so who here lives in a state with no helmets laws?
I'm spending my summer here in Milwaukee where there is no helmet laws, there is however a law to wear a helmet while riding your bicycle ???
the kids I ride with never wear helmets either just shorts t shirt and gloves and oh goggles....
I preach all the time but they are not having it lol
so do you ride with or without a lid? be honest!
Live in OKlahoma and no helmet law here.
I use the lid. But before I got my new helmet i took the wife (she wore my only helmet at the time) to the local coffee shop around the corner without it. Didn't enjoy the ride as much.
The only time you need to wear a helmet is on the days you're going to have an accident. If you can be sure you know which day it is, you can skip the helmet. I'll continue to wear mine, and hope it works again if I ever mistake the day (again) and drag my face down the pavement. :)
I have this repeating nightmare that I forget to put my helmet on and by the time I realize this I am on the road riding around and then a cop pulls me over.... Lame Dream Huh :-\
In my years of pro cycling, I've had far worse injuries from crashing bicycles than from crashing motorcycles. If it were not for my helmet... all 280g's of e.p.s. and lexan... I wouldn't be typing this. I'd probably just be drooling on myself, at best. :P
Moral of the story? Head + curb = BAD!!!! Head + helmet + curb = I don't quite remember, but I'm alive and that's all that counts! [thumbsup]
i rode a few times w/o a helmet in hawaii and florida years ago when i was more daring. never felt right riding like that though. i grew up wearing helmets and i've never had a crash (tipping bike excluded ;D) for 25 yrs of riding. but...i had a fairly bad low side doing about 70mph about 6 mos ago and i was wearing my helmet. fractured 5 ribs and my head hit the ground a few times so i shudder to think what would have happened to my head had i not been wearing my helmet... [roll]
In Texas, the land of sweaty balls and harley no helmet make the beast with two backs-ups. I wear one all year around including the off season (June-July-August).
Connecticut does not have a helmet law, but they have a seat belt law [thumbsup]
I wear a helmet all the time.
On July 13th I had a car coming the opposite direct turn in front of me (without warning, or even a turn signal), I tried to avoid the car, and on coming traffic, and ended up going down pretty hard, unconscious for about 5 minutes.. or so I'm told. I split a helmet (moto-x style), received a concussion. The jacket saved my skin, and although the marbles got rattled, I'm not so sure I would have survived this accident.
I'll take some photos of the helmet and post them tomorrow.
I've raced Mt Bikes, and usually won't ride outside of my yard without a helmet. This applies to Mt. Bike, ATV, Dirt Bike, Super Moto, and hopefully a monster soon.
The day I went down it was 85 degrees out, and I was still wearing leather and helmet and it saved my butt, and more importantly my marbles.
Glenn
Here in South Carolina there is no helmet law. In my younger days, i wasn't much for helmets. For the past several years i've worn one, and it just feels weird not to.
i wear a helmet
1) on my motorcycle
2) on my mountain bike
3) when i snowboard
4) when i run a chainsaw
5) for whitewater river sports of any kind
6) when riding a snowmobile
7) at all times while working (at least in my old job...)
No helmet law here in Arizona for motorcycle riders, Only children riding bicycles. I wear it always no matter how far I am going. [bacon] [bacon]
when i first started riding i shirked my helmet a lot of the time. then i had a couple spills on days that i just happened to be wearing it. i took it as a sign; a polite suggestion from god, the universe, or whatever, if you will...
kansas has no helmet law, provided you're over 17.
and now i'm in south korea, land of the scooter, and the rat bike. given they ride these things down the sidewalks, i think i may still need a helmet. :P
You know whats funny, i take my bike down the block without any gear to put it away (its a 1 lane safe street) i feel really make the beast with two backsing unsafe.
On my bmx, i can hit 20mph, and be cutting across 6 lanes of traffic through people, and all that jazz with no helmet no gloves but i feel safe. Its really werid. I ride stupider on my bike which i could probably hurt myself more on that thing than my moto at 20mph, but i feel safe with nothing on.
But i will always wear helmet and gloves when riding. Leather jacket always for the canyon runs. Mesh jacket for every thing else, and i ride with t shirts when im picking up a date, because i know ill be civil with a passenger and riding in NYC gives you a 6th sense of traffic danger after a while.
Currently Ohio has no helmet law. 4 years ago when I was still riding Harleys I didn't wear a Helmet. I did wear leather in the cooler weather.
In '05 I started riding BMWs and started wearing a Helmet. In the Spring of '07 when I got my 1st Ducati I wore a Helmet and Armored mesh jacket in the early Summer and then got a Perforated leather jacket mid Summer .
Come the Fall of '07 I stocked up on leather pants , leather jackets , racing boots, back protector , safety jacket , and helmets.
I don't ride anywhere without all of the above except sometimes I just wear the back protector w/ armored Dainese leather jackets instead of the Dainese Wave V Safety Jacket which has a built in back protector w/ Dainese leather jackets.
Strange....after I had my accident and broke 4 ribs and punctured a lung etc. and had 2 operations, my brother said he would disown me if I were to ride again.
Well my accident was 4/5 and as of 6/5 I was told by my Surgeon that I could ride so I have been .
Now my brother is fixing up his Harley which he hasn't ridden in some years and I ask him if he was going to sell it and he said " No, I'm getting ready to ride it."
When I asked him if he was going to get all the safety gear he said " No, it isn't necessary since he wasn't going to go out and ride twisty roads like a maniac."
He said the safety gear didn't do me any good when I wrecked eventhough I didn't have a single mark on my body any where.
When I asked him if he was at least going to wear a helmet he once again said " NO ! "
Okie law states that a rider under 18 has to wear a helmet, above that no restrictions.
