 / 0.034
18 45 Scott REDDING GBR Aprilia Racing Team Gresini Aprilia 312.5 2'04.966 2.893 / 0.365
19 12 Thomas LUTHI SWI EG 0,0 Marc VDS Honda 314.2 2'05.013 2.940 / 0.047
20 21 Franco MORBIDELLI ITA EG 0,0 Marc VDS Honda 315.0 2'05.146 3.073 / 0.133
21 17 Karel ABRAHAM CZE Angel Nieto Team Ducati 318.6 2'05.389 3.316 / 0.243
22 55 Hafizh SYAHRIN MAL Monster Yamaha Tech 3 Yamaha 313.7 2'05.448 3.375 / 0.059
23 10 Xavier SIMEON BEL Reale Avintia Racing Ducati 315.3 2'06.214 4.141 / 0.766
24 76 Loris BAZ FRA Red Bull KTM Factory Racing KTM 310.2 2'06.731 4.658 / 0.517
Good to see MV at the top of the time sheets again.
FP2:
Pos. Num. Rider Nation Team Bike Km/h Time Gap 1st/Prev.
1 4 Andrea DOVIZIOSO ITA Ducati Team Ducati 324.7 2'01.385
2 35 Cal CRUTCHLOW GBR LCR Honda CASTROL Honda 323.8 2'01.390 0.005 / 0.005
3 25 Maverick VIÃ'ALES SPA Movistar Yamaha MotoGP Yamaha 323.0 2'01.446 0.061 / 0.056
4 93 Marc MARQUEZ SPA Repsol Honda Team Honda 322.3 2'01.529 0.144 / 0.083
5 99 Jorge LORENZO SPA Ducati Team Ducati 323.9 2'01.782 0.397 / 0.253
6 43 Jack MILLER AUS Alma Pramac Racing Ducati 317.3 2'01.819 0.434 / 0.037
7 5 Johann ZARCO FRA Monster Yamaha Tech 3 Yamaha 316.9 2'01.962 0.577 / 0.143
8 46 Valentino ROSSI ITA Movistar Yamaha MotoGP Yamaha 315.1 2'02.152 0.767 / 0.190
9 29 Andrea IANNONE ITA Team SUZUKI ECSTAR Suzuki 319.6 2'02.231 0.846 / 0.079
10 19 Alvaro BAUTISTA SPA Angel Nieto Team Ducati 321.1 2'02.448 1.063 / 0.217
11 30 Takaaki NAKAGAMI JPN LCR Honda IDEMITSU Honda 315.0 2'02.515 1.130 / 0.067
12 9 Danilo PETRUCCI ITA Alma Pramac Racing Ducati 324.6 2'02.616 1.231 / 0.101
13 53 Tito RABAT SPA Reale Avintia Racing Ducati 321.8 2'02.704 1.319 / 0.088
14 21 Franco MORBIDELLI ITA EG 0,0 Marc VDS Honda 315.0 2'02.759 1.374 / 0.055
15 26 Dani PEDROSA SPA Repsol Honda Team Honda 319.8 2'02.864 1.479 / 0.105
16 41 Aleix ESPARGARO SPA Aprilia Racing Team Gresini Aprilia 315.7 2'02.938 1.553 / 0.074
17 38 Bradley SMITH GBR Red Bull KTM Factory Racing KTM 317.4 2'02.974 1.589 / 0.036
18 55 Hafizh SYAHRIN MAL Monster Yamaha Tech 3 Yamaha 316.9 2'03.293 1.908 / 0.319
19 42 Alex RINS SPA Team SUZUKI ECSTAR Suzuki 316.7 2'03.591 2.206 / 0.298
20 45 Scott REDDING GBR Aprilia Racing Team Gresini Aprilia 314.6 2'03.810 2.425 / 0.219
21 12 Thomas LUTHI SWI EG 0,0 Marc VDS Honda 312.2 2'04.178 2.793 / 0.368
22 17 Karel ABRAHAM CZE Angel Nieto Team Ducati 319.3 2'04.223 2.838 / 0.045
23 76 Loris BAZ FRA Red Bull KTM Factory Racing KTM 310.1 2'04.773 3.388 / 0.550
24 10 Xavier SIMEON BEL Reale Avintia Racing Ducati 315.5 2'05.212 3.827 / 0.439
But better than seeing MV is to see Dovi up there!
Also good to see Jack in the top 10. He hasn't had the best luck the past few rounds.
