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Moto Board => Tech => Topic started by: rdtompk on March 17, 2020, 11:18:58 AM

Title: Wiring project
Post by: rdtompk on March 17, 2020, 11:18:58 AM
Soooooo....

Thinking about buying a used harness for my s2r, hacking it up for the essential engine stuff while at the same time putting together a new system with motogadget stuff for controls and Bluetooth. 

Worth the effort?  I really want to clean up the switch gear.
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Title: Re: Wiring project
Post by: Pinion on March 17, 2020, 11:53:31 AM
I am doing something similar, I have a spare harness if you go too far, lol
I’m using the m unit, while incorporating anther led controller from purpose built moto out of Australia
I am using their turn signals, switching, and tail lights. Going with led headlight as well as moto gadget rfid
Title: Re: Wiring project
Post by: rdtompk on March 17, 2020, 01:17:29 PM
Very cool!

I'll probably be doing it at the end of this riding season (which hasn't even started yet!).  Don't want to tear it apart just as it starts getting warm.

Where are you with your project?  Did you do an actual wiring diagram or are you winging it?  

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Title: Re: Wiring project
Post by: Pinion on March 17, 2020, 01:44:09 PM
Motor is rebuilt, tank cleaned and paint removed. Forks torn down.
Since I have so much time during the apocalypse it’s moving fast
Will do wiring last, probably 2 to 3 weeks from now
I will make a diagram then a harness
Title: Re: Wiring project
Post by: d3vi@nt on March 17, 2020, 04:43:03 PM
Pretty epic wiring project by suzyj: http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=56614.0

Definitely worth checking out if you're going that route.
Title: Re: Wiring project
Post by: Langanobob on March 18, 2020, 06:05:08 PM
Sadly, suzyj hasn’t been here since 2016.  Hope she is OK.
Title: Re: Wiring project
Post by: ducpainter on March 18, 2020, 06:06:27 PM
Quote from: Langanobob on March 18, 2020, 06:05:08 PM
Sadly, suzyj hasn’t been here since 2016.  Hope she is OK.
\
Likewise, but people do move on...
Title: Re: Wiring project
Post by: rdtompk on March 19, 2020, 03:07:40 AM
You know what would be super cool.....

Mind sharing any photos of pdfs of the harness/diagram? 

;D


Quote from: Pinion on March 17, 2020, 01:44:09 PM
Motor is rebuilt, tank cleaned and paint removed. Forks torn down.
Since I have so much time during the apocalypse it’s moving fast
Will do wiring last, probably 2 to 3 weeks from now
I will make a diagram then a harness
Title: Re: Wiring project
Post by: rdtompk on March 19, 2020, 03:09:35 AM
Thanks all for providing feedback here!

I just got back in to another S2R 1000 after selling mine last spring in a temporary bout of insanity.  But now I have both the GS and the Monster!  The perfect duo!

Title: Re: Wiring project
Post by: koko64 on March 19, 2020, 03:34:50 AM
Quote from: rdtompk on March 17, 2020, 11:18:58 AM
Soooooo....

Thinking about buying a used harness for my s2r, hacking it up for the essential engine stuff while at the same time putting together a new system with motogadget stuff for controls and Bluetooth. 

Worth the effort?  I really want to clean up the switch gear.
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200317/26b85fc30acf9a1413ed5e210d4e3563.jpg)

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Very nice looking bike.
Title: Re: Wiring project
Post by: Pinion on March 19, 2020, 04:10:29 AM
Quote from: rdtompk on March 19, 2020, 03:07:40 AM
You know what would be super cool.....

Mind sharing any photos of pdfs of the harness/diagram? 

;D



I will, just in the overthinking it phase at the moment
Title: Re: Wiring project
Post by: rdtompk on March 21, 2020, 04:41:10 AM
Quote from: koko64 on March 19, 2020, 03:34:50 AM
Very nice looking bike.

