saved my post from TOB,, seeing too many questions lately..
Why get Clip ons?Quote from: unknown
Originally Posted by tufty
I switched to clip-ons (Tomasellis), so i could keep more weight over the front end when riding on the track. Due to reduced
leverage steering inputs need to be a little more positive, BUT, if you do a lot of track time/road racing they are definitely the way
to go....oh and the bike looks the dog's bollocks!!
Quote from: unknown
Originally Posted by mysta2
for me (being just over 6 feet) the new bars are a lot more natural feeling than the stock ones, I'm less crouched, and can lean down on the tank more naturally. I didn't notice much of a handling difference, just comfort.
How hard are they to install?
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Originally Posted by Spinned
It depends on what type of clip-on you install. Is it under the triple or over? If it is under then you have to drop the forks. Not a big deal, but when I did it I took off the headlight light and bracket and blinkers and stuff too. After I got the brackets off, I painted them black.
Cycle Cat and LSL have a slight rise to the handlebar (1-2 inches). Others like the Vortex clip-on do not have any rise, but you will be leaning forward like a 1098. Make a template where the holes are on your handlebars and then use that to drill new holes in the clip-on bars. With a bunch of fiddlin' around, it will likely take you half a day or more.
Quote from: unknown
Originally Posted by Kui
you dont need to drop the forks, you can just remove the top triple slide em on, and slide the triple back on. Abiet you do need to have a variety of hexs, some hexes may not work. and ou may need to grind down a spare set of hexes. I personally run tomassellis, they are adjustable.
Quote from: unknown
Originally Posted by Spinned
Undoing the top triple means that you will have to re-adjust the steering nut and bearings. Dropping the front forks was pretty simple... six nuts and down she comes. Of course you have to figure out a way to jack up the bike so you can drop the forks.
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Originally Posted by Syd-Monster
This thread I wrote recently talks about upper & lower triple removal. It gives you a good idea as to how this might have to happen. Ignore the parts about removing the lower triple/wheel/forks etc.
http://www.ducatimonster.org/smf/ind...?topic=98737.0
Hope that helps. - Chris
Quote from: unknown
Originally Posted by ducpainter
FWIW when I installed mine I decided to upgrade to stainless lines and opted for SBK lengths. They work great. My throttle cables were a challenge. I ended up turning the throttle over so the cables are on top in order to get smooth operation. I have coffin style reservoirs so I now only have one mirror.
Quote from: unknown
Originally Posted by derby
assemble the clip-ons and bars before you mount them on the bike and it'll save some time. i mounted a set for a buddy in a little over an hour.
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Originally Posted by Spinned
I asked in the Tech section if you can remove the top triple of an S2R1000 without adjusting the steering bearing and I was told you can. The top triple will come off by removing the three pinch bolts. The thingy with all of the holes in it is the steering ring nut. That should stay in place without adjusting the bearing. Here is the thread and a drawing.
http://www.ducatimonster.org/smf/ind...topic=100385.0
Quote from: unknown
Originally Posted by printman
Correct, the top triple is not torqueing the steering head bearings, there should be a spanner or some other form of nut used to tighten the steering head bearings underneath the top triple.
How do I remove the Top Triple?Quote from: unknown
Originally Posted by junkart
it's not hard, may be a lot of work... you need is a set of metric allen/hex keys and 8mm & 10mm socket. i might miss some steps but if i think it goes like so:
- remove 2 speedo button nuts then remove the speedo.
- loose the 3 pinch bolts on the top triple. 1 on each side next to the tubes, and 1 right on the center in between the key module and triple tree big nut (turn your bar all the way to the right, i think... then you'll see it). you don't have to remove them... just loosen them.
- remove headlight
- undo bolts that hold air sensor bracket.
- carefully remove the 2 rubber posts that hold the speedo.
- after you loosen everything bolted to the top triple, you can just slide it up.
- make sure you don't loosen the lower triple pinch bolts. if you do, you have to realign the forks... pain in the @$$...
when you're putting things back on, make sure you retighten everything with proper torque specs... specially on the fork pinch bolts. over tightening can damage the tubes.
again, sorry if i miss any step. good luck [thumbsup]
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Originally Posted by Syd-Monster
Upper or Lower tripple clamp?? The Lower is far more involved, so I'll assume your doing that one.
- Go to your parts specialist and buy new head bearings ready to change <- higly recommended.
- Place bike on rear stand/race stand you need to have bike supported upright. <- essential.
- I like to remove fuel & tank so bike is easy to work on & I dont scratch it <- this is optional.
- Remove handle bars/clip-ons and everything on them, you can keep some things still bolted to it. Just take care not to damage anything, specially the cables.
- Remove instrument cluster & headlight/brackets totally. Move cables out of way.
- Remove the choke cabel (if yours comes throught the middle of the clamp)
- Measure and write down, how far up the forks come out over the top clamp. As you need this distance when your resintalling the forks. (Or you can measure from the bottom of the bottom clamp to the end of the fork outter tube etc. the idea is to have reference for later on.)
- Raise the front of the bike. This probably best done either via straps from the ceiling grabbing at the front of the frame (use a rag to protect your frames paint) or via a hydraulic jack under the horizontal cyclinder of the engine, or combine both. Some how you need to get the front up but leave the wheel, forks & tripples alone. THINK SAFETY HERE.
Then...