I'll always wear me lid and most of my gear. I think I'm worth it ;)
I'm from Milwaukee myself and every time the powers that be are attempting to pass a helmet law all the Harley riders circle the capital in Madison in protest.
Just my personal opinion, but they ride harleys.... wearing a helmet is a smart thing... why would THEY wear it?
I would feel as naked as if I jumped on the bike with no pants and no underwear on. In SC, about 2 hours ride from here, there is no helmet law, but I have no urge whatsoever to ride like that
Never ride without it - ever.
No helmet law in SC, but we are just a few miles from Ga. and then into NC which do have helmet laws so all the Harley guys have to take a lid with em stopping to put them on st the state lines. ;D ;D
LA
It is funny to see here. I live in NC about 1 hr north of Myrtle Beach SC (SC doesn't have helmet laws). The exit just after you cross the border into SC, there is a little pull-off that is littered with helmets. I just can't bring myself to liberate a few to pay for my projects.
Ironic, I rode for years without a helmet. Of course I was a drunk retard for most of those years. I sobered up and realized I had more to live for and now I won't ride 3 blocks without on. If it's to short of a ride for me to put my helmet on I usually just ride my bicycle.
Quote from: He Man on July 25, 2008, 10:20:14 PM
i ride with t shirts when im picking up a date, because i know ill be civil with a passenger and riding in NYC gives you a 6th sense of traffic danger after a while.
Er....do you put gear on the passenger...?
I rode around the block a couple times in AZ with no helmet on. It didnt seem as free and amazing as people try to pretend. The one thing I did notice is that I feel more uncomfortable with no gloves on than I do with no helmet.
Quote from: someguy on July 26, 2008, 09:54:57 AM
Er....do you put gear on the passenger...?
Its long explination, but i rarely give rides to anyone. I only have 2 steady riders, and they started out with full gear. Now im okay with helmet, gloves, long pants and anything that isnt crazy for footwear, ie. no flipflops heels. Its usually just a local ride around town. I dont think id ever ride 2 up on the highway. Im just not comfortable with that. plus i cant inmagine it being comfortable for 2 people for too much time.
Quote from: Hank on July 26, 2008, 12:52:09 AM
Okie law states that a rider under 18 has to wear a helmet, above that no restrictions.
HI is similar. for licensed riders.
permit riders of any age have to wear full PPE (not that jeans, long-sleeve t shirt, garden gloves, and sneaks count as PPE)
but really, that's uniforcable, until the cop pulls you over for wheelies or checks your ID while scraping you off the pavement [roll]
Quote from: Vindingo on July 26, 2008, 11:16:25 AM
I rode around the block a couple times in AZ with no helmet on. It didnt seem as free and amazing as people try to pretend. The one thing I did notice is that I feel more uncomfortable with no gloves on than I do with no helmet.
+1 I have the same experience - riding without gloves feels way too weird. I think I've gotten so used to how they restrict movement.
I have been to plenty of states with no helmet laws, I still wore one.
There are plenty of brothels in the world that have no condom laws...
That doesn't mean I am going to bet my life that every other asshole has their shit together, after all you are sharing the same space with a lot of assholes, same applies to riding. The helmet just makes sense.
Some times I wear a condom while riding too, I just think it looks cool.
I'm not required to wear a helmet here in Colorado (not sure how the law is worded).
But I wear mine, no matter what.
Quote from: green bastard on July 26, 2008, 02:04:07 PM
There are plenty of brothels in the world that have no condom laws...
[bacon] [bacon] [bacon] [bacon] [bacon] [bacon] [bacon] [bacon] [bacon]
I'm going to have to remember that one!
CT has no helmet law
i've never ridden without one though...
besides the obvious reason to wear it,
i have another...
BUGS!
:P yuck!
So, what has become clear to me over my years of riding and knowing other riders of other brands, is this: Riders are more likely to wear a helmet (or not) based on what is culturally acceptable for their Brand image. For most people it really has little to do with personal principles and more to do with what their "tribe" does. What we wear when we're on our bikes tends to be more like "costumes" for our brand role-playing. For example:
Harley: No helmet, Leather vest, fringe
Ducati: Helmet, Leather Jacket, gloves, maybe full-leathers
Japanese: No helmet, no jacket, usually shorts
Another way to look at is that most riders wear what others in their brand thinks looks "cool". Most people when they get a certain type, or brand of bike, want to be viewed as cool and accepted by other owners of their bike.
Again, I'm painting with a broad brush here. These generalities are just that, generalities. I'm not saying that we don't have minds of our own. Just that we are heavily influenced by our bike's brand culture. This makes much more sense than assuming that most people who end up riding a Ducati just happen to be people predisposed to where helmets. We wear helmets because the group of riders we relate to wear helmets.
Now, to poke a hole in my own theory, I rider with a mixed group of riders, mostly Harleys, who all wear helmets and riding jackets.
Motorcyling is a very image driven sport, and what we wear is part of that image.
Me, I never feel more like a superhero than I do decked out in helmet, gloves, jacket, boots. Oh, yeah, I feel safe too. But I feel ... I don't know, powerful. ....
Valor, I have an example to help show that your theory is correct.
A young friend of mine at work bought a 620 Monster as his first bike (influenced by me I suppose). Anyway he was uncomfortable on the Monster, his hip would hurt after a short time riding.
He traded it for a Sporster and though he wore a full face helmet when he rode the Ducati, he switched helmet styles (I think he went to 3/4) 'cause "It (the full face) just doesn't look right on the Harley"
I thought that was bizzare but I guess it is not an uncommon train of thought.
Anyway, I live in PA, no helmet law for those over 18 w/2 years riding. I always wear a helmet when on the road.