Thanks, sir.

I feel like I got super lucky finding this one.  The one I "lost" last year was a Black 2006.  This is a 2008 with some of the wish-I-had mods from my old bike!  Pay no mind to the lack of brake lines in the photo; Galfer just dropped 'em off this week and they're on the bike now.
Title: Re: Wiring project
Post by: koko64 on March 21, 2020, 06:13:00 PM
Great front end upgrade and clean overall style  [thumbsup]
Title: Re: Wiring project
Post by: rdtompk on March 22, 2020, 03:21:43 AM
Quote from: koko64 on March 21, 2020, 06:13:00 PM
Great front end upgrade and clean overall style  [thumbsup]

Thanks!  PO did a lot of this.  I recently made the switch back to full bars (from clip-ons) and redid the brake lines.  Now the clutch slave is leaking though!  Replacement already on the way. 

Failed initial inspection in MA because of the integrated blinkers in the back and have to fix that too.  Still so cold though, don't mind working on it!
Title: Re: Wiring project
Post by: Pinion on March 25, 2020, 05:45:36 AM
Quote from: rdtompk on March 22, 2020, 03:21:43 AM
Thanks!  PO did a lot of this.  I recently made the switch back to full bars (from clip-ons) and redid the brake lines.  Now the clutch slave is leaking though!  Replacement already on the way. 

Failed initial inspection in MA because of the integrated blinkers in the back and have to fix that too.  Still so cold though, don't mind working on it!

What is this inspection u speak of, lol
I don’t think I’ve inspected a bike in 20 yrs, they all would fail. I don’t even do turn signals on the front
Title: Re: Wiring project
Post by: rdtompk on March 26, 2020, 02:12:24 AM
MA has pretty strict rules overall (not just motorcycle related!).

Personally I'm glad that cars aren't driving around like they do elsewhere.  Falling apart, no lights, etc....

Would like a little more leeway with the lighting on the bikes though.  Hand signals ought to be sufficient.
Title: Re: Wiring project
Post by: He Man on April 07, 2020, 07:54:22 AM
Am I too late to join in on the fun? [evil]

I attempted this 3 years ago on my S2R1K and boy was I in for a surprise. Doing the electrical wiring is not for the faint of heart. You will need to flash your ECU to unlock your guages in order for this to work. Theres some kind of circuitry in there (the immobolizer namely but i have no clue how it works) that prevents you from simply hacking it apart.

When i start digging into the system, I found that there were several systems that could be cut off and separated so I did that first. These systems were the blinkers, stop lights and headlights.

When I cut them out I could manipulate them to work with my switches, but the bike refused to start. I tried to diagnose it for months to no avail. Eventually I realized that the immobolizer might have something to do with it. The issue is that I would like to disable the immobolizer but my ECU is unlocked and i have a custom map flashed onto my bike ( i have a 2012 1100 EVO motor in an 06 S2R1K). I am deathly afraid of sending my ECU somewhere in fear of losing my map. So I bought another harness off of ebay and threw that in.

If you have better luck, by all means, im ears!