**- > Short cut but more brute force way is.
a) Remove brake line or calipers (carefull as their tightly bolted & fluid is paint damaging) Undo the speedo cable too.
b) Start slowly/carefully undoing the bolts holding the forks on.
c) When all loose on top and lower clamp, forks will drop out, with the wheel & all!! (you've been warned) They may need a litte gentle tapping from above to release them if their stick in there.
d) The upper & lower tripple should now be bare with nothing attached.
e) On the back of the upper clamp there is an allen bolt that sits in a reesesed hole, undo it.
f) Start removing the upper clamps shim & nut on the top clamp. This shouldn't be overly tight, so a pair of adjustable pliers should remove it. NOTE THE ORDER OF ASSEMBLY.
g) There is another flange under the triple, undo it. Again, note order of assembly.
h) When all is done, the top tripple lifts off and bottom falls out. Take note that the bearings inside will be greasy & probably dirty/rusty.
** -> The not so rushed way is in steps a) & b) is to remove the front fender, wheel and brake calipers. Thus you can remove one fork at a time & not rush it so much.
- When reinstalling its important to remove the old bearing (both on the stem & inside the steering tube on the frame, you can just nock out the half inside the steering tube with a long punch or sacrafice a cheap flat head screwdriver ;D.), the refit the new bearings. Use a piece of block wood to nock in the new bearings. Use bearing grease to regrease the new bearings.
- Reinstall is then the reverse of above, note that certain bolts need to be tourqed on correctly a search on here will reveal that for you.
- When I did this I followed a Haynes manual. Its a good idea to get one (good book stores) to help you along. You will also learn heaps about your bike too.
Hope this helps. - Chris
Torque Values Replacing the Triple?http://www.ducatimonster.org/smf/ind...?topic=59756.0
Quote from: unknown
Originally Posted by grubbywarrior
Head / bottom yoke bolts (748-996) 8x1.25 22/14
Head / bottom yoke bolts (ST) 8x1.25 22/20
Head / bottom yoke bolts (M900ie) 8x1.25 22/22
Head yoke bolts (SS) 10x1.5 37/37
Head / bottom yoke bolts (SS) 8x1.25 23/20
look at www.convert-me.com to convert from the mewton meter(Nm) to lbs-ft
hope that helps :-\
I'm having fitments issues, what can i do?http://www.ducatimonster.org/smf/ind...3835#msg963835
http://www.ducatimonster.org/smf/ind...?topic=72355.0
http://www.ducatimonster.org/smf/ind...9048#msg559048
What are the options for clip ons?Motowheels clip ons
ICON's
2003 620
http://www.ducatimonster.org/smf/ind...?topic=91149.0
(http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff203/alecdmurrayS4R/1.jpg)
grazi's
2007 S4R
http://www.ducatimonster.org/smf/ind...?topic=85626.0
(http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff203/alecdmurrayS4R/2.jpg)
Vortex clip ons
Spinned's
S2R1000
http://www.ducatimonster.org/smf/ind...topic=102031.0
(http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff203/alecdmurrayS4R/vortex.jpg)
Cycle Cat clip ons
Krakhor9's
2003 620ie
http://www.ducatimonster.org/smf/ind...?topic=92827.0
(http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff203/alecdmurrayS4R/3.jpg)
timgillbo's
2006 620
http://www.ducatimonster.org/smf/ind...?topic=55263.0
(http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff203/alecdmurrayS4R/4.jpg)
tommasellis clip ons
zarn02's
http://www.ducatimonster.org/smf/ind...?topic=90220.0
(http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff203/alecdmurrayS4R/5.jpg)
Harris GP clip ons
neilbaldry's
2006 S2R 800
http://www.ducatimonster.org/smf/ind...?topic=90928.0
(http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff203/alecdmurrayS4R/6.jpg)
Bigred916's
2005 S4R
http://www.ducatimonster.org/smf/ind...?topic=83590.0
(http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff203/alecdmurrayS4R/7.jpg)
Rizoma clip ons
http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=16736.0
alexandre's
2005 S4R
http://www.ducatimonster.org/smf/ind...?topic=98197.0
(http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff203/alecdmurrayS4R/8.jpg)
telemetry's
2006 S2R 1K
http://www.ducatimonster.org/smf/ind...?topic=81487.0
(http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff203/alecdmurrayS4R/9.png)
ZX9R, GSXR, other bike clip ons
Syd-Monster's
1995 M600
http://www.ducatimonster.org/feature...tured1106.html
http://www.ducatimonster.org/smf/ind...?topic=99058.0
(http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff203/alecdmurrayS4R/10.jpg)
Race Supplies Direct
sur4die's
1996 M900
http://www.ducatimonster.org/smf/ind...3835#msg963835
(http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff203/alecdmurrayS4R/11.jpg)
Sato clip ons
Unknown
S4
http://www.ducatimonster.org/smf/ind...?topic=65719.0
(http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff203/alecdmurrayS4R/12.jpg)
Woodcraft
lull's
http://www.ducatimonster.org/smf/ind...?topic=83590.0
(http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff203/alecdmurrayS4R/13.jpg)
LSL clip ons
grubbywarrior's
1999 M750
http://www.ducatimonster.org/smf/ind...?topic=83590.0
(http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff203/alecdmurrayS4R/14.jpg)
Gilles Tooling clip ons
supertjeduc's
2001 M900Sie
http://www.ducatimonster.org/smf/ind...8;sa=showPosts
(http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff203/alecdmurrayS4R/X2Bd0RMqmWoR9MEC0JR7EUER0SEjkJVs01E.jpg)
Flipped bars alternative
c_rex's
S4RS
http://www.ducatimonster.org/smf/ind...?topic=63404.0
(http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff203/alecdmurrayS4R/15.png)
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i initially looked at the thread and thought "another clip-on thread? haven't there been a lot lately?" ;)