Folks in PA are trying to get the helmet law reinstated... I hope they fail! Even though I wear a helmet I think we, as riders, should have the right to make a choice.
whatever.
+1 for the bug argument.
or rocks.
no thank you.
Well, I have been down 3 times and I am glad I had my helmet on everytime. I have ridden without it before but as allready mentioned, a bummble bee to the face is very unpleasant as is a rock kicked up by a damned semi lol, I'll wear the helmet thanx
If you need any reason to wear a helmet.....
(http://www.babble.com/CS/blogs/famecrawler/2008/02/23-End/gary-busey-teeth.jpg)
In Virginia. Helmet law, and I wear it all the time.I won't get on the bike without it. I won't go further than the corner gas station without the helmet, a jacket (mesh or leather), and gloves.
I used to live in Maryland when they didn't have a helmet law, and I wore one then too. Went around a curve one day in a gullywasher summer storm at about 20MPH, hydroplaned, and hit a mailbox with my head. Destroyed the mailbox, scuffed the helmet. Learned my lesson.
I live in SC with no helmet law, but I rarely find myself riding without it. If I am traveling only around the corner, I might not wear it, but usually do. I get more comments on WHY do I wear a helmet than compliments on my bike. It really depends on the day around here too...When the weather is bright and sunny I hear people complain saying "it's too hot to wear my helmet." blah, blah, blah... I wear mine and that's all that counts. Oddly enough the majority of people I see on Ducati's here in Charleston, i.e. SportClassic, Motard, Multistrada, do not wear helmets or much other gear at that.
I saved these image from an old post at the old site.
(http://www.members.cox.net/accipiter5/Helmet_1.jpg)
(http://www.members.cox.net/accipiter5/Helmet_2.jpg)
(http://www.members.cox.net/accipiter5/Helmet_3.jpg)
You may wish to post a "graphic" warning shortly before those pictures....
it's simple a helmet is a piece of safety equipment just as a seatbelt is for a car. we should be wearing them and encouraging others to wear them. I wouldn't be here if I hadn't worn mine when i had a tank slapper at 70 and landed on my helmet (although does explain me being the way i am ???)
i work for the military and to get on base we have to wear... helmet, long pants and shirts, gloves and over the ankle shoes , oh and a stupid reflector vest or sash (feel like i'm in a stupid pagent).
I ride into work almost every day. Several people that see me will say "Its too hot to wear that gear!" I'll simply reply "If its too hot to wear gear, then its too hot to ride, and I love the shit out of riding!"
Lived in AZ, FL with no helmet laws. Rarely ever wore it.
WA had helmet laws.
TX..no helmet laws again. Back into my old habits here. I do wear it when I meet up with others and go on group rides.
Quote from: IZ on July 27, 2008, 03:37:15 PM
I do wear it when I meet up with others and go on group rides.
why then an not other times? ???
you'd look funny with a big scar on your head from brain surgery dude....
just sayin' :-*
Quote from: DuCaTiNi on July 27, 2008, 03:39:21 PM
why then an not other times? ???
you'd look funny with a big scar on your head from brain surgery dude....
just sayin' :-*
When I'm out on group rides, I ride a bit more aggressive.
Scars. Yeah, I've seen all the arm/leg/back/head surgeries and aftermath first hand working in the hopsitals. Several clients I've worked with in therapy have had head injuries..only a couple from motrocycle accidents though. Mostly from cars, waterskiing, snowskiing and bicycle accidents.
Anyway, it's my choice and I'm glad to be back in a state that gives me that freedom.
If/when we move again and there are helmet laws, I have no problems putting it on.
Quote from: IZ on July 27, 2008, 03:55:43 PM
When I'm out on group rides, I ride a bit more aggressive.
Scars. Yeah, I've seen all the arm/leg/back/head surgeries and aftermath first hand working in the hopsitals. Several clients I've worked with in therapy have had head injuries..only a couple from motrocycle accidents though. Mostly from cars, waterskiing, snowskiing and bicycle accidents.
Anyway, it's my choice and I'm glad to be back in a state that gives me that freedom.
If/when we move again and there are helmet laws, I have no problems putting it on.
it is your choice.... sorry for my concern for your brain :)
We´re all old enough to know and should know the consequences of not putting on a helmet. We have evolved as a species since the 1960´s, well most of us have, and for anyone to justify NOT wearing a helmet is just not worth arguing. :)
You don´t wear a helmet and crack your head open.. tough make the beast with two backsing luck, maybe you´ll know better in your next life.
Most people who don´t wear a helmet, seems to me, have never had a serious motorcycle accident where their head has bounced along the asphalt and gravel for a good 20 meters or so. I´ll post up a pic of my Arai after me being run over by a car, flying through the air, landing around 15 meters down the road on my head and bouncing along.
I would not be alive if it were not for my helmet, be the name brand that it may, any homologated helmet would have saved me.. maybe not nearly as well but, it would have saved me. Each to their own I guess, that´s the fun of being able to choose.
:)
Quote from: NuTTs on July 27, 2008, 04:04:57 PM
We´re all old enough to know and should know the consequences of not putting on a helmet. We have evolved as a species since the 1960´s, well most of us have, and for anyone to justify NOT wearing a helmet is just not worth arguing. :)
You don´t wear a helmet and crack your head open.. tough make the beast with two backsing luck, maybe you´ll know better in your next life.
Most people who don´t wear a helmet, seems to me, have never had a serious motorcycle accident where their head has bounced along the asphalt and gravel for a good 20 meters or so. I´ll post up a pic of my Arai after me being run over by a car, flying through the air, landing around 15 meters down the road on my head and bouncing along.
I would not be alive if it were not for my helmet, be the name brand that it may, any homologated helmet would have saved me.. maybe not nearly as well but, it would have saved me. Each to their own I guess, that´s the fun of being able to choose.