[thumbsup]
https://youtu.be/kIUwyEwMLyI
It is very bumpy, slo-mo footage is really making that clear.
Evidently the repaving job has left a bit to be desired, something like the grip and bumps are same as before.
MM is using his knee sliders in new and exciting ways, looks like he needs a complete rethink on those parts.
Crazy conditions in FP4. Tito is still down in the gravel pit.
Looked like he got hit by Morbidelli's bike while he was on his feet after his own crash.
It was Rins hitting the water and jumping off.
4 down and red flagged.
Sounds as if Tito has a broken leg among other injuries. He was airlifted to the local hospital.
Wet, dry, rain, sun. Q2 is crazy.
“MM is a serial risk takerâ€
That was pretty awesome! [popcorn]
Lorenzo
Dovisioso
Zarco
Multiple leg fractures.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/motorsport/7100838/motogp-rider-tito-rabat-airlifted-to-hospital-after-horror-smash/
Tito has Pedrosa’s luck.
Ducati is the best bike on the grid hands down. The unibrow is truly magical.
Quote from: kopfjäger on August 25, 2018, 10:53:10 AM
Multiple leg fractures.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/motorsport/7100838/motogp-rider-tito-rabat-airlifted-to-hospital-after-horror-smash/
Morbidelli’s bike basically threw Tito about 5 feet. That was scary to watch. You can see Rins just frantically wave at the riders. The marshals should be allowed to red flag the session when you have a situation like 5 riders going into the dirt in a single lap.
Schedule has been changed. MotoGP will be the first race.
https://youtu.be/k72p_6ybFMo
https://youtu.be/-86oGZKBPGs
http://www.motogp.com/en/video_update/2018/08/25/free-video-the-thrilling-last-3-minutes-of-q2/269670
Very wet!
Reminds me of Phillip Island!
Pace car driver hanging out the rear!
Teams watching the safety car drifting 8)
Delayed. No further info
TV coverage ceased here. I guess it got washed out.
They’re gonna try and start at 1630 local.
They just made the official call. No race.
Maybe I'm just an ignorant Yankee keyboard masher who's never been to England*, but I've been thinking.
Silverstone has been a racetrack for 70 years.
It's in England.
From what I hear, it rains a lot in England.
Why has the drainage on the track not been sorted out in all that time.
I mean make the beast with two backsing really now.
*UK, Britain, I'm not sure.
They’re gonna get crushed for it. Apparently the ‘new’ surface didn’t help matters.
Race Direction had a conference and they explicitly said that they have raced in similar conditions in years past. They did put the blame on the resurfacing and the standing water in key areas
Wild assed guess here, but it seems that the company that paved the track didn't put any crown to the surface. A completely flat, or dished surface won't drain.
It's been raining there...forever.
My understanding is that Silverstone has never had any banking at all. The previous surface probably allowed for a ton of drainage, but the new surface is not as porous. I’m in no way an expert
Quote from: duccarlos on August 26, 2018, 11:00:05 AM
My understanding is that Silverstone has never had any banking at all. The previous surface probably allowed for a ton of drainage, but the new surface is not as porous. I’m in no way an expert
Banking and crown are two completely different things. Water can't drain from a completely flat surface.
Unless it’s the top of my head.
Quote from: ducpainter on August 26, 2018, 11:38:38 AM
Banking and crown are two completely different things. Water can't drain from a completely flat surface.
But with banking, wouldn’t the water flow down towards the gravel?
Tito had femur, tib and fib breaks of his right leg. Surgery went well.
Lots of chatter about the racetrack conditions on the MotoGP website.
Quote from: duccarlos on August 26, 2018, 12:00:10 PM
But with banking, wouldn’t the water flow down towards the gravel?
If a corner is banked, or has camber, it should. The water is also pooling on the straights. That's what caused the disaster with Tito. You don't bank, or camber, a straight. You give the surface crown which means the center is higher than the edges. Not significantly, but enough to drain.
Tito up and walking already. Woodpecker lips.
https://sport.sky.it/motogp/2018/08/26/motogp-gp-silverstone-2018-infortunio-rabat-foto.html?social=twitter_skysportmotogp_link_null
and why don't they have those jet dryers like they do in NASCAR ? with that much rain when is does stop to dry push the water that is laying
We can probably remember worse conditions in regards to rainfall on tracks with better drainage. Its a shame as Ducati was looking good. Biaggi said as much.
