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Moto Board => Tech => Topic started by: stopintime on August 09, 2021, 09:53:41 AM

Title: Lock and lock pin worn down
Post by: stopintime on August 09, 2021, 09:53:41 AM
I'm pretty sure I'm one of the few, if not the only to experience this - strange issues keep appearing on my 211,000km bike. Yesterday I couldn't lock the seat.

Closer inspection show badly worn locking plate/hook and pin.

New/used locking mechanism might be available.

The pin is another story....  I thought about welding a lump on it and then grind it back to normal, but the seat pan plastic is quite close. Too close?

Thoughts?

(https://i.postimg.cc/TPKTTTFG/Lock.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

(https://i.postimg.cc/vZqQR4P3/Lock-pin.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Title: Re: Lock and lock pin worn down
Post by: ducpainter on August 09, 2021, 10:04:08 AM
Have you tried unscrewing the pin? If the seat pan is plastic it had to be installed and not part of the seat pan.
Title: Re: Lock and lock pin worn down
Post by: stopintime on August 09, 2021, 10:11:12 AM
Quote from: ducpainter on August 09, 2021, 10:04:08 AM
Have you tried unscrewing the pin? If the seat pan is plastic it had to be installed and not part of the seat pan.

Can't see any screws.....  I thought the pin is embedded in the plastic....  Maybe accessable from the cushion side....
Title: Re: Lock and lock pin worn down
Post by: ducpainter on August 09, 2021, 10:50:52 AM
Quote from: stopintime on August 09, 2021, 10:11:12 AM
Can't see any screws.....  I thought the pin is embedded in the plastic....  Maybe accessable from the cushion side....
Could be...
Title: Re: Lock and lock pin worn down
Post by: ducpainter on August 09, 2021, 12:15:00 PM
Lock is available separately. Pin doesn't seem to be.

I'd weld it with a mig welder. Just don't run a bead. Small stitches will build it up enough, and shouldn't get it hot enough to loosen it from the plastic. If it starts getting warm, let it cool. The grind it, slowly, to the proper shape.
Title: Re: Lock and lock pin worn down
Post by: stopintime on August 09, 2021, 12:39:34 PM
"Grind it"....  will a Dremel do?
Title: Re: Lock and lock pin worn down
Post by: ducpainter on August 09, 2021, 01:55:29 PM
Quote from: stopintime on August 09, 2021, 12:39:34 PM
"Grind it"....  will a Dremel do?
Sure.

You could also try a steel epoxy putty...like this...

https://www.amazon.com/J-B-Weld-8267-SteelStik-Reinforced/dp/B00RN7CT2U
Title: Re: Lock and lock pin worn down
Post by: booger on August 10, 2021, 08:04:51 AM
try clamping a locking pliers to the bottom of the pin before you weld to serve as a heatsink, my concern is as soon as you hit it with weld it's going to get super hot and loosen in the plastic. And 131k or so miles is incredible
Title: Re: Lock and lock pin worn down
Post by: Heath on August 10, 2021, 01:47:39 PM
Truly only a "stopintime" problem lol
Title: Re: Lock and lock pin worn down
Post by: ducpainter on August 10, 2021, 03:10:31 PM
With a fair amount of experience with welding, the proper procedure won't get the pin very hot.