:)
[clap]
i'm glad you wear a helmet NuTTs :)
this bears repeating
Quote from: NuTTs on July 27, 2008, 04:04:57 PM
You don´t wear a helmet and crack your head open.. tough make the beast with two backsing luck, maybe you´ll know better in your next life.
:o :o :o
QuoteMost people who don´t wear a helmet, seems to me, have never had a serious motorcycle accident where their head has bounced along the asphalt and gravel for a good 20 meters or so. I´ll post up a pic of my Arai after me being run over by a car, flying through the air, landing around 15 meters down the road on my head and bouncing along.
Quote from: someguy on July 27, 2008, 09:05:00 AM
You may wish to post a "graphic" warning shortly before those pictures....
Why? They're presentable now. It might be different if they showed pictures post accident & prior to surgery.
Quote from: mac900 on July 27, 2008, 04:40:56 PM
Why? They're presentable now. It might be different if they showed pictures post accident & prior to surgery.
Some people might find them a little extreme, and they may or may not be presentable at a workplace, depending on where one works.
Before they had the law in Ca. no one ever wore a helmet. I'm not shure they even sold them in Ca.
I seen my Cuz and my friend (best man at my wedding), die. Both would probably be alive because they both hit the curb with there head.
I have the full gear on now.
There is no helmet required in CT. I have made a run to the gas station at the end of the block a few times. When I wear the lid, i see all the cagers and there expression says, "Hey, there's a Ducati, don't see many of those..." But when I cruise without the lid, the expression reads someting like, "look at this idiot..."
I don't know, maybe it's me, but I prefer the lid. On a run from CT to NC, I took a pinball sized rock right in the face shield. would have been much more enjoyable without the lid
Quote from: Ranger06 on July 27, 2008, 06:00:46 PM
I don't know, maybe it's me, but I prefer the lid. On a run from CT to NC, I took a pinball sized rock right in the face shield. would have been much more enjoyable without the lid
owwwwwch
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i have lived in nh and ct where there is no helmet laws and wa and va with helmet laws and have never been anywhere without mine and full gear. hit a bat at 40mph one night... good times.... blood and crap all over my helmet, but not my head ;D the dry cleaning bill was awesome!
Rode the ST this morning sans helmet -- and wearing shorts, a T-shirt & flip flops. Total distance was about 15 feet across the street and ten yards up the driveway into the neighbor's garage where it spends its idle hours. I was, however, fully legal for Arizona with sunglasses on. Still felt weird. That, and I have no idea how anybody shifts with flip flops -- took me a good minute or two to find neutral after I parked it.
For me, a helmet, good boots & leathers just make it more fun to pay attention to the ride. Wouldn't be enjoyable without. AND we have monsterous big bugs here -- caught one in the visor today that would have ruined my whole day otherwise.
Some photos of my last helmet.... R.I.P! [beer]
http://www.rebelpacket.net/gallery/Helmet
Glenn
Have grown up with compulsory nationwide helmet laws, feel really vulnerable without one, so I always wear one [thumbsup]
Quote from: DuCaTiNi on July 27, 2008, 04:07:43 PM
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i'm glad you wear a helmet NuTTs :)
Thanks hun [thumbsup]
Some pics of my beloved yet shortlived Arai..
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Quote from: NuTTs on July 27, 2008, 04:04:57 PM
We´re all old enough to know and should know the consequences of not putting on a helmet. We have evolved as a species since the 1960´s, well most of us have, and for anyone to justify NOT wearing a helmet is just not worth arguing. :)
You don´t wear a helmet and crack your head open.. tough make the beast with two backsing luck, maybe you´ll know better in your next life.
my dad has some friends that this happened to this weekend, it was a long first ride out after his last accident where he broke his pelvis. :(
they hit a dog on the highway, went over the bars, he landed on his head, his old lady landed on her back..
he cracked his head open, broke a bunch of ribs.. she cracked a few vertabre and needs surgery.they had to be air lifted out, but were both conscious last night.
of course being harely riders, all there friends say "ohh, its a good thing they weren't wearing helmets, they would have broke there neck." [roll]
it was actually pretty difficult to get my dad to wear a helmet. but now he won't go without one .. but he's also riding a BMW now too :P
I haven't put a lot of thought into it but I believe there should be some sort of insurance adjustment if you are involved in an accident without proper riding gear. DOT helmet at the least.
They offer discounts for cars with all sorts of safety equipment like airbags, anti-lock breaks and such. Why not decline full coverage when the rider isn't taking proper precautions while riding.
So the person that wears gloves, leather, over the ankle boots, and full helmet gets full coverage in the even of an accident.
Those that get into an accident without gear get reduced coverage from what they were actually paying for.
Or perhaps have a higher optional rate that will cover you in the event you get into an accident without gear.
And those without gear that have high medical expenses due to an accident have paid for it themselves.
Again, I don't know. I haven't thought this out.
Some people need more incentive to be safe other than their life. Make it cost more. That way people have the option to not wear lids, but have to offset the option monetarily.
Quote from: That Nice Guy Beck! on July 25, 2008, 04:20:26 PM
the kids I ride with never wear helmets either just shorts t shirt and gloves and oh goggles....