No race, so I’m gonna watch some holeshot videos. [evil] Oh, as usual headphones are your friend. 🎧
https://youtu.be/1SJ_gMZ-VBk
Quote from: ute on August 26, 2018, 03:21:10 PM
and why don't they have those jet dryers like they do in NASCAR ? with that much rain when is does stop to dry push the water that is laying
Not sure about Silverstone, but they tried to use them to clear water at the first Indy MotoGP that was black flagged due to rain. They only have the ability to move so much water, they become useless when the rain is really coming down and pooling.
Quote from: ducpainter on August 26, 2018, 09:41:12 AM
Wild assed guess here, but it seems that the company that paved the track didn't put any crown to the surface. A completely flat, or dished surface won't drain.
It's been raining there...forever.
Sometime during the repaving, the track owner/manager must have been involved in observing/approving the work and/or paying the bill....one would imagine? [coffee]
I recall Hurrincane Ike and the 2008 Indy MotoGP race, the one where Rossi merrily circled the circuit during the deluge while the rest of the field crashed out - and all the complaints about the repaving job there, too. Maybe the bosses were panicking over that flashback (or else MM can't ride in the rain very well [evil]).
Wondering aloud whether all the electronic gizmos on 'modern' bikes make racing in very wet conditions 'impossible'...i.e., no 'digital maps' to handle changed/unexpected track conditions from point to point, such as hitting a wet spot coming out of a dry turn when the engine is spinning up and the controls are not expecting a slippery surface. Does anyone know if the electronics are ever 'recoded' during wet racing?
They have wet setups, but Indy were 800cc bikes with a considerable amount less electronic aids. I guess it evens out at the end since the 1000cc power would be tamed. I was there during the hurricane GP and I can honestly say that it was stupid to allow them to ride in that.
Quote from: OT on August 27, 2018, 07:28:37 AM
Sometime during the repaving, the track owner/manager must have been involved in observing/approving the work and/or paying the bill....one would imagine? [coffee]
I recall Hurrincane Ike and the 2008 Indy MotoGP race, the one where Rossi merrily circled the circuit during the deluge while the rest of the field crashed out - and all the complaints about the repaving job there, too. Maybe the bosses were panicking over that flashback (or else MM can't ride in the rain very well [evil]).
Wondering aloud whether all the electronic gizmos on 'modern' bikes make racing in very wet conditions 'impossible'...i.e., no 'digital maps' to handle changed/unexpected track conditions from point to point, such as hitting a wet spot coming out of a dry turn when the engine is spinning up and the controls are not expecting a slippery surface. Does anyone know if the electronics are ever 'recoded' during wet racing?
You can't necessarily see the crown in a road surface, and after seeing the announcement from the facility GM on MotoGp.com apologizing for the cancellation, I don't believe the guy would know what to look for. He's a numbers/PR guy...not the civil engineer type.
The bikes have sensors to detect wheelspin. That will modify the engine performance, but there's only so much electronics can do. they won't stop a cold tire crash for example.
The problem at Silverstone was standing water on the straights causing hydroplaning. There was too much water for the tires to contact the surface.
Back in the day, they even raced past a dead rider.
https://youtu.be/9iZY75B2JRM
Lotsa things used to be.
Didn't make it right.
Quote from: ducpainter on August 27, 2018, 05:15:39 PM
Lotsa things used to be.
Didn't make it right.
Almost positive, wait let me think. Yeah, positive I didn’t say that.
They were sure slack on the red flag. More crashes due to the debris or avoiding the downed rider was a critical risk. Pre OH&S era. We're learning all the time.
Quote from: kopfjäger on August 27, 2018, 06:10:46 PM
Almost positive, wait let me think. Yeah, positive I didn’t say that.
...and I'm positive I didn't say you did.
https://www.crash.net/motogp/news/904341/1/silverstone-circuit-surface-changed-march-july
https://www.crash.net/motogp/news/904347/1/ducati-questions-rider-meeting-communication
http://www.motogp.com/en/news/2018/08/28/gopro-british-gp-cancellation-a-message-for-fans/269944?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=Email&utm_content=GBR_AMessageForFans_en&utm_campaign=Traffic
So my wife and I were in Scotland for 2 weeks and the Silverstone race was right in the middle of our planned time there. We kicked around heading down for the race but decided not to as it was not part of our original plan. Obviously looking back now we are glad we didn't do that. She would never have forgiven me if I'd have pushed to go only to get to see nothing!
Mark
Sounds like you dodged a stormy bullet right there!
Thumbs up!