Also hello to everyone that I've missed over the years! Hope you are all doing well!
Title: Re: Wiring project
Post by: koko64 on April 07, 2020, 07:58:10 AM
 [thumbsup]
Title: Re: Wiring project
Post by: booger on April 07, 2020, 03:10:48 PM
Would you happen to know anything about the front fork on your bike? Looks like a fork from a later Monster 1200R.
Title: Re: Wiring project
Post by: PA DL on April 08, 2020, 10:59:22 AM
I have been working on a similar project, got the Munit blue and the Mbuttons working as intended. got rid of a lot of wiring cluster in the front of the bike.
Is it worth it? if you like to work with wires and like a clean looking bike, probably yes, if you don't enjoy or don't understand electrical system probably no.   
Title: Re: Wiring project
Post by: PA DL on April 08, 2020, 11:25:55 AM
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Title: Re: Wiring project
Post by: PA DL on April 08, 2020, 11:31:31 AM
Still a BIG mess under the tank tho. I have a strippet down harness waiting to be installed after I get my ECU flashed so that will solve the clutter under there
Title: Re: Wiring project
Post by: He Man on April 15, 2020, 10:06:02 AM
who is flashing your ECU?
Title: Re: Wiring project
Post by: PA DL on April 28, 2020, 09:32:47 AM
My plan is to send the ECU to RexXer in Germany
Title: Re: Wiring project
Post by: rsoffar on April 30, 2020, 08:41:24 AM
dang gotta save this thread. currently doing quarantine rebuild and this harness is so disgusting Id love to improve it.
Title: Re: Wiring project
Post by: krista on May 04, 2020, 08:47:23 AM
The thing I really hate about the 2000s monsters is how the wiring harness wraps around both sides of the steering stem. We had a 620 that when the bars were full left, the ignition cut out.  :-\ That sucked to troubleshoot. I'm not sure if that bike was ever fixed, really.
Title: Re: Wiring project
Post by: He Man on May 12, 2020, 06:57:58 PM
Quote from: PA DL on April 28, 2020, 09:32:47 AM
My plan is to send the ECU to RexXer in Germany

You got bawls. I would never send my ECU that far away. I know there are a few local shops who do it. Im not sure if there is a DIY method. I also know that there are two types of unlocks.

One of the unlocks allow you to write to the ECU, the other unpairs it from the immobilizer. When i swapped to the m1100 evo motor, I unlocked my ECU to write a new map directly onto my ECU but it did not get disconnected from my immobilizer.
Title: Re: Wiring project
Post by: rsoffar on May 23, 2020, 11:45:02 AM
Quote from: chris on May 04, 2020, 08:47:23 AM
The thing I really hate about the 2000s monsters is how the wiring harness wraps around both sides of the steering stem. We had a 620 that when the bars were full left, the ignition cut out.  :-\ That sucked to troubleshoot. I'm not sure if that bike was ever fixed, really.

the first time I ever put a front end back together and went for a test ride got the bars full turned one direction and it would pull the throttle cable and stick it full open  [laugh] whoops.
Title: Re: Wiring project
Post by: suzyj on July 11, 2020, 07:22:57 PM
Quote from: Langanobob on March 18, 2020, 06:05:08 PM
Sadly, suzyj hasn’t been here since 2016.  Hope she is OK.

Yah, I’m fine. Moved from rural WA to Perth last year, not riding the duc terribly much, but it still starts first time every time when I do :)

When we moved I flew back to pick up the bike, and rode it 450km to the new place. It was absolutely bloody exhausting with the clipons, and I ended up with the worst sunburn of my whole life across the top of my arse where there was a gap between my jeans and jacket.

Here’s a pic of my baby on the way:

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Title: Re: Wiring project
Post by: koko64 on July 11, 2020, 07:27:48 PM
 [thumbsup] time for a bar swap thread?
Title: Re: Wiring project
Post by: suzyj on July 11, 2020, 08:31:39 PM
Not a chance!
Title: Re: Wiring project
Post by: Speeddog on July 11, 2020, 10:03:05 PM
Quote from: suzyj on July 11, 2020, 07:22:57 PM
Yah, I’m fine. Moved from rural WA to Perth last year, not riding the duc terribly much, but it still starts first time every time when I do :)

~~~SNIP~~~


I figured you had been consumed by the wooden boat gnomes.  ;D

(Good to see you back!)
Title: Re: Wiring project
Post by: koko64 on July 11, 2020, 11:44:40 PM
Quote from: suzyj on July 11, 2020, 08:31:39 PM
Not a chance!

Clip ons do put the rider weight over the front wheel which helps Monster weight distribution. My Evo has a forward weight bias with rider and it does help the front tyre dig in.