I preach all the time but they are not having it lol
ummmm...i think the proper term for these kids are...SQUIDS
http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=2075.0
There was a similar thread on this particular topic about a month ago. I will say what I said then. My face, according to my girlfriend is my "money maker", she is hot. I like getting hot pu$$y. So I'm not gonna chance scarring my face. Unless I wanna spend the rest of my life buying my wife clothes at LANE BRYANT (aka fat women's clothing store). But until the day I decide to be a chubby chaser, I'll wear my helmet. I don't agree with the whole "do what other guys who ride the same bike do". I think it's a matter of comfort. My helmet is okay with regards to comfort, but if my head is hot and sweaty and my dick is getting plenty of attention...well that's the price I'll pay.
cg
Quote from: CountGreffi on July 28, 2008, 11:14:39 AM
There was a similar thread on this particular topic about a month ago. I will say what I said then. My face, according to my girlfriend is my "money maker", she is hot. I like getting hot pu$$y. So I'm not gonna chance scarring my face. Unless I wanna spend the rest of my life buying my wife clothes at LANE BRYANT (aka fat women's clothing store). But until the day I decide to be a chubby chaser, I'll wear my helmet. I don't agree with the whole "do what other guys who ride the same bike do". I think it's a matter of comfort. My helmet is okay with regards to comfort, but if my head is hot and sweaty and my dick is getting plenty of attention...well that's the price I'll pay.
cg
This is stupid. [roll]
But whatever gets you to wear a helmet.
Quote from: CountGreffi on July 28, 2008, 11:14:39 AM
There was a similar thread on this particular topic about a month ago. I will say what I said then. My face, according to my girlfriend is my "money maker", she is hot. I like getting hot pu$$y. So I'm not gonna chance scarring my face. Unless I wanna spend the rest of my life buying my wife clothes at LANE BRYANT (aka fat women's clothing store). But until the day I decide to be a chubby chaser, I'll wear my helmet. I don't agree with the whole "do what other guys who ride the same bike do". I think it's a matter of comfort. My helmet is okay with regards to comfort, but if my head is hot and sweaty and my dick is getting plenty of attention...well that's the price I'll pay.
cg
wow... did you buy a second helmet for you ego?
Quote from: DucPete on July 28, 2008, 11:18:53 AM
This is stupid. [roll]
But whatever gets you to wear a helmet.
+11ty billion
Quote from: whidbeymonster on July 28, 2008, 11:57:37 AM
wow... did you buy a second helmet for you ego?
[clap] really....
Sorry I am honest. I wear a helmet because I don't wanna look like Sloth from The Goonies. Sorry I am honest and don't write bullshit about how I ride a helmet cause it's cool. I ride it to protect the goods.
cg
Quit hating
Quote from: CountGreffi on July 28, 2008, 12:16:43 PM
Sorry I am honest. I wear a helmet because I don't wanna look like Sloth from The Goonies. Sorry I am honest and don't write bullshit about how I ride a helmet cause it's cool. I ride it to protect the goods.
cg
Quit hating
i think you're missing the point of our comments...
completely.
I, like all other squids, ride without a helmet when these two conditions are met:
1. I am going to leave my brain at home.
2. I know I am only going to be riding on roads that are paved with materials softer than my skull.
Quote from: DuCaTiNi on July 28, 2008, 12:20:00 PM
i think you're missing the point of our comments...
completely.
Wazzup bros and pregnant doges!! I sport a lid to protect my grill from grindage. I'm mad hot and I don't wanna mess that up when I ride my Ducati. My pregnant dog is MAD hot too. And as long as she's on my tip I'm wearing my lid. Cause if I messed that up she'd be on some other bro's tip.
P.S. I'm HOT!!
I work out too.
/parody
Quote from: DuCaTiNi on July 28, 2008, 12:20:00 PM
i think you're missing the point of our comments...
completely.
You are missing MY point. I don't care, if you wanna be the bully and mock me be my guest. I just gave you a REAL reason I wear a helmet. Because if I got into a wreck and make the beast with two backsed up my face, my girl woudn't be too happy. My chances with the girls on the side would be down to. So see what I care if you mock me. I just said why I wear my helmet. To protect my face.
Quote from: CountGreffi on July 28, 2008, 12:37:55 PM
You are missing MY point. I don't care, if you wanna be the bully and mock me be my guest. I just gave you a REAL reason I wear a helmet. Because if I got into a wreck and make the beast with two backsed up my face, my girl woudn't be too happy. My chances with the girls on the side would be down to. So see what I care if you mock me. I just said why I wear my helmet. To protect my face.
I think we understand. You don't want to bust up your face because in all honesty the girls don't want to make out with, as you put it, Sloth.
It makes sense to me.
Other people don't want to DIE. Or be able to actually function. But we all have our own reasons. [thumbsup]
Never knew the day where you could ride without a helmet in Canada, always wore one on the snowmobile, wear one racing Alpine skiing now (still feels weird there). Tried riding without one in Kentucky for a bit hated it. Harley riders here are still sporting the shortest thing they can, and most aren't even DOT approved which is a requirement. Now if only they would refuse them universal health care in the case of an accident without an approved helmet.
Hell we are all adults (at least by age) if you chose to ride with out proper protective gear your choice, just don't whine or have your family whine about the consequences of your decision.
And on that happy note, always cool to see a guy in full leathers and full helmet, and his gf on the back in a bikini and full helmet. I admit I've always wanted to walk up to the girl and say how lucky she is that her man loves her enough to buy her protection as good as his!
[drink]
Quote from: CountGreffi on July 28, 2008, 12:37:55 PM
You are missing MY point. I don't care, if you wanna be the bully and mock me be my guest. I just gave you a REAL reason I wear a helmet. Because if I got into a wreck and make the beast with two backsed up my face, my girl woudn't be too happy. My chances with the girls on the side would be down to. So see what I care if you mock me. I just said why I wear my helmet. To protect my face.
