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Moto Board => General Monster Forum => Topic started by: koko64 on July 07, 2023, 04:48:13 PM

Title: Scrambler Icon
Post by: koko64 on July 07, 2023, 04:48:13 PM
Having ticked off the bucket list item of touring Chianti on a Ducati with the GLW, I have always had a soft spot for the Scrambler. The speed limits in many country areas near me have been dropped from 60 to 50 mph and my Evo1100 kept straining at the leash. A few mates got adventure bikes like the big GS tanks but I wasn't interested in the Range Rover of motorcycles (as one mate put it). I guess nostalgia about Tuscany led me towards another Scrambler Icon.

A customer bought my Evo and I found a Scrambler in a country area about 150 miles away at a good price. Low miles, one owner, service history, books, keys, extras, etc.

I'll ad pics and updates over time.

First impressions:
73 hp feels slow
The handlebars are ridiculous
That's the largest catalyc converter I've seen on a bike
About time the battery was under the seat (with ECU, ABS, etc)
The number plate holder will break off on our busted up roads
A steel petrol tank held on with a few bolts is a welcome change
The tank panels are silly and without them another litre or two of fuel could have been added.
The indicators are not bad for stockers and have flexible stalks
The cambelt covers are solid and are not obscured by frame rails once the pipes are removed.
Getting the rear wheel off is not that simple with rear stands blocking the axel and the gull wing swingarm  letting the bike slide down the stand
Lifting the bike near the swingarm pivot after removing the cat was the most secure way to remove the rear wheel
The handlebars are silly
First Ducati I've owned with a cable clutch
Low rpm mapping was snatchy but the bars position contributed to a lack of finesse
The handlebars are stupid and will be replaced with a Renthal mid rise option

Title: Re: Scrambler Icon
Post by: ducpainter on July 08, 2023, 04:12:44 AM
 How do you really feel about the bars?
Title: Re: Scrambler Icon
Post by: Howie on July 08, 2023, 04:36:17 AM
I have a feeling the bars are only the beginning of the mod list.

Congrats on the new ride!
Title: Re: Scrambler Icon
Post by: koko64 on July 08, 2023, 08:25:24 AM
 :D [thumbsup]
Title: Re: Scrambler Icon
Post by: ungeheuer on July 10, 2023, 01:29:50 PM
The endless Victorian creep of the 80km/h limit.

73hp will still be enough to keep VicPol in doughnuts  ;D

I happen the believe that Scambler is more Monster than current Monster is Monster.  Enjoy the new ride  [Dolph]

Oh and where's the bloody pics mate?
Title: Re: Scrambler Icon
Post by: koko64 on July 13, 2023, 09:28:11 AM
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Title: Re: Scrambler Icon
Post by: Howie on July 13, 2023, 11:53:33 AM
The bars gotta go!
Title: Re: Scrambler Icon
Post by: ungeheuer on July 13, 2023, 02:28:45 PM
How you gonna stand up, drifting sideways on the dirt if you put lower handlebars on it?  ;D


They have to go.
Title: Re: Scrambler Icon
Post by: koko64 on July 13, 2023, 06:09:38 PM
I think flat tracker bars.
Title: Re: Scrambler Icon
Post by: koko64 on August 02, 2023, 12:17:53 AM
Riders complain of a snatchy throttle and blame the mapping. I note that the throttle is a quick turn throttle with less than a quarter turn of travel. Thats pretty aggressive. I like quick throttles. After changing the bars to medium Renthal street/tracker bars the jerky throttle action was gone. Quick, yes! Aggressive, hell yeah! Responsive, but no longer snatchy. We get the EU mapping here and with high octane fuel it smooths out, but very perky. The bike handled better too with more weight pinning down those forks. The bars are high enough for me to stand on the pegs as I'm only 5'8".

Parts that comply with local regulations replace the groovy, but fragile swingarm mounted plate holder with all its weight and leverage waiting to break off and end up locking the rear wheel, chain, swingarm. A disaster waiting to happen under harsh Aussie road conditions.

I removed the DP Headlight fairing kit and will fit one of those tiny colour coded cowls to keep rain out of the instrument panel.

I picked up satin black tank panels for a great price. I haven't fitted the scrambler stickers. Maybe a tiny DMF sticker over each panel bolt.

The DP bash plate is useful.

Pics soon.
Title: Re: Scrambler Icon
Post by: koko64 on August 02, 2023, 12:32:52 AM
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Title: Re: Scrambler Icon
Post by: koko64 on August 02, 2023, 12:35:52 AM
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Title: Re: Scrambler Icon
Post by: koko64 on August 02, 2023, 12:37:24 AM
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Title: Re: Scrambler Icon
Post by: koko64 on August 02, 2023, 12:39:22 AM
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Title: Re: Scrambler Icon
Post by: koko64 on August 02, 2023, 12:46:09 AM
I'll exhaust wrap the pipe under the heat shield which will be blacked out.

To ride it feels like an old M900 with a light flywheel and jet kit.
Title: Re: Scrambler Icon
Post by: koko64 on August 02, 2023, 02:12:48 AM
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Title: Re: Scrambler Icon
Post by: koko64 on August 02, 2023, 02:16:48 AM
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Cable clutch. Feels good but people over adjust them without enough freeplay, frying plates and loosing hp sideways.
Title: Re: Scrambler Icon
Post by: koko64 on August 02, 2023, 03:00:03 AM
I think it looks like the result of a menage a trois between a 650 Bonnie, XR750 and a 900 Monster.
Title: Re: Scrambler Icon
Post by: koko64 on August 02, 2023, 05:50:08 AM
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The failures are out there.
Title: Re: Scrambler Icon
Post by: Howie on August 02, 2023, 05:36:35 PM
Bike's lookin' good!

How about this on the tank?  The logo during the time period of the original Scrambler.

https://www.pinterest.es/pin/721279696559394451/
Title: Re: Scrambler Icon
Post by: koko64 on August 03, 2023, 12:00:22 AM
Thanks Howie
Very cool [thumbsup]
Title: Re: Scrambler Icon
Post by: ungeheuer on August 16, 2023, 02:05:58 AM
Quote from: koko64 on August 02, 2023, 12:46:09 AM
I'll exhaust wrap the pipe under the heat shield which will be blacked out.

To ride it feels like an old M900 with a light flywheel and jet kit.
We can still be friends if you wrap the exhaust... but I gotta say I've never understood why anybody does that....

The black tank panels and new handlebars look the DK tho  8) [thumbsup]
Title: Re: Scrambler Icon
Post by: koko64 on August 16, 2023, 02:31:22 AM
I'd only wrap the pipe hidden under the heat guard, to insulate my right leg. It would not be seen but do it's job. Clearly the heat guard needs help. I wrapped the Evo pipe for 6 inches where it barely cleared the fuel pump cover.

I went lower again on the bars and can still stand up on faster dirt roads. The top triple, risers and steering head/neck of the frame are taller than on a Monster. Renthal Ultra Low in black, an inch lower than Monster bars ala flat track.
Title: Re: Scrambler Icon
Post by: koko64 on August 16, 2023, 02:47:56 AM
Standard gearing is 15/46. Yep 46. First Ducati I will gear UP. Going 15/43. A 16 T front is so tight a case saver  reportedly won't fit and stones jam the case.
Tranny feels like a close ratio box geared down on a short first gear.

There are reports of road debris, leaf litter, sticks or chain lube catching fire when in contact with the gigantic catalyc converter in warmer weather. Debris can build up on top of the cat as there's no hugger. Park in stubble/straw in summer and cause a bushfire.