Quote from: CountGreffi on July 28, 2008, 11:14:39 AM
There was a similar thread on this particular topic about a month ago. I will say what I said then. My face, according to my girlfriend is my "money maker", she is hot. I like getting hot pu$$y. So I'm not gonna chance scarring my face. Unless I wanna spend the rest of my life buying my wife clothes at LANE BRYANT (aka fat women's clothing store). But until the day I decide to be a chubby chaser, I'll wear my helmet. I don't agree with the whole "do what other guys who ride the same bike do". I think it's a matter of comfort. My helmet is okay with regards to comfort, but if my head is hot and sweaty and my dick is getting plenty of attention...well that's the price I'll pay.
cg
no, i get what your vulgar mouth is saying (there is a better way of expressing yourself)...
what i get is, that you take vanity to a whole new level. if your girl, and your girls on the side [roll], are with you for your pretty face only, then they are just as vain as you are.
i'm not mocking you, and i appreciate your honesty, but it's sad that your main concern is living with a messed up face.
Quote from: CountGreffi on July 28, 2008, 12:37:55 PM
I just said why I wear my helmet. To protect my face.
Because your brain certainly isn't worth protecting [roll]
If all you want to protect is your face then buy one of these:
http://www.internationalbodyarmor.com/BodyArmor/HardArmor/BallisticFaceMask/
It will make you look unique and totally cool.
Quote from: DucPete on July 28, 2008, 12:29:45 PM
Wazzup bros and pregnant doges!! I sport a lid to protect my grill from grindage. I'm mad hot and I don't wanna mess that up when I ride my Ducati. My pregnant dog is MAD hot too. And as long as she's on my tip I'm wearing my lid. Cause if I messed that up she'd be on some other bro's tip.
P.S. I'm HOT!!
I work out too.
/parody
Bwahahahhahahahahha!!!!!
Quote from: DucPete on July 28, 2008, 12:29:45 PM
Wazzup bros and pregnant doges!! I sport a lid to protect my grill from grindage. I'm mad hot and I don't wanna mess that up when I ride my Ducati. My pregnant dog is MAD hot too. And as long as she's on my tip I'm wearing my lid. Cause if I messed that up she'd be on some other bro's tip.
P.S. I'm HOT!!
I work out too.
/parody
foushizzle!!! ducpete you are da bomb-diggity! hahahahahahaha! [laugh]
Little bit of vanity never hurt anyone. There's nothing wrong with being aware you're easy on the eyes.
Personally though, if she is only with you cause your pretty, your aim is wrong. If you have to some on the side, then either she is no good in the sack, or you aren't; causing her to not bother with the effort and the side ones to discover it quick enough to get out.
That being said, I put one on even though I don't have to. Attracting someone that is easy on the eyes can be nice, but attracting someone that you like to look at AND talk to is a little bit more important. Crashing my bare dome would likely make the latter far more difficult, especially if I am not around afterwards.
Haha... talking about bike fashion, I picked up my new BMW GS Adv this evening.. I took the really long way home and I just realized why people were generally moving out of the way and then staring and pointing. 1 piece leather suit worn and wearing worn pucks, worn (race) boots, full face helmet on top of this gargantuan bike. As you can tell, fashion isn´t my number one priority.
Quote from: NuTTs on July 28, 2008, 03:25:54 PM
Haha... talking about bike fashion, I picked up my new BMW GS Adv this evening.. I took the really long way home and I just realized why people were generally moving out of the way and then staring and pointing. 1 piece leather suit worn and wearing worn pucks, worn (race) boots, full face helmet on top of this gargantuan bike. As you can tell, fashion isn´t my number one priority.
Long way home like this:
http://www.youtube.com/v/Yk_Qkz_5ti8&hl=en&fs=1
You need to go out and drop a couple grand on some Motorad and/or Aerostitch attire.
Quote from: NuTTs on July 28, 2008, 03:25:54 PM
Haha... talking about bike fashion, I picked up my new BMW GS Adv this evening.. I took the really long way home and I just realized why people were generally moving out of the way and then staring and pointing. 1 piece leather suit worn and wearing worn pucks, worn (race) boots, full face helmet on top of this gargantuan bike. As you can tell, fashion isn´t my number one priority.
HAHAHA! That's awesome
Quote from: RobJohn3 on July 25, 2008, 07:06:50 PM
In Texas, the land of sweaty balls [...] I wear one all year around including the off season (June-July-August).
Just one sweaty ball?
I´m not that crazy, yet ;D
I´m waiting for my Rukka Lancelot suit - it´s a Gore Tex Pro Shell garment that is totally perforated, treated leather with a Gore Tex membrane that you wear all year round. It keeps you cool in summer and warm in winter. It´s totally waterproof (kind of like BMW Atlantis suit) and lets out heat and humidity when it´s hot.. sounds really cool. Price isn´t really cool at 2000EURO.
Can you buy Rukka in the USA?
For the break-in period I think I´m going to ride to Portugal or France.. I´ll let fate decide. It´ll be a day trip though. Anyone up for a road trip?
Quote from: DucPete on July 28, 2008, 10:43:54 AM
I haven't put a lot of thought into it but I believe there should be some sort of insurance adjustment if you are involved in an accident without proper riding gear.[...]
So the person that wears gloves, leather, over the ankle boots, and full helmet gets full coverage in the even of an accident.
Those that get into an accident without gear get reduced coverage from what they were actually paying for.[...]
Again, I don't know. I haven't thought this out.
This is a really interesting idea. It's like being overweight or smoking, and paying more for health insurance, but after the fact instead of before. Yeah, there are probably reasons why it'd backfire, or not be politically feasible (taking away previously purchased coverage, for example). But it sure makes sense from a managing-your-losses business perspective, for the insurance companies.
ObAnswerToTheActualQuestionAsked:
I always wear helmet, gloves, jacket, pants. Almost always wear boots; I've worn sneakers for a short trip once or twice, although this felt really odd. Never ridden without a helmet, and never intend to.
After crashing in blue jeans years ago, jeans feel inadequate. I've worn them since, but only while waiting for my full riding suit to arrive. Now it's always a full suit, even when it's hot.
I like my brain, and my skin; both of them consistently make my rides more enjoyable. If I only get to keep one, I'll keep the brain. But I prefer not to have to give either one up.
its probably not the best thing to do but when i'm idling about downtown (where i live) i will wear sneakers, jeans, t-shirt, gloves and 3/4 helmet. I am sure i can hurt myself a bit more than if i am on my bicycle in shorts and no gloves (starting to think i need a helmet for the bicycle, summer is almost over) but i am aware of this and ride very defensively and cautiously.
i don't like to do more than about 40 without a kevlar long sleeved shirt and proper riding shoes that cover my ankles... the shirt won't do anything for impact but it's better than a lot of things for abrasion.
if i am on any sort of a 'ride' it's at least a mesh jacket with armour. i may or may not switch to a full-face helmet (i have 2) depending on roads/speed etc.
i have the pants but only put them on when i'm feeling aggressive. i find i am more cautious when not dressed in full gear.
my preference is back roads, slow, open face helmet, mesh jacket. and no bugs please, i've eaten enough.
i can't believe someone would not wear a helmet, and gloves!! all the time i see guys with no gloves.
i've been riding 32 years, from 50cc honda minibike on up, i've had a few tip-overs, slides, low sides etc, nothing serious, a couple of rear-enders (one at 1mph, and one that scared me enough to make me take a break for a few years) and one really good Bam-through-the-air-wakeup-on-the-ground. and yes i had a beer or two. it's amazing i survived 19 at all. i have nothing to prove anymore, and assume the risks inherent to motorcycling. for me it's part of the experience now.
Florida here - When I first moved here from I got rid of my bike. No turns and way too hot, especially just sitting and baking at a stoplight. Then they changed the helmet law and I wanted to get a bike again. When i did, I still wore a helmet, but as of late i've ditched it. Even bought a new helmet to help me wanna wear one. But, it hasn't worked...
What I've noticed, helmetless, is that I have much better vision periferaly. I can hear better and I ride slower due to all the wind noise and feel. So, i ride safer w/o a helmet in that sense. I'm used to it now and prefer not to wear one. When I do I feel really confined. Yeah, it is STUPID, but I feel that I ride safer and have a better perception of my surroundings. if i die, I die.... - So it goes...
I thought all of you were fans of the 'mo nakid is mo better'???? [evil]
Quote from: JoDuc on July 29, 2008, 11:33:48 AM
I thought all of you were fans of the 'mo nakid is mo better'???? [evil]
Only on bikes and women, not guys.
One bounce of the head on pavement and you're asking for permanent damage. Good luck.
Quote from: DucPete on July 28, 2008, 10:43:54 AM
I haven't put a lot of thought into it but I believe there should be some sort of insurance adjustment if you are involved in an accident without proper riding gear. DOT helmet at the least.
(snip)
I like the idea, though the main purpose of moto or auto insurance is to cover your liability if you damage someone else's vehicle and (for the most part) hurt someone with your vehicle. If you purchase more coverage, it'll help replace or repair your vehicle if it's damaged. Neither is much affected by your gear choices.
The places that gear vs. none would show up are in medical insurance and life insurance. Oddly enough, I just purchased life insurance through the same company that covers our house, cars & motorcycles and went through the whole lifestyle quiz. The interviewer spent probably 20 minutes or more grilling me about what kind of rock climbing I do (these days it's almost entirely easy bouldering & top-roping stuff that would bore your average 14 year old) but not a single question about the motorcycles! [laugh]
Quote from: DucPete on July 28, 2008, 10:43:54 AM
I haven't put a lot of thought into it but I believe there should be some sort of insurance adjustment if you are involved in an accident without proper riding gear. DOT helmet at the least.
They offer discounts for cars with all sorts of safety equipment like airbags, anti-lock breaks and such. Why not decline full coverage when the rider isn't taking proper precautions while riding.
So the person that wears gloves, leather, over the ankle boots, and full helmet gets full coverage in the even of an accident.
Those that get into an accident without gear get reduced coverage from what they were actually paying for.
Or perhaps have a higher optional rate that will cover you in the event you get into an accident without gear.
And those without gear that have high medical expenses due to an accident have paid for it themselves.
Again, I don't know. I haven't thought this out.
Some people need more incentive to be safe other than their life. Make it cost more. That way people have the option to not wear lids, but have to offset the option monetarily.
i think this makes perfect sense -- but do it differently.
you commit to wearing certain gear -- and that determines your policy coverage and cost.
if you are in a wreck and not wearing that gear, then you get denied any coverage at all.
so if you commit to wearing helmet, CE jacket, gloves, pants and boots, you get a policy for the cheapest, and on up for each item less.
I would go for that. i never ride without helmet, jacket, gloves and boots. sometimes i will wear pants, but i can't always swing that.
i like that plan. sometimes i just wear sneakers and jeans, but always have jacket, gloves and full helmet.
apropos the original topic, i always have worn a helmet and honestly don't like the feel without a full face helmet. they're trying to get rid of helmet laws in michigan and i don't get why.
on the other hand, like i said, i don't even own leather bottoms, so if they suddenly came up with "full leathers" laws, i'd probably be against it just like some are against the helmet laws.
Quote from: cmorgan47 on July 30, 2008, 08:23:10 AM
i like that plan. sometimes i just wear sneakers and jeans, but always have jacket, gloves and full helmet.
apropos the original topic, i always have worn a helmet and honestly don't like the feel without a full face helmet. they're trying to get rid of helmet laws in michigan and i don't get why.
on the other hand, like i said, i don't even own leather bottoms, so if they suddenly came up with "full leathers" laws, i'd probably be against it just like some are against the helmet laws.
Yup-it's all perspective.
I can't imagine just sneakers-I mean-you could hose and ankle and never walk right again-and my legs? Oh hell no-definitely wearing my dainese pants. ATGATT here, but whatever floats your boat, really.
Quote from: ducatizzzz on July 30, 2008, 08:11:03 AM
i think this makes perfect sense -- but do it differently.
you commit to wearing certain gear -- and that determines your policy coverage and cost.
if you are in a wreck and not wearing that gear, then you get denied any coverage at all.
so if you commit to wearing helmet, CE jacket, gloves, pants and boots, you get a policy for the cheapest, and on up for each item less.
I would go for that. i never ride without helmet, jacket, gloves and boots. sometimes i will wear pants, but i can't always swing that.
Yeah this is what I was aiming for. But as a lawyer I'm sure you could think of the headache of maintaining this. What gear is covered and when new gear comes out who checks it out and what's the delay between when it comes out and when it's approved. Which, if there's a institution that covers it already it's all good. Like CE and DOT protection. But there's other stuff that would have to be figured out. Like leather with no protection. and different types of leather.
I'm sure this could be figured out if the right people sat down.
Quote from: triangleforge on July 29, 2008, 11:57:40 AM
I like the idea, though the main purpose of moto or auto insurance is to cover your liability if you damage someone else's vehicle and (for the most part) hurt someone with your vehicle. If you purchase more coverage, it'll help replace or repair your vehicle if it's damaged. Neither is much affected by your gear choices.
The places that gear vs. none would show up are in medical insurance and life insurance. Oddly enough, I just purchased life insurance through the same company that covers our house, cars & motorcycles and went through the whole lifestyle quiz. The interviewer spent probably 20 minutes or more grilling me about what kind of rock climbing I do (these days it's almost entirely easy bouldering & top-roping stuff that would bore your average 14 year old) but not a single question about the motorcycles! [laugh]
This is exactly the problem I thought of. I was looking at insurance for my car the other day and the great majority of the fees are either non-medical or for the other person involved in the accident. Auto loaners would often require coverage for the bike. So how far could you go in limiting coverage based on failure to wear equipment.
Oh, I just had an idea. Put an equipment clause in the insurance and make sure the rider reads and signs it to get the lower rate. THEN when the rider doesn't wear the gear and wrecks, you could just sue for insurance fraud and don't have to cover... Lawyers, Discuss.
This probably wouldn't be the great deterrent I think it would. If protecting your lifestyle and life isn't enough I doubt lack of insurance coverage will help. But it'd make it cheaper for the rest of us. ;D
Quote from: someguy on July 30, 2008, 08:43:44 AM
you could hose and ankle and never walk right again
been there, done that.
broke my left ankle several years back and now i can predict rain and snow.
stupid error on my part-- pretty much a novice at the time, riding a HUGE bike, turning around in a parking lot and hit some sand. rear wheel slipped and i tried to catch it.
Full-face helmet and full gear, always, period.
This is how I roll:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7Nu_vVvqyo
[laugh]
That dude is badass! Makes me kinda want to go buy an R1 and practice in a school parking lot naked.
Hold my beer and watch this! Holla!
i would say his stuff would clink when he walks, but after that video i don't think his stuff cleared the flyscreen!
Quote from: arai_speed on July 30, 2008, 11:23:09 AM
This is how I roll:
[laugh]
yep, exactly why we need bleach in the gene pool.
Quote from: arai_speed on July 30, 2008, 11:23:09 AM
This is how I roll:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7Nu_vVvqyo
[laugh]
oh man, i love that video. no matter what kind of day i'm having, that one
always makes me laugh out loud. [laugh]
i say let the laws of no helmets pass, its a personal decision.
me personally i use nothing but a full face helmet, armored jacket, full guantlet gloves and riding boots.. used to use thinner gloves but basically i'm sort of a poser so i like getting the full race style gloves, both vented and non vented styles (my excuse i give is that thye have more protection if i ever need it, hopefully i never will).. used to wear jeans at the least, but now always wear bmw textile bottoms with armor in the knees and hips, basically now when i ride in jeans it just doesn't feel right to me anymore.
do what you want, and remember you probably will be a role model, good or bad, for someone that is possibly considering riding that you personally know. so that is something to consider.
Always wear mine. Everytime a huge bug or rock hits my faceshield I have to smile at myself for being so damn smart ;D + helmets these days are just badass looking, so many shapes and styles to choose from everyone should be able to find at least 1 they like well enough to wear!
Cool looking helmets are [bacon]
It´s great they tend to keep on the other side of the Atlantic.
You know you could try to make it look cool that swimming across to europe is hard core.. might even lose some of them along the way.
speaking of helmets... i ride with a full face but have been thinking about the 3/4 ones. those city monter helmet type?
anyone ride with those? how's the protection?
Quote from: someguy on July 27, 2008, 09:05:00 AM
You may wish to post a "graphic" warning shortly before those pictures....
The bacon in your avatar is far more graphic!
Quote from: Raux on July 31, 2008, 05:14:33 AM
speaking of helmets... i ride with a full face but have been thinking about the 3/4 ones. those city monter helmet type?
anyone ride with those? how's the protection?
i remember reading that something like 25% of all accidents involve hitting your chin on something.
and, i've watched people eat through a straw before.
yeah the idea of my jaw wired shut isn't so pleasing... so it's a scratch on the helmet with no chin bar.
I like my chin right where it is!
Not required by 'experienced' riders here in Pennsylvania (gumint must believe in natural selection).
Mine saved my life once - I think. Got beaned head-on by an errant tee shot while riding past